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Title: 9/11 reality or conspiracy?
Post by: mirror001 on September 10, 2017, 10:52:56 AM
there are lots of people saying that the 9/11 was a conspiracy and many are saying that it is reality. those who says that is a conspiracy says that governament planted all this and put the blame on terrorest to expand their miltary operations and to control the world through perfect plan. and those who says that is a reality says that thay are still having the nightmares about that horrible incident. so is it areality or a conspiracy? ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: 9/11 reality or conspiracy?
Post by: s31joemhar on September 10, 2017, 01:51:30 PM
i do hope that 9/11 is real and not planted i want to blame the terrorist for having that disaster who took so many lives ..
many innocent were killed on that day! so if its a conspiracy WHAT THE FUCK america why you that ? and why so many evidence are now leaking that it is a conspiracy.. for what ? military ? i dont think so . there is a reason behind that .. maybe the group of terrorist that once they help and build is a threat now for them which they want to create a reason to destroy them in a way they want to do it !!


Title: Re: 9/11 reality or conspiracy?
Post by: yoseph on September 10, 2017, 02:08:37 PM
there are lots of people saying that the 9/11 was a conspiracy and many are saying that it is reality. those who says that is a conspiracy says that governament planted all this and put the blame on terrorest to expand their miltary operations and to control the world through perfect plan. and those who says that is a reality says that thay are still having the nightmares about that horrible incident. so is it areality or a conspiracy? ::) ::) ::)
Logically speaking how can a plane struck a building at the top and then the building goes down as if explosives were planted at the base, I believe that was exactly what happened, they knew that AL Qaeda were going to attack and they did nothing about it and used it as a cover to do whatever they wanted to do. It was planned from the get go.


Title: Re: 9/11 reality or conspiracy?
Post by: mirror001 on September 10, 2017, 02:35:19 PM
there are lots of people saying that the 9/11 was a conspiracy and many are saying that it is reality. those who says that is a conspiracy says that governament planted all this and put the blame on terrorest to expand their miltary operations and to control the world through perfect plan. and those who says that is a reality says that thay are still having the nightmares about that horrible incident. so is it areality or a conspiracy? ::) ::) ::)
Logically speaking how can a plane struck a building at the top and then the building goes down as if explosives were planted at the base, I believe that was exactly what happened, they knew that AL Qaeda were going to attack and they did nothing about it and used it as a cover to do whatever they wanted to do. It was planned from the get go.
  I have seen so many videos and clips about this horrible incident and they were proving that when plan hit the building its pointed end comes out of the steel wall and hit the other building near it. And they also show that a bus and even plane can not cross the concrete wall, then how the plane hit and comes out from the other side of the building. And all videos were from the specific angle to deceive everyone seeing that picture.

I have also seen a video that plane hit the building at 9:03 and a man standing there filming that seen in his cell and the clock shows the time of 9:04 hours, hows that even possible that after hitting the building a man still standing and shooting that scene?


Title: Re: 9/11 reality or conspiracy?
Post by: Monta3002 on September 10, 2017, 02:38:59 PM
It was planned for a political reason, how could you imagine that a building would collapsed by just colliding with an airplane, I have watched many documentaries about 9/11 attack all of the experts said that it was a demolition


Title: Re: 9/11 reality or conspiracy?
Post by: BADecker on September 10, 2017, 02:40:10 PM
I think 9/11 was real. I think many people died, and buildings came crashing down.

I think it was a conspiracy that brought 9/11 about.

8)


Title: Re: 9/11 reality or conspiracy?
Post by: HODLwearz on September 10, 2017, 02:50:01 PM
I think people need to look at what we know.
We know the govt intelligence agencies had information that this type of attack was going to happen and at the very least the govt allowed it to happen.
We also know that members of the Saudi govt were implicated as being involved.
We know the Saudi's want to control the middle east and desperately want Iran to have little to no influence in the region.
We know the US govt is controlled by corporations and a military industrial complex.
We know these big players in the govt are greedy and evil.

