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I am curious about the casinos owner. they have so much to offer. I think they are more fair than any political party.

the number of casinos are increasing from time to time and specially after people start playing gambling online, because it make more easy for the people to play gambling online, therefore the competition is increasing from time to time and to attract the investor they try to give erent offers so as to attract more and more people  to their casinos therefore casino owners are fair and common.

Are you talking to a land base casino? if yes I would say no, they are not criminals since the casino needs permission from a goverment to run in a city and they not conmen too because players will not enter and gamble in their casino if it is true.

Maybe yes, maybe no.
Maybe yes better than the political parties from various kinds of bonuses and promotions they give, because the competition with their opponents from various bonuses that are varied.
Maybe no in politics offers welfare to voters, offers education, health and so on, but still for me not get anything.
In my heart and my sense of gambling is better, than politics  ;)

I think he is referring to the movie kind of casino's because most on the movies are owned by the main antagonist and mostly criminals well I would say reality is very different from those in the movies and there are really facts about the movies casino owners well but not all there are some investors that have live casino's and site casino.

They are just businessman like a shopkeeper or a movie producer.
They deliver what people want and take their cut from it.

Nope. They aren't because we all know that casinos are legal in different countries because they believe that casinos are fare and it gives them, the owners income escpecially a high income because of the earnings of it. I think they will become criminals if they will commit any negative actions that will make their players angry like scams, being unfair and cheating in the casino.

Why would they look? They are just persons who runs a business in order for them to have incomes for their living. Many people also thinks that some of the owners are criminals in a way that some of it didn't become fair in their casinos and using some cheats or hacks in order to make income. That's how the owner looks like to other people.

Nah, I don't think that they could be criminals or conmen. They have many things to offer because there's money being made and by continuing those giveaway/contests it will only help them rake more players. Once they stop or don't do anything about their casino there's a chance that they could lose profit over time and close down.

Which movie? if you know what he's referring to.

The reason for this is that Casino have lots of investors behind their project.  I do not think Casino owner are criminals or conmen, I look at them as businessmen who are able to take advantage of other people's interest to have profit.  If you look around this forum, you can find Casino owner looking for investors to help fund their bankroll.  And most of them are successful in finding these people.  I believe owners are witty enough to think of a strategy where they can turn water into solid (ideas to cash) :)

The ones I know are not criminals and I will not hold brief for everyone and so if some people somewhere are cheating then call them criminals but not everyone.

Not really. The odds of casino games are well-known. The long-term profit/loss of playing casino games is also well researched and widely available. Gambling is mostly for entertainment and for fun.

It is a pure business but they need to follow each and every country rules and regulations otherwise they may be in a trouble because many countries don't allow online gambling and even for real casinos they will have certain rules to follow. In those cases any casino don't follow those rules then they are doing cheating business.

nope. I don't think they're criminals. mostly who runs online casino was a group of rich people. It's easy to start a online casino all you need to do is enough capital to start with and ofcourse you'll gonna buy some script for the casino game that you're playing. it's the best to be the owner of the online casino because the owner will never lose. only those player will lose.

That's nonsense thought, you can click on my signature link and speak with the owner or message Alex out here. Yes there are fraud casino on owners but not all are fraud, Alex is one of the most trusted and best casino owner ever. Look at the Ico, people are investing cause they trust the owner, may be you been cheated or conned but you should have taken extra care. I only prefer to pay at respected casinos and these days only at Bitdice, maybe you should check it out, it's to good.

I also agree with you, he has nonsense thinking, He need to talk with any gambling site's owner than he know their good behavior and people trust on them and i have an example of my gambling owner of Fortune Jack, the owner of our gambling site is always ready to help for their members, so same here in all other gambling sites, like your casino's owner. But i think he is surprise to see that every gambling sites offer a big jackpot, and may be he never seen before a big money. 

I don't think they are criminal or conmen cause they still need permit from the government to operate on one and if they have a record then they cannot run and operate it. Maybe others are saying they are conmen cause some gamblers lose and then since they are in denial that its their fault, they would find someone to blame and its the owners that they will blame saying they are fraud and would like to see an evidence if they are legal. 

