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I don't like scam ICO's  And this powerledger ico is deff. one of the most noob and scammiest ico's.

Read why - here are the facts of users on slack, telegram and from their whitepaper&webpage.

DON'T INVEST in POWERLEDGER ICO you will loose all your ETH  :o


1. Show us working blockchain in Australia and New Zeland, show nodes which are running; all normal blockchain have block and some block explorer people can see some transactions, look at bitcoin, ethereum, any xcoin even shitcoin have it own ledger

2. You have nothing but fake media news, some huge expert but no blockchaion behind

3. Where is your smart contract, code on githab? who wrote it, who did revisions, where is the code?

4. If you are not able to write even one smart contract for token distribution, how can you be an expert for blockchain?


5. People asked you many questions and you here and in telegram or other channels and you just ban people who ask normal questions; you use ban protection against clarifying the project and you ability!!

6. Let me know 10 users who are using your blockchain in Australia!!! Australian utility Synergy does not know about anybody is using blockchain in energy, how does it happened?

7. Give us public official from the top Synergy company who can confirm you have provide a blockchain and Synergy is using it, give me official confirmation from Synergy!!!

8. Until you not giving us a blockchain community real prove about your technical abilities (showing at least your verified smart contract, and revision report as well!!!), showing us your blockchain explorer to show your working blockchain, I declare you as a FIRST AUSTRALIAN BLOCKCHAIN SCAMER!!!!

9. China ban ICO can I invest to your token anyway?

China will check past ICOs by content. So what represent your token, an investment, security or commodity? I cannot find out from your documents the nature of your token? Is this ICO legal, USA, Canada, China, Hong Kong, Singapore, Brasilia, Russia, Australia declared ICOs as scam and illegal, why do you not stopping it and return money to your investors, are you just want to take money from people and disappear to some hot islands?

10. Nobody know about you in Australia, what we can find is your fake marketing news anywhere!!! Your company is one year old and no report are shown anywhere, please report here your sheets and reports that we see your credibility.


11. You collected 8 million from 2 big investors, I am out of business, you will not get me, you ken play with this two investors if you really have them, you have enough and you do not need more money and people to robbery!!!!

12. Let's explain why you need 30 million USD to develop utility energy platform, where you have NO UTILITY, no international business, not even develop east coast of Australia not West own Perth, no Europe, Asia, Middle East ot US utility contract, partner, show me agreement for one on each continent!!!

13. How much taxes is going to be taken from invested funds??? Australia has 25% profit tax and how are you manage it?

14. If you move all fund to some offshore, let us know where are you going to put our money and who will be responsible for it? If it stay in Australia, government can take 25 and up to 50%!!!
ICO is illegal in australia and Australian government is against all crypto currencies and ICOs are not welcomed, people you will lose all money in this business.
This guys already robbery some investors from Australia and almost go to default!! Show your financial sheets and prove your history of operations for last 5 years!!!

15. There is no other people than from your company, no international team, no experts, no developers, no international reputation guys from energy, IT or legal, no experts, no knowledge on energy business, no trading energy experts, no blockchain experts

16. They are self declared experts and what they have got is one movie star who they paid with your money and one whale who has got 50% discount and he will triple his money because he controls all funds

17. Now they need community to bring real money in it to make robbery effective, do not trap on it!!!!!

DON'T INVEST in Powerledger ICO  - you will loose all your money - they will not deliver anything!!!

http://shrani.si/f/3M/d1/3ZJdr9Y2/prenos.jpg

Tanks for the info, but is the correct info? Because I use the signature campaign.

damn i have a plan to invest 50 eth from china

bastards scammers thanks for all info - u saved my 50 eth

someone must report them to australian goverment - they will take all the money from all over the world and deliver nothing.

masstahcoiner you did some comprehensive research

thank you for this info....such guys should be arrested and prosecuted....i was going to invest

damn thank you masstahcoiner for your research!  u save me my 50 eth

Australian utility Synergy does not know about anybody is using blockchain in energy .They are not able to write even one smart contract for token distribution, how can you be an expert for blockchain.

