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Title: Most anonymous coin at the moment, Deep onion or not?
Post by: deeponion on August 26, 2017, 07:51:32 PM

Who can tell me wich coin has the most anonymite ?


Title: Re: Most anonymous coin at the moment, Deep onion or not?
Post by: evergrow on August 26, 2017, 08:13:28 PM
Monero

Appears to be the only anonymous coin



Title: Re: Most anonymous coin at the moment, Deep onion or not?
Post by: lakimens on August 26, 2017, 08:23:53 PM
I think XSPEC is more anonymous than MONERO.
Deep Onion is about protecting the TOR network, not about anonymity, yes, it does operate on the TOR network, but it's not currently the most anonymous.
I think in the future with Deepsend and other features it will be the most anonymous.


Title: Re: Most anonymous coin at the moment, Deep onion or not?
Post by: evergrow on August 26, 2017, 08:27:51 PM

I think XSPEC is more anonymous than MONERO.
in the future with Deepsend and other features it will be the most anonymous.
What is XSPEC?
What is Deepsend? Could you elaborate on that, and if possible explain the technological fundamentals in simple words?


Title: Re: Most anonymous coin at the moment, Deep onion or not?
Post by: Matic on August 26, 2017, 08:34:31 PM
technology wise Monero is at the top but other projects like those mentioned dont fall that much behind
the market will choose but it looks like anonymity coins are hot again


Title: Re: Most anonymous coin at the moment, Deep onion or not?
Post by: Gecko8 on August 26, 2017, 08:49:07 PM
I am not a techi, but deep send seems promising in increasing the anonymity. What I am always asking myself, what are appealing use cases for this anonymity? To be more secure of hackers is certainly already a strong one. But what can be actually solved? I was just thinking about any kind of elections, which could be supported with such technology. Any thoughts on this one?


Title: Re: Most anonymous coin at the moment, Deep onion or not?
Post by: lakimens on August 26, 2017, 08:51:46 PM

I think XSPEC is more anonymous than MONERO.
in the future with Deepsend and other features it will be the most anonymous.
What is XSPEC?
What is Deepsend? Could you elaborate on that, and if possible explain the technological fundamentals in simple words?
Spectrecoin(XSPEC) is a coin focusing on anonymity using TOR and OBFS4. OBFS was originally made to obfuscate TOR traffic, because some websites were intentionally blocking TOR traffic, it was later improved on by adding additional security to make what is OBFS4.
We still don't know what DeepSend is, but it is supposed to make the network more anonymous.
There's currently a giveaway going on, click my signature if you want in.


Title: Re: Most anonymous coin at the moment, Deep onion or not?
Post by: HasHe on August 27, 2017, 09:30:23 AM
Some coins came with the announcement that they would deliver full anonymity which is not found in bitcoin,since it is pseudo anonymous.Main competition was between Monero and Zcash while Dash also promised that it would also provide anonymity.Zcash entered into the market with a very high expectation which triggered its price.Monero is said to lead the race of anonymity since dark markets have adapted it.


Title: Re: Most anonymous coin at the moment, Deep onion or not?
Post by: V1saya on August 27, 2017, 09:43:19 AM
Some coins came with the announcement that they would deliver full anonymity which is not found in bitcoin,since it is pseudo anonymous.Main competition was between Monero and Zcash while Dash also promised that it would also provide anonymity.Zcash entered into the market with a very high expectation which triggered its price.Monero is said to lead the race of anonymity since dark markets have adapted it.

Yes, so many coins in crypto are mentioning anonymity as one of their features aside from decentralization. Cryptocurrencies in general are basically construed as anonymous in their transactions. Bitcoin included. The truth is that there is really no complete anonymity with all of them. For now, the two most anonymous really are Monero and Zcash. 


Title: Re: Most anonymous coin at the moment, Deep onion or not?
Post by: rayk on August 27, 2017, 10:01:23 AM
I have read some answers to the this question before in other threads, it seems monero and zcash are seen as the best anonymous coins but I think monero is better.


Title: Re: Most anonymous coin at the moment, Deep onion or not?
Post by: kitgrosso on August 27, 2017, 10:10:22 AM
there are so many to choose from XMR NAV DASH XSPEC Deep Onion ZEC ZCOIN


Title: Re: Most anonymous coin at the moment, Deep onion or not?
Post by: RntMC on November 10, 2017, 08:49:49 PM
I'd say Monero is the most anonymous coin. Other than that, Zcash. And then PIVX and NAV maybe?


Title: Re: Most anonymous coin at the moment, Deep onion or not?
Post by: Morbid on November 10, 2017, 08:54:20 PM
anoncoin's blockchain is running under i2p. also new implementations are being developed to make additional obfuscation features.


Title: Re: Most anonymous coin at the moment, Deep onion or not?
Post by: shinhurr on December 28, 2017, 11:42:06 AM
anoncoin's blockchain is running under i2p. also new implementations are being developed to make additional obfuscation features.

exactly, a coin which has been there from the start and has proven to have honest devs until now.


Title: Re: Most anonymous coin at the moment, Deep onion or not?
Post by: cryptohunter on December 28, 2017, 11:46:18 AM
PIVX is the superior anon coin right now


Title: Re: Most anonymous coin at the moment, Deep onion or not?
Post by: tokeweed on December 28, 2017, 11:48:33 AM
Monero

Appears to be the only anonymous coin



Yup.  I don't get why some people keep shilling all the other inferior 'anon' coins.  I mean by now we should know that the people shilling random coins are either sockpuppets or total noobs.



