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If someone here says China, then man I am sorry to tell you, that you are one of the Pigs, Bulls Make Money, Bears Make Money, Pigs Get Slaughtered.

So lets see what we have:

1- USA opening new doors for BTC..Will not happen.

2- Europe..Just keep moving!

3- Japan..Maybe will push it above $5000.

4- Russia? No.

5- Gulf states? Maybe will push it above $5500

6- Financial melt down another 2008, or 1920...Here is your $10,000, which will happen, and thank you Trump!

Do you now understand why Chinese gov keeps spreading rumors? and lower the price to buy more?

Another 2008? Wow you see that coming very soon? Like in 2018? or 2019? Because we will have something major in 2022 for sure.

You are wrong... The moment when the USA change it's definition from Bitcoin being a commodity to being a currency, we

will not just see $10 000, but rather go far beyond that. Russia is also large enough to see a significant price increase if the

Russian government finally embrace Bitcoin, like Japan did. I think India will be the next country who would make up their

mind about Bitcoin, and when this happens... we will go even further past $10 000 per bitcoin.  ;)

Probably geopolitical instability, with growing concern about economic crisis and fiat money printing.

Regardless of geography, wherever local fiat crashes BTC goes UP.  It might be that if BTC hits 25,000.00 all else will be so bad it might not be a good thing.  I'll take my chances though and ride BTC in both directions hoping the trend is upward.  Since 2010 BTC has been quite a ride.  A few times I was nervous as can be, but I stuck in and didn't sell.  Glad for that now!

I think money printing by the world's central banks will propel bitcoin's price, as people grow concerned over excessive fiat currency. So bitcoin will be an alternative with a stable supply. Also, global investors will chase growth - which bitcoin has.

You said it's not Europe. I wouldn't be that sure. With brexit, migrants that some EU countries refuse to take are flooding France and Germany, killing and raping, while those idiots are inviting more... I think we can see another big crisis in Europe very soon.
As for that 10k, It's just a matter of time anyway.

All this reasons that you have mentioned are mainly political and I don't think that politics influence Bitcoin price that much. It does in some indirect way but this is not something that would push the price up or down on long term. And 10000$ from this point of view doesn't look that close, first we have to come to 5000$ again and then we'll see.

I agree with you. India has just now entered into the digital world.Digitalisation has been increasing in India nowadays.

Even hotels and small tea stalls in Indian villages accepting digital currencies like Paytm etc. It is just started and will grow much.

More over Blockchain.info has started accepting Indian currency.So we can expect direct transactions of INR-BTC easily.

Several exchanges have started like Unocoin, Zebpay which helps easy transactions between Indian currency and Bitcoin.

So finally if not China it will be India. Don't worry. India is there to back up Bitcoin.

You are definitely right!
When times goes by, In the future, there must be a big 2008 or 1920...... and the clock alarm is gonna sounded!

I would vote for Japan and other tech countries adaptation over BTC and other cryptocurrencies will surely push the BTC market to an all time high. Nowadays, even an announcement will be supported as well as gets investments.

I think yes this is possible and if there will be financial meltdown, billion of fiat might move into bitcoin market cap pumping its price like hell.

Gross national debt of USA just crossed $20 trillion which is a shocking number.  :o :o

the Chinese government spread the dark rumors obtained by the developed countries of the government support the people to prosper the people not the politics including managing the money control strategy

Demand. More and more people wants to own bitcoins. More and more people in the world wants to be free from governments. Crypto is the only way (unless you wanna carry 200kg of gold in a backpack)

more acceptance as payment and more easy to use for a normal person who understands little of the crypto universe but wants to be involved

This will not happened! You don't know how the U.S Fed works, nor how the financial sector in the U.S.

No one cares what India will do (with respect to all my Indian friends)


You need something big! Something to force Bitcoin from a commodity to become a currency as you said.

My friend who is a photographer in hawaii learned about bit coin about 3 years ago because a lot of her Japanese clients wanted to pay her in bitcoin.

i can not decide if this is FUD or just an overly pessimistic view!

China has always been a big player and it will remain that. don't read the English bullshit-news too much, they have nothing against bitcoin.
and no China alone won't be reason for rise nor fall.

neither US nor any European countries ever closed any doors on bitcoin to want to open it now. there is a lot of adoption, specially in US, but if any decent regulations like Japan take place it can be a big step forwards. and it WILL happen in time.

Japan was the reason for the big rise of this year and it will continue increase the adoption, specially now that they have also removed taxes from bitcoin payments.

LOL, why not?

they are also coming in these days. there have been increased interest among them towards bitcoin, not just because of the price but also because bitcoin is a global money which they can use oversees easily and the cheapest way possible.

people have been waiting for "financial melt downs" for as long as i can remember and they used to say bitcoin will rise because of it ever since it was $200 and started with bitcoin.

and not only "financial melt downs" never happened but bitcoin price went nearly to $5000 without it! and will continue to do so.

i did not know Coindesk, cryptocoinnews, news.bitcoin.com,... and others like bloomberg, CNN,.... belong to China. good to know.
because the real news in Chinese has no mention of the rumors on any of above links!

No these are not Chinese Media, but they are Fed media which will always find someone to blame, and make it front page! Does that mean China is a good player? No, it benefits from it.

I used to think along the same lines, but nowadays I'm not so sure anymore.

People tend to be more risk averse during bear markets, so with the current situation I think BTC would simply crash along with the rest of the markets -- similar to how the alt coins bleed whenever BTC is hit. I think to be deemed a proper hedge during times of financial crisis, BTC will need to reach USD 10k,- first and stay there for a couple years. Only then will it be seen as an asset as trustworthy as gold, any sooner than that I'm doubtful about BTC's viability as a recession hedge.

I would say around 2020-something too. The bond market is going to collapse and geopolitical situation with North Korea and so on will just keep getting worse. Add in the materialization of the brexit, add in Euro collapse... so many bullish reasons for BTC, and this is not considering the technological improvements that are coming such as lightning network, finally allowing everyone on the planet to transact BTC, or sidechains, rendering all alts useless.

BTC is going $100,000 next decade, forget $10,000. Trump will try to avoid the bond market crash for as long as possible but they can't stop this, nobody can.

The other question then will be: Does it even make sense to change BTC into FIAT, when the price per coin hits 100k.
If the adaption reaches a point like in Swiss where they start to accept tax payments in Bitcoin. Why should I ever convert into paper money?

We should stop thinking about it as currency or as commodity

In my opinion if the november drama will be over the price will climb above 10 k $. We need to solve the Segwit x2 issue and the price will rise.

Totally agreeing!

lol I don't think it will be hittin 10k this year, is just a matter of time for bitcoin to rise but ain't going to hit that much this year.

Right now none can clearly say what's the real factor that's gonna push the price reach $100000 or even higher. But the adoption and the increased usage for regular needs will surely contribute a large to the bitcoin price to grow. Apart from that when the adoption takes place as a whole same as the Japan, Australia and so on, we can expect this to happen in lesser time period.

if those well established countries showed their big support about this system it would be another thing for china, as of now we are seeing their influence
but after that and support still becoming bigger from other places might be a turning point for bitcoin to pushed and jumped up to that level, we just needed to support and keep using it a currency not just an investment.

No, not 2017, we will see $5000 this year, but $10,000 I strongly believe we will see that once Trump fucks it up! and he will!

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Bitcoin reached 10 thousand and even more as it was ( and it is) extremely popular crypto and many people believe into it.