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Recently the government of China has forbidden all ICOs and initiated a major check of all projects. Moreover, all ICOs now have to return the funds to investors.
Do you think same thing might happen in other countries as well, or everything will stop on China?

it'll be the same as bitcoin markets in china, icos will return there when they're regulated to china's satisfaction.

eventually most countries around the world will regulate them too. there's too much money and too much risk for them not to do something.

I agree with #2 but i think the reason for banning ICOs is actually just like with other investment schemes. They do want to protect the population, regulate the market and not have thousands of investors each case who lost money. Lots of investment scams going on, and ICO is a perfect platform for all of them, so i think thats why regulation comes. From what the REAL news actually is, related to china, and the hard facts about all countries, that it will be perfectly fine to launch new coins, but there needs to be some security, some clear warnings to investors (that they may lose all), maybe even documents signed, plus probably some external monitoring. And also it will surely become mandatory that the people behind an ICO cant enrich themselves from it just from the launch.

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Regulating or banning ICO's could be a good for the coin prices since the money in crypto will be spread over all coins, when there are less coins average price will be higher.

Although this is what keeps me busy

Yes it could happen elsewhere.
I think we must not lose sight of the fact that Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies are creating a new economic system which is a thread for central banks, state institutions and so on. And states and banks are still very powerful! So, they could present cryptocurrencies like something bad, dangerous, not safe, and they could make them illegal to protect themselves.

The event in China caused Bitcoin and Ethereum price to fall. Why do you think it might be a good thing?

Other dominant countries are expected to follow suit as they have seen the devastating effect the policy have on crypto coins and they will be ready to unleash this in as much that their intention is to kill digital currency but at the same time the implementation will not be the same across board while some countries will regulate in other to cut the overcrowded excesses.

So there is no real way to protect your investments? Just hope that it won't happen in nearest future? :)

This is what we should have done ourselves instead of letting in Government to do that for us, Gnosis, Aeternity etc are obvious greed and scam, I can pick for now. There should be no ICO that should raise more than $5 million. Most have nothing on ground and will raise millions of USD for no product.

Yes other countries may follow China and even if they don't ban ICOs completely they might bring them under law and make some strict rules for ICOs and even for cryptocurrencies under the pretext of preventing their misuse by criminals and terrorists.

No way, there are many countries like Japan and Malta doing everything in their power to accept bitcoin and then I think subsequently other alt coins as well

China just affects us more right now because it's such a large market but I really believe the scales will tip in the favour of more countries getting on board with crypto than those banning it

They have a greater concern with the economy of the country,

ICO's could end up with a government plan, but I find it unfair to ban cryptomoedas in general  ???

Not every country will ban ICOs. Or even put regulations on them. But I think the ICO craze will soon die off. Most of them seem to offer a product that is easy to make, they take the money, then take years to actually produce anything. It doesn't seem to be a great way to instill trust in the crypto community. Many projects have done really well without ICOs. Even if China and the US has strict regulations on ICOs people will find ways around it and invest anyway. I could see more ICOs offering to be funded with zencash, monero, zcash, and hosted in countries with no regulations.

There is a possibility that this might happen. China banning ICOs are one of the shocking and unexpected turn of events in ICO organization. Frankly, this really affects now the pricing of bitcoin. There is a also a possibility that the neighboring countries of China will be aware of this ICO. I hope they should consider and investigate and give chance for the ICO organization to explain their side and from that they should make a final decision.

I agree with you that all countries have the opportunity to make the regulation prohibit ICO for the same reason as the regulation made by China unless there is an ICO project in a country requesting the government's approval to make ICO and part of the profits left to the government I do not think the government will interfere about ico again.

Because the crypto market will otherwise be flooded with new coins, the China ban will help that this wont happen.

I kinda agree with you, there should be regulations and measures put in place to protect peoples investments in the ICOs

I've seen somewhere on this forum that all ICO raising more than $300,000 are scams. How to understand which opinion is right? Or these are just opinions and it is better to trust your own research?

kroken, japan had followed chinese goverment.

But if government interferes in every altcoin, won't it make every currency centralised? Isn't it what crypto community is trying to avoid?

In my opinion it is better that china and other counrty will regulate ICO as we can see whos legit and a really promising project to step on. As i heard about the news china decide to ban ICO to check the companies back ground of it so they will see whos Scam ICO this is a good news for the long run. But as of this situation our btc is not in danger.... Also investors can check the company profile if they have the foundation to make ICO and IPO

Well, when the craze will die in countries like USA or China, it will only begin in small countries. Unfortunately, that's what I see in my country. Most of people don't even know cryptocurrencies exist but I've already accidentally seen a job offer on helping to launch ICO and found out that now one ico is launched at once! And I'm talking about Ukraine! I think we'll soon see icos from countries of which most of Europeans and USA citizens have probably never heard.

Is this true that all the projects that have already successfully finished their respective ICOs will have to return all the funds to their investors? I can't believe it. It seems this will further complicate the matter. Regarding the next movement of other countries, I think they will unlikely follow the steps of china.

If anything, the process will be on and off like how the Chinese government was banning Btc then unbanning Btc.

I invite you to read this interesting point of view: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/bitcoin-ether-and-other-cryptocurrencies-may-be-seeing-the-beginning-of-the-end-2017-09-06
You will better understand that actually it will be difficult to keep your investments safe if states decide to change economics rules.

