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Title: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: RealBanksy on September 10, 2017, 06:41:45 PM
I saw many people here wondering what to do with Bitcoin, hold, sell, invest...The scams, the ugly side of people.

Just remember couple of years ago, the FBI and the Federal Reserve tried to kill it, and now we are talking or near $250 Billion capital.

In next few years it will reach $1 Trillion.

MAN THE FUCK UP! This is not money, this is not commodity! This is not a stock or bonds...THIS IS BITCOIN.



Real Banksy

[ As in prank] or [Maybe not]


Title: Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: jekjekman on September 10, 2017, 06:47:13 PM
Sad to say money is money, and it will be used in every way possible even in good or bad it is just to whom it may be use. Actually the last sentence that you have been said is the reverse of it, it is all applicable in Bitcoin.

Let the authorities do what they want to do as the Bitcoin itself will do what is needed to do as it is coming to its 1st decade as a digital money this problems will just past and when Bitcoin will survive it all, it will make more stronger more than ever. What doesn't kill you make you stronger.


Title: Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: RealBanksy on September 10, 2017, 09:07:18 PM
For people who are seeking decentralize, I am surprise how some are eager to centralize it with what USA & China want


Title: Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: stronghands4lyfe on September 10, 2017, 10:02:48 PM
So we are supposed to man up and do what exactly? Buy bitcoin and which it moon? Instructions unclear here mate. Also btw the market could go either way, who knows cryptos could cease to exist in 19'


Title: Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: guclu on September 10, 2017, 10:05:46 PM
I really don't get your point like the guy above... If you have just invested in btc and trying to motivate some people to invest in it (so that it won't die if I invest my last 3$ in), we are already hyped about it in the forum. Obviously ;D Try your facebook profile for such motivational talk maybe lol


Title: Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: Anfisman on September 10, 2017, 10:36:27 PM
I remember reading a quote "If we wanna get some justice back into our society, we should reduce the importance of the Banks. Bitcoin is banking without banks, so here we go"
So one form of freedom is that we must be able to escape from dependence on the bank, and bitcoin present at this time to offer it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: RealBanksy on September 11, 2017, 04:30:53 AM
So we are supposed to man up and do what exactly? Buy bitcoin and which it moon? Instructions unclear here mate. Also btw the market could go either way, who knows cryptos could cease to exist in 19'

There is no instruction! Why you want someone to tell you what to do? I am saying to you stop thinking about it as Fiat, or stock, or a bond!



Title: Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: MoxleytgfCotta on September 21, 2017, 08:11:08 AM
WOW! I have been listening to Econtalk religiously for nearly a decade now. I never imagined that something I helped create would be talked about on one of my favorite shows.
If you haven't read it already, "The Price of Everything" is worth a read.
I too can date my awareness of Bitcoin to at least the 2011 Econtalk episode. I, like Russ, figured that it couldn't work.
I am still kicking myself for missing Hernando de Soto's lecture in North Carolina back in 2004. My friends only told me about it after they got back from the speech.
I did get to meet Norman Borlaug though, which was probably a better deal. Meeting Michael Munger was pretty neat too.
Jim, if you are reading this, the biggest thing that is happening related to Bitcoin south of the border I in my opinion right now is the Central Bank of Barbados issuing Central Bank money as Colored Coins. A sovereign nation is now relying on the Bitcoin blockchain to conduct monetary operations and settle between banks.


Title: Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: peter0425 on September 21, 2017, 08:18:44 AM
I saw many people here wondering what to do with Bitcoin, hold, sell, invest...The scams, the ugly side of people.

Just remember couple of years ago, the FBI and the Federal Reserve tried to kill it, and now we are talking or near $250 Billion capital.

In next few years it will reach $1 Trillion.

MAN THE FUCK UP! This is not money, this is not commodity! This is not a stock or bonds...THIS IS BITCOIN.



