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Title: Core coin wealth moving to Bitcoin Cash
Post by: kwukduck on September 07, 2017, 09:15:01 AM
As predicted a lot of mining power and money is moving out of Core coin into Bitcoin Cash.
Even altcoins are losing value to Bitcoin Cash now.
Here we see the future of Crypto expanding, as Satoshi envisioned.


Title: Re: Core coin wealth moving to Bitcoin Cash
Post by: somac. on September 07, 2017, 09:39:33 AM
I don't get it kwuckduck, you have been bearish on bitcoin since about 2010, and segwit is only a new development. Being that Bitcoin Cash is just Bitcoin without segwit (plus a larger blocksize), why are you so bullish about Bitcoin Cash? You were never bullish about Bitcoin when it was essentially the same as Bitcoin Cash.

Of course, anyone who is not a newbie knows the answer to this question, which is, that you are probably the biggest loser in bitcoin history, and through sheer stupidity missed out on being a multi-millionaire. But, seriously though, what are you going to do if Bitcoin Cash destroys Bitcoin and becomes the dominate high value coin? Which shitcoin are you going to shill for then and what bearish arguments do you have planned for Bitcoin Cash?

On another note, since you are such a loser and don't own any Bitcoin or Bitcoin Cash, and will therefore miss out on becoming a multi-millionaire for a second time, I'm honestly worried for you. What are you going to do then? Serious question. I am concerned that you would be even more depressed and unliked than now.


Title: Re: Core coin wealth moving to Bitcoin Cash
Post by: talkbitcoin on September 07, 2017, 09:44:37 AM
thanks a lot kwukduck, i was actually wondering when the recent dip is going to end and i have to admit i was a little worried that this dip could last a little longer than usual. but with your comment i now know that the dip is finally over and we are getting ready for the rise.

if your post history is any indication we will see $5000 pretty soon.


Title: Re: Core coin wealth moving to Bitcoin Cash
Post by: HeRetiK on September 07, 2017, 11:11:12 AM
Alright then, very bullish. I guess it's time to lock some profits in and sell some BCH now. Thank you for your service, kwuk!


Title: Re: Core coin wealth moving to Bitcoin Cash
Post by: n0ne on September 07, 2017, 11:17:15 AM
Everytime kwukduck comes with a realistic prediction about the bitcoin as well the reasons behind the fluctuations happening with time. This time I don't find this to be an accurate prediction, because the price keeps on growing mutually with bitcoin as well bitcoin cash. Even days back when price decline happened, each and every coin including bitcoin cash was dropping.


Title: Re: Core coin wealth moving to Bitcoin Cash
Post by: kwukduck on September 07, 2017, 11:42:30 AM
I don't get it kwuckduck, you have been bearish on bitcoin since about 2010, and segwit is only a new development. Being that Bitcoin Cash is just Bitcoin without segwit (plus a larger blocksize), why are you so bullish about Bitcoin Cash? You were never bullish about Bitcoin when it was essentially the same as Bitcoin Cash.

Of course, anyone who is not a newbie knows the answer to this question, which is, that you are probably the biggest loser in bitcoin history, and through sheer stupidity missed out on being a multi-millionaire. But, seriously though, what are you going to do if Bitcoin Cash destroys Bitcoin and becomes the dominate high value coin? Which shitcoin are you going to shill for then and what bearish arguments do you have planned for Bitcoin Cash?

On another note, since you are such a loser and don't own any Bitcoin or Bitcoin Cash, and will therefore miss out on becoming a multi-millionaire for a second time, I'm honestly worried for you. What are you going to do then? Serious question. I am concerned that you would be even more depressed and unliked than now.

I've been pointing out critical flaws in Core coin for many years. I was a fan of Satoshis vision and of Bitcoins promises.
What i'm not a fan of and dispise is the development not addressing these issues for all these years and being taken over by Blockstream which in turn is controlled by big banksters. Satoshis vision was lost with that over the years.
Bitcoin Cash is the first revolution we see going back to his vision as most of us planned and wanted from the beginning.


Title: Re: Core coin wealth moving to Bitcoin Cash
Post by: somac. on September 07, 2017, 11:59:43 AM
I've been pointing out critical flaws in Core coin for many years. I was a fan of Satoshis vision and of Bitcoins promises.
What i'm not a fan of and dispise is the development not addressing these issues for all these years and being taken over by Blockstream which in turn is controlled by big banksters. Satoshis vision was lost with that over the years.
Bitcoin Cash is the first revolution we see going back to his vision as most of us planned and wanted from the beginning.

haha, bullshit. None of your posts from years back even remotely supported what Bitcoin Cash has done, you're a prema-bear man. In other words, a complete loser.

