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Title: I always feel relieved when you have a good fall....how about you?
Post by: jubalix on September 05, 2017, 01:27:26 AM
It sort of gets rid of all the tension and makes it look more realistic, and wipes out a lot of the irrational actors...

I still don't know if the is a bump on the way to the ATH though.....


Title: Re: I always feel relieved when you have a good fall....how about you?
Post by: TryNinja on September 05, 2017, 02:43:43 AM
It also makes me feel good. When the price is too high, I'm always tempted on selling my coins because of the fall that may come anytime, and it's normal for most people to think more about profit than the technology itself.

I know that it sounds weird, but when the price goes down, I'm glad that I still have my coins and there is no more reasons to sell them. Do you think that makes sense?


Title: Re: I always feel relieved when you have a good fall....how about you?
Post by: Bitcoinaire on September 05, 2017, 02:55:44 AM
It sort of gets rid of all the tension and makes it look more realistic, and wipes out a lot of the irrational actors...

I still don't know if the is a bump on the way to the ATH though.....

I also agree that a nice, deep pullback is healthy for a strong bull market. Time will tell if this is a bump on the way to an ATH, but I think with all crypto hedge funds getting into the scene, along with general investor appetite, we'll be at an ATH before the year ends.


Title: Re: I always feel relieved when you have a good fall....how about you?
Post by: pooya87 on September 05, 2017, 03:00:58 AM
no i become the most nervous i have ever been because i need to rush to transfer as much money as i can afford to my exchange accounts in order to buy more bitcoins before it is too late.

and the bottoms usually happen in a blinking of an eye.

i agree though, it is a good relieve of tension and hopefully puts an end to all the bubble talk.


Title: Re: I always feel relieved when you have a good fall....how about you?
Post by: JanpriX on September 05, 2017, 03:08:14 AM
It sort of gets rid of all the tension and makes it look more realistic, and wipes out a lot of the irrational actors...

I still don't know if the is a bump on the way to the ATH though.....

I almost feel the same way when this type of fall happens. It just provide me a realization that I can still buy BTC at lower prices and then will just have to wait for it to come back up to sell at a profit. Just always to take in mind to take profit when you think the price is too high. Bitcoin's price history tells us a story that when it hit ATH (or almost hit it), selloff will follow. Always.


Title: Re: I always feel relieved when you have a good fall....how about you?
Post by: DaMut on September 05, 2017, 07:58:19 AM
Yeah we should feel that way,
because if we're going straight to the moon without pull back i am afraid we will see another crash.
it's an economy cycle,they will press the price to get more and they will pump to get profit.
if we're going straight to the point that we're hyping,i am afraid the bubble will explode and it's very hard to recover.
i believe if something like that happen a lot of people will lose their money so badly and noone want to trade it anymore.
it's just matter of time when we will see another pump again which is will lead us to another ATH (I hope so)


Title: Re: I always feel relieved when you have a good fall....how about you?
Post by: timerland on September 05, 2017, 09:58:49 AM
It sort of gets rid of all the tension and makes it look more realistic, and wipes out a lot of the irrational actors...

I still don't know if the is a bump on the way to the ATH though.....

Well said.

I think that this dump actually saved bitcoin from a much more devastating correction that was coming as the end of the bubble. I think that this dump reminded people a bit that bitcoin is not going to go up forever, it is simply not sustainable.

We've seen a floor at $4000, and a quick recovery as soon as the floor was breached.

For me i think we are going to see btc float around $3800-4200 level for the next few days.


Title: Re: I always feel relieved when you have a good fall....how about you?
Post by: soothaa on September 05, 2017, 04:26:42 PM
Totally agree. Shakeouts are good. Temporary panic selling from those who are weak handed or do not understand what is going on, but for those of us with longer term goals and have a bigger picture in mind, it is great.

It resets strengths, lowers the price for lower entries, it is kind of like a nice rain storm, flushes away and almost starts fresh! So here is to a few days of screwing around finding support until we have a go at $5,000 again!


Title: Re: I always feel relieved when you have a good fall....how about you?
Post by: MissionPhailed on September 05, 2017, 08:17:18 PM
It depends on the movement of prices before the drop for me personally; a (too) rapid surge in value makes me kinda wary as this leads to a significant correction in most cases. I've gotten a bit suspicious in these cases as I've bought crypto during sharp rises (FOMO) several times and subsequently got burned.

Yes, I see the correction we've experienced in the last few days as a positive development.