They have so much to offer because they realized run casino is need a lot capital for promotion, advertising and offer big jackpot to attract people play in their site. A lot new casino pop-up nowadays so a lot capital and a lot innovative is necessary to compete.

I don't think the owner of casino is criminal, maybe there are a casino which indicated as scam, but not all, you should research more and dig the information of that casino.

I will say No , Not all owners do same thing , Its the type of business and their marketing tricks to Earn more and more money by ging some offers as you siad

No, if you look at the casinos here in the Philippines. The owners of the casinos such as Resort world, Solaire, City of Dreams and etc. are Business tycoons. They are relatively rich before they were born. Though, I don't know the story about other casinos outside our country. I must say that the possibilities that some of the casinos in other part of the world are handled or owned by a Syndicates or criminals with the support of a High profile politician.

Not everybody but a few.To name a few,bitcasino.io/sportsbet.io are a group of criminal organisation which bribe people who speak against them/doxx them or even death threats.They are the worst criminals in the scene right now after Betcoin.ag.
Websites like crypto-games.net,BItDice are managed by professionals who don't cheat people and are a bunch of educated folks doing things.

It is true,no 9-5 worker can open a casino.Only drug dealers,politicians,criminals can run casinos,atleast in the country that I live.

Possible and not, who knows? But there's sure thing that running or building up a casino is no joke, you need to have better bankroll and capital to establish it properly. And about the offers that you had said, it's their strategy regardless it was backed up by criminals or professionals it's all about the marketing that they understand to make their business running well.

the criminals were only stolen money from the people directly but very different with the owners of gambling sites and for those who blaming casinos sites as the main cause of being addicted i think they're fully wrong because gambling sites only a tool but it all back again from the person themself however maybe there are several scam casinos currently but don't mean all of casinos are scam and stolen money so in my point of view the owner of the casinos is not a criminal even they're only businessman

Definitely not in my opinion. They're just operating a business and you as a gambler know what you're getting yourself into when you play at a casino.
They're just offering a service for which people are willing to pay. As long as it is done fair and legally, I see no problem.

No because before they can operate they have to process a lot of papers just like any kind of business for them to make it legal and they are also paying tax to the government.

They are providing a service, same as other service provider. We have free will to visit or not. they are the business tycoons.

No theyre not since they are following policies or piling up documents/requirements in able to run one.Its people choice if they would tend to play on the site and theres nothing wrong on them since they are just offering their service and i would say that the ones who are thinking off on this way are those people who arent lucky on playing gambling :)

that's right if they got every requirements to facilitate the business then they are just doing it correctly unless they dont have legitimacy
and they are not fair so they can be consider as criminals its always the players/gamblers choice whether they want it or not to play
gamble.

No, it's not like that! There are mobsters and gangsters who have ties with gambling industry. FBI even hunts them down. I am not saying that all the casinos are run by criminals but you can Google and find out about such casinos in Las Vegas. Also, my friend it is too naive to think that government has no links with underworld or criminals and they are two sides of the same coin...

If the owner of a casino is a criminal or conmen, for sure he won't be able to run his business in a longer time. Hence if we saw casinos that already run for relatively a long period of time, that means such casinos aren't managed by criminals or conmen. It's so simple!

why the criminals can't run casinos business in a long time? In my opinion casinos are the best way to convert the black money into white.

Well lets be honest. Bitcoin make money transfer easy, so it could be, that some casinos can be used for money laundry. Of course that can happen with any business, and outside the crypto world, although I do think that BTC will make this process easy or harder to track at least. I don't really believe that is true for most casinos anyway. Bitcoins were easy to mine in the beginning, so I'm sure many people that believed in them since it's early days manage to grab a lot of BTC, and can now easily run and open a casino. With bitcoin being so popular in the gambling world, we can't really blame them from doing that.

We can't really tell who they are because we are not their to know the owner but just to play the game, as long as they pass the requirements and given the signal to operate their business then they are compliant with the law. There personal are not our business to know, whatever we think is just based on our opinion and we cannot prove that without evidence, unless they are caught doing illegal activities.

I think if they have to process documents through a proper legal chain of command then they might not be wrong in any sense. They are just making up a business in which you will be the source of their income. They pay taxes, they are legal. Why they are wrong then? For government and for themselves, this all is legal.