Fuck. I love having you around man, gives me something to laugh at everytime you post. In fact, I use you as an example to point out to newcomers the retarded illogical arguments that detractors of bitcoin come up with. After that, they see through every FUD post and argument without fail. And man, the laughter that comes from them when I show them how long you have been in the crypto scene and have made no money from it. Lasts for ages, I even start to think that they'll need plastic surgery to remove the smile from their face.


Title: Re: Core coin wealth moving to Bitcoin Cash
Post by: mobnepal on September 07, 2017, 02:22:08 PM
As predicted a lot of mining power and money is moving out of Core coin into Bitcoin Cash.
Even altcoins are losing value to Bitcoin Cash now.
Here we see the future of Crypto expanding, as Satoshi envisioned.
Just another small bump on bitcoin cash price as a recovery from recent dump after Chinese ICO fud, nothing more than that. Almost all alts and bitcoin is in green right now and I am expecting another round of correction for all alts while bitcoin will head up to $5k+.


Title: Re: Core coin wealth moving to Bitcoin Cash
Post by: ekoice on September 07, 2017, 04:08:31 PM
Once again,mr.kwukduck comes with a negative news against bitcoin.I don't understand what enmity he has with bitcoin.Every time,he explains the situation in a very different angle,probably the wrong angle.The happenings are just due to ICOs getting banned by PBOC and it was a temporary situation.Soon,bitcoin has recovered from downfall and its now almost $4655.just wait until november when segwit 2x will be activated and even those miners who support BCH too support segwit 2x.So,for sure BCH is going to die after that time.Bitcoin only would exist unbeatable.


Title: Re: Core coin wealth moving to Bitcoin Cash
Post by: SONG GEET on September 07, 2017, 07:21:57 PM
Isn't bitcoin cash another altcoin or bitcoin clone LOL

Money always moves between bitcoin and altcoin not only to bitcoin cash but also to hundreds of altcoins.
Bitcoincash will never beat bitcoin...


Title: Re: Core coin wealth moving to Bitcoin Cash
Post by: Xavofat on September 07, 2017, 08:15:41 PM
Your previous threads on this topic in order:

1.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2046097.msg20384299#msg20384299 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2046097.msg20384299#msg20384299)

2.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2067579.msg20640599#msg20640599 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2067579.msg20640599#msg20640599)

3.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2073456.msg20712543#msg20712543 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2073456.msg20712543#msg20712543)

4.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2107240.msg21059863#msg21059863 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2107240.msg21059863#msg21059863)

This is a duplicate thread.  Please lock or delete it.
As predicted a lot of mining power[...]is moving out of Core coin into Bitcoin Cash.


Quote from: cash.coin.dance
The Bitcoin Cash blockchain is currently operating at 13% of the original chain's difficulty.


Title: Re: Core coin wealth moving to Bitcoin Cash
Post by: Idrisu on September 07, 2017, 08:46:47 PM
This news will make me hold my bitcoin core as I see that it keeps on increasing in value. If people are moving there wealth and mining tools from bitcoin core to bitcoin Cash and the core keep growing the way we are seeing it today it then mean bitcoin core in the long run will represent the idea of satoshi as something that will be valuable. Bitcoin Cash on the other hand has been trap between $500 and $600 and the only time will see serious changes is when is been pumped.


Title: Re: Core coin wealth moving to Bitcoin Cash
Post by: crazylikeafox on September 07, 2017, 09:35:18 PM
This news will make me hold my bitcoin core as I see that it keeps on increasing in value. If people are moving there wealth and mining tools from bitcoin core to bitcoin Cash and the core keep growing the way we are seeing it today it then mean bitcoin core in the long run will represent the idea of satoshi as something that will be valuable. Bitcoin Cash on the other hand has been trap between $500 and $600 and the only time will see serious changes is when is been pumped.

This idiot believes that people would transfer to a buggy and manipulated altcoin and he don't realize that when miners transfers to BCC its difficulty will rise.


Title: Re: Core coin wealth moving to Bitcoin Cash
Post by: vroom on September 08, 2017, 06:38:04 AM
I'm a new bitcoin user/investor (after BTC/BCH fork) and this "war" between BTC and BCH makes me sick. There are some valid arguments on both sides. BTC seems a bit like a cult to me, and BCH like a criminal organization. Overall I trust bitcoin because it did a good job in the last years and it's already more mainstream then this new criminal coin nobody knows of.