Title: Re: I always feel relieved when you have a good fall....how about you?
Post by: Youghoor on September 05, 2017, 08:21:11 PM
It sort of gets rid of all the tension and makes it look more realistic, and wipes out a lot of the irrational actors...

I still don't know if the is a bump on the way to the ATH though.....

Well said.

I think that this dump actually saved bitcoin from a much more devastating correction that was coming as the end of the bubble. I think that this dump reminded people a bit that bitcoin is not going to go up forever, it is simply not sustainable.

We've seen a floor at $4000, and a quick recovery as soon as the floor was breached.

For me i think we are going to see btc float around $3800-4200 level for the next few days.

I think the same as you, but it $3800-$4200 i dont see it possible. It is almost at 4.5k right now, i think it will go up towards 4.7k and stay there for some time.
It is good when the price goes up, but it need to be stable at some point, people still need time to collect some money and be able to buy, i think it is good to give a chance to those people who still have not buyed any coin.


Title: Re: I always feel relieved when you have a good fall....how about you?
Post by: Vaskiy on September 05, 2017, 08:28:02 PM
Majority of the bitcoin users have such a relaxation, because after every price dumping there will be a price pumping with which the users try to make the profit out of the same. Everytime reaching an new ATH makes the users happy, but an internal panic always prevails. On the whole bitcoin is all about risk involved.


Title: Re: I always feel relieved when you have a good fall....how about you?
Post by: Siren on September 05, 2017, 08:37:34 PM
It sort of gets rid of all the tension and makes it look more realistic, and wipes out a lot of the irrational actors...

I still don't know if the is a bump on the way to the ATH though.....


Totally agreed. Weak hands have been shaken and strong hands prevail. It's also a perfect time for new faces that would like to get their hands on those precious bitcoin. That's why it's called a healthy price correction. Actually sooner or later we will see this kind of correction, however the Chinese announcement has really accelerated the situation.

But what do you know? Bitcoin is currently rallying again at $4500 so this bump has already been pass and I think this is a sign that we are going to go for $5000 or more in the coming months.


Title: Re: I always feel relieved when you have a good fall....how about you?
Post by: jubalix on September 06, 2017, 12:56:20 AM
feels dead cat bouncy.....i think another few days of 5~15% off would make it better in the long run.


Title: Re: I always feel relieved when you have a good fall....how about you?
Post by: alyssa85 on September 06, 2017, 04:21:15 AM
It sort of gets rid of all the tension and makes it look more realistic, and wipes out a lot of the irrational actors...

I still don't know if the is a bump on the way to the ATH though.....

Well they do say that Markets "climb a wall of worry".

The bitcoin price rose too fast - from $300 to $4900 in just a month. So if it consolidates for a while at the current price, it will allow it to form a new base price on which to build further rises later in the year.


Title: Re: I always feel relieved when you have a good fall....how about you?
Post by: HeRetiK on September 06, 2017, 07:20:41 AM
It sort of gets rid of all the tension and makes it look more realistic, and wipes out a lot of the irrational actors...

I still don't know if the is a bump on the way to the ATH though.....

Well they do say that Markets "climb a wall of worry".

The bitcoin price rose too fast - from $300 to $4900 in just a month. So if it consolidates for a while at the current price, it will allow it to form a new base price on which to build further rises later in the year.

Definitely.

The current price levels still need to sink in as the "new normal". Knowing Bitcoin though, it won't be long until it tries to make another break for USD 5k,-. Question being, where we'll go from there. Breaking through too soon could lead to an unhealthy mania. Failing to break USD 5k,- could turn the sentiment bearish and lead to a reversal.


Title: Re: I always feel relieved when you have a good fall....how about you?
Post by: Denker on September 06, 2017, 07:31:25 AM
no i become the most nervous i have ever been because i need to rush to transfer as much money as i can afford to my exchange accounts in order to buy more bitcoins before it is too late.

and the bottoms usually happen in a blinking of an eye.

i agree though, it is a good relieve of tension and hopefully puts an end to all the bubble talk.

Well if you would always have a little bit of cash on an exchange of your choice, you wouldn't be in that situation. Just a few hundred bucks. When BTC dips, you buy and done. You may not have bought for several thousands this way, but at least you bought some. And then you can still transfer some bigger amounts to an exchange and buy if you think the price is worth it. It also lowers your average buying price this way.


