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Title: Is this Cloud Mining site a scam?
Post by: ilRena on September 09, 2017, 07:59:56 PM
Hi, I recendly found this website and i'm interested to know if it withdraws or not. This site is called Ilivion and I didn't get information about it, only on youtube but nobody is saying that this is a scam.
Same thing for Scheriton.

Someone is using this websites? Does it pay?

I found some videos on YT that are showing withdrawal proofs.


Title: Re: Is this Cloud Mining site a scam?
Post by: skyline247 on September 09, 2017, 08:21:45 PM
Hi, I recendly found this website and i'm interested to know if it withdraws or not. This site is called Ilivion and I didn't get information about it, only on youtube but nobody is saying that this is a scam.
Same thing for Scheriton.

Someone is using this websites? Does it pay?

I found some videos on YT that are showing withdrawal proofs.

Thanks for not putting a link to the site, because I can guarantee you it is a big scam. These sites only want to reach a certain amount or quota of deposits, then they shut down and take all Bitcoin from everyone for themselves. It really is sad how many people scam for Bitcoins these days... this money will not benefit them, only hurt them.


Title: Re: Is this Cloud Mining site a scam?
Post by: Ultegra134 on September 09, 2017, 08:46:10 PM
Stay away from it, the language seems Russian, although it does have other translations. Plenty of grammatical and typographical errors in their "About Us" page (English Translation). It does have an SSL Protocol, although Scam Adviser deems this site as suspicious, and indeed it is.

The domain's age is only 32 days old, it was just created, the email they've used is a FREE Gmail and it's seems to be based in Ukraine.

I don't need to say more I guess, most, if not all with only a few exceptions to the rule, so-called mining websites are scam.


Title: Re: Is this Cloud Mining site a scam?
Post by: Skyborn on September 09, 2017, 08:54:43 PM
There's a lot of controversy around cloud mining sites. Personally I don't feel like it's wise for me to invest so I'm most definitely staying away. Of course you're free to do what you want but I advise you to be extremely careful!


Title: Re: Is this Cloud Mining site a scam?
Post by: tekno on September 09, 2017, 09:03:54 PM
2 things make difference.
referral bonus and payment bonus.
if any cloud site give you bonuses and wants to invite people around you or give bonuses on buying hash xxx more hash with cheaper than %xx  its probably scam.


Title: Re: Is this Cloud Mining site a scam?
Post by: FiiNALiZE on September 09, 2017, 09:52:44 PM
2 things make difference.
referral bonus and payment bonus.
if any cloud site give you bonuses and wants to invite people around you or give bonuses on buying hash xxx more hash with cheaper than %xx  its probably scam.
In reality, there is not that many websites that lasted a while (Years or multiple years staying online). Most people that are posting in this forum know that Cloud Mining websites make people think that they will make money in just a short amount of time though there is no real guarantee that they will make their initial deposit back within a year.
It’s best that you don’t even take the chance to apply to those websites because the more that people join in on those things the more those websites will grow and hinder the investor’s gains in the market.


Title: Re: Is this Cloud Mining site a scam?
Post by: Mike Mayor on September 09, 2017, 10:02:53 PM
Cloud mining is something legit where you would rent out hash power they sell to you. You ask why the would sell their hash power ? Easy answer, it's so they can buy more and expand. Better to make a smaller percentage of something big then large percentage on something small.  The problem happens when these websites don't actually own any miners at all and si oke use a Ponzi scheme to pay you out. It's all fake there no miners. Ever wonder why there is always a lack of pics of the miners ? Well that is because they don't exist. Rather use miningrental.com for your mining rentals needs.


