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Title: Why I still h ave faith in bitcoin's value
Post by: dannickherpderp on June 22, 2011, 07:33:07 PM
So we just had a pretty bad week.

me in particular.  I finally get real money invested in the system and the largest exchange crashes.  Fun fun, but I digress.

We had the largest exchange hacked, the market flooded, security compromised, prices drop to pennies, intentions of traders questioned, and all manner of horrors in a short period of time.

And yet bitcoins are still trading around 14-15 bucks each.  If bitcoins can survive that with really no total loss of value, then they're hardier than many people have given them credit for.

Long live the bitcoin!


Title: Re: Why I still h ave faith in bitcoin's value
Post by: Desu on June 22, 2011, 07:34:55 PM
+1
Bitcoins are like a religon,
They always have there little bumps.


Title: Re: Why I still h ave faith in bitcoin's value
Post by: Jalum on June 22, 2011, 07:35:36 PM
And yet bitcoins are still trading around 14-15 bucks each. 

Volume?


Title: Re: Why I still h ave faith in bitcoin's value
Post by: dannickherpderp on June 22, 2011, 07:45:53 PM
And yet bitcoins are still trading around 14-15 bucks each. 

Volume?

And yet bitcoins are still trading around 14-15 bucks each.   ;D


Title: Re: Why I still h ave faith in bitcoin's value
Post by: Gabi on June 22, 2011, 07:48:04 PM
Volume? Where are we going we don't need volume!


Title: Re: Why I still h ave faith in bitcoin's value
Post by: noedaRDH on June 22, 2011, 07:48:18 PM
+1
Bitcoins are like a religon,
They always have there little bumps.
Satoshi will reveal himself as the second coming of Christ in 2012.


Title: Re: Why I still h ave faith in bitcoin's value
Post by: dannickherpderp on June 22, 2011, 09:43:51 PM
+1
Bitcoins are like a religon,
They always have there little bumps.
Satoshi will reveal himself as the second coming of Christ in 2012.

And satoshi pulls off his mask and it's THE REANIMATED CORPSE OF JOHN MAYNARD KEYNES OH GOD WE WERE SO FOOLISH NOOOOOOO


Title: Re: Why I still h ave faith in bitcoin's value
Post by: Litt on June 22, 2011, 09:48:17 PM
Bitcoins are in fact like religion because the faith of the people who believe in it give bitcoin it's value. In that aspect bitcoin is very much like a religion. Only difference is that this religion will actually save lives when the world's fiat currencies start collapsing whereas others will tell them to pray for a change.


Title: Re: Why I still h ave faith in bitcoin's value
Post by: dannickherpderp on June 22, 2011, 09:54:55 PM
Bitcoins are in fact like religion because the faith of the people who believe in it give bitcoin it's value. In that aspect bitcoin is very much like a religion. Only difference is that this religion will actually save lives when the world's fiat currencies start collapsing whereas others will tell them to pray for a change.

edited:  Derp.  Misread you.


Title: Re: Why I still h ave faith in bitcoin's value
Post by: CurbsideProphet on June 22, 2011, 10:07:55 PM
Only difference is that this religion will actually save lives when the world's fiat currencies start collapsing whereas others will tell them to pray for a change.

How will bitcoins save you?  So let me get this straight, the fiat currencies collapse essentially causing mass panic and destruction but 1) you have electricity, 2) a working internet and 3) someone willing to exchange tangible goods for survival for your bits of code.

Hookay.  Goodluck with that.   


Title: Re: Why I still h ave faith in bitcoin's value
Post by: Mark Oates on June 22, 2011, 10:25:47 PM
Forcing everyone to invest in their own sustainable energy, and thus be more secure?

I think that's a fantastic idea.


Title: Re: Why I still h ave faith in bitcoin's value
Post by: Trader Steve on June 22, 2011, 10:44:13 PM
Bitcoins are in fact like religion because the faith of the people who believe in it give bitcoin it's value. In that aspect bitcoin is very much like a religion. Only difference is that this religion will actually save lives when the world's fiat currencies start collapsing whereas others will tell them to pray for a change.

Yes, and here are additional reasons:

Bitcoin: A New Commodity Created To Serve Market Demand
http://economicsandliberty.wordpress.com/2011/06/22/bitcoin-a-new-commodity-created-to-serve-market-demand/ (http://economicsandliberty.wordpress.com/2011/06/22/bitcoin-a-new-commodity-created-to-serve-market-demand/)


Title: Re: Why I still h ave faith in bitcoin's value
Post by: TraderTimm on June 23, 2011, 02:27:03 AM
I find it funny too that the last trade is 15.40 on Tradehill, yet everyone thinks it is going to zero...