Title: Re: Most anonymous coin at the moment, Deep onion or not?
Post by: KryptoKai on December 28, 2017, 12:05:35 PM
I think XSPEC is more anonymous than MONERO.
Deep Onion is about protecting the TOR network, not about anonymity, yes, it does operate on the TOR network, but it's not currently the most anonymous.
I think in the future with Deepsend and other features it will be the most anonymous.

This is spot on. Monero is a bigger name with better marketing but there are flaws in their anonymity. XSPEC has better technology for privacy but weaker marketing. Depends on what you want for a coin, but xspec is likely to boom in 2018


Title: Re: Most anonymous coin at the moment, Deep onion or not?
Post by: Febo on December 28, 2017, 12:22:27 PM
I think XSPEC is more anonymous than MONERO.
Deep Onion is about protecting the TOR network, not about anonymity, yes, it does operate on the TOR network, but it's not currently the most anonymous.
I think in the future with Deepsend and other features it will be the most anonymous.

This is spot on. Monero is a bigger name with better marketing but there are flaws in their anonymity. XSPEC has better technology for privacy but weaker marketing. Depends on what you want for a coin, but xspec is likely to boom in 2018

Monero have zero marketing. And zero flaws in anonymity. I dont understand where you get this infos from.  Monero is only coin that FBI could not trace when Alphabay owner was caught.  If he would use only Monero would never get caught at all.


Actually Monero Marketing is technology. Unflawable anonymity.


Title: Re: Most anonymous coin at the moment, Deep onion or not?
Post by: RNGfight on December 28, 2017, 12:27:27 PM
DASH is a good choice, and there's a new ICO project tokenpay, which is known to be very anonymous, and I feel good about it, and I'm involved in their ICO.


Title: Re: Most anonymous coin at the moment, Deep onion or not?
Post by: tornikejr on December 28, 2017, 12:37:33 PM
Best anonymous coin at the moment is definitely MONERO.
Also i am watching SUMOKOIN i think it has potential to be good coin.


Title: Re: Most anonymous coin at the moment, Deep onion or not?
Post by: generalizethis on December 28, 2017, 12:40:57 PM
DASH is a good choice, and there's a new ICO project tokenpay, which is known to be very anonymous, and I feel good about it, and I'm involved in their ICO.

Dash is a horrible choice. You are forced to trust that node stakers and hosting companies are not colluding to unmask your tx. Not to mention that there are few private send tx, which means a reduced anonymity set and timing attacks are all the easier.


Title: Re: Most anonymous coin at the moment, Deep onion or not?
Post by: rayjellanajao on December 28, 2017, 12:45:52 PM
Monero seems good, but i never own some. All i have was DeepOnion, yes i get it for FREE. For me it's the best, not because i own some of it but because of my experience in their community.  Everyone is doing their best for DeepOnion specially the devs. DeepOnion is still unknown for now, but sooner or later it'll rise.


Title: Re: Most anonymous coin at the moment, Deep onion or not?
Post by: junjunsalsalani on December 28, 2017, 12:47:31 PM
XMR is commonly used in the community it is the dominant anonymity coin,but a new coin will rise its name is XSPEC i will watch this coin to grow more.


Title: Re: Most anonymous coin at the moment, Deep onion or not?
Post by: generalizethis on December 28, 2017, 12:55:01 PM
XMR is commonly used in the community it is the dominant anonymity coin,but a new coin will rise its name is XSPEC i will watch this coin to grow more.


Until they write a paper on how they plan on making anonymous staking or make the code available on github, it's vaporware.


Title: Re: Most anonymous coin at the moment, Deep onion or not?
Post by: Invester on December 28, 2017, 12:58:17 PM

Who can tell me wich coin has the most anonymite ?

Deeponion has yet to prove its anonymous worth. It is still very young and has not really been tested fully. It is not yet even fully developed. If you really want anonymous coins, try reading about Monero (XMR) or ZCash (ZEC) or Dash. You may also try looking into Verge (XVG) or Komodo (KMD). There are much more tested and popular altcoins that made names because of their highly anonymous features. Deeponion is not yet one of them.


Title: Re: Most anonymous coin at the moment, Deep onion or not?
Post by: Remainder on December 28, 2017, 01:44:57 PM
deeponion still be the no. 1 anonymous for the moment because they are using tor network and tor is an anonymous network.


Title: Re: Most anonymous coin at the moment, Deep onion or not?
Post by: shinhurr on January 07, 2018, 09:01:20 PM
It all depends on how you approach it. Different coins have different opinions on how anonymity should be implemented.
There is in my opinion not something as 'this is the most anonymous' coin. Clearly the fact that we are talking about 'more' or 'less' anonymous is that all of them have positive points and flaws. Else we would answer this question with: "they are all 100% anonymous, just pick the flavour which you like most". For a comparison, someone has recently put some work in that:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2669844.msg27619280#msg27619280

They are missing some of course.. e.g. anoncoin which is there from the start but is often overlooked since they care mainly about the tech and algorithm and not about marketing and pumping the coin. In a conversation with them when I ask how they are different they actually were quite open to how other coins approach the problem instead of answering: "we are the best", which is how it should be... they should not compete, they all want to achieve a common goal and are learning (and sometimes stealing) from each other.