Title: Re: Is this Cloud Mining site a scam?
Post by: Rahar02 on September 09, 2017, 11:14:36 PM
Cloud mining isn't a good idea to generate bitcoin, if you want to; just build your mining rig, spend $2000 for the start even though just a simple hardware to mining. There are several problems with cloud mining, because it seems an easy way to deceive people to invest in their scam sites, it takes a long time to get ROI as well which is you can do better if the funds invested in bitcoin and altcoins.
The most famous cloud mining is genesis mining, there are many people have given their reviews about the profit if invest in genesis and even some YouTube videos inside genesis cloud mining in Iceland. But, it takes thousands dollars to invest in order to get decent hash power and get ROI faster, but still isn't worth for me compare with another source of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Is this Cloud Mining site a scam?
Post by: Bobsrepair on September 10, 2017, 12:23:19 AM
Cloud mining isn't a good idea to generate bitcoin, if you want to; just build your mining rig, spend $2000 for the start even though just a simple hardware to mining. There are several problems with cloud mining, because it seems an easy way to deceive people to invest in their scam sites, it takes a long time to get ROI as well which is you can do better if the funds invested in bitcoin and altcoins.
The most famous cloud mining is genesis mining, there are many people have given their reviews about the profit if invest in genesis and even some YouTube videos inside genesis cloud mining in Iceland. But, it takes thousands dollars to invest in order to get decent hash power and get ROI faster, but still isn't worth for me compare with another source of bitcoin.
I couldnt agree more with you. So many scams out there.. I think it would be better to take that cash and put into Bitcoin oppose to cloud mining.


Title: Re: Is this Cloud Mining site a scam?
Post by: xypos on September 10, 2017, 12:28:11 AM
It's definitely a scam.

This reminds me of another site that is incredibly similar to this one, i'm pretty sure ilivion got their inspiration from them. Can't remember the site name, though. But same layout, same coins, same payout structure.

They are guaranteeing you payouts so this is nothing related to mining. If they can guarantee such high payouts then it's a ponzi scheme.


Title: Re: Is this Cloud Mining site a scam?
Post by: magneto on September 10, 2017, 12:59:39 AM
Hi, I recendly found this website and i'm interested to know if it withdraws or not. This site is called Ilivion and I didn't get information about it, only on youtube but nobody is saying that this is a scam.
Same thing for Scheriton.

Someone is using this websites? Does it pay?

I found some videos on YT that are showing withdrawal proofs.

Use your logic. How is it possible for them to guarantee you a stable income when other legit cloud mining services are having trouble even returning the investor's initial investment? It's obvious that they are either an outright scam or a ponzi.

There are a lot of youtubers out there that are trying to get you to use their affiliate link so that they can earn money. I would stay clear of any "cloud mining" sites that offer you any sort of guaranteed income that is many times higher than bank interest.

It is just not sustainable and even if they pay now, they won't continue to pay you.


Title: Re: Is this Cloud Mining site a scam?
Post by: sweetdesirez on September 10, 2017, 02:42:48 AM
I did not even bother to search for this site as you didn't provide any link, because every single search will only help it rank in search engines ;D
Just follow the thumb rule, if any site offers a fixed rate of profits, its a ponzi taken granted for ;D


Title: Re: Is this Cloud Mining site a scam?
Post by: cpfreeplz on September 10, 2017, 02:47:35 AM
All cloud mining operations are a scam. If there is a legitimate one out there's right now it will be a scam in the future. Think about it, why rent out a miner to have you earn the profits when they already did the hard part? They had it shipped, they got it set up and running. If they make more renting it out than they would from mining then they're just scamming you, and if it's the other way around they're losing money. Neither makes sense so it has to be a ponzi.

TL;DR: Just stay away!!


Title: Re: Is this Cloud Mining site a scam?
Post by: pawanjain on September 10, 2017, 05:00:05 AM
Hi, I recendly found this website and i'm interested to know if it withdraws or not. This site is called Ilivion and I didn't get information about it, only on youtube but nobody is saying that this is a scam.
Same thing for Scheriton.

Someone is using this websites? Does it pay?

I found some videos on YT that are showing withdrawal proofs.
One thing i keep on repeating is that 99% of the cloud mining websites are scam and the rest 1% which actually pays you are not much profitable.
Mining is a tedious process and it takes a lot of effort to building a profitable mining rig. So why will they pay you for all their efforts unless you are investing in them. If you want to mine some coins then the best thing to do will be build your own mining rig and i recommend building a rig through graphics cards as you can use them well and sell it later when you finish the job. Dont go for cloud mining stuff as they are not profitable and most probably fake.


Title: Re: Is this Cloud Mining site a scam?
Post by: jtipt on September 10, 2017, 08:08:39 AM
Hi, I recendly found this website and i'm interested to know if it withdraws or not. This site is called Ilivion and I didn't get information about it, only on youtube but nobody is saying that this is a scam.
Same thing for Scheriton.

Someone is using this websites? Does it pay?

I found some videos on YT that are showing withdrawal proofs.
I haven't heard of the site. And I can't find it, if you can provide a link to it would be good. But whether it is scam or not I would strongly suggest you against from investing in cloud mining, it is not at all profitable the websites that promise high returns are most probably scam, so if this website is promising high returns then it is likely a scam.