Until they not show blockchain and real prove about technical abilities (showing at least verified smart contract, and revision report as well), powerledger must show first  blockchain explorer and  working blockchain,before that I declare powerledger as a FIRST AUSTRALIAN BLOCKCHAIN SCAMER

this are scammers no one answer on any question!

so this is everything real

sad :(

i'm glad i didn't invest

did you send your questions / complain it their official ANN thread, or email them perhaps? If you received answers from them, kindly quote it here to support your allegations. By the way, I am impressed with your research.

I think you gathered a lot of information about Power Ledger but did they addressed to your questions. They need prove themselves they are legit in order to secure our funds but when I see the project seems to be very interesting. Please, when you have any new info please post it here OP.

i honestly think it would be a great idea to shove a few of these scammers in prison ! im sure it would lessen the scam ICO crowd !

The superior solution for trading ethernet coins. :D

Seriously masstahcoiner - what a story you are spinning!! LoL so all the press they have and trials and partners are all fake Really?, ive been doing research and (bought POWR tokens) they have been going for 2 years, that be a lot of faking haha, So let me get this straight 2 years ago they planned to do an ICO, made up the news stories and the trials and now you have worked it all out and are warning everyone, I think I smell a rat! I wonder what your motive is for writing this? From what i can see they have an amazing team with great reputations your analysis doesnt add up sorry. I also noticed that they were at the Richard Branson blockchain summit, so i guess that was fake too?!

Interesting to find Suncontract commenting here also!!. SC Quick to agree with you Mastercoiner! So lets see... Masstahcoiner joined bitcointalk in May about the same time SunContract started their ICO posting here and Suncontract follows up agreeing with their "comprehensive" NON-Researched Research lol! Very unprofessional from a community minded solar project.  I'm wondering why would Suncontract bother to come here to a new thread and post negatively about a random ICO on the other side of the world to where they are based -  more Questions! Maybe SC=MC??

As of now SunContract (which didnt even exist prior to its ICO in May) has watched its token price CRASH ever since PowerLedger launced its TGE. Perhaps P2P energy platform supporters have found a real P2P token to buy that actually stands a chance of being successful. (Esp now with its POWR-ful $20M to work with) Interesting Masstercoiner wouldn't you say?? Perhaps time for you to do some more of your "comprehensive research" on Suncontract this time... Actually I think i will start also now.

MaterCoiner can you please tell me where you are getting you "comprehensive research" from as you actually haven't stated any research just random rantings.

(Declaration- I have bought POWR in their pre-sale and am buying more in the main sale. And no SunContracts)

maybe this is the real reason -

https://imgur.com/a/2AJrQ

Nice try defacing Australia, what because we have dirt and kangaroos we can’t have blockchain tech? That’s just insulting, also the partnerships and organisations they have working with them are massive for Australia, if you where Aussie you’d know this!

Nobody from team didn't answer on any fact. GUYS - DON'T FALL INTO TRAP - POWERLEDGER IS A SCAM!

They still don't have gatehub source code, you don't have smart contract, you don't have ICO investment adress and public shown how much did you get btc and eth.. this is lame


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I don't like scam ICO's  And this powerledger ico is deff. one of the most noob and scammiest ico's.

Read why - here are the facts of users on slack, telegram and from their whitepaper&webpage.

DON'T INVEST in POWERLEDGER ICO you will loose all your ETH  Shocked


1. Show us working blockchain in Australia and New Zeland, show nodes which are running; all normal blockchain have block and some block explorer people can see some transactions, look at bitcoin, ethereum, any xcoin even shitcoin have it own ledger

2. You have nothing but fake media news, some huge expert but no blockchaion behind

3. Where is your smart contract, code on githab? who wrote it, who did revisions, where is the code?

4. If you are not able to write even one smart contract for token distribution, how can you be an expert for blockchain?


5. People asked you many questions and you here and in telegram or other channels and you just ban people who ask normal questions; you use ban protection against clarifying the project and you ability!!

