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Other => Politics & Society => Topic started by: WeedGrassDope on May 24, 2013, 10:12:06 PM



Title: Bitcoin and terrorists
Post by: WeedGrassDope on May 24, 2013, 10:12:06 PM
We should all expect a "terror attack" with the villains supposedly funded by BTC.  The feds and media would have a field day with that.

Wait for it...


Title: Re: Bitcoin and terrorists
Post by: grue on May 24, 2013, 10:14:25 PM
>implying that isn't already being done with fiat


Title: Re: Bitcoin and terrorists
Post by: Minor Miner on May 24, 2013, 10:22:24 PM
Terrorists seem to like to move money using Western Union.   Why have we not outlawed Western Union as it is clearly dangerous?   I understand that we are going to outlaw pressure cookers soon.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and terrorists
Post by: WeedGrassDope on May 24, 2013, 10:47:44 PM
>implying that isn't already being done with fiat

No implications intended.  Just a prediction.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and terrorists
Post by: WeedGrassDope on May 24, 2013, 10:50:14 PM
Terrorists seem to like to move money using Western Union.   Why have we not outlawed Western Union as it is clearly dangerous?   I understand that we are going to outlaw pressure cookers soon.

Western Union requires ID.  The biggest threat to TPTB from BTC is anonymity.  Eventually governments will start saying all anonymous currencies are terrorist tools and must be banned.  While they can't ban the currencies outright, they can make transfer from fiat almost impossible.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and terrorists
Post by: Elwar on May 24, 2013, 10:52:31 PM
Not any time soon.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and terrorists
Post by: Lethn on May 25, 2013, 10:58:09 AM
HSBC have already been caught red handed money laundering for terrorists and drug dealers so it's not going to make much difference regardless of how much they scream about it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and terrorists
Post by: freedomno1 on May 25, 2013, 11:33:31 AM
It just means us semi anons will need to be more vigilant to protect the community we still have taint after all


Title: Re: Bitcoin and terrorists
Post by: supernovax on April 22, 2014, 01:45:54 PM
 Anyone who isn't at least a bit concerned about Bitcoin funding terrorism is fooling themselves. I like Bitcoin, but I like being alive even more.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and terrorists
Post by: pandacoin on April 22, 2014, 03:51:59 PM
Who decides who is terrorist? Governments. Well, fuck all governments. I hope all organizations use Bitcoin for funding, even "terrorist" label ones.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and terrorists
Post by: jinjuro on April 22, 2014, 03:55:54 PM
It can be done with paypal, skrill, webmoney or perfect money. Those currencies is only a tool it can be use in good or bad.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and terrorists
Post by: Wilikon on April 22, 2014, 04:28:13 PM
Terrorists seem to like to move money using Western Union.   Why have we not outlawed Western Union as it is clearly dangerous?   I understand that we are going to outlaw pressure cookers soon.

Western Union requires ID.  The biggest threat to TPTB from BTC is anonymity.  Eventually governments will start saying all anonymous currencies are terrorist tools and must be banned.  While they can't ban the currencies outright, they can make transfer from fiat almost impossible.

Just another dude trying to buy cheap bitcoins again. Wait for it...

WU asking for ID means nothing. Ask any Nigerian Princes seeking help with their millions if only you could share your US bank account
http://www.419eater.com/

Now I would agree the banksters, a lot of them here right now on this forum will do everything in their power to put a brake on bitcoin. Most of the bitcoin believers understand this already.

My question to you is: are you on board no matter what? Buy $50 worth of bitcoins. Hold them, spend them. Be part of the bitcoin ecosystem. If not, be part of the FUD machine.



Title: Re: Bitcoin and terrorists
Post by: lira on April 23, 2014, 08:42:45 AM
I think main "terroristic attacks" now is with stealing money from our wallets and computers. Every hour criminal elements discover new and new variants to pocket our digital money. The newest point is that android wallets mine altcoins http://altcoinhunters.com/2014/04/android-malware-mines-altcoins/


Title: Re: Bitcoin and terrorists
Post by: Huangww on April 24, 2014, 08:20:10 AM
The terrorists may take advantage of BTC.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and terrorists
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 24, 2014, 08:22:58 AM
The terrorists may take advantage of BTC.

They do take advantage. Once I came across a Jihad funding site (off course accepts only donations in BTC), while browsing the dark net. (I am 99% sure that it was set up by the FBI).  ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin and terrorists
Post by: RoyalSands on April 24, 2014, 10:43:37 AM
Anyone who isn't at least a bit concerned about Bitcoin funding terrorism is fooling themselves. I like Bitcoin, but I like being alive even more.