Oh, about volume, since it isn't the same volume as Mt.Gox, I guess it would be easier to crush to zero, but jeeze, just doesn't seem to be happening.

It's okay, we'll wait while all the CRASH CRASH CRASH fanatics readjust their theories... comon boys, if it is so easy - why am I not seeing it trade at 1? 0.50? 0.01?



Title: Re: Why I still h ave faith in bitcoin's value
Post by: imperi on June 23, 2011, 02:28:50 AM
I find it funny too that the last trade is 15.40 on Tradehill, yet everyone thinks it is going to zero...

Oh, about volume, since it isn't the same volume as Mt.Gox, I guess it would be easier to crush to zero, but jeeze, just doesn't seem to be happening.

It's okay, we'll wait while all the CRASH CRASH CRASH fanatics readjust their theories... comon boys, if it is so easy - why am I not seeing it trade at 1? 0.50? 0.01?



+1


Title: Re: Why I still h ave faith in bitcoin's value
Post by: TiagoTiago on June 23, 2011, 02:43:37 AM
It would be fun to read what they say about these events in the history books (or whatever they use by then) of some hundred years in the future


Title: Re: Why I still h ave faith in bitcoin's value
Post by: Hook^ on June 23, 2011, 02:46:58 AM
+1
Bitcoins are like a religon,
They always have there little bumps.
You're cute Desu, but what is that plastic thingy you are wearing?


Title: Re: Why I still h ave faith in bitcoin's value
Post by: CurbsideProphet on June 23, 2011, 02:49:38 AM
I find it funny too that the last trade is 15.40 on Tradehill, yet everyone thinks it is going to zero...

Oh, about volume, since it isn't the same volume as Mt.Gox, I guess it would be easier to crush to zero, but jeeze, just doesn't seem to be happening.

It's okay, we'll wait while all the CRASH CRASH CRASH fanatics readjust their theories... comon boys, if it is so easy - why am I not seeing it trade at 1? 0.50? 0.01?

I don't think BTC's will go to zero over this but you can't really make an assessment while the largest exchange is in a freeze.  You have thousands of users with cash and BTC's that they have no access to.  You can't trade what you don't have.


Title: Re: Why I still h ave faith in bitcoin's value
Post by: TiagoTiago on June 23, 2011, 02:50:20 AM
...
They always have there little bumps.
That's what she said ¬.¬


Title: Re: Why I still h ave faith in bitcoin's value
Post by: bitprotection on June 23, 2011, 02:51:26 AM
So we just had a pretty bad week.

me in particular.  I finally get real money invested in the system and the largest exchange crashes.  Fun fun, but I digress.

We had the largest exchange hacked, the market flooded, security compromised, prices drop to pennies, intentions of traders questioned, and all manner of horrors in a short period of time.

And yet bitcoins are still trading around 14-15 bucks each.  If bitcoins can survive that with really no total loss of value, then they're hardier than many people have given them credit for.

Long live the bitcoin!

+1 long live the bitcoin!


Title: Re: Why I still h ave faith in bitcoin's value
Post by: Bit_Happy on June 23, 2011, 02:53:50 AM
I find it funny too that the last trade is 15.40 on Tradehill, yet everyone thinks it is going to zero...

Oh, about volume, since it isn't the same volume as Mt.Gox, I guess it would be easier to crush to zero, but jeeze, just doesn't seem to be happening.

It's okay, we'll wait while all the CRASH CRASH CRASH fanatics readjust their theories... comon boys, if it is so easy - why am I not seeing it trade at 1? 0.50? 0.01?



CRASH fanatic == Not me.
Realistically, we are in a long-term bull market and short to medium-term bear market. There are over 7,000 new coins produced every day, plus the vast majority of ones for sale are trapped at MtGox. IMO, $5 or $6 to $10 is not only realistic, but expected, short-term.


Title: Re: Why I still h ave faith in bitcoin's value
Post by: modrobert on June 23, 2011, 03:32:17 AM
http://www.eurasia.nu/images/submitted/bitcoin_force.jpg


Title: Re: Why I still h ave faith in bitcoin's value
Post by: Desu on June 23, 2011, 05:00:16 AM
+1
Bitcoins are like a religon,
They always have there little bumps.
Satoshi will reveal himself as the second coming of Christ in 2012.
Praise our lord Satoshi. Amen. haha<3


Title: Re: Why I still h ave faith in bitcoin's value
Post by: Desu on June 23, 2011, 05:01:29 AM
...
They always have there little bumps.
That's what she said ¬.¬
Yes...Yes I did >>;


Title: Re: Why I still h ave faith in bitcoin's value
Post by: dannickherpderp on June 27, 2011, 07:29:33 PM
Just bumping this thread.