6. Let me know 10 users who are using your blockchain in Australia!!! Australian utility Synergy does not know about anybody is using blockchain in energy, how does it happened?

7. Give us public official from the top Synergy company who can confirm you have provide a blockchain and Synergy is using it, give me official confirmation from Synergy!!!

8. Until you not giving us a [Suspicious link removed]munity real prove about your technical abilities (showing at least your verified smart contract, and revision report as well!!!), showing us your blockchain explorer to show your working blockchain, I declare you as a FIRST AUSTRALIAN BLOCKCHAIN SCAMER!!!!

9. China ban ICO can I invest to your token anyway?

China will check past ICOs by content. So what represent your token, an investment, security or commodity? I cannot find out from your documents the nature of your token? Is this ICO legal, USA, Canada, China, Hong Kong, Singapore, Brasilia, Russia, Australia declared ICOs as scam and illegal, why do you not stopping it and return money to your investors, are you just want to take money from people and disappear to some hot islands?

10. Nobody know about you in Australia, what we can find is your fake marketing news anywhere!!! Your company is one year old and no report are shown anywhere, please report here your sheets and reports that we see your credibility.


11. You collected 8 million from 2 big investors, I am out of business, you will not get me, you ken play with this two investors if you really have them, you have enough and you do not need more money and people to robbery!!!!

12. Let's explain why you need 30 million USD to develop utility energy platform, where you have NO UTILITY, no international business, not even develop east coast of Australia not West own Perth, no Europe, Asia, Middle East ot US utility contract, partner, show me agreement for one on each continent!!!

13. How much taxes is going to be taken from invested funds??? Australia has 25% profit tax and how are you manage it?

14. If you move all fund to some offshore, let us know where are you going to put our money and who will be responsible for it? If it stay in Australia, government can take 25 and up to 50%!!!
ICO is illegal in australia and Australian government is against all crypto currencies and ICOs are not welcomed, people you will lose all money in this business.
This guys already robbery some investors from Australia and almost go to default!! Show your financial sheets and prove your history of operations for last 5 years!!!

15. There is no other people than from your company, no international team, no experts, no developers, no international reputation guys from energy, IT or legal, no experts, no knowledge on energy business, no trading energy experts, no blockchain experts

16. They are self declared experts and what they have got is one movie star who they paid with your money and one whale who has got 50% discount and he will triple his money because he controls all funds

17. Now they need community to bring real money in it to make robbery effective, do not trap on it!!!!!

DON'T INVEST in Powerledger ICO  - you will loose all your money - they will not deliver anything!!!


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thank you - there is many scams in crypto

thanks for sharing so we didn't invest!

You haven’t even provided any evidence for any of your claims, I’d like to see the basis for your post

Exactly my point also., No evidence just big accusations by masstahcoiner who I suspect is SUNCONTRACT. one of the big claims above is that there is no erc20 smart contract, go to etherscan.io and search for POWR you will find it, I think if you get an easy one like this wrong, it says something about your 'comprehensive research' Is SunContract really threatened by other energy projects that it needs to agree with (or post) such negative and inaccurate statements about others. I just did a little research and found the most obvious point above is total rubbish, perhaps other can do some also.

Totally agree - this whole trolling thing is clearly coming from this guy and his fellow trolls.  https://coinmarketcap.com/assets/suncontract/  You don't have to be a genius to see the linkage between the timing of the rant against Power Ledger and the FAILED Suncontract ICO. A better use of masstahcoiner's time would be to work on his own business. Supporters of the Suncontract ICO gotta be feeling really fek'd off. Now there's a SCAM. I'm an Aussie who knows Power Ledger and masstahcoiner's shite is just that - shite.

“14. If you move all fund to some offshore, let us know where are you going to put our money and who will be responsible for it? If it stay in Australia, government can take 25 and up to 50%!!!
ICO is illegal in australia and Australian government is against all crypto currencies and ICOs are not welcomed, people you will lose all money in this business.
This guys already robbery some investors from Australia and almost go to default!! Show your financial sheets and prove your history of operations for last 5 years!!!”


