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I have 2 pre-orders with order number 12xx.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-60GH-s-120GH-s-Bitcoin-ASIC-SC-Single-Butterfly-Labs-Order-1208-July-15-/161041222276?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item257ece0a84

The reason I am selling them so high is because they should make ~$10,000 the first month.

http://www.alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator

Why are my pre-orders so valuable?

1. I am in the first 1200 orders
2. 120Gh/s total
3. July 15th Pre-Order date

As many of you know, at this point, it is now how many GH/s you pre-ordered, but how early you pre-ordered. A mini-rig ordered 1 week ago might as well be 2 SC singles compared to a mini-rig pre-ordered in July.

Proof:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-A_NlkGvbM

Video was made in October. I state that I have 2 pre-orders for ASIC SC Singles.

And this follows all your threads abusing BFL and how you think they'll never ship and you want a refund?

Ok.

When did I say I thought they would never ship? I was just expressing my frustration with the delays, which is understandable, they have ~$2,600 of mine as well as a lot of potential profitability, who wouldn't be mad?

Abusing BFL? Really? We are coming in June 2013, 1 year after I have pre-ordered. I am 20 years old, that's 1/20th of my life time. Yeah, "Abusing BFL". Look at their Customer Service track record. Get real man.

I never said I wanted a refund. I just wanted what I paid for.

They seem to be making real progress lately.

Don't put words in my mouth.

New Ebay Listing:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/161033444388

Okay lets put it this way. You're asking $15,000 more than the equivalent in blades which 1) exist, 2) are delivered globally in 2-5 days 3) exist.

well, people pay 10%-30% more than retail cost for used gpus on here all the time, who knows

this post makes me laugh

Reading the Uploader Comments from your Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-A_NlkGvbM


3 Weeks ago you posted that you have already sold your pre-orders...Were you lying then or are you scamming now?

Price went up by $15,000 on these while I slept   :-\

Gouging for $60K wasn't enough, eh?

The guy backed out. He couldn't make up his mind. I am not a scammer. I run Skidhacker.com, I have sold hundreds of items and provided services to hundreds of people using PayPal for over 2 years.

Skidhacker.com

Run a Whois on me, I don't mind. It's not in my heart to scam. I've been scammed of more than 1k$ by someone I once called my friend.

I am not a scammer, just a poor college student XD.

P.S. My site is down ATM, running some stress tests.

Also, I don't understand what the big problem is about. I am just seeing if anyone will take the offer. If someone does, that I'm happy, they knowingly want the item and it's a completed transaction.

You guys say "Price Gouging" like if I'm Gouging water, gasoline, or food during a natural disaster. Just so we're all on the same page:

 You do not have to purchase my pre-orders, if you don't like the price, move along.

You guys act if I'm currently stealing money from your pockets.

You're right actually, we're just messing about.  Good luck with sale.

The 60Gh/s version doesn't exist anymore.

It doesn't now but BFL stated they will honour orders as placed and will deliver hashrate ordered. Not sure how do they plan on doing that as that would mean throwing in 2 free Jalapeños with every 50 GH/s Single :)

I will give you 50BTC for both.

Deal? :)

Thanks but no thanks.

Price lowered to $50,000

$50,000 on Ebay.

Your at more than double the going rate.. good look; doesn't appear you want to sell them.

.)) 65k$ for pre-order from BFL, when Blades are available, ASIC chips from Avalon ordered from many groups and new companies (kncminer, terrahash, bitaxe) are working on it?.)

omg.

60k? LOL!  You really are a greedy little one aren't ya?  Reminds me of when you were price gouging on 5870's a year ago.  Good luck.

hh, 15k $ discounted on ebay and 10k $ here.) will check this next week, maybe the price will come reasonable.)

Can you guys please stop calling it price gouging?

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/price+gouging

It is a free market, you do not "need" to buy from me, you can go with Avalon, more GPU's, or other Asic alternatives, or you have the option to not purchase anything at all. Like I said before, it is not like I am hoarding water, gas, and food during a natural disaster and making some money off of what people need. It is not price gouging. Know what the hell words mean before you post.

I sold those 5870's for a fair price, considering they were an open heatsink/fan design by XFX. They got low temps at high clocks. That was back when 5870's costed ~$200-$250.