Mt. Gox open.  everyone expected massive runs and total collapse.  Value increased by about $1.50.

The bitcoin is tougher than some people thought, it seems.


Title: Re: Why I still h ave faith in bitcoin's value
Post by: dacoinminster on June 28, 2011, 12:11:31 AM
Bitcoin price increases are just getting started (see my sig)


Title: Re: Why I still h ave faith in bitcoin's value
Post by: Electrongolf on June 28, 2011, 12:53:52 AM
I agree with you. I still have faith in BTC too. But, I'm curious as to what is driving your optimism.

Are you betting that some savior will arrive who will create a popular use for BTC? Or are you confident that people will just arbitrarily accept it as a store of value?


Title: Re: Why I still h ave faith in bitcoin's value
Post by: Tronlet on June 28, 2011, 12:58:40 AM
I agree with you. I still have faith in BTC too. But, I'm curious as to what is driving your optimism.

Are you betting that some savior will arrive who will create a popular use for BTC? Or are you confident that people will just arbitrarily accept it as a store of value?
The most effective way to do this is to get stores to accept bitcoin, and generally increase the trading of bitcoin for things other than daytrading and Forex. The more that bitcoin is used for actually buying things instead of just investing, the healthier it will be.

Go to the Goods/Services forums in Marketplace and see if there's anything you could sell or buy, help the economy. :)


Title: Re: Why I still h ave faith in bitcoin's value
Post by: bitcoinBull on June 28, 2011, 01:01:06 AM
I agree with you. I still have faith in BTC too. But, I'm curious as to what is driving your optimism.

Are you betting that some savior will arrive who will create a popular use for BTC? Or are you confident that people will just arbitrarily accept it as a store of value?

The savior came and his name is Satoshi.  The popular use is as an unseizable store of arbitrary value.


Title: Re: Why I still h ave faith in bitcoin's value
Post by: TraderTimm on June 28, 2011, 01:22:45 AM
Bitcoin price increases are just getting started (see my sig)

I hear you. Read the original - interesting observations.

Three words: Bitcoin Bucket Shop

:)


Title: Re: Why I still h ave faith in bitcoin's value
Post by: Oldminer on June 28, 2011, 01:32:51 AM
And yet bitcoins are still trading around 14-15 bucks each.  If bitcoins can survive that with really no total loss of value, then they're hardier than many people have given them credit for.



Bitcoins are hardcore


Title: Re: Why I still h ave faith in bitcoin's value
Post by: Lynzoi on June 28, 2011, 02:29:14 AM
+1
Bitcoins are like a religon,
They always have there little bumps.
Satoshi will reveal himself as the second coming of Christ in 2012.

And satoshi pulls off his mask and it's THE REANIMATED CORPSE OF JOHN MAYNARD KEYNES OH GOD WE WERE SO FOOLISH NOOOOOOO
This will happen.


Title: Re: Why I still h ave faith in bitcoin's value
Post by: Desu on June 28, 2011, 06:53:52 PM
+1
Bitcoins are like a religon,
They always have there little bumps.
Satoshi will reveal himself as the second coming of Christ in 2012.

And satoshi pulls off his mask and it's THE REANIMATED CORPSE OF JOHN MAYNARD KEYNES OH GOD WE WERE SO FOOLISH NOOOOOOO
This will happen.
Amen fellow Bitcoiners!


Title: Re: Why I still h ave faith in bitcoin's value
Post by: J. on June 28, 2011, 07:06:56 PM
+1
We have not even seen the beginning yet  :o


Title: Re: Why I still h ave faith in bitcoin's value
Post by: Oldminer on June 28, 2011, 07:46:46 PM

And yet bitcoins are still trading around 14-15 bucks each.   ;D

Yea just goes to show how resilient Bitcoin is.

And where are the trolls and shills now? There were a lot of them prior to Gox coming back online but now their strangely silent  ;D


Title: Re: Why I still h ave faith in bitcoin's value
Post by: dannickherpderp on June 28, 2011, 10:35:04 PM

And yet bitcoins are still trading around 14-15 bucks each.   ;D

Yea just goes to show how resilient Bitcoin is.

And where are the trolls and shills now? There were a lot of them prior to Gox coming back online but now their strangely silent  ;D
They're too busy buying more bitcoins.