Title: Re: Core coin wealth moving to Bitcoin Cash
Post by: BTCLovingDude on September 08, 2017, 10:12:20 AM
As predicted a lot of mining power and money is moving out of Core coin into Bitcoin Cash.
Even altcoins are losing value to Bitcoin Cash now.
Here we see the future of Crypto expanding, as Satoshi envisioned.

i know many are wishing for this to happen but it was never a predicted thing to happen. any speculator knows very well that bitcoin cash is just a temporary altcoin for pump an dumps with no real future. like most altcoins it will stay around for a while get pumped using certain news and then gets its inevitable dump.

so far nothing about mining and hashrate of bitcoin has changed. it has even increased more than before and the price is obviously on the rise and each month it breaks new ATH.


Title: Re: Core coin wealth moving to Bitcoin Cash
Post by: alyssa85 on September 08, 2017, 10:33:17 AM
This news will make me hold my bitcoin core as I see that it keeps on increasing in value. If people are moving there wealth and mining tools from bitcoin core to bitcoin Cash and the core keep growing the way we are seeing it today it then mean bitcoin core in the long run will represent the idea of satoshi as something that will be valuable. Bitcoin Cash on the other hand has been trap between $500 and $600 and the only time will see serious changes is when is been pumped.

This idiot believes that people would transfer to a buggy and manipulated altcoin and he don't realize that when miners transfers to BCC its difficulty will rise.

I think the difficulty is due to retarget on 11th September or thereabouts, and it will drop.

Bitcoincash is a nice coin, it can eat up mempool backlogs very quickly. There is no evidence that many people are using segwit and it will likely not improve bitcoin's fee problems.


Title: Re: Core coin wealth moving to Bitcoin Cash
Post by: vroom on September 08, 2017, 10:41:49 AM
There is no evidence that many people are using segwit and it will likely not improve bitcoin's fee problems.

more and more services are enabling segwit. Exchanges like bitstamp, wallets like trezor, ledger and many more.

bitcoin fees are rapidly decreasind since segwit activation: https://coinjournal.net/bitcoin-fees-decreasing-segwit/

so what are you talking about?


Title: Re: Core coin wealth moving to Bitcoin Cash
Post by: kwukduck on September 08, 2017, 11:06:37 AM
There is no evidence that many people are using segwit and it will likely not improve bitcoin's fee problems.

more and more services are enabling segwit. Exchanges like bitstamp, wallets like trezor, ledger and many more.

bitcoin fees are rapidly decreasind since segwit activation: https://coinjournal.net/bitcoin-fees-decreasing-segwit/

so what are you talking about?


Blocks are still full and the backlog is huge!


Title: Re: Core coin wealth moving to Bitcoin Cash
Post by: erre on September 08, 2017, 11:16:39 AM
There is no evidence that many people are using segwit and it will likely not improve bitcoin's fee problems.

more and more services are enabling segwit. Exchanges like bitstamp, wallets like trezor, ledger and many more.

bitcoin fees are rapidly decreasind since segwit activation: https://coinjournal.net/bitcoin-fees-decreasing-segwit/

so what are you talking about?


Blocks are still full and the backlog is huge!

Not true. In the last weeks, 5 sat/b was enough to get confirmed in a than few hours. You are not spamming enough.

https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#7d


Title: Re: Core coin wealth moving to Bitcoin Cash
Post by: vroom on September 08, 2017, 11:18:23 AM
Blocks are still full and the backlog is huge!

mempool is back to normal: https://blockchain.info/charts/mempool-size
7000 unconfirmed transactions: https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions

increasing the blocksize is not the correct way to solve the scaling issue. if we want to compete (same numbers of transactions) with a credit card company, we need a blocksize of about 555mb, 80gb per day. this is the way where bitcoin cash is heading.


Title: Re: Core coin wealth moving to Bitcoin Cash
Post by: thejaytiesto on September 08, 2017, 11:24:33 AM
I don't get it kwuckduck, you have been bearish on bitcoin since about 2010, and segwit is only a new development. Being that Bitcoin Cash is just Bitcoin without segwit (plus a larger blocksize), why are you so bullish about Bitcoin Cash? You were never bullish about Bitcoin when it was essentially the same as Bitcoin Cash.

