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Title: Who else became paranoid after discovering Bitcoins and had nervous breakdown?
Post by: calista on June 22, 2011, 11:57:29 PM
i have become so scared of losing my wallet.dat i have spent over 200 hours testing and using many different security products, from password manager to pretty good privacy.

i can't sleep at night and i noticed my hair is falling out at a fast rate.

anyone else in the same boat?


Title: Re: Who else became paranoid after discovering Bitcoins and had nervous breakdown?
Post by: cuqa on June 22, 2011, 11:58:53 PM
i have become so scared of losing my wallet.dat i have spent over 200 hours testing and using many different security products, from password manager to pretty good privacy.

i can't sleep at night and i noticed my hair is falling out at a fast rate.

anyone else in the same boat?

lol, how much u got pls?


Title: Re: Who else became paranoid after discovering Bitcoins and had nervous breakdown?
Post by: myrkul on June 22, 2011, 11:59:24 PM
http://www.truecrypt.org +
http://www.dropbox.com

Safe and secure BTC wallet.dat


Title: Re: Who else became paranoid after discovering Bitcoins and had nervous breakdown?
Post by: slippyrocks on June 24, 2011, 07:14:53 AM
I feel pretty safe using windows 7, EFS, and backing up to a thumb drive.

Here is a Ultra High Security Password Generator

https://www.grc.com/passwords.htm

Protecting ones email account is the most important.


Title: Re: Who else became paranoid after discovering Bitcoins and had nervous breakdown?
Post by: caveden on June 24, 2011, 07:17:41 AM
http://www.truecrypt.org +
http://www.dropbox.com

Safe and secure BTC wallet.dat

As long as there is not a keylogger in the machine you use to mount your truecrypt partition... that's the main problem.


Title: Re: Who else became paranoid after discovering Bitcoins and had nervous breakdown?
Post by: myrkul on June 24, 2011, 07:28:27 AM
http://www.truecrypt.org +
http://www.dropbox.com

Safe and secure BTC wallet.dat

As long as there is not a keylogger in the machine you use to mount your truecrypt partition... that's the main problem.

Hmm. Good point, are you worried about hardware, or software keyloggers?


Title: Re: Who else became paranoid after discovering Bitcoins and had nervous breakdown?
Post by: Exonumia on June 24, 2011, 07:30:15 AM
You could spread them out across multiple wallets... my reasoning being you could keep some "extra secure" by hardly ever restoring them.

Just a thought.



Title: Re: Who else became paranoid after discovering Bitcoins and had nervous breakdown?
Post by: Oldminer on June 24, 2011, 07:44:33 AM
Lol...just take the wallet.dat file off your pc and and get some sleep...Christ it ain't that fucking hard...


Title: Re: Who else became paranoid after discovering Bitcoins and had nervous breakdown?
Post by: caveden on June 24, 2011, 08:17:31 AM
Hmm. Good point, are you worried about hardware, or software keyloggers?

Software, mostly.

I plan to buy a new computer and then allocate my old laptop only for bitcoin usage, as long as it survives. No web browsing on it. It will be quite annoying getting the addresses from the "surfer machine" to the "bitcoin machine" each time I want to do a payment, so maybe I'll leave a small wallet on the dangerous machine as well. Something that wouldn't make me pull my hairs out if it's stolen. Or maybe I'll just get used with copying and pasting the addresses around.



Title: Re: Who else became paranoid after discovering Bitcoins and had nervous breakdown?
Post by: mikeintimesaves9 on June 24, 2011, 08:34:35 AM
I put half on Mt Gox. under lock and key with my favorite password: "passw0rd" <-rock solid.  Also, a nice gentleman that I met on 4chan who said he was a security expert offered to hold my wallet.dat file for me. I sleep soundly at night now knowing when I need it he will be just a quick email away with my file.