So, just that alone tells me the govt was complicit in letting something happen that they had knowledge of.
Focusing on the scientific possibilities is sort of pointless and almost acts as a distraction to what we already know.

I mean, come on, there was legislation that allowed families to sue the Saudi govt for 9/11.... that seems to make it glaringly obvious that some members of the US govt know what happened.

Doesn't matter what happened in this video or that video. In the end all those videos and scientific studies are red herrings.

The big clue that there was collusion b/w the military industrial complex, the oil industry and major players within the US govt was the fact that we invaded Iraq 2 years after 9/11 for apparently no real reason other than to intimidate Iran and the rest of the influential countries in the region and to control resources. I'm not sure what more you need to see that this was more than just a well orchestrated plan pulled off by extremists living in the middle of Afghanistan.


Title: Re: 9/11 reality or conspiracy?
Post by: BADecker on September 10, 2017, 02:56:21 PM
I think people need to look at what we know.

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The big clue that there was collusion b/w the military industrial complex, the oil industry and major players within the US govt was the fact that we invaded Iraq 2 years after 9/11 for apparently no real reason other than to intimidate Iran and the rest of the influential countries in the region and to control resources. I'm not sure what more you need to see that this was more than just a well orchestrated plan pulled off by extremists living in the middle of Afghanistan.


Right. People in Iraq were happy when America got rid of Saddam Husein. Then they had a big cultural shock when America attacked them.

8)


Title: Re: 9/11 reality or conspiracy?
Post by: joebrook on September 10, 2017, 03:07:08 PM
I think 9/11 was real. I think many people died, and buildings came crashing down.

I think it was a conspiracy that brought 9/11 about.

8)
The American government is so secretive and most of their history is shrouded in secrecy and conspiracy, take a look at how John F. Kennedy was assassinated, without a doubt there were people in the higher echelon of politics who were not happy about how he was running things and wanted him gone especially the CIA after the Bay of Pigs debacle. If they could sacrifice the life of a sitting President, how much more civilians.


Title: Re: 9/11 reality or conspiracy?
Post by: BADecker on September 10, 2017, 03:10:39 PM
I think 9/11 was real. I think many people died, and buildings came crashing down.

I think it was a conspiracy that brought 9/11 about.

8)
The American government is so secretive and most of their history is shrouded in secrecy and conspiracy, take a look at how John F. Kennedy was assassinated, without a doubt there were people in the higher echelon of politics who were not happy about how he was running things and wanted him gone especially the CIA after the Bay of Pigs debacle. If they could sacrifice the life of a sitting President, how much more civilians.

The current banking system is the One World Government. If Bitcoin goes ballistic, Bitcoin will make it stronger than ever.

8)


Title: Re: 9/11 reality or conspiracy?
Post by: cigaLeider on September 10, 2017, 03:26:25 PM
No one knows or will never know. But with all that we have seen and with the countermeasures that were taken after such an event, I would not be surprised at anything provoked.


Title: Re: 9/11 reality or conspiracy?
Post by: Jpti on September 10, 2017, 03:31:39 PM
Just had new revelations today. Saudi seems to be deeply involved in the incident

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/09/saudi-embassy-funded-911-dry-run-report-170909223532351.html


Title: Re: 9/11 reality or conspiracy?
Post by: roastedparsnip on September 10, 2017, 06:40:33 PM
I think people need to look at what we know.
We know the govt intelligence agencies had information that this type of attack was going to happen and at the very least the govt allowed it to happen.
We also know that members of the Saudi govt were implicated as being involved.
We know the Saudi's want to control the middle east and desperately want Iran to have little to no influence in the region.
We know the US govt is controlled by corporations and a military industrial complex.
We know these big players in the govt are greedy and evil.

So, just that alone tells me the govt was complicit in letting something happen that they had knowledge of.
Focusing on the scientific possibilities is sort of pointless and almost acts as a distraction to what we already know.

I mean, come on, there was legislation that allowed families to sue the Saudi govt for 9/11.... that seems to make it glaringly obvious that some members of the US govt know what happened.