Title: Re: I always feel relieved when you have a good fall....how about you?
Post by: Blamsud on September 06, 2017, 07:36:56 AM
no i become the most nervous i have ever been because i need to rush to transfer as much money as i can afford to my exchange accounts in order to buy more bitcoins before it is too late.

and the bottoms usually happen in a blinking of an eye.

i agree though, it is a good relieve of tension and hopefully puts an end to all the bubble talk.

Well if you would always have a little bit of cash on an exchange of your choice, you wouldn't be in that situation. Just a few hundred bucks. When BTC dips, you buy and done. You may not have bought for several thousands this way, but at least you bought some. And then you can still transfer some bigger amounts to an exchange and buy if you think the price is worth it. It also lowers your average buying price this way.
It's always good to have a back-up we shoyld not fully rely that btc will be at top always, it will fall but surely we rise. So we should be prepared when falls happen so we don't need to panic


Title: Re: I always feel relieved when you have a good fall....how about you?
Post by: bamboylee on September 06, 2017, 07:45:48 AM
Of course because it opens up opportunity to buy more bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. As long as it is not a crash, a dip every now and then is a healthy opportunity to the market.


Title: Re: I always feel relieved when you have a good fall....how about you?
Post by: talkbitcoin on September 06, 2017, 08:55:14 AM
feels dead cat bouncy.....i think another few days of 5~15% off would make it better in the long run.

"dead cat bounce" is when something is dead and falling but on the way down it comes back up. do you think bitcoin is dead and will continue to fall down? because that is what a dead cat bounce really means!

for now bitcoin may fluctuate a little but it won't be a 15% drop that would suggest price can fall down to $3825 from $4500 which is impossible. the lowest it may get is somewhere around $4250


Title: Re: I always feel relieved when you have a good fall....how about you?
Post by: iamTom123 on September 06, 2017, 09:22:38 AM
It also makes me feel good. When the price is too high, I'm always tempted on selling my coins because of the fall that may come anytime, and it's normal for most people to think more about profit than the technology itself. I know that it sounds weird, but when the price goes down, I'm glad that I still have my coins and there is no more reasons to sell them. Do you think that makes sense?

It does makes good sense actually in light of how Bitcoin is behaving historically. Bitcoin has had so many dips and ups and I think that only newbies would be crying a river whenever there would be some corrections happening. The recent news in China was a big factor why Bitcoin got into a big correction days ago but look at it now...Bitcoin is back on the action and is rising again just proving that it is really resilient and it was just implementing the necessary dips so that a big bubble can be avoided.

Newbies can panic anytime they hear that the value is making some retreats and then they convert their Bitcoin either into cash or other coins...only to find out later that it is now back to the same level where the holder left off. I once experienced that feeling and I have already learned my big lessons well.

I will "hodl" mine and I am happy with it.


Title: Re: I always feel relieved when you have a good fall....how about you?
Post by: magneto on September 06, 2017, 09:27:07 AM
It sort of gets rid of all the tension and makes it look more realistic, and wipes out a lot of the irrational actors...

I still don't know if the is a bump on the way to the ATH though.....

I think so. I would really rather have bitcoin drop but have the price level at a more sustainable level, than at a level that i know could tumble at any time because it is most likely a bubble. And this drop sort of did exactly that.

However now that it is making the recovery we may be re-entering the bubble. So still be cautious while investing.

The bullishness seems pretty strong so it would make sense for someone to predict that the ATH is going to be broken once again. I would say that the hype for bitcoin as well as the momentum is strong enough that we will get a second chance at breaking $5000.


Title: Re: I always feel relieved when you have a good fall....how about you?
Post by: btcney on September 06, 2017, 10:08:52 AM
It sort of gets rid of all the tension and makes it look more realistic, and wipes out a lot of the irrational actors...

I still don't know if the is a bump on the way to the ATH though.....

Not relieved per se, because there is always a possibility that the dump will just not recover at all. We were pretty lucky that this dump recovered fast, and pretty much investors didn't lose money at all or even gained some if they didn't panic sell.

But yeah, it essentially "cleans out" the irrational actors as you said. Gives people a heads up that bitcoin cannot go up forever and warns them to be more careful when buying.

I really think that we will be able to break $5000 this or next month, however how long we can stay above $5000 i have no idea and nobody can predict.


