Title: KickICO - Scam (Old Worthless Tokens) Post by: Johnnywelsh on September 05, 2017, 08:22:41 PM What happened::
So for anyone that doesn't know KickICO had major problems with their smart contract during the ICO and had to switch to a new crowdsale address after 600 million coins were deposited to an unknown address. As a result anyone left with tokens from KickICO_Old is left with tokens worth 0. The news article said they'd transfer new tokens to those affected within a week. I invested 0.4 Eth in the ICO and am now left with the old style tokens despite trying to get a resolution for having the new smart contract tokens issued. Source: https://medium.com/@kickico/how-they-tried-to-hack-our-ico-d348659dc4 Tried to get an answer from two of their support staff, one told me to add the new token address and they'd magically refresh within 24 hours, even though no tokens had been transferred. Copy of chat discussion below, either I got something seriously misunderstood or it's just a blatant scam. Is anyone else in the same boat of having only tokens from KickICO_Old? Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1048997 Reference Link: https://www.kickico.com/campaigns/999/ico Amount Scammed: 0.4 Eth Payment Method: ICO Contribution Proof of Payment: https://etherscan.io/tx/0x40df529dc02d969c2fe10e8e262477f6d15e0e8f5411cdeb0aa1fffb877a8a00 PM/Chat Logs: https://ibb.co/jKbt1v Additional Notes: Recommend to avoid, but posted for people to make up their own minds. Title: Re: KickICO - Scam (Old Worthless Tokens) Post by: giveen on September 06, 2017, 08:01:18 AM Can't you wait did they mention anywhere that people who deposited to the previous address will never get paid or any such claim.
It's obviously a no then why can't you wait for a week ico is not as easy as it looks to give you the tokens it can even take more than a week meaning of scam means you invested and they never gave you your tokens without an valid explaination. Title: Re: KickICO - Scam (Old Worthless Tokens) Post by: TheRealCypher22 on September 06, 2017, 08:04:56 AM What i'm very interesting in knowing is...
When will these old_tokens MOOOOOOONNNNNN Title: Re: KickICO - Scam (Old Worthless Tokens) Post by: TheRealCypher22 on September 06, 2017, 02:10:50 PM I came across this thread because I was googling KICKICO (in the UK) and this thread is the second Google search result. Given how high Google rank this scam report, I would say KICKICO is definitely a scam.
Think I'll stay away and put my money in Bitdice instead. Title: Re: KickICO - Scam (Old Worthless Tokens) Post by: Johnnywelsh on September 06, 2017, 04:03:13 PM Can't you wait did they mention anywhere that people who deposited to the previous address will never get paid or any such claim. It's obviously a no then why can't you wait for a week ico is not as easy as it looks to give you the tokens it can even take more than a week meaning of scam means you invested and they never gave you your tokens without an valid explaination. Can't tell if this post is supposed to just be trolling or not? did they mention anywhere that people who deposited to the previous address will never get paid or any such claim Obviously this is the #1 thing that all scammers do, they post that no one is going to get their coin. Lol are you for real? It's obviously a no then why can't you wait for a week ico What are you on about wait for a week for the ICO, do you mean to end? Can you show me any comms or announcements from the team referencing what you just mentioned? a week ico is not as easy as it looks to give you the tokens it can even take more than a week meaning of scam means you invested and they never gave you your tokens without an valid explaination. I'd fully expect any decent company or at least a decent scam to try to explain what happened and what measures would be taken to address the issue. Not a blog post saying "Our smart contract got hacked, we'll refund within a week". After a week, no ones had tokens from the new smart contract, they're not replying to twitter or facebook messages, their support people keep changing the story and both telegram groups have disappeared. If people choose to ignore all the above including yourself, that's fine. It's their loss at the end of the day. I'm just trying to contribute back to the community so others don't end up in position I'm in. Title: Re: KickICO - Scam (Old Worthless Tokens) Post by: giveen on September 07, 2017, 03:28:39 AM Can't you wait did they mention anywhere that people who deposited to the previous address will never get paid or any such claim. It's obviously a no then why can't you wait for a week ico is not as easy as it looks to give you the tokens it can even take more than a week meaning of scam means you invested and they never gave you your tokens without an valid explaination. Can't tell if this post is supposed to just be trolling or not? did they mention anywhere that people who deposited to the previous address will never get paid or any such claim Obviously this is the #1 thing that all scammers do, they post that no one is going to get their coin. Lol are you for real? It's obviously a no then why can't you wait for a week ico What are you on about wait for a week for the ICO, do you mean to end? Can you show me any comms or announcements from the team referencing what you just mentioned? a week ico is not as easy as it looks to give you the tokens it can even take more than a week meaning of scam means you invested and they never gave you your tokens without an valid explaination. I'd fully expect any decent company or at least a decent scam to try to explain what happened and what measures would be taken to address the issue. Not a blog post saying "Our smart contract got hacked, we'll refund within a week". After a week, no ones had tokens from the new smart contract, they're not replying to twitter or facebook messages, their support people keep changing the story and both telegram groups have disappeared. If people choose to ignore all the above including yourself, that's fine. It's their loss at the end of the day. I'm just trying to contribute back to the community so others don't end up in position I'm in. Speaking of your tokens if you didn't know tokens are free to issue and i don't see any reason for them to not send you your tokens. Btw just check their telegram they posted this on Sept " If you bought previous version of KickCoin, you'll get new automatically within a week, or sooner. BTC payments will be processed manually after ICO ends. " Just have some patience man it will only be a scam if you still didn't get even when it got listed on a exchange anyways it has no value for now so how will it even help you if it's in your wallet. Title: Re: KickICO - Scam (Old Worthless Tokens) Post by: TheRealCypher22 on September 07, 2017, 07:44:38 AM I think you are missing his point. He is saying that KICKICO's contract got hacked so they were issuing coins from a new contract. They told him he would have his tokens from the new contract within a week but he hasn't had them. When he contacts their support they don't give him a straight answer about why he still hasn't received them.