I think we must be careful : China has decided to regulate ICO's according to its interests, Russia wants to forbid cryptocurrencies (and then ICOs) for "people" and keep it for traders and "specialists" in economy. Thus, we have here two huge oriental economies (the most powerful actually, in the most authoritarian countries by the way) who are deciding to take ownership of the financial power of cryptocurrencies. I don't look it favourably...

I think this will never happen because the Chinese market is strongly influenced by ICO projects. If that happens then surely this is the biggest loss in the Cryptoucurrency market and Bitcoin prices are definitely will be affected

Thats a possibility but before they  unbanned it, they should formulate a framework or regulations or something like a guideline before an ICO is out to the public. Tis is to minimize scams ICO and to protect the investors also.

They did what they have to do, goverment duty is to protect their people and economy, china goverment just realised that cryptocurrency can be use to make a fruad act and can easy manipulated as meduim for illegal activities.So they make a necessary action to stop it.and they saw that ICO project is one of them, this act will serve as a wakeup call and other countries will probably follow china leads.

Canada is doing the exact opposite. We're allowing ICO's currently as a trial to better learn how the technology can be used.

https://www.coindesk.com/ico-ban-canadas-regulators-giving-one-token-sale-big-break/

First, thanks for posting this question.

I posted the same kind of question last week : why do governments don't make BTC illegal worldwide ? : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2133152.0

If you look at the answers people seems to believe that governments won't be able to stop BTC and crypto by making these illegal. Ok they will not be able to stop these but they have the ability, as china demonstrated with their ICO ban, that they can heavily influence the market in a way such that investors may go away from crypto world.

I do think that the same will happen in other countries. My concern is : how will this influence the market. Will their be a bearish trend for a few years before that a bullish trend starts as governments are able to regulate and tax the crypto world.

Now it is a really young and wild  technology that governements don't really understand. It is hard for theme to regulate on crypto because you have to take a lot of time to learn about it and the potential of tokens economic revolution.

So yes, could happen. Might be bad for your investments on a short term basis. But on the long term (5 years at least) no worries I would say...

who agrees ?

China has a lot of other problems right now. Their economy is being kept afloat by govt injecting cash into the economy and trying to stop the real estate bubble from popping all at once.

There are also major issues with corruption, land theft etc. and the general feeling is that ordinary citizens are fed up of being controlled and repressed.

Cryptos are one of the few ways the average Chinese person can currently make good returns on their money.

However, the last thing the govt needs is millions of people getting scammed by ICOs and turning on the govt for not doing more to prevent it.

Although it's highly likely that other countries will also take action against fraudulent ICOs this still won't kill the ICO market as the platforms and companies could move to friendlier jurisdictions and conduct operations from there.

I think that the Chinese government does not intend to completely ban the ICO, but tries to streamline its conduct and limit the possibility of abuses in it. Other countries can also follow the example of China. But this should not be feared. Sooner or later, however, such a settlement was necessary. It will only strengthen the shaky confidence in the crypto currency due to various kinds of abuse and fraud.

I think that it is the plan. Temporary banning -> framework of regulation -> unbanning and regulating ICO's. To me this is not a problem. However it arises the question of whether crypto world is totally government and censorship proof. Not really !

I do not think so. Middle east is the best place for technology to grow and I dont think that government will stop ICO in those places. Moreover, Most of the people here are extremely rich and they do love to invest their money in something can change the world. many scientists are here and they know how to make the world better. The only thing they do not have is money.

China has banned ICOs because a lot of people were getting scammed and the ICOs were raising funds and vanishing. Now they have regulated the ICOs and this will benefit everybody.

It will never happened. It's a blockchain innovation. You cannot stop progress. Imagine, you can put anything in a blockchain. It will revolutionize every aspect of the society.

I think this will not only stop in China, because usually a state government will learn from the way the government of another country. and after china prohibits ico, then most likely other countries will dare to take action to ban ico also in their country. but we hope I did not happen

This article from Forbes sums up the situation. It's not a bad news for ICOs or cryptocurrency but a good one.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2017/09/06/chinas-ico-ban-doesnt-mean-its-giving-up-on-crypto-currencies/

ICOs was not forbidden in China but it was regulated, Chinese government protect their citizens money to put into investment to some immoral and suspicous ICOs projects.Let's put these an example of a Paragoin Coin for cannabis community, do Chinese government allow their people help to promote cannabis thru Paragoin coin investment ? Chinese are sensitive about immorality, and being into cannabis is immoral to China. So if they think that unregulated and unsecured investment of ICOs put in danger to their people then it's time to intervene. As China's initiative to regulated ICOs for the benefit of their citizen , then China as a role model, other countries will follow.

I do not agree with you. I don't like the way a government can decide what is GOOD or BAD for its citizens. But if the reasons why an ICO is banned is debated publicly and well explained OK. But no ban without any explanation.

China is not exactly a 100% democratic country. In other words, the nature of the country is that all the people will have to comply with the regulations when the regulations are started. But most other countries are a little different. Regulations such as China can be regulated, but as regulations tighten, all investment ecosystems, including the ico, will escape to other countries, which can ultimately be disadvantageous to countries with severe regulations.
Rather, in contrast to China's regulations, other countries can take the opportunity to positively attract ico. Therefore, given the long-term growth of the ico ecosystem, this regulation will not necessarily look bad.

Banning ICO or funding would really be bad but talking about regulating then i wont oppose on such thing which ICO is already regulated but it would really be an another story unlike on those ico back in the past which is truly anonymous but in exchange the security of funds wont really be there.I dont have any idea if they would able to follow up chinas steps or would go into another way.