Title: Re: I always feel relieved when you have a good fall....how about you?
Post by: darkangel11 on September 06, 2017, 08:21:58 PM
When I was trading I actually liked the falls because it's less boring. That is of course if you don't miss it ;)
Now I'm holding and prefer the price to go up without any corrections (yes it's my greed speaking), though I know a correction is a healthy thing. It's much better for the price of it corrects once every 2 weeks than when it keeps going up like crazy for a year and then goes back so much that people start overselling and we have 2015 all over again.


Title: Re: I always feel relieved when you have a good fall....how about you?
Post by: audaciousbeing on September 06, 2017, 09:49:24 PM
It sort of gets rid of all the tension and makes it look more realistic, and wipes out a lot of the irrational actors...

I still don't know if the is a bump on the way to the ATH though.....
Even me myself when the price increases without any fall, I tend to have some feelings at the back of my mind that the promoters of bitcoin being a bubble might have a point but I just wave it off with reasons and even several confidence of other contributors but when we see a setback like that of recently, I just feel they are wrong and a shame to all rumours mongers.


Title: Re: I always feel relieved when you have a good fall....how about you?
Post by: Kyraishi on September 07, 2017, 07:22:26 AM
It sort of gets rid of all the tension and makes it look more realistic, and wipes out a lot of the irrational actors...

I still don't know if the is a bump on the way to the ATH though.....

Same here, i feel the same way. It gives people a bit of rationality when there are crazy pumps going on every single day, in my opinion. Sometimes it is easy to forget that bitcoin is extremely volatile, and not only in the upwards direction.

Since we have recovered so quickly i would expect the trend to continue well until the end of this month.

Will it be another all time high with this pump? I think there is a high chance that there will be. The bubble is probably not going to end this month yet. We could potentially see $5500+ or even $6000+ as an all time high.


Title: Re: I always feel relieved when you have a good fall....how about you?
Post by: Kingofbitcoin12345 on September 07, 2017, 08:10:54 AM
It also makes me feel good. When the price is too high, I'm always tempted on selling my coins because of the fall that may come anytime, and it's normal for most people to think more about profit than the technology itself.

I know that it sounds weird, but when the price goes down, I'm glad that I still have my coins and there is no more reasons to sell them. Do you think that makes sense?

It doesn't sounds weird at all,, it is how investments and trading works.. We just have to think that we are lucky enough on the unstable price of bitcoin we tend to think about chances on next ups and downs.. It make sense that you'll be happy having your bitcoin in hold than sold on cheap or decreased price.. It is how human think and how we find ways to complement ourselves on deciding the right thing..


Title: Re: I always feel relieved when you have a good fall....how about you?
Post by: Casabrandy on September 07, 2017, 09:19:39 AM
It also makes me feel good. When the price is too high, I'm always tempted on selling my coins because of the fall that may come anytime, and it's normal for most people to think more about profit than the technology itself.

I know that it sounds weird, but when the price goes down, I'm glad that I still have my coins and there is no more reasons to sell them. Do you think that makes sense?

It doesn't sounds weird at all,, it is how investments and trading works.. We just have to think that we are lucky enough on the unstable price of bitcoin we tend to think about chances on next ups and downs.. It make sense that you'll be happy having your bitcoin in hold than sold on cheap or decreased price.. It is how human think and how we find ways to complement ourselves on deciding the right thing..
Bitcoin recovering way too fast now. It falls then after a while it will just suddenly pump. The fall before took time before it recovers but now especially after the split btc performance were indeed excellent and we can see that it is more convenient to invest on it.


Title: Re: I always feel relieved when you have a good fall....how about you?
Post by: ankylotic on September 07, 2017, 10:10:59 AM
It also makes me feel good. When the price is too high, I'm always tempted on selling my coins because of the fall that may come anytime, and it's normal for most people to think more about profit than the technology itself.

I know that it sounds weird, but when the price goes down, I'm glad that I still have my coins and there is no more reasons to sell them. Do you think that makes sense?

It doesn't sounds weird at all,, it is how investments and trading works.. We just have to think that we are lucky enough on the unstable price of  we tend to think about chances on next ups and downs.. It make sense that you'll be happy having your  in hold than sold on cheap or decreased price.. It is how human think and how we find ways to complement ourselves on deciding the right thing..
i don't think it is comfortable for any of the trader who has a huge number of investment in the altcoins and cryptocurrency.
those who have invested in neo when the price was on its peak and willing for the price to touch $100. ofcourse they will not be happy and i think  those who put all their eggs in that basket at time are not happy at all.