Doesn't matter what happened in this video or that video. In the end all those videos and scientific studies are red herrings.

The big clue that there was collusion b/w the military industrial complex, the oil industry and major players within the US govt was the fact that we invaded Iraq 2 years after 9/11 for apparently no real reason other than to intimidate Iran and the rest of the influential countries in the region and to control resources. I'm not sure what more you need to see that this was more than just a well orchestrated plan pulled off by extremists living in the middle of Afghanistan.
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You make some really good points. I would add the following:

Have a read of what some of the world's most prominent architects and engineers have to say about the collapse of the twin towers.

Read up on the story of Building 7 and how it collapsed despite not being hit in the attacks.

The sad thing is that there is enough evidence to raise serious questions about the official story we've been force fed about 9/11. However, even when faced with clear evidence, most people will just dismiss it.

This is because to take on that information would lead them eventually question everything about our world, our govts and our lives. It would be too painful for most people to accept that there are special interest groups inside and outside of govts. who call the real shots. And these people are psychopaths who will do anything to advance their own interests.

The armies we are encouraged to worship, the wars we are programmed to support are not there to protect us. They are there to serve the goals of their real masters, whether they know it or not.

It's much easier to watch Fox News and be a 'patriot'.


Title: Re: 9/11 reality or conspiracy?
Post by: mirror001 on September 11, 2017, 06:16:35 AM
Just had new revelations today. Saudi seems to be deeply involved in the incident

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/09/saudi-embassy-funded-911-dry-run-report-170909223532351.html
what non sense saudia has nothing to do with this. this is all just to cover their tracks and divert people mind into other matters so that no one can learn about  the actual truth. let say if saudia is involved how this can even possible that saudia can assist these attaks. i dont think so. this was all about having an agenda of terrorism and attack those countries which US think can be dangerous for their existance in the near future. i know sound crazy but this is the truth. they planned it on very higher levels and named the terrorists and then start attacking countries they want to demolish.  no one knows their future plans but they have planned it to control or to attack near by countries in the future for their resources and resorviores of any thing that country holds.


Title: Re: 9/11 reality or conspiracy?
Post by: September11Myth on September 11, 2017, 02:07:15 PM
It was planned for a political reason, how could you imagine that a building would collapsed by just colliding with an airplane, I have watched many documentaries about 9/11 attack all of the experts said that it was a demolition

The real issue is the third tower which collapsed 5 hours later without being hit by any plane at all...


Title: Re: 9/11 reality or conspiracy?
Post by: X2PR8888 on November 01, 2017, 08:55:38 AM
I am not one to just state whether the 9/11 attack was real or just hoaxed but all I know is that a lot of people suffered and died during that fateful day. 🙁 What's even more heartbreaking is how it not only killed the people inside the buildings but in a way, killed the hearts of those they have left behimd because of the pain they felt over losing their loved ones. No one wants to lose a loved one in such horrifying ways. No one deserves that. 😭


Title: Re: 9/11 reality or conspiracy?
Post by: popcorn1 on November 01, 2017, 09:25:29 AM
9/11 is a reality ..

A reality that greedy money monsters done it for 2.3 trillion dollars and the insurance scams the stock
exchange scams    and that was it         and made everyone else think it was for another reason..

NOPE it was the MONEY MONSTERS..

Do you know what MONEY MONSTERS do?..
Let your children die for money ;)..SCARY MONSTERS WOOOOOOOOOOO :D..

The USA has the biggest money monsters on this planet so much so look how many of there own people die each year all because of the MONEY MONSTERS ..

Oh if your asking where do these money monsters hide ..
In a place called WASHINGTON and spread them out state by state more MONEY MONSTERS..

No wonder they are so FAT :D :D..Greedy MONEY MONSTERS..



Title: Re: 9/11 reality or conspiracy?
Post by: androidpobeditel on November 13, 2017, 11:17:22 AM
I believe that the world conspiracy exists and it is aimed at reducing the number of people on earth. But I have reason to think that people who are at the head of the world government are ruled by someone else. Otherwise, how can you explain the facts of mass deaths for various reasons? All kinds of wars, epidemics, ecological and technogenic catastrophes are artificially created and managed.