Real Banksy

[ As in prank] or [Maybe not]


I think most of the members here would agree that we all love bitcoin because its de-centralized and no Central banks can control it not even a government. That's the first thing I love that's why I put myself in this situation wherein I can totally control my funds without the banks intervention. "You are your own bank" as what they called it. And the more they tried to kill this system, the more it bounce bank from the grave and now banks are taking notice and for me, they will really attack bitcoin in the next couple of years. So better watch out.


Title: Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: qwertyup23 on September 21, 2017, 08:19:32 AM
I saw many people here wondering what to do with Bitcoin, hold, sell, invest...The scams, the ugly side of people.

Just remember couple of years ago, the FBI and the Federal Reserve tried to kill it, and now we are talking or near $250 Billion capital.

In next few years it will reach $1 Trillion.

MAN THE FUCK UP! This is not money, this is not commodity! This is not a stock or bonds...THIS IS BITCOIN.



Real Banksy

[ As in prank] or [Maybe not]


Well, this is one of the things that we take for granted, including other stuff that might grow bigger in the next few years. It's surprising to see that the potential of bitcoin has already skyrocketed within the span of 3-4 years and we haven't fully utilize its maximum potential. I really do hope that the government of other countries will take bitcoin seriously due to its infinite opportunities to the people and also to the economy. Maybe in the next 2-3 years, bitcoin may evolve into the next generation currency that will shape the economy towards success and development over developing countries.


Title: Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: Tumanggor on September 21, 2017, 08:25:45 AM
there are still many people who are afraid of bitcoin, including the bankers, they will definitely keep trying to destroy Bitcoin and other coin coins, only commodity lovers (if they know bitcoin like gold) and Bitcoin lover will make Bitcoin stay alive


Title: Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: Graphics on September 21, 2017, 08:30:25 AM
Governments should and will oppose bitcoin. IT takes away their power so of course they will resist and fight it.
They are still fighting the Internet and some country are more successful than other.
Same with Bitcoin, They will never stop fighting it since they can not and will not be able to control it, and governments don't like things they can not control.


Title: Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: sebasman2 on October 10, 2017, 06:46:38 PM
That's why I always will believe in bitcoin. Even if the governments will dissalow it, there will still be a rebelling group trying to hold it up.


Title: Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: Envrin on October 10, 2017, 06:53:55 PM

Of course, no one can know exactly what the crypto currency will be waiting for in a few years. One thing is clear. This market is young and full of prospects. Every day he presents chances and opportunities to get rich for many years to come. And only a few of us use this chance. Participating in Ico and bounty, you can save yourself a carefree future. Why not?) ;)


Title: Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: Andre_Goldman on October 10, 2017, 06:58:12 PM
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Title: Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: Ch1bi on October 10, 2017, 07:03:58 PM
I think Bitcoin is whatever people want it to be. The creator definitely wanted it to be a form of freedom hence it's decentralized nature. Besides that, it's used as a form of payment so in my opinion it's money as well. It can also be thought of as an investment due to how high the price is to conventional investments. Bitcoin is great, and I hope it continues to be as good as it's been so far.


Title: Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: DimaS1574 on October 10, 2017, 09:18:09 PM
MAN THE FUCK UP! This is not money, this is not commodity! This is not a stock or bonds...THIS IS BITCOIN.

However bitcoin  provides money and and freedom


Title: Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: bitvalak on October 10, 2017, 09:59:22 PM
in my opinion, bitcoin can be one way to get financial freedom. because in bitcoin we are free to manage our own assets without the intervention of the bank. That way we can collect assets without having to pay unreasonable taxes like what happened during this time when we keep the original money in the bank


Title: Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: Vaskiy on October 10, 2017, 10:05:37 PM
Long back itself experts indicated bitcoin as well the altcoins as freedom. This was purely based on the comparison between the traditional banking and our bitcoin. Once after the existence of bitcoin, several banks around the world went bankrupt as well big losses. This happens because of the freedom provided by the system.