Title: Re: Is this Cloud Mining site a scam?
Post by: whitefish on September 10, 2017, 10:54:20 AM
Most of the cloud mining company is scammers better not to invest any cloud mining website.  :)


Title: Re: Is this Cloud Mining site a scam?
Post by: iqlimasyadiqa on September 10, 2017, 01:57:43 PM
Hi, I recendly found this website and i'm interested to know if it withdraws or not. This site is called Ilivion and I didn't get information about it, only on youtube but nobody is saying that this is a scam.
Same thing for Scheriton.

Someone is using this websites? Does it pay?

I found some videos on YT that are showing withdrawal proofs.
One thing i keep on repeating is that 99% of the cloud mining websites are scam and the rest 1% which actually pays you are not much profitable.
Mining is a tedious process and it takes a lot of effort to building a profitable mining rig. So why will they pay you for all their efforts unless you are investing in them. If you want to mine some coins then the best thing to do will be build your own mining rig and i recommend building a rig through graphics cards as you can use them well and sell it later when you finish the job. Dont go for cloud mining stuff as they are not profitable and most probably fake.
everyone now has a commitment to declare that cloud mining is just a fake calculation. so what we get will not benefit. we will only get a bit of bitcoin and in the end we will only lose all the money we have. so cloud mining is not an answer to make an investment, only people who do not have the confidence that dare to take risks and people who have trust then he will make other investments such as trading and also buy hardware mining.


Title: Re: Is this Cloud Mining site a scam?
Post by: gribble on September 10, 2017, 02:00:56 PM
Hi, I recendly found this website and i'm interested to know if it withdraws or not. This site is called Ilivion and I didn't get information about it, only on youtube but nobody is saying that this is a scam.
Same thing for Scheriton.

Someone is using this websites? Does it pay?

I found some videos on YT that are showing withdrawal proofs.
The cloud mining service without any other source of information can be trusted, no one gives reviews about the service, no supporter of hardware miners, i think it is just hyip website, Ponzi website or money games, it will be scam in the end. Even the cloud mining service is like hashnest.com will be difficult to get return of investment on there because the cost of mining activities is increasing every time include the difficulty of the coin.


Title: Re: Is this Cloud Mining site a scam?
Post by: DGulari on September 10, 2017, 02:05:08 PM

I found some videos on YT that are showing withdrawal proofs.
Don't ever to try that site even only with very small amount. Your money won't back to you.
That withdrawal proofs only bullshit from the admin of that site, they made it looks "legit" to lure another people (victim) to invest in their site.


Title: Re: Is this Cloud Mining site a scam?
Post by: MarioLuck990 on September 10, 2017, 02:28:52 PM
It doesn't even make any sense someone give you bitcoins for those who mined in first place! People it is obvious that this its a scam.


Title: Re: Is this Cloud Mining site a scam?
Post by: Gotottack on September 10, 2017, 04:10:31 PM
It doesn't even make any sense someone give you bitcoins for those who mined in first place! People it is obvious that this its a scam.

Of course this site is a scam! The only reason why they put it up there is because they are promoting it themselves! They are not here really to ask questions whether that site is legit or not, these people are generally promoting it by making people aware of this scam site. They are trying to see if some gullible folk will fall for it.


Title: Re: Is this Cloud Mining site a scam?
Post by: FasTroy on September 10, 2017, 10:57:28 PM
Hi, I recendly found this website and i'm interested to know if it withdraws or not. This site is called Ilivion and I didn't get information about it, only on youtube but nobody is saying that this is a scam.
Same thing for Scheriton.

Someone is using this websites? Does it pay?

I found some videos on YT that are showing withdrawal proofs.
I don't advise to invest in cloud mining sites, they mostly scams and maybe all they scams. There is some sites they fake that they have a farm for mining and use pyramid scheme like Hashocean in the past when it scam all of us in the middel of 2016, Personally i got scammed by it and by a lot of cloud mining sites, so you should be careful when you put your money.


Title: Re: Is this Cloud Mining site a scam?
Post by: Klausi on September 10, 2017, 11:40:23 PM
It doesn't even make any sense someone give you bitcoins for those who mined in first place! People it is obvious that this its a scam.