Title: Re: 9/11 reality or conspiracy?
Post by: WhaleHunter on November 13, 2017, 06:26:55 PM
What does it mean "reality or conspiracy?". Whatever happened it happened for real. Only the representations are false. We should start to use the right words.


Title: Re: 9/11 reality or conspiracy?
Post by: coinleely on November 13, 2017, 06:30:58 PM
I prolly will lose my faith in humanity if the 9/11 attack was an inside job


Title: Re: 9/11 reality or conspiracy?
Post by: popcorn1 on November 13, 2017, 06:43:13 PM
I prolly will lose my faith in humanity if the 9/11 attack was an inside job
I lost my faith in humanity years ago ;) NOW WEEP :-*

9/11 Pentagon-attack: "The plane does not fit in that hole!" - YouTube
Video for pentago still standing after plane it it▶ 12:25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BktTBfUZYTg
26 May 2015 - Uploaded by 911Dokumentar
What Really Happened on September 11 at the Pentagon ... Just minutes after the attack, standing in front .

HOW on earth can a massive plane go missing  ::)..

It does for 2.3 TRILLION DOLLARS .. :D :D..

Biggest robbery in human history ..
Makes the great train robbery look like pocket change..


Title: Re: 9/11 reality or conspiracy?
Post by: September11Myth on November 13, 2017, 07:04:32 PM
I prolly will lose my faith in humanity if the 9/11 attack was an inside job

Someone still has something like that? Wow, you must be a teenager, in this case it's understandable :)


Title: Re: 9/11 reality or conspiracy?
Post by: popcorn1 on November 13, 2017, 07:05:23 PM
Just think if Mr Blair wouldn't of filled my land YES my LAND with muslim crazies then i wouldn't
be saying anything..

You put our children lives in danger for monies ..
Believe me if we have civil war your to blame for everything..
You and your religious crazies..

Call yourselves RELIGIOUS and money is the first thing on your minds to kill for monies ..

All this Bullshit that's going on around the world is all the political bums who talk shit and get our children killed for them..

To the CIA why the FUCK do you not do a proper job..Have some PRIDE in what you do
FUCKING ASS HOLES..

I expect if you have a bad high ranking officer i want him or her exposed STRAIGHT AWAY..
THEY are not using you as pawns for their GREED not on my watch..

If your on a mission i expect it to be a real mission not to line some politicians pockets that your boss is getting a cut out of..

So you make sure I WANT THEM exposed ..

I want them all SO DO YOUR FUCKING JOBS..For the sake of all our children >:( >:( :-*

How can you watch while they live in mansions and your dying for peanuts  :-\ :'( :'(..

Any wrong mission TELL THEM to FUCK OFF..Do it yourself SHIT BAG..


Title: Re: 9/11 reality or conspiracy?
Post by: Lounadolcy on November 13, 2017, 10:13:37 PM
9/11 was a clear and clean inside job


Title: Re: 9/11 reality or conspiracy?
Post by: joebrook on November 13, 2017, 10:55:39 PM
9/11 was a clear and clean inside job
The US government sacrificed it's own citizens for God knows what, in my opinion they hired the hijackers to commit that despicable act and later went on on their war on terror.


Title: Re: 9/11 reality or conspiracy?
Post by: mirror001 on November 14, 2017, 12:47:54 PM
It was planned for a political reason, how could you imagine that a building would collapsed by just colliding with an airplane, I have watched many documentaries about 9/11 attack all of the experts said that it was a demolition
i have also seen many videos and docomentries about their reality and what comes out after that tragic accident, and it looks like that was all planned to expand their military expenses and their power to that countries that were threat to those countries or those people who were involved in that terrifying blasts.
and if that was not planned then wo ever did this they have no morality or humanity left. because a normal human being or person can not do such things to so many people.

Am I right or not?