Bs crypto isn’t illegal in Australia neither is ICO’s, you couldn’t even be bothered to do a google search to attempt to make your false allegetions rooted in truth.

Like other users have said, smells like the failed other energy ico annoyed that some guys from down under have been able to do better then them.


DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH, TRY AND VERIFY HIS CLAIMS (you can’t), MAKE YOUR OWN CHOICE.

Yeah this is really weird, why suncontract would come here and comment? I mean how do you even find this. If this is really SUNCONTRACT spreading crap about other projects you need to question their motives and mentality. Maybe why the price of SUNCONTRACTS looks like it is heading to ZERO real soon. Also makes me think what else they are getting up to. Where's the integrity? I was researching them but this has really spooked me!

Ill borrow yr pic thx roxbox
 
https://i.imgur.com/wNCUKjN.jpg

Maybe you gotta show the first part of the chart, that people can see that it just got pumped, what can happen to any coin with a small marketcap. Suncontract is definitely a good coin with alot of moving in the nearly future.

So what is with this coin now? Is this just a scam or what? I am also a SunContract holder but I am not here to hate, but to see what the competition (if it is real) is doing.

Skipping this as of now due to lack of clarity. Thanks !!

Seriously ???! this is real.. my friends has invest 50 until 100 eth for that. i will tell my friends about this. thank you for you research but what about that coin now. I speculate that the motive of this project is really harmful right.

This page has clearly been started by a competitor of Power Ledger.  Reprehensible  of them to hide out in chat rooms like this using aliases and certainly not a good image for a commercial business.  If it is that crowd at SUNCONTRACT as suggested by some folk here then I think you should sell their coin. Bad investment as these guys will never get a business going with this type of scummy (or scammy) behaviour.  Do your own research on Power Ledger and it Wont take you long to see their credentials.  For example, just yesterday a trial with one of Australia's biggest energy companies was announced. http://www.afr.com/news/originpower-ledger-trial-seeks-tariff-solution-20170921-gym1p1

The website says they are selling 140 million coins, but etherscan shows there is 1 billion, which could mean a 860 million premine, or am i wrong?

Link here https://etherscan.io/token/0x595832f8fc6bf59c85c527fec3740a1b7a361269

So many ICO scam right now. Because of those, it brings a bad name to other legit ICO.

Ye.  I looked at that too. Checkout the token paper.  https://tge.powerledger.io/media/Power-Ledger-TGE-Token-Paper.pdf  Looks like they have tokens escrowed for future developments of platform and for encouraging energy companies and utilities to use platform. Think that creates demand for POWR in the future and also makes sure platform can grown.  With the escrow it looks ok.

I found this from Suncontract on their thread after someone brought up Power Ledger:

We already stated why we have negative opinion about them. We went into business cooperation with them and paid for their service. We were promised they will give us working solution and assured us they have working blockchain solution. Final outcome of this "business cooperation" was they took money from us, they did not provide any solution (we actually think that money we paid them was used for marketing purposes like fancy web design etc.) and it looks like they are also lying to investors they have blockchain. And we signed contract with penalties etc. so it was ordinary deal with two companies by international law. Now imagine what can they do in crypto sphere where there is no "law".

I'm sure there's 2 sides to the story, but still should be a reminder not to get caught up in hype, fancy web designs and paid YouTube shills when investing in ICOs. Research carefully.

Agree about often 2 sides but I  can tell you that Power Ledger's block chain is alive and well so this post from suncontract has me very suspicious.   I live in Fremantle near where the Powerledger platform is deployed.  Seen it first hand.  With so many projects with reputable counterparties they can't just be pretending they have something.  saw this yesterday. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx19xO0PQ_s&feature=youtu.be  Agree tabloids could be dodgy too but this press is mainstream - mainstream financial press don't make this stuff up.   Also - if they were dodgy would they have taken  this ICO offshore.  Since they have chosen to run it under Australian law I am absolutely believing them. To me there are just too many holes in Suncontract's comments. 