No, I think you are taking this conclusion from the movie, it is not that easy to get license from the government and if you got a criminal record, it will be difficult to get that license. The one that build casino is the one that seek opportunity for business

I don't think so. Actually, we cannot judge them though they are having that kind of business because there are really some people who run that kind of business because they know that they can earn a lot of money through that. But it doesn't mean that all of them are criminals or conman just because they have that kind of business.

 
Not every casino owner is a criminal. We can tell a person to criminalize if he does something illegal or does not fit into what he or she should do. My only opinion is  they offer a lot of things or gimmicks  for the good of their business and they need more players,gamblers and investors to make their business more profitable.

Hardly criminals, they coordinate their activities with the government and share with him. Therefore, this is a business, one of the directions, and there are a lot of problems and risks in this business. So on the contrary, it is necessary to salute the person who undertook this.

Possibly because I've always watched documentaries that tackles criminal organization and they are always connected with gambling casinos. It's not surprising for me if that is true because gambling will give them a lot of profit that they can use for other illegal activities.

There are possibilities that some of the owners are partnering with syndicates not only to gain more security but also to gain more profit. Let's not make a generalization, Here in the Philippines 3 of the top Casinos such as Resorts World, Solaire, and City of Dreams are owned by high profile businessmen. I doubt that they are a syndicate though the possibilities are also there. I must say that I would rather believe if they do have Political Alliances to protect not only the name of the casinos but also the name of owners itself.

Casinos indeed give out a lot of money though they are also taking a lot of money from us gamblers. Fairness in casinos actually doesn't exist. Casinos were made to take money from the gamblers and that's a fact.

No, I don't think so. People that own casinos are just filling the demand for gambling! If they didn't supply it, someone else will for sure. It may feel outright a crime that they are earning so much from the gamblers but it is a fact gamblers must take in because they want to gamble and there is no way they could have gambled without these casino owners.

That is what I was going to say. Google is full of articles related to this but if someone will say that not all the information that we find on net is correct, I won't deny it but suggest searching deep or dark web. That will actually surprise you more than Google can.

In my opinion, they are not. It is with the players if they agree to the terms and conditions of the casino. That ToC includes agreeing to the house edge of the casino.
If you agreed to that and the casino does not employ any cheats then that will be a binding contract between the two. If you lose then that is on you and it is not
anyone's fault and no one is criminally liable.

I don’t agree with you at all. Casinos are hubs of crimes and they produce criminals who harm common people. People who gamble and lose money, they in rage play more to give a damn to casinos but almost every time they lose and even if they win, they play more to satisfy their greed. When they are done with their money, they rob others for money.

I really don't think that those who own casinos are criminals n any way. If their casinos are making profits in positive manners without scamming others then they are not considered criminal but business people. They have opened casinos for earning huge potential, and they are working on their casinos day by day to improve them in any way they can. Although, the person who's the owner of the casino is a simple man but his ideas are mostly to make profits. If some losses his all money while gambling on casinos then that's the mistake of that person not the casino. There might be some criminals running casinos but I really think that they will be very few not majority.

I don't understand. OP hasn't given any justification of why he'd even consider them being criminals. It's true that in some countries gambling is banned so you can be treated like a criminal if you're caught running a casino, but in general gambling is allowed. If you have anything against gambling, be honest about it, we'll be happy to hear your opinion.

I've never felt like that. The rules of gambling are clear and you know what you're getting into. It's not like they're lying to you or cheating you.
In the end it's just business, nothing more, nothing less.
That said, if the casino owner is cheating and rigging the games, he's of course breaking the law, but I guess OP was asking about the casinos that are legit and fair.

As in any branche there are legit and criminal casino owners. It is like saying all bitcoin holders are criminals. The same nonsense.

Bitcoin's image are literally on this point since it was known most of the time in the dark market. Getting back at the casino's, I don't know if legit casino's are being own by criminals. We don't have any background on the owners and most of them wants to remain anonymous. We may say they are or not, really can't say something about this topic.

What ever you said about gamblers are true but I didn't understand how we can blame casino owners for gamblers mistakes? If you say like that most of the land based casinos got a licence from governments to run that means your going to blame those governments as well for gamblers mistakes? No one is forcing to gamble but it all depends on people how they can control themselves.

