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Title: Trezor verifying your seed words
Post by: bdog1234 on September 09, 2017, 09:02:04 PM
I just purchased a trezor and set it up. My plans for this are ultra safe storage of a decent sum of BTC for a long period and not using it on a day to day basis.

I have read through how it works and watched a half dozen you tube videos but I am not sure how to securely verify my seed words should I ever need to use them. It seems you can do a restore but that involves typing them in on your computer which doesnt seem safe if your computer is compromised.

Then again using the device without testing the seed restore process doesn't seem to safe either.

Any recommendations?


Title: Re: Trezor verifying your seed words
Post by: AGD on September 09, 2017, 09:35:48 PM
If you think a computer can be compromised, why do you believe that a Trezor can't be?


Title: Re: Trezor verifying your seed words
Post by: bdog1234 on September 09, 2017, 10:09:50 PM
Keyloggers, spyware, etc are all too common. The trezor is by design a very secure device and doesn't ever share your keys with the computer it is connected to.


Title: Re: Trezor verifying your seed words
Post by: Meuh6879 on September 09, 2017, 10:23:29 PM
It seems you can do a restore but that involves typing them in on your computer

and with a hardware device connected on ...
you can not sniff a hardware device like this with remote control.

you see a MAC address device and a bunch of words ... and what ?
you don't have the inside of the HARDWARE DEVICE.
HARDWARE DEVICE only provide an order, a script on BTC network.

it's all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt-zXEsJ61U


Title: Re: Trezor verifying your seed words
Post by: AGD on September 10, 2017, 06:55:02 AM
It seems you can do a restore but that involves typing them in on your computer

and with a hardware device connected on ...
you can not sniff a hardware device like this with remote control.

you see a MAC address device and a bunch of words ... and what ?
you don't have the inside of the HARDWARE DEVICE.
HARDWARE DEVICE only provide an order, a script on BTC network.

it's all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt-zXEsJ61U

How can AA be sure, that smartphones are much safer than a laptop? I really doubt that.


Title: Re: Trezor verifying your seed words
Post by: HCP on September 10, 2017, 10:07:31 AM
I just purchased a trezor and set it up. My plans for this are ultra safe storage of a decent sum of BTC for a long period and not using it on a day to day basis.

I have read through how it works and watched a half dozen you tube videos but I am not sure how to securely verify my seed words should I ever need to use them. It seems you can do a restore but that involves typing them in on your computer which doesnt seem safe if your computer is compromised.

Then again using the device without testing the seed restore process doesn't seem to safe either.

Any recommendations?
Restoring the Trezor has 2 options for helping to protect your seed...

1. The words are entered into the computer in a shuffled order... along with "bogus" words. So you end up entering more than 24 words in random order... in an effort to confuse/defeat keyloggers.

2. As of firmware 1.5.2, they have an "Advanced" recovery system. It works like the PIN entry, with randomised "letters" displayed on the device screen, and you click the box on the PC. It is a LONG process entering 24 words this way, but it is nice and secure ;)

Read here: https://doc.satoshilabs.com/trezor-user/advancedrecovery.html