Hey, just thought of something.  Why would a blockchain  energy company like Suncobtract need to (or want to) sign a deal with a competitor like Power Ledger anyway  :-\.  Really fishy.   I think I will leave this page too.  Any folks desperate enough to set up this page aren't folks I'm going to invest with - going to the real Power Ledger page.

Yes Agree makes sense This thread has been started by SUNCONTRACT. Why do they feel threatened by a competitor that has been around way longer than them. Suncontract didnt even exist before their ICO. They are just a whitepaper. and from what i have read, doest even seem like their idea can work. pie in the sky!!

I registered on their bounty program. Hope this is going to be clarified.

Thanks !

calm down, I think this is just an issue, I get word from some of my friends that the project ledger power would not be a scam, according to my friend Dr.Jemma will not scam, and he is very sure of it. there will be an answer in the next two weeks, it's just a matter of time  ;D ;D

Lol wheres the scam now? :) Powerledger is far from a scam. listed on exchanges already and doing real business in the real world. hahaha ...you missed out :)

Powerledger  is showing it's  power,  can any one tell me what is the total number of  powr tokens?  hope it is not so huge.

Why there are so huge pump at Etherdelta, is it some good new for POWR to get 2x at some few hours? Already sold mine for 1,5x from ICO price, but now think, may be wait for some dump and get them back?

pirce is very good  these 2 days , although  there are not so many  investors talking  here ,  but it do start a good  market effect.

Project related introduction to write a very detailed, it should be a more reliable project, the team attitude is very sincere, will continue to follow up

I'm disappointed about POWR, why it go high in such hard time? I was invested some eth at preICO and few days ago sell all my POWR with some ++ and now it goes higher. It's look like pump from the team. Is it possible?

Wow lucky you guys listened to massstahcoiners wonderful review on POWR.....you would be up 2x already....can you imagine that...defiantly dodged a bullet there! Cant believe the 7300+ people in their telegram community don't know the team are scammers. Cant believe the 3 exchanges that have already listed them and the one in the pipe-line also don't know they are scammers. Cant believe members of the Branson family who have invested don't realise they are scammers. Cant believe the people of Perth don't realise they have a scammer as their deputy mayor.

Hahahaaaa.....brilliant.....I love it!

Definitely not a scam. Trading on Binance and Coinbase with third exchange to come.

Real world international trials

Including WA Government Western Power

Vector in NZ

Origin Energy in Australia

Chair Person is currently the Deputy Mayor of Perth City Western Australia

Participants in the ICO have already doubled or tripled their investment depending on their ICO price (Pre sale v Main sale)

Power Ledger has an office in St Georges Terrace Perth Central Business District - go and visit their office to discuss your scam claim

Visit their live trials at the WGV Ecovillage in Fremantle

Visit their official page on this Forum if you want the real information

"It's scam" they said

Oh god...

I still think it's a scam. but it's a scam that made me a lot of money today, cashed out at the 90 cents and decided to call it a day. It just doesn't feel right

get off this forum you loser.

POWR is as genuine as they come.

LMAO! You guys are f. crazy :))

https://ibb.co/ixoeKb

P.S. If you don't find a way to make money while you sleep, you will work until you die.

what a clown
Clearly not a scam - founders have been interviewed by all major news outlets every week since the ICO launch
They have working trials that people can visit
Partnerships confirmed with multiple international companies and even Governments
90c is more than 10x the ICO pre sale price of 8c - so you made a killing but this is a scam
POWR is currently at 70c USD and has thousands of loyal supporters - good riddance to you

I agree with you

Powr not a scam

this ico will be smoking hot 

AHAHAHHAAH fortunately  i didnt see this thread when I bought ICO. Yes I was a little worried when it went down for while and almost sold but dude this coin  is not going stop I am holding til end of 2018