They are not criminals but some are conmen everything is part of their business gaining strategy in which the more people becomes gambler the more potential income are coming in to their pockets.

No I don't think those who own casinos or run them are all criminals and conmen because if they were then they would've had the permission to put up such business in the first place. Maybe in some other countries there are cases like these but I don't think most of them re criminals just because they have huge profits putting up such kind of business.

I think most of them are anonymous so we'd never know. It doesn't really matter if it's a provably fair game. If Satoshi was a cat strangling teenager it wouldn't change the fact that bitcoins are a great invention.

When it comes to real world illegal casinos, they are often tied to organized crime, because organized crime just takes every illegal business under its wing - drugs, prostitution, gunsm etc. But on the internet, casinos can be very independent, as they don't need any "protection". So, they are just like any other business, trying to offer the best service to their customers. There's a common misconception that casinos get profit because they are cheating, but in reality they just have a small publicly disclosed edge, and when it comes to Bitcoin casinos, this edge is much smaller than the edge of legal fiat casinos. I personally had very good experience with Bitcoin casinos, and I see that they really care for their customers and always try to improve.

In business, their are several are so wise when it comes ro their businesses they don't want to lose to their competitors. They don't like competitors, they hate it so much because their is possibilities that their business will be broke or ruined because of their competitor business. So, in matter of Casino Owners I believe that they are criminals too why? Their is possibilities that they kill people to run their Casino well. Those politicals sometimes are together with them. Because owners of Casinos is a big peoples also.

To run one casino you must have political background otherwise it is not possible to open a casino. And do you know one thing which is running the country they will get funding from all casinos. So they will support casino owners. This is all mutual understanding. I am not sure online casinos will pay money to govt, but the real casinos must fund politicians.

You would really need that one specially if the government of your country is somehow a corrupt one.Besides on seeking investors or even politician you would still able to pay up some amounts to them percentage basing on whats the income of the casino.It do sucks right? This is why i do seldom see casinos on my place.

Casinos are legitimate business as long as they are officially licensed to operate as such and i don't think that casinos owners are to be categorized as con-men or criminals, They don't force anyone to come to their casinos and play and there are few who rig their games to cheat their customers and eventually they are the one who ultimately lose because people don't come to their casinos anymore.

no not at all, they are just bussiness minded people who wants to earn money too. because not all people who gambled and has a tatoos are criminals and bad people , some f them are just want to be look like that but they have a pure clean hearts and dignity. they are just bussiness minded dont stereotype them, not all of them are like that. some of them are good and nice people .

Who really cares if you are having a good time in their casino,when you are running a huge establishment you might see some criminals here and there and that does not mean that every casino is run by criminals,the only thing you have to note is that you are having a good time and having a fair game and that is what matters.

Maybe because let's say I'm a criminal that has a lot of money from drugs then I would consider running a casino. Gambling and drugs are somehow connected to each other so it's possible.

why do you say casinos owner are criminals i think not the owner or the casinos operators are not criminal, as my knowledge the casinos before operate the games around the world have a permit to operate as legit business in every nation.

Yes exactly, I don't know why OP is having that question. It is pretty obvious that a big casino couldn't just keep running if it was illegal or was ran illegally by criminals. All the casinos require a permit by government, and if you see any casino running it means it's permitted by the government after doing all its checks.
It's completely other matter that criminals do gamble in these casinos but that's nothing the owner can do about.

What a give us surprise for asking it.
Actually, i don't know about any casino's owner. But i know about my campaign, where i am working on Betcoin.ag and it is good campaign and also its owner very gentleman and honest, i am sure he will be.
But about the real casinos i have no idea. Because i am not going in real casinos.

At least they don't hide what they are doing and don't deceive others about what they are doing.

The worst criminals do the opposite.

Then I would like to give you an adviser. Hope you don't mind taking it. Google this topic and think again. Most probably, you will learn the truth. Casinos are run by mafias and mobsters. I am not saying all of them but there are some that are owned by criminals.

Well initially gambling casino's were run by Mafia isn't it? Specially in the Las Vegas arena. That's far as the history of casino I know. However, I really do think that the latest casino's now are run by legitimate business owners. Or maybe they are just a front of mafia for all we know. I'm talking about landbased casino's here. But for online bitcoin games which just recently started, they are legitimate and no connection in the underwold in my opinion. Because this revolution was not started by the Mafia, but rather owners/investors who took advantage of bitcoin as mode of deposit and withdrawal for anyone to be able to gamble online.