Title: Re: 9/11 reality or conspiracy?
Post by: olubams on November 14, 2017, 01:06:02 PM
there are lots of people saying that the 9/11 was a conspiracy and many are saying that it is reality. those who says that is a conspiracy says that governament planted all this and put the blame on terrorest to expand their miltary operations and to control the world through perfect plan. and those who says that is a reality says that thay are still having the nightmares about that horrible incident. so is it areality or a conspiracy? ::) ::) ::)

Every action of government is always being attached with conspiracy no matter how open and transparent the action is. If government should come and release the video of how a terrorist was killed, you will still see someone saying the individual purportedly killed was planted or they say government is the one sponsoring them etc. 9/11 is an event that shook the whole world and if it has been the action of government sinister motives, then the terrorist played into government's hand not by causing the bomb but also by claiming responsibility for such before government then expand their position since they had already been in the position of strength.


Title: Re: 9/11 reality or conspiracy?
Post by: JessIs8 on November 14, 2017, 02:17:31 PM
It's sad to think that the government would allow their own people to die just to start a statement hating another nation.


Title: Re: 9/11 reality or conspiracy?
Post by: Sidiq SP on November 14, 2017, 02:37:55 PM
apart from that conspiracy or reality, what is clear to me is that it is a heartbreaking fact, involving many victims that happened, the loss is also not small, what is like this is engineering, if true this is engineering, really the person who engineered it is a very bad person , that's my opinion


Title: Re: 9/11 reality or conspiracy?
Post by: joebrook on November 14, 2017, 02:58:37 PM
Until there is hard prove about the whole thing, People are going to speculate without knowing what really happened but in my opinion all roads leads me into thinking they knew something like that was going to happen and they did little to prevent it from happening.


Title: Re: 9/11 reality or conspiracy?
Post by: MonChip on November 14, 2017, 03:17:57 PM
Without the 9/11, we wouldn't have seen a great part in humanity, where almost the entire population was in grief. Christian, Muslims, Americans, Asians, Jews. All were sad of this tragic event


Title: Re: 9/11 reality or conspiracy?
Post by: Bitcoininspace on December 01, 2017, 12:09:52 PM
What does it mean "reality or conspiracy?". Whatever happened it happened for real. Only the representations are false. We should start to use the right words.

I'm afraid that people like not to call things by their proper names


Title: Re: 9/11 reality or conspiracy?
Post by: Cryptostalker59 on December 01, 2017, 12:26:23 PM
The 9/11 was just a test about popular credulity


Title: Re: 9/11 reality or conspiracy?
Post by: GAUMZEE on December 01, 2017, 01:44:24 PM
There are lots of unanswered questions regarding the attacks critical documentaries like Fahrenheit 9/11 raise some un-comfortable question regarding the the attacks. Hence there is no denying that we dont know the whole truth.


Title: Re: 9/11 reality or conspiracy?
Post by: The_prodigy on December 04, 2017, 03:12:19 AM
there are lots of people saying that the 9/11 was a conspiracy and many are saying that it is reality. those who says that is a conspiracy says that governament planted all this and put the blame on terrorest to expand their miltary operations and to control the world through perfect plan. and those who says that is a reality says that thay are still having the nightmares about that horrible incident. so is it areality or a conspiracy? ::) ::) ::)

I think that it would be a whole lot of shitload if the government would kill their own citizens and make a fool out of themselves by pointing a finger at supposed to be enemies just for them to expand and have their own personal agenda.


Title: Re: 9/11 reality or conspiracy?
Post by: LudaIvanova7 on August 25, 2018, 10:49:41 AM
there are lots of people saying that the 9/11 was a conspiracy and many are saying that it is reality. those who says that is a conspiracy says that governament planted all this and put the blame on terrorest to expand their miltary operations and to control the world through perfect plan. and those who says that is a reality says that thay are still having the nightmares about that horrible incident. so is it areality or a conspiracy? ::) ::) ::)

It would be really sad if people find out that it's made by Americans. It might even result into a revolution.