I think he is just trying to warn other potential investors that this may be a scam and they should be very careful about investing in the ICO as they might not get their tokens like him. Based on the information he has provided and the lack of any helpful communications coming from the team, I am fairly sure this is a scam so would also advise other potential investors to be very careful. Title: Re: KickICO - Scam (Old Worthless Tokens) Post by: nathank on September 08, 2017, 12:00:25 PM Yes I have the exact same problem. Chatting with them makes me feel even more like I am being scammed. Here's the Chat, which is only one of many along the same vein:
nathan Hi - My KC token address has still not updated to the new address as said it would. The token contract is still 0xefbdd2ca166b193075efe8530a612c5daa10012a. This is from 9 days ago, and I was assured that KC tokens from the new (post-hack) address would be added https://etherscan.io/token/............................. Alex Stone joined the chat Alex Stone Hi Have you added them with a new address? nathan yes. Alex Stone So, please. Wait. They will refresh nathan could you send the new address again? Anyway, they dont show up on etherscan i did it over a week ago Alex Stone To add KC tokens after sending to your wallet enter your Ethereum wallet (usually https://www.myetherwallet.com/#view-wallet-info) and select «Add custom token». You will see three fields: token name, address and decimals. Token name - KC Address - 0xc0e4f45b828aa4aa628e897e5da38d9dc72c2257 Decimals – 8 After that, click «Save» and you will see your KickCoin balance. nathan I'm starting to get concerned, as it has been over 1 week since i tried to add them. Still nothing Alex Stone You can see them it your wallet. You have nothing to worry about. They will refresh nathan I can't see them in my wallet. How long to refresh 9 days now Alex Stone I can't say you for sure. It's not depend's on me. nathan yes that is the old address. Hence, the KC_old I want the new tokens. Over 9 days waiting Alex Stone Yes. If you changed on a new that I gave you, it will change soon nathan It didn't change. I tried to use that new address 9 days ago 9 days is not soon Alex Stone They in your wallet. Wait till they refresh nathan can you please ask someone who knows when the refresh will happen? seems like you don't know what i am asking Alex Stone Seems you don't readt what I write to you. Can be at the end of ICO nathan Is it something that Kick has to do on their end? Are you guys are going to do that at the end of the ICO,? Alex Stone It's smart contract does. Not we, it's not manual procedure nathan yes I know....that is why i'm concerned as it's over 9 days. These usually take minutes Alex Stone First, he will be give new tokens to new people and their addresses, after that he will refresh the old one nathan So it has to be manually added? Alex Stone Yes With new address nathan OK. You just said it's not a manual procedure, then immediately say it is. Anyway, thanks for helping Alex Stone I said you have to add them by yourself with an adress I gave, that smart contract could find it As I was saying to you at the beginning of our conversation After that it will be automatic nathan I did that 9 days ago. and again today Alex Stone So now you have nothing to do. Just wait nathan ok Alex Stone You are welcome Have a nice day nathan you too Alex Stone Thank you I've chatted many times with them, with the same result of "wait". This, at the VERY best, is horrible customer service. But at this point I've pretty much written those ETH as lost. Title: Re: KickICO - Scam (Old Worthless Tokens) Post by: Kickico Bounty Hunter on September 08, 2017, 01:27:03 PM Hello!
Please I would like to assure you that all tokens will be distributed in 2-3 days after the ICO is over. As we declared the ICO end date to 16th of September - the distribution will be made around 20th of September. You are always welcome to get fast support in our official telegram channel https://t.me/kickico (https://t.me/kickico) |