No I do not think that all casino owners & managers are criminals. If you mean criminals in the sense that they might dodge or avoid paying the correct tax or something but not serious criminals no.

There are some casinos what take your money and disappear after some period of time,but most of them are cheating you,read link,you will see how it is done http://random.org/

But Ladybroker has been found guilty of money laundering and what nothing,becouse gambling is incredible business and bookies are sponsors of many events

We are not discussing that whether the terms or conditions make you a criminal or not. How can terms make anyone criminal? OP is just asking that are casinos RUN BY or OWN BY mobsters. Definitely, the casinos of Las Vegas are property of great mafias and gangster, if not all then most of them.

Its always been backed by Big people which it cant really be easily closed by someone.You are right i do believe the same thing which those casinos might really be owned by those mafias or rich businessmen. As long they are doing fair games it wont really be a problem and all casino owners would really put anything that you wanted when it comes on what kind of games you do want to play.I cant say that they are much better on political personalities since they do have on different field.

i think they are only ordinary people which have big money and they want to make their finance increase so they make casinos and the casino is growth. i don't think that they are criminals, i think they are only want to make bigger their money because they know that people really like to play gambling so they make the casino.

Bitcoin provide alternative job so people try to invent new job in order to attract new worker to come in. It's reasonable since bitcoin can be use for investation or as currency  , people may interest on bitcoin especially the value reach $ 4000

Not always it can be connected. There are many owners who honestly pay taxes and do not deceive anyone. It is just necessary to understand that gambling is very risky and it is calculated to bring profit only to the owner, not to the players.

Casino owners are not crimimnals or conmen. That is why some countries approved and allows these to operate. However, on the other hand, casino really test the strength of the willpower of the individual. If you are unable to control yourself, you will end up lose everything.

I agree as a matter of fact, some of the major casino are sponsored by the government.  Just like in my country most casino are regulated and others are simply owned by the government.  They get lots of money on that gaming and amusement stuff.  These institution even fund credited charity by the government so I guess owners of casino are not criminals or conmen probably the one that is illegally operating is owned by them.

I consider casino as just another lucrative business but there has been several example of bitcoin casino getting bankrupt because of poor mangement and unbalance expense on marketing. So not all casino owners can earn good amount of money and if they are running only provably fair games than they can't rig games to scam their users. Therefore I don't consider casino owners as criminals or conman, they are just a businessman who want to make as much profit as possible.

Anyone can open a bitcoin related casino, it's very easy due to the nature of bitcoin which offer a sort of anonymity. So the owner of a casino maybe a normal person like all of us (hopefully) here in the forum but can also be a criminal who have decided to launder some of his money so invest in opening a bitcoin casino. I personally prefer to think that the owners of the casino are normal people though.

I think that most of them are perfectly honest. Also, although many say that criminals do money laundry in casinos etc, is that really possible? I don't entirely understand how money laundry works, I only know what I saw in movies or TV shows like Narcos, but don't they need to eventually pass through a legal source in order to clean the money? How can they do it in bitcoin casinos, if they most of them probably don't even have a license?

As long as their casino are legit and not rigged at all, no way they could be branded as criminals. Before you start gambling on their casinos, you accept their terms, you know about all the risks. The casinos clearly reveals their house edge, that is their advantage. They have nothing hidden - and you deiced to gamble there even after knowing everything. So the casinos are not doing anything illegal to brand them as criminals.

That's the point never to forget to read the terms and conditions as long as theres no misleading information that favored for them and as long as you agree with that they are sitting as legit so better to look for those houses who provided clear information about this.

One thing I'm curious about on license of Gambling casino. How to check if their license was legit. I want to know what is the right site that holds the database for all the license of a trusted casino. It is easy to present a fake license because it was very hard to verify. Normal gamblers won't mind checking it once they saw the license.  ;D

There is no eligibility to run a casino. One need money to run it he may or may not be a criminal. I can't relate casinos and criminal. If you think they are committing crime by attracting people towards their casinos and people getting addicted to it and ending up loosing their money then I will support your statement a bit.

