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Title: Why are so many selling their mining rigs ?
Post by: Tamis on May 22, 2013, 12:37:38 PM
Hi there wise people,

I'm one of the noobs well rather a returning miner.

I see a whole lot of people selling their mining rigs and was wondering why !

I see two possible reasons, either the are buying asic like the 50gh/s or they are buying btc because mining is not worth it anymore.

Anyone can shed a light on this please ?

Cheers


Title: Re: Why are so many selling their mining rigs ?
Post by: operador on May 22, 2013, 12:44:32 PM
Not sure for everybody but in my case my GPU based rig is giving me pennys so the next time is buying mining pool shares as I sure won't turn my home into a asic miner data center...


Title: Re: Why are so many selling their mining rigs ?
Post by: patapato on May 22, 2013, 01:07:54 PM
I see a whole lot of people selling their mining rigs and was wondering why !

Where do you see them selling rigs?. Perhaps I am interested on more mining power, I have now one rig with 4 x 7950. Anyone selling rigs in Europe?

I am only interested in HD 7xxx series, or HD 69xx GPU's.


Title: Re: Why are so many selling their mining rigs ?
Post by: Visin on May 22, 2013, 01:15:49 PM
Well the BTC mining eventually will get tremendously easy for the ones with enough money and already current hash power due to the ASIC board coming out.

So many might be jumping before they are released, who knows?


Title: Re: Why are so many selling their mining rigs ?
Post by: Tamis on May 22, 2013, 02:20:17 PM
The thing is that asic boards are going to make difficulty very high in a short time.
I'm sure all non asic based mining will very soon not be worth it.

So i'm wondering, should i buy asic hardware or shares of asic rigs ?


Title: Re: Why are so many selling their mining rigs ?
Post by: Kookaburra on May 22, 2013, 02:23:01 PM
The thing is that asic boards are going to make difficulty very high in a short time.
I'm sure all non asic based mining will very soon not be worth it.

So i'm wondering, should i buy asic hardware or shares of asic rigs ?


I would get the hardware, that way you have no third party risk except when ordering the hardware.


Title: Re: Why are so many selling their mining rigs ?
Post by: kodo on May 22, 2013, 03:19:34 PM
Because asics comin out


Title: Re: Why are so many selling their mining rigs ?
Post by: btczz on May 22, 2013, 03:49:54 PM
Just a word: ASIC


Title: Re: Why are so many selling their mining rigs ?
Post by: kodo on May 22, 2013, 03:52:52 PM
Thats if ASICS arent a complete scam


Title: Re: Why are so many selling their mining rigs ?
Post by: jdwi31 on May 22, 2013, 04:03:04 PM
who has already a ASIC miner?? is it possible to mine litecoin with that?


Title: Re: Why are so many selling their mining rigs ?
Post by: rabidwalrus on May 22, 2013, 04:29:07 PM
who has already a ASIC miner?? is it possible to mine litecoin with that?

nope. At least not with current ASICs, they mine SHA256 coins like bitcoin.

Litecoin is a Scrypt based coin.


Title: Re: Why are so many selling their mining rigs ?
Post by: jdwi31 on May 22, 2013, 05:28:17 PM
ok thanks
i am ready to inform me (=
so in my understanding, only the few big player who have ASICs are the big miners..
those who have gpu's are going "under" or have to change.
no big goal for the bitcoin-project....


Title: Re: Why are so many selling their mining rigs ?
Post by: drofdelm on May 22, 2013, 05:39:35 PM
There are people working together to grab some ASICs in group buys as I posted just a bit ago. Use less power and go faster.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=195647.0


Title: Re: Why are so many selling their mining rigs ?
Post by: ahmedbodius on May 22, 2013, 05:40:34 PM
ASIC


Title: Re: Why are so many selling their mining rigs ?
Post by: deblocare on May 22, 2013, 06:03:51 PM
Well ..that`s why I think that many will go and support the scrypt based currencies :D (just my 2cents).


Title: Re: Why are so many selling their mining rigs ?
Post by: patapato on May 22, 2013, 06:41:16 PM
ASIC is the coming monster that every GPU miner is afraid of ... since 10 months ago.

The reality is that mining profitability of Bitcoin with GPU is quite the same as mining profitability of Litecoin, 10 months later than the announcement of ASIC for mining Bitcoin. So, where is the big afraid?. Where are the ASICs?, or are there so few that its total power can not be as high as total power of GPU mining?

GPUs are all over the world, most young boys has one to play games. ASICs are 3 small companies, it looks like they are making ASICs by hand, one by one.

And, what if the Bitcoin algorithm is changed?, it is open source, and necessity could make the comunity decide to incorporate Scrypt, or Proof-of-stake, to the algorithms of Bitcoin. In such a case, the actual ASICs will be of no value, just a museum piece on the history of cryptocoins.

(Perhaps I am wrong, it is just opinion, it is not deep knowledge).


Title: Re: Why are so many selling their mining rigs ?
Post by: drwho88888 on May 22, 2013, 07:07:02 PM
BFL are keeping all their machines for themselves, having been funded by the innocents who paid them upfront.

They will push up the difficulty skyhigh having reaped all the easy BTC themselves and then they will release their worthless machines.

Nice scam if you can get away with it......which they apparently are :)


Title: Re: Why are so many selling their mining rigs ?
Post by: Rotary Sausage on May 23, 2013, 01:36:20 AM
BFL are keeping all their machines for themselves, having been funded by the innocents who paid them upfront.

They will push up the difficulty skyhigh having reaped all the easy BTC themselves and then they will release their worthless machines.

Nice scam if you can get away with it......which they apparently are :)
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lol. Awesome! But who is really to blame? People who are greedy and haven't done their due diligence? Or a greedy company?


Title: Re: Why are so many selling their mining rigs ?
Post by: wheatrich on May 23, 2013, 01:43:11 AM
It's not profitable for everyone.  Some places have much higher electricity costs than others.  (some are possiblly selling to get the capital to buy the next thing however)

The asic argument's been going on so long it's pretty pathetic.  Unless you've got a razor thin profit margin now, you'll be fine for awhile so no need to sell.

Also, if BFL's been mining already, then the OMG asic's are coming out argument is even more lol.  DUCY?


Title: Re: Why are so many selling their mining rigs ?
Post by: sdminer on May 23, 2013, 02:45:42 AM
not profitable anymore...

I wonder how transactions will be kept up if it is not profitable for mminers anymore?  wouldn't that make future transactions hard, since you need a miner to confirm the transactions?


Title: Re: Why are so many selling their mining rigs ?
Post by: koukanexchange on May 23, 2013, 03:06:15 AM
gpu mining is not as profitable as it used to be. Best to just buy them and sell them when market has an upturn then buy back at low


Title: Re: Why are so many selling their mining rigs ?
Post by: FiiNALiZE on May 23, 2013, 03:25:32 AM
Litecoin is still plenty profitable to mine so I don't know why they are selling their rigs.

A 7970 can get you around 1.3LTC a day which is around $4.



Title: Re: Why are so many selling their mining rigs ?
Post by: moody123 on May 23, 2013, 04:22:14 AM
In my opinion selling your rig to get an asic now is a horrible idea. It's probably too late to buy and asic and maintain profitability.


Title: Re: Why are so many selling their mining rigs ?
Post by: bearpig on May 23, 2013, 06:41:23 PM
Surely due to the increased demand for mining rigs, that you can sell them for profit and then build another that's tweaked more for other cryto-currencies (or power/heat/noise management)?