Of course this site is a scam! The only reason why they put it up there is because they are promoting it themselves! They are not here really to ask questions whether that site is legit or not, these people are generally promoting it by making people aware of this scam site. They are trying to see if some gullible folk will fall for it.

We shouldn't be hesitant to tell other people or never controll yourself to comment about what this site is doind to people around us or even more of the btc talk members were a victim of that mining sites. They kept on telling positive despite of their plans to scam in terms of showing attractive proofs, but eventually fails as investor planned to do partnership with them. My advice is never do transactions with these schemes and don't entertain their offers for you.


Title: Re: Is this Cloud Mining site a scam?
Post by: Ctn on September 12, 2017, 05:15:17 AM
Don't know why I'm saying this but cloud mining is ponzi as well as fishy sometimes. I have been gone through genesis mining reviews just now and with their set up and real proof of farms they seem to be real.


I'm not sure about the site that you have mentioned here as long as you get the proof of their existence. Most of the sites are scam because they are not really doing the mining they will be just showing up that they are doing it. The cool website with catchy calculator showing you huge profits is just smelly one. Don't trust any cloud mining so easily as long as you have got all the proofs from them.





Title: Re: Is this Cloud Mining site a scam?
Post by: CraigWrightBTC on September 14, 2017, 01:42:05 PM
Hi, I recendly found this website and i'm interested to know if it withdraws or not. This site is called Ilivion and I didn't get information about it, only on youtube but nobody is saying that this is a scam.
Same thing for Scheriton.

Someone is using this websites? Does it pay?

I found some videos on YT that are showing withdrawal proofs.
No, there are no peoples who use the cloud mining service without real reputation, real mining there are no proofs about that, it will be scam in the end. If you want really try to cloud mining service, please try https://www.hashnest.com/ that has real mining activity and be supported by bitmain for the hardware of miners, but i don't guarantee your investment will be return of investment because the difficulty of mining always increase every time.


Title: Re: Is this Cloud Mining site a scam?
Post by: Tyrantt on September 14, 2017, 03:31:01 PM
I can't even find a website but spotting a scam cloud mining service is pretty easy. First thing is that most of them are. Second, look at the interest rates that are ridiculously high, also many of them don't respond to customer support once you've deposited your btc and when you think of it, for a cloud mining to be profitable, they'd need huge, huge amounts of money invested and it will probably never pay out for them to rent that hashpower. So pretty much in the end, there are no more legit cloudmining services or there's maybe just a few, like 2-3.


Title: Re: Is this Cloud Mining site a scam?
Post by: shield132 on September 14, 2017, 06:34:29 PM
Seems this people still can't learn on thing: Learn on mistakes. Who will offer you guaranteed monthly profit for lifetime with just one investment. Than everyone would sell house and sit and wait how they will become millionares. Forget man, you have to earn money by work in real life or from good chanel on youtube, adsense, affiliate and etc. No easy money, it doesn't exist. I think there must be pinned one thread about that because still many people make mistake. I think everyone would know Hashocean's exit scam, it's best example of no real cloud mining with gret profit. If you still want cloud mining, choose one which is very old (like hashnest) and you have ability to sell your hashrates and get btc back at any time.


Title: Re: Is this Cloud Mining site a scam?
Post by: btcjocan on September 14, 2017, 08:25:04 PM
I can't even find a website but spotting a scam cloud mining service is pretty easy. First thing is that most of them are. Second, look at the interest rates that are ridiculously high, also many of them don't respond to customer support once you've deposited your btc and when you think of it, for a cloud mining to be profitable, they'd need huge, huge amounts of money invested and it will probably never pay out for them to rent that hashpower. So pretty much in the end, there are no more legit cloudmining services or there's maybe just a few, like 2-3.

It sounds funny that more people will be investing for it since then, and as we have observed for the current reviews this was really showing that scam is already happening here. That has been confirmed that most of those who invested was into ponzi scheme, and the strategies were almost similar to those networkers of fiat cash. The investments offering any food supplements or any other products venturing any referral reward system, which made people hesitant on any fiat investments but now more rampant in cloud mining platforms.


Title: Re: Is this Cloud Mining site a scam?
Post by: jonsi on September 14, 2017, 11:21:01 PM
This scamers are geting smarte every day.

Ofcourse it's a scam and ofcourse the OP is promoting this scam and it's actively involve in it. I have exposing scams a long time on this forum and I can tell that every site that is promising free money it's 100% a scam. All you have to do is think for yourself, would you make a site to give money for free?.. and then you have your answer.