Title: Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: cybersofts on October 10, 2017, 11:36:04 PM
Yes, Bitcoin is everything you want to called it, a currency or an asset. Bitcoin is more popular these days because the value of bitcoin is growing in an exponential rate. People are now making profit with bitcoin more than their own ancestral businesses just for holding it for few months. Bitcoin has huge potential in the future because it provides more freedom and privacy to the people. Bitcoin is purely digital, fast, secure, decentralized and accepted globally. 


Title: Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: bitterguy28 on October 10, 2017, 11:50:39 PM
bitcoin as in freedom legality of bitcoin iin many country are indicated for bitcoin freedom helping to economic of nation acceptence of bitcoin as currency to of every nationality help growth for the economy and help of here pople to get good job.


Title: Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: Mysterious01 on October 11, 2017, 12:20:09 AM
I saw many people here wondering what to do with Bitcoin, hold, sell, invest...The scams, the ugly side of people.

Just remember couple of years ago, the FBI and the Federal Reserve tried to kill it, and now we are talking or near $250 Billion capital.

In next few years it will reach $1 Trillion.

MAN THE FUCK UP! This is not money, this is not commodity! This is not a stock or bonds...THIS IS BITCOIN.



Real Banksy

[ As in prank] or [Maybe not]

Yes I totally agree that bitcoin gives us a freedom. In past months many country are trying ban bitcoin but they didn't succeed to stop the price hike of bitcoin.
I love bitcoin and may it continue to grows.


Title: Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: TTITA on October 11, 2017, 12:32:43 AM

today many people already believe in bitcoin
few parties who want to be crushed bitcoin will only waste their own time


Title: Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: sicparvismagna on October 11, 2017, 12:47:00 AM
This still use as a medium of exchange there is no denying of the uncanny abilities of human when it comes to that they use as beyond their purpose . But still it depends upon the people regarding how they use it. In line with the above things you mention regarding investing, earning and etc. It is what made bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: Cherylstar86 on October 11, 2017, 01:02:29 AM
I saw many people here wondering what to do with Bitcoin, hold, sell, invest...The scams, the ugly side of people.

Just remember couple of years ago, the FBI and the Federal Reserve tried to kill it, and now we are talking or near $250 Billion capital.

In next few years it will reach $1 Trillion.

MAN THE FUCK UP! This is not money, this is not commodity! This is not a stock or bonds...THIS IS BITCOIN.



Real Banksy

[ As in prank] or [Maybe not]

Yes I totally agree that bitcoin gives us a freedom. In past months many country are trying ban bitcoin but they didn't succeed to stop the price hike of bitcoin.
I love bitcoin and may it continue to grows.
It surely will continue its victory in the world of cryptocurrency. I also can say that bitcoin gives us freedom in the sense that many of us are suffering from financial instability. We work hard everyday just to earn for a living and for survival we even work late at night just to have additional payment or salary. We deprive ourselves from sleeping just to provide the needs and wants for our family and this is a challenge for us to have freedom if we know how to manage our time regardless of the kind of job we are in. Difficult yet have have to for the benefit of our love ones.


Title: Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: julius caesar on October 11, 2017, 01:06:11 AM
That's why I always will believe in bitcoin. Even if the governments will dissalow it, there will still be a rebelling group trying to hold it up.

Yes I believe too, having its characteristic of being decentralized it is the only way for us to be free in government, means they are not allowed to take control in bitcoin since it is written over its system, I dont think making bitcoin centralized will help us, it will be a burden of every forum user her to gain if are about to think for its change. Bitcoin is freedom in the sense that it allow us to have the peofit we deserve without going into several steps unlike what governments usually do.


Title: Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: cryp24x on October 11, 2017, 01:10:31 AM
That's why I always will believe in bitcoin. Even if the governments will dissalow it, there will still be a rebelling group trying to hold it up.

Yes I believe too, having its characteristic of being decentralized it is the only way for us to be free in government, means they are not allowed to take control in bitcoin since it is written over its system, I dont think making bitcoin centralized will help us, it will be a burden of every forum user her to gain if are about to think for its change. Bitcoin is freedom in the sense that it allow us to have the peofit we deserve without going into several steps unlike what governments usually do.