Title: Re: Who else became paranoid after discovering Bitcoins and had nervous breakdown?
Post by: Seldan90 on June 24, 2011, 08:35:33 AM
if you're so scared about losing it,
take a computer and a bootable USB linux drive
put a blank hard disk into the computer or save the files into the bootable USB stick, boot from the USB stick,
plug in ethernet cable, download bitcoin client from official site, unplug ethernet cable
install bitcoin cable write down a sending address to that wallet. shut down that computer
remove the harddisk/usb stick with your wallet on it

Saveguard that hard disk/ usb stick somewhere where no one can touch it, don't ever put the hard drive/ usb stick into a computer that has internet connection unless you plan to send the bitcoins from your wallet to another, use it as you would use a savings account, don't browse the internet, if you connect to the internet, send the bitcoins to another wallet and disconnect again

You should have at least 2 wallets, 1 for savings, one for regular use, transfer excess bitcoins to your savings account so the worst that can happen is that you lose your regular use wallet


Title: Re: Who else became paranoid after discovering Bitcoins and had nervous breakdown?
Post by: srainsdon on June 24, 2011, 08:39:41 AM
http://www.truecrypt.org +
http://www.dropbox.com

Safe and secure BTC wallet.dat

As long as there is not a keylogger in the machine you use to mount your truecrypt partition... that's the main problem.

Hmm. Good point, are you worried about hardware, or software keyloggers?

but then could you not just use keyfiles at that point even with the uberpassword nothing can happon


Title: Re: Who else became paranoid after discovering Bitcoins and had nervous breakdown?
Post by: myrkul on June 24, 2011, 09:08:43 AM
Hmm. Good point, are you worried about hardware, or software keyloggers?

Software, mostly.

I plan to buy a new computer and then allocate my old laptop only for bitcoin usage, as long as it survives. No web browsing on it. It will be quite annoying getting the addresses from the "surfer machine" to the "bitcoin machine" each time I want to do a payment, so maybe I'll leave a small wallet on the dangerous machine as well. Something that wouldn't make me pull my hairs out if it's stolen. Or maybe I'll just get used with copying and pasting the addresses around.

Clean install of a nice secure Linux distro should keep you safe, then. Don't do anything but Bitcoin on it.


Title: Re: Who else became paranoid after discovering Bitcoins and had nervous breakdown?
Post by: dizznizzle on June 24, 2011, 10:53:03 AM
Best way is to keep wallet.dat on a usb stick. At least thats what i do.


Title: Re: Who else became paranoid after discovering Bitcoins and had nervous breakdown?
Post by: Keninishna on June 24, 2011, 10:58:43 AM
lol, what I did was use aescrypt for windows http://www.aescrypt.com/ (http://www.aescrypt.com/) and encrypted my wallet.dat with a really long password then uploaded the encrypted file to my gmail account. I'd say its pretty safe for free!


Title: Re: Who else became paranoid after discovering Bitcoins and had nervous breakdown?
Post by: goodlord666 on June 24, 2011, 01:21:22 PM
i have become so scared of losing my wallet.dat i have spent over 200 hours testing and using many different security products, from password manager to pretty good privacy.

i can't sleep at night and i noticed my hair is falling out at a fast rate.

anyone else in the same boat?

Dude, get some Rogaine quick!


Title: Re: Who else became paranoid after discovering Bitcoins and had nervous breakdown?
Post by: compubinks on June 24, 2011, 01:43:08 PM
I am not really concerned at this point. The issues are due to the trading houses and users using low security and not due to the bitcoin creation/processing itself. This will only result in those trading houses getting better and bringing to the forefront the fact that users need to secure their wallets or move their bitcoins into a holding area like MyBitcoin or a bitcoin bank if one ever shows up.

Compubinks


Title: Re: Who else became paranoid after discovering Bitcoins and had nervous breakdown?
Post by: rjs on June 24, 2011, 03:41:00 PM
I plan to keep my dollars and BTC's on the market site for now until I feel more secure with how to handle the BTC"s on my own.  In light of the recent events with the one major exchange I am waiting for OnlyOneTV to broadcasts that segment on securing ones wallet they have been talking about doing.