The craziest part is, its likely there is someone dumb enough online to pay this price... Actually go talk to a new member "buyer" he apparently has "cash in hand for ASIC", yet he deletes everyone who tries to post in his duplicate threads to help him... He might just be the buyer you so desire  ;D

& if BFL doesn't deliver, will you give the money back to your pre-order buyer?  Who is more the scammer: the scammer or the scammer who follows him?

+1

so im figuring at 10k decrease per day in about 5 days it will be around 1 or 2k since you wont give it away for free. So when its that low feel free to pm me and ill buy it right away

My June 23/24 SC orders are 18xx, and if I remember right, the first orders started in 15xx or 16xx. So WTF to 12xx July orders...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=89685.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=89685.0)

Is there anyway to prove that a BFL ASIC order number < 1600 is even possible?  A BitPay link would work.  Here's the folks you'd have to beat....

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=89685.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=89685.0)

An ASICMiner blade is 50BTC for ~10-12GH/s. That would be 8-10 blades to equal the same 120GH/s, and these are a hell of a lot easier to set up.

If you had these in-hand, I'm sure someone would buy them for $50k.

My pre-orders are coming from a minirig upgrade. We kept the order number, the date is all that matters I guess. I am just going to keep the pre-orders. I am not or will ever be a scammer.

Josh

+1

Or just get a refund from them and hold the btc, that's what I did back in Jan - best decision I made with bitcoin.  Though I wish I had bought ASICMINER shares when Friedcat first posted the offer... 

That's the stupidest thing in this entire thread. Why would he get a refund for ~20BTC when he could get his units and mine those same BTC in less than a week. After that, it's pure profit.

Sure, if indeed they are shipping, and if indeed ASICMINER doesn't ramp up to 270TH or whatever they are planning in the next couple months to keep up.  I've stopped following the asic pre-order drama after waiting for 6months and several delays (my July pre-order was to ship in Oct/Nov when I placed it).   My understanding is only ASICMINER is shipping atm?

 

Bump. Testing the waters again. Before anyone says that no one would buy my pre-orders:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-x-60-GH-s-Bitcoin-Miner-BitForce-Single-SC-ASIC-Butterfly-Labs-Avalon-/230987785436?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item35c7f1e4dc

35k for one, and my purchase date is earlier.

If you are not interested, please move along.

40BTC for both is my offer.  However I want to see proof that you have an order.  So far I don't think any has been provided?  Your proof is a video about you watercooling a PC.. don't think that counts.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/johndow1968/m.html

10 of them for $76,000
thats $7600ea.  I think you need to rethink your pricing ;)

just fyi i just bought a supposely 64 ghash unit from BFL and it was only 63 BTC or about 6.5k at the time I paid

March 2013 Pre-Order date? Nice.. I would imagine that you know it's not the total Ghash, it's how much you have in relation to the whole bitcoin network. You might get those months from now when the difficulty is way up. I'm practically first in line when SCs ship out.

Also, I have a contract with Wogaut who is upgrading from a mini-rig. He didn't have the funds to upgrade, so some of us from the Asic.COOP group bought from him and I purchased two SC upgrades from him:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=91278.msg1005051#msg1005051

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=88008.msg1004138#msg1004138

why would you link me to 2 worthless threads?  One simply says "I PM'd you" and the other says "I am saving up to buy one"

You still have yet to show proof you even have an order.. lol..
Are you scamming?  Or do you actually have proof of an order?

The more you speak without giving a single proof, the less you become bids.

Scam? It's not right to scam. That's a fact. You've been here for like 3 months. Did you get into Bitcoins through main-stream media like all of the others that registered in April?

Actually order numbers started in the 1600 range... so something isn't right here. I for one believe you do in-fact have orders... but think with your penchant for little white lies you've probably 'forgot' a zero off the end of it...

Either way - It's pretty hilarious to see you attempting to make such a silly amount of profit off a pre-order.

It is coming from a Mini-rig upgrade, using the same order number.

Its interesting how you turn the subject around and avoid the question.  I have yet to see a shred of proof that you do indeed actually have an order.  What does it matter when I joined this website?  How do you know I haven't been lurking in the shadows for all that time.  Can I afford to buy your silly asking price with BTC.. Yes I can.  Do I want to?  HELL NO!  Why?  Because its asinine!!!

If your next response is anything other then PROOF that you have an order from them I am letting that be a HUGE WARNING to anyone interested in dealing with you.