Freedom? Just like anonymous, Bitcoin cannot be adopted worldwide without government regulation.  Remember no matter how decentralized the cryptocurrency is when the government requires them to be regulated, they will be regulated.  Bitcoin maybe independent but once it enters certain jurisdiction, it must comply to the government policy in order for it to be used there freely.  Freedom in Bitcoin is just like its anonymity, it is partial and must meet government rules and restriction, maybe adaptive but not really a full freedom because there is an authority above it to either restrict it or allow it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: Sskapollo7 on October 11, 2017, 01:38:40 AM
When it comes to freedom, Bitcoin in itself creates the trust to adopt it. Though few years back federal reserve bank tried to kill it but the people are taking over back and rising the age of bitcoin


Title: Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: madwica on October 11, 2017, 01:40:30 AM
That's why I always will believe in bitcoin. Even if the governments will dissalow it, there will still be a rebelling group trying to hold it up.

Yes I believe too, having its characteristic of being decentralized it is the only way for us to be free in government, means they are not allowed to take control in bitcoin since it is written over its system, I dont think making bitcoin centralized will help us, it will be a burden of every forum user her to gain if are about to think for its change. Bitcoin is freedom in the sense that it allow us to have the peofit we deserve without going into several steps unlike what governments usually do.

Freedom? Just like anonymous, Bitcoin cannot be adopted worldwide without government regulation.  Remember no matter how decentralized the cryptocurrency is when the government requires them to be regulated, they will be regulated.  Bitcoin maybe independent but once it enters certain jurisdiction, it must comply to the government policy in order for it to be used there freely.  Freedom in Bitcoin is just like its anonymity, it is partial and must meet government rules and restriction, maybe adaptive but not really a full freedom because there is an authority above it to either restrict it or allow it.
Yes bitcoin has freedom to used and adopt by anyone, if you say that bitcoin cannot adopted worldwide it is depending on the discretion of their government because bitcoin allowed all people to access it, no age limit, no requirement that is why for me i can say that bitcoin as in freedom.
Being decentralized currency is not mean that it will not fully adopted world wide, there is always a possibility that each government will look for its legality in their county because bitcoin would be a huge help to make people sustain their financial needs and make their family have freedom financially.


Title: Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: Mister1k on October 11, 2017, 02:16:58 AM
I remember reading a quote "If we wanna get some justice back into our society, we should reduce the importance of the Banks. Bitcoin is banking without banks, so here we go"
So one form of freedom is that we must be able to escape from dependence on the bank, and bitcoin present at this time to offer it.
I think bitcoin is not accepting all the shopping. So we must converting BTC to dollar, then we depending on bank only. But bitcoin is easy to transacting our convenience.It reduce our work easily, This like one kind of freedom and easy to learning many of the updates


Title: Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: DreamIsland on October 11, 2017, 02:57:23 AM
indeed you are right it bitcoin is legalizet.then the country gets a profit especially plowed,ekonomical and binding purchasing power of the people and reducing
unemploymen.


Title: Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: makishart on October 11, 2017, 03:13:56 AM
That's why I always will believe in bitcoin. Even if the governments will dissalow it, there will still be a rebelling group trying to hold it up.

Yes I believe too, having its characteristic of being decentralized it is the only way for us to be free in government, means they are not allowed to take control in bitcoin since it is written over its system, I dont think making bitcoin centralized will help us, it will be a burden of every forum user her to gain if are about to think for its change. Bitcoin is freedom in the sense that it allow us to have the peofit we deserve without going into several steps unlike what governments usually do.

Freedom? Just like anonymous, Bitcoin cannot be adopted worldwide without government regulation.  Remember no matter how decentralized the cryptocurrency is when the government requires them to be regulated, they will be regulated.  Bitcoin maybe independent but once it enters certain jurisdiction, it must comply to the government policy in order for it to be used there freely.  Freedom in Bitcoin is just like its anonymity, it is partial and must meet government rules and restriction, maybe adaptive but not really a full freedom because there is an authority above it to either restrict it or allow it.
But see now, some of governments have started to look into bitcoin and trying to regulate it more, whether they'll stand on bitcoin side or just simply ban the bitcoin, it's up to the government but atleast, once bitcoin accepted into a country and can get through the regulation, the popularity will boost up.