Of course, anyone who is not a newbie knows the answer to this question, which is, that you are probably the biggest loser in bitcoin history, and through sheer stupidity missed out on being a multi-millionaire. But, seriously though, what are you going to do if Bitcoin Cash destroys Bitcoin and becomes the dominate high value coin? Which shitcoin are you going to shill for then and what bearish arguments do you have planned for Bitcoin Cash?

On another note, since you are such a loser and don't own any Bitcoin or Bitcoin Cash, and will therefore miss out on becoming a multi-millionaire for a second time, I'm honestly worried for you. What are you going to do then? Serious question. I am concerned that you would be even more depressed and unliked than now.

kwukduck is a perfect indicator of the opposite he is saying becoming true. Bitcoin Trash is collapsing and these propping this shitcoin are losing tons of money trying to keep the farce running.

Government-issued hashrate is mining it at a loss, they will run out of money eventually (even if they can print if infinitely, they will stop it once they realize it is futile)

Bitcoin hashrate just hit all time highs recently which proves Bitcoin Trash is only good for pump and dumping.


Title: Re: Core coin wealth moving to Bitcoin Cash
Post by: erre on September 08, 2017, 11:53:57 AM
Blocks are still full and the backlog is huge!

mempool is back to normal: https://blockchain.info/charts/mempool-size
7000 unconfirmed transactions: https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions

increasing the blocksize is not the correct way to solve the scaling issue. if we want to compete (same numbers of transactions) with a credit card company, we need a blocksize of about 555mb, 80gb per day. this is the way where bitcoin cash is heading.

As now, it's heading towards empty blocks


Title: Re: Core coin wealth moving to Bitcoin Cash
Post by: jekjekman on September 08, 2017, 04:20:27 PM
I don't see the point in what reason do miners want to transfer in mining the original bitcoin to bitcoin cash maybe it more profitable at the moment but it will not boom as it is only a copy cat and trying to be great, people just playing with the market with bitcoin cash and that is why it has a value as of the moment.


Title: Re: Core coin wealth moving to Bitcoin Cash
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on September 08, 2017, 06:58:50 PM
Blocks are still full and the backlog is huge!

mempool is back to normal: https://blockchain.info/charts/mempool-size
7000 unconfirmed transactions: https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions

increasing the blocksize is not the correct way to solve the scaling issue. if we want to compete (same numbers of transactions) with a credit card company, we need a blocksize of about 555mb, 80gb per day. this is the way where bitcoin cash is heading.

Blocksize of 0.5 GB? That may not be sustainable. 80 GB per day would make mining impossible for small and medium sized players. We need to see how to reduce the size of the transactions, and how to accommodate more transactions in each block.


Title: Re: Core coin wealth moving to Bitcoin Cash
Post by: hatshepsut93 on September 08, 2017, 07:06:11 PM
Blocks are still full and the backlog is huge!

mempool is back to normal: https://blockchain.info/charts/mempool-size
7000 unconfirmed transactions: https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions

increasing the blocksize is not the correct way to solve the scaling issue. if we want to compete (same numbers of transactions) with a credit card company, we need a blocksize of about 555mb, 80gb per day. this is the way where bitcoin cash is heading.

Storage space isn't the biggest factor that holds back block size increase, right now it's the latency - the bigger the block is, the longer it will take to propagate, because of longer validation time by each node and longer sending time. This would mean that conflicting chains would start appearing more often and double spending attacks would become easier, so we would have to require more confirmations before we can start trusting incoming transactions.


Title: Re: Core coin wealth moving to Bitcoin Cash
Post by: No.14 on September 08, 2017, 07:20:31 PM
As predicted a lot of mining power and money is moving out of Core coin into Bitcoin Cash.
Even altcoins are losing value to Bitcoin Cash now.
Here we see the future of Crypto expanding, as Satoshi envisioned.

For me, cash does not carry too much effect, in other words, it is a coin with no meaningful existence when the core is still working very well.


Title: Re: Core coin wealth moving to Bitcoin Cash
Post by: digaran on September 09, 2017, 12:07:49 AM
Satoshi also envisioned having a gang bang party with an 18 years old girl preferably in her birth day but it never happened, well perhaps it happened behind emperor's Wu closed doors a few times already but we didn't even get to smell their panties. hard lol.
If Satoshi wanted to have anything with Bitcoin he should've kept envisioning all these years. did he envisioned for every Bitcoin holder to double spend their entire balances as well or that part was all you greedy fackers?