Please stay away and be shure to inform others because this is the only way that we can stop all the hypes/ponzies/scams.


Title: Re: Is this Cloud Mining site a scam?
Post by: sunsilk on September 15, 2017, 04:29:12 AM
Hi, I recendly found this website and i'm interested to know if it withdraws or not. This site is called Ilivion and I didn't get information about it, only on youtube but nobody is saying that this is a scam.
Same thing for Scheriton.

Someone is using this websites? Does it pay?

I found some videos on YT that are showing withdrawal proofs.
I never heard about Ilivion, nobody is giving it some feed back because it may not be popular for now.

But if that's a cloud mining, then just don't stay with it and better that you have to avoid those type of similar cloud mining sites.

Because at the very end of it, you are only wasting your money for investing to the wrong place.


Title: Re: Is this Cloud Mining site a scam?
Post by: yndye on September 15, 2017, 05:57:33 AM
Seems this people still can't learn on thing: Learn on mistakes. Who will offer you guaranteed monthly profit for lifetime with just one investment. Than everyone would sell house and sit and wait how they will become millionares. Forget man, you have to earn money by work in real life or from good chanel on youtube, adsense, affiliate and etc. No easy money, it doesn't exist. I think there must be pinned one thread about that because still many people make mistake. I think everyone would know Hashocean's exit scam, it's best example of no real cloud mining with gret profit. If you still want cloud mining, choose one which is very old (like hashnest) and you have ability to sell your hashrates and get btc back at any time.

I am one of those people who invested on Hashocean because I have just known bitcoin last year and Hashocean is the most famous site in cloud mining. They are paying until they are not anymore. They are gone before the halving and I believe it is one of the biggest cloud mining scam in history. I did not entirely got back my investment but at least I still have some left to start all over again. I did invest all my bitcoin that I bought on that site. It is so enticing because it is passive income. I learned my lesson during that time and said that I would never invest in any cloud mining site again.

There are many cloud mining sites appearing like mushrooms and HYIP sites and all you need to do is to evaluate if the percentage return they offer is believable or too good to be true. These kind of sites exist for a few weeks or months and then disappear with all its investors money so if you believe that most likely its a scam, avoid it at all cost.


Title: Re: Is this Cloud Mining site a scam?
Post by: pikebu on September 15, 2017, 08:54:50 PM
Hi, I recendly found this website and i'm interested to know if it withdraws or not. This site is called Ilivion and I didn't get information about it, only on youtube but nobody is saying that this is a scam.
Same thing for Scheriton.

Someone is using this websites? Does it pay?

I found some videos on YT that are showing withdrawal proofs.
Mostly cloud mining service, they are running Ponzi scheme in their service it is not really doing mining the digital coins, especially the website of cloud mining service that doesn't have support for the hardware miners. Even if the website pays you, it won't survive for long time and be scam in the end if there are no peoples who invest into there, you can check the detail of website cloud mining on https://www.scamadviser.com/ include the review from other people and other information.


Title: Re: Is this Cloud Mining site a scam?
Post by: Javi_Anibarro on September 16, 2017, 06:59:42 AM
in general,
all Cloud mining site are scammer,because they can not guarantee your money and your earning.
some cases you will see they did not get any earning from their contracts.
for example you're buying 1 year contracts,and after 9 months your contract no longer generate any profit from it.
so why bother talking about cloud mining because it's like a ponzi scheme in my opinion


Title: Re: Is this Cloud Mining site a scam?
Post by: black014 on October 01, 2017, 09:58:00 PM
don't trust on what you see in youtube because they try to convince people to make invesment to their website, cloud mining or HYIP are always turn to scam after a long time. so i suggest you, if i were you i'll stay away to any kind of cloud mining site brother. think first before you decide..
don't waste your time to the cloud mining site they always no intent to pay back at all. trust me, most of people here in forum they know what the cloud mining/HYIP is.


Title: Re: ilivion Cloud Mining site IS a scam.
Post by: ParbinAkhtar on January 14, 2018, 06:14:35 PM
ILIVION is a scam. it does not pay. i have joined this site and earned the income , but at the time of payment , this website told to deposite minimum 10 dollars. No payment from this site.Ihave completed 5th level. IT IS A SCAM SITE . DONT JOIN ilivion