Title: Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: Cranidos on October 11, 2017, 03:49:36 AM
I really don't get your point like the guy above... If you have just invested in btc and trying to motivate some people to invest in it (so that it won't die if I invest my last 3$ in), we are already hyped about it in the forum. Obviously ;D Try your facebook profile for such motivational talk maybe lol


Same here,  I just cannot understand what this man is pointing about bitcoin. I think he just want to have something to post in this forum. Or maybe he just want to motivate people to invest on bitcoin. But it is the wrong forum if that so. You were that he should post it in his facebook.


Title: Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: dipok07 on October 11, 2017, 03:53:32 AM
Bitcoin has become quite popular. Every economic lal place is using Bitcoin for most of the work. It is popular for free transactions.


Title: Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: audaciousbeing on October 11, 2017, 04:24:22 AM
I saw many people here wondering what to do with Bitcoin, hold, sell, invest...The scams, the ugly side of people.

Just remember couple of years ago, the FBI and the Federal Reserve tried to kill it, and now we are talking or near $250 Billion capital.

In next few years it will reach $1 Trillion.

MAN THE FUCK UP! This is not money, this is not commodity! This is not a stock or bonds...THIS IS BITCOIN.



Real Banksy

[ As in prank] or [Maybe not]


There is a saying that "freedom is not given, it is taken" and thats that opportunity that bitcoin offers anyone who is ready to take that freedom. The chance is there but it won't be forced on anyone who is not ready because that will be going against the freedom it promises.

However, freedom is not absolute and at same time, its not unlimited. That is why we must enjoy that freedom within the confines of the law and not abuse the freedom for impunity because the bigger arm of the law is watching that alone is evident in the series of conviction about people who abuse the freedom by engaging in fraudulent activities.


Title: Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: trecore4 on October 11, 2017, 05:19:51 AM
Yes the freedom which no currency or commodity can give us after this era. There is nothing can be done like the bitcoin because up until now there was no system like decentralised algorithm or blockchain on which the whole thing is growing.


Don't know how the countries will try to regulate it but if they do then our freedom won't last for much longer than this. The regulations always sucks in to public interest and they always let the people's choice down. So better pray nothing like that happens in first place to keep our bitcoin literally valid!





Title: Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: sydcrypt on October 11, 2017, 05:29:39 AM
BTC would have its real value when things stabalize and the whole world adopts it and directly deals in it... but right now I don't see it as a currency but rather as a commodity whose price may rise or fall according to market demand. Our fiat currency is still what we can call it "ours" as it doesnt fluctuate or even fall further as the amount that we possess is wat it is.. so currency is wat we can have faith on.


Title: Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: 777Bitcoin on October 11, 2017, 05:37:23 AM
Freedom for now.

But Until when? the government sector is now moving in the open to stop that freedom in is to a regulation they been planning for. It is such a headache for all of us in the future as corruption may take place as curropt public officials are be part of it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin as in Freedom
Post by: Nakakapagpabagabag on October 11, 2017, 12:25:11 PM
I saw many people here wondering what to do with Bitcoin, hold, sell, invest...The scams, the ugly side of people.

Just remember couple of years ago, the FBI and the Federal Reserve tried to kill it, and now we are talking or near $250 Billion capital.

In next few years it will reach $1 Trillion.

MAN THE FUCK UP! This is not money, this is not commodity! This is not a stock or bonds...THIS IS BITCOIN.



Real Banksy

[ As in prank] or [Maybe not]


Many people really want to destroy or terminate the service bitcoin gives to every person who uses it. There are often people who dislike this so people get angry at bitcoin so they can not use it. But others still fail to remove pure bitcoiners, when said bitcoin? The money is talked about here, everyone needs money so everyone will get the job to earn it. Bitcoin is more trustworthy than any other work, it is more reliable than ever.