Title: Re: I always feel relieved when you have a good fall....how about you?
Post by: jekjekman on September 07, 2017, 04:07:56 PM
Almost all of the bitcoin users that is old enough in using this currency knew about the fall down in price of bitcoin that it is normal after a huge pump in price with it.

But for those people who just started investing their fiat money in bitcoin is so scared that they will just sell it fast when the dip has come, sad for them though. I learned from my mistake and that is the best experience for me so far.


Title: Re: I always feel relieved when you have a good fall....how about you?
Post by: Kingofbitcoin12345 on September 08, 2017, 06:05:06 AM
Almost all of the bitcoin users that is old enough in using this currency knew about the fall down in price of bitcoin that it is normal after a huge pump in price with it.

But for those people who just started investing their fiat money in bitcoin is so scared that they will just sell it fast when the dip has come, sad for them though. I learned from my mistake and that is the best experience for me so far.

That's what I observe too from a friend of mine who is been trading and investing few years back,, he is even my alert on things like this.. That is why I posted about,, "lack of knowledge or inexperienced is one reason" that most new investors are panic when the price is decreasing for in fact there is no need to.. Bitcoin is been in that movement since it started.. I'm not as good as any body else cause I'm still a newbie in this kind of work but those who are good are the one that in trading since 2010 until now..


Title: Re: I always feel relieved when you have a good fall....how about you?
Post by: Silberman on September 08, 2017, 09:53:47 PM
It also makes me feel good. When the price is too high, I'm always tempted on selling my coins because of the fall that may come anytime, and it's normal for most people to think more about profit than the technology itself.

I know that it sounds weird, but when the price goes down, I'm glad that I still have my coins and there is no more reasons to sell them. Do you think that makes sense?
Yeah it makes sense, it means that you are no longer tempted to sell, temptation can be a horrible thing and only those that have strength of character are able to overcome it, that is why you feel relived since you no longer have to make the great effort of resisting the urge to sell your coins and have fun with your profits, many have fell prey of that feeling and now are paying the price.


Title: Re: I always feel relieved when you have a good fall....how about you?
Post by: BitFinnese on September 08, 2017, 11:09:45 PM
It sort of gets rid of all the tension and makes it look more realistic, and wipes out a lot of the irrational actors...

I still don't know if the is a bump on the way to the ATH though.....

I do not care if there is a fall or not, good or bad, as long as I can trade with profit I am fine whatever comes  ;D.  After all isn't it profit that we traders are after? 



Correction is always there whenever a sudden increase in price occurs, it is expected.  Traders take advantage of this, and besides, demand keeps filing up after the dip during correction.  This is a good sign, new hands entering during dip and these means more supporter.


Title: Re: I always feel relieved when you have a good fall....how about you?
Post by: BitMaxz on September 08, 2017, 11:47:02 PM
It sort of gets rid of all the tension and makes it look more realistic, and wipes out a lot of the irrational actors...

I still don't know if the is a bump on the way to the ATH though.....

I do not care if there is a fall or not, good or bad, as long as I can trade with profit I am fine whatever comes  ;D.  After all isn't it profit that we traders are after? 



Correction is always there whenever a sudden increase in price occurs, it is expected.  Traders take advantage of this, and besides, demand keeps filing up after the dip during correction.  This is a good sign, new hands entering during dip and these means more supporter.
Guys don't be afraid about the fall it is just only in the china exchange and i think it will be ok soon ..
And i think it will not fall more a lot because as soon the other exchange in other country are alive bitcoin will be still valuable and if you are living in china don't be worry your bitcoin will be still had a value because you can be still sell them in other country where bitcoin is not ban.
People are just panic selling because of the news without thinking that bitcoin will be still valuable. Its just an exchanges in china not in the whole world.
If you are living china and holding a lots of bitcoin you can be still exchange other exchange site and bitcoin is anonymous and they will never trace your money if you exchange it into other currency. .


Title: Re: I always feel relieved when you have a good fall....how about you?
Post by: Silberman on September 16, 2017, 01:50:25 AM
It sort of gets rid of all the tension and makes it look more realistic, and wipes out a lot of the irrational actors...

I still don't know if the is a bump on the way to the ATH though.....
You got what you wanted but the price now is going up once again, I think we need to get used to this behavior of bitcoin, while I would like a slower growth based and the merits of bitcoin, bitcoin has proven once again that is not the way it will grow, people are going to get very optimistic about the price and then a few days later people will begin to wonder if bitcoin is going to survive, it is sad but that is the way things are.