You are MUCH more likely to die in a vehicular accident than terrorism.  So stop being scared of your own shadow.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and terrorists
Post by: ahmedjadoon on April 25, 2014, 03:00:14 PM
I don't think real terrorists got yet to the Bitcoins.Bitcoins are really famous but only at this forum.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and terrorists
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 25, 2014, 03:44:10 PM
Bitcoins are really famous but only at this forum.

lol... do you really think so? Just check the number of articles which had appeared in Forbes, during the past 2-3 days about Bitcoin. Bitcoin is famous outside this forum too boy. And the popularity is growing day by day.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and terrorists
Post by: minime on April 25, 2014, 03:48:03 PM
We should all expect a "terror attack" with the villains supposedly funded by BTC.  The feds and media would have a field day with that.

Wait for it...
dont they use dollars or euro?? just wondering... much more untraceable...


Title: Re: Bitcoin and terrorists
Post by: RixDollar on April 25, 2014, 03:52:42 PM
So what if they do?

They are already using fiat, PayPal, and other electronic forms of payment.

We just to make sure that the media and the anti-bitcoin agenda don't try to fool the general public into thinking that bitcoin is somehow connected to these elements, a la the Silk Road debacle.



Title: Re: Bitcoin and terrorists
Post by: freedomno1 on April 26, 2014, 10:15:11 AM
I guess terrorists diversify their assets but the same argument can be made of alt coins :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin and terrorists
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 26, 2014, 11:41:05 AM
I guess terrorists diversify their assets but the same argument can be made of alt coins :)

I don't think that even the terrorists are stupid enough to invest in shitcoins. Everyone with normal IQs know that the shitcoins will die out in the very near future, as they are just copycats of Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and terrorists
Post by: Balthazar on April 26, 2014, 11:45:25 AM
Wake up, all terrorists are using international banking already.  :D


Title: Re: Bitcoin and terrorists
Post by: freedomno1 on April 27, 2014, 08:29:16 AM
I guess terrorists diversify their assets but the same argument can be made of alt coins :)

I don't think that even the terrorists are stupid enough to invest in shitcoins. Everyone with normal IQs know that the shitcoins will die out in the very near future, as they are just copycats of Bitcoin.

True enough although by the same argument if they have shitcoins no one is really going to bother checking where the coins are moving while with Bitcoin it is easier to figure out because of all the attention on it when large amount start moving.
Want to be sleuth you need to use unconventional routes.
Hehe that said your probably right


Title: Re: Bitcoin and terrorists
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 27, 2014, 09:21:07 AM
True enough although by the same argument if they have shitcoins no one is really going to bother checking where the coins are moving while with Bitcoin it is easier to figure out because of all the attention on it when large amount start moving.

You can only use Bitcoins to move large amounts. You cannot use shitcoins to move large amounts. That is because the shitcoin market cap is too small to move large amounts.  ;D

Anyway, you will have to convert them in to Bitcoin before you cashes out.


Title: Re: Bitcoin and terrorists
Post by: theecoinomist on April 27, 2014, 04:22:59 PM
It's so complex, it has to happen


Title: Re: Bitcoin and terrorists
Post by: freedomno1 on May 01, 2014, 08:29:56 AM
True enough although by the same argument if they have shitcoins no one is really going to bother checking where the coins are moving while with Bitcoin it is easier to figure out because of all the attention on it when large amount start moving.

You can only use Bitcoins to move large amounts. You cannot use shitcoins to move large amounts. That is because the shitcoin market cap is too small to move large amounts.  ;D

Anyway, you will have to convert them in to Bitcoin before you cashes out.

True but when you convert them to Bitcoin from Shitcoins the trail becomes a lot more complicated than if it was just Bitcoins by themselves since to my knowledge their is no blockexplorer to follow on most of them.
Example
Buy 100,000 Sexcoins using tainted BTC on an exchange
Move Sexcoins somewhere else
Then buy Another Coin like NMC on a second exchange
Move to the third exchange and convert back to BTC
Then cash out


Title: Re: Bitcoin and terrorists
Post by: SunSeeder on May 02, 2014, 07:57:00 AM
It's foolish! If terrorists like BicMacs let's close all McDonaldses to not provide em food. If they read Koran like millions and millions people all over the world, let's ban it. If they have sex doggystyle let's do it only in classic pose. Where's the logic?


Title: Re: Bitcoin and terrorists
Post by: E-valuta.se on May 02, 2014, 10:32:47 AM
Yeah it will definately come. By now most people think bitcoin is a drug-coin. The step to a terror-coin is not so big ;)