Of course they aren't unless they own a scam site, or they don't pay users that won. If they own legit gambling site, it's fine in my opinion, as they are just trying to earn-this is totally fine.

It is mostly them to run casinos you need lot of money , you need to have so many licenses and many other verification it's not easy to start a physical casino plus you need pay huge amount of taxes and most people who come to gamble ate criminals and if you are a normal person they will easily take advantage of you

Not really. Most of them are just businessmen in a very profitable industry. The unfortunate thing is that some people can't control themselves and lose more than their fair share in the casino

Yes some of them are already rich people trying to expand their business structures. Criminals can't create a business since they are already wanted or have a record in the government. These criminals can only do underground business in the black market to hide their true identity.

There may be some, but indon't think majority of them are. These are businessmen who knows how to take advantage of people's weaknessnfor gambling. It's mot their fault that people lose money over gambling. Iyself would like to be own a casino since its a very good source of income

Mobsters do have ties with land based casinos. I can give some examples also. Like Aladdin casino, Circus Casino, Desert Inn Casino, Dunes Casino, Riviera Casino and The Sands Casino are some in Las Vegas that are owned by gangsters and mobsters. Obviously, not all of them but some are.

If we talk about this in general, then absolutely running a casino is a simple business like others and people just play different games in there. However, most of the people do not consider gambling as something worthy of a profession and unfortunately; this world has criminals as its customer. LA has some casinos that are owned by mafia but crime is involved everywhere. It is just not exposed in other types of business.

Exactly the terms and conditions are quite same throughout the country casinos. You are right, most of the casinos are run by gangsters, and even a whole gang administrator a group of casinos.

So, yes if the question is about the casino owners, then maximum of them are criminals.

By this definition, not only casino owners but many other businessmen are criminals. It is not only the politicians or the casino runners who try to protect their capital from demolishing, but all the rich people are rich because they have trampled others who they thought were an obstacle in their ways.

In my opinion, they are neither both. They are simply businessmen who is trying to be smart by maximising their returns and they are making it good for themselves. Couple with the reason that most of the the allegations against them are merely hear say since it cannot be verified with evidence and those that have been casted are the ones that can be said to be criminals and conmen. So far you still cover up, you are a businessman.

Even myself dont really bother to look out for those licensed of a certain gambling site and as you said verifying them would really be hard and this is why most people dont really care at all as long they do pay when they win in the site.It is already a strong proof that the site is legit but risk of scam anytime soon cant really be avoided.

Running a casino or owning a gambling site is not just simple businesses. If gambling does not have a very good reputation that does not imply that the owners are also bad people. However, there are some families who are mobsters and they own casinos but so is the case with other businesses. A criminal if has a lot of money, may have restaurant, mall or something else.

almost most casino owners must have other businesses out there
just to mask they hide their real business
because having a casino is the biggest source of income that I know
and of course the cost they spend to build a casino to be famous is not a bit.
and which is ultimately commensurate with the income they earn from casinos

Yes, the reasons there are a few reasons why some casinos might be tied with organized crime, first they can be used for money laundering as it is very easy to create fake winnings which can be used for masking masking illegal incomes. This is one of the reasons why casinos are regulated. The second reason is that some gamblers fall in debts and when banks stop giving them loans, they might seek private loans from mafia. The third reason is that in countries where gambling is outlawed it is run or protected by organized crime, just like other outlawed activities like drug selling or prostitution.

get you point from there mate even criminals also do have well established business franchise they used that to cover their bad deeds, and i think
its not right to condemn casino owners as a criminal right away as long as they are paying and they running their business in the correct manner
they can still consider as businessman.

Some of them yes,thay are opening casinos just to steal money,Even reputable casinos,bookies like Ladybroker has been found guilty of money launderin.Give them scan of my id,do i know for what purpose it can be used

It all depends on you to see from which side, if you are a gambler. of course will say they are not criminals but if you are not a gambler then you will say they are criminals or conmen.

Honestly, many businessmen do have more than one business but at the end they are dealing in only one type, which bring them success and prosperity. No doubt, people who are involved in wrong activities try to hide their actions and true identities while diversity gives huge profits also. You never know, whether a business is owned by a devil or an angel.