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Title: Do ICO coin really worth like they claim ??
Post by: dasgardo87 on September 12, 2017, 10:45:31 PM
Hi can someone tell me if ICO coin really worth like they claim ??


i mean lets said some ICO coin sell 1000 coin (100% total supply) for 1 billion USD, at the end days of selling they claimed they already sell all of them.

my question:

how we know that they are not lied to us? i mean if its not clearly visible to stranger like us, the total capital the developer have before the ICO day and after the ICO end, isn't very hard just to tell that they already sell all of them when actually maybe they just can sell 0.0001% total supply coin??


please if someone have the answer please let me knows, actually for now i am not fans of ICO coin since many thing are not really clear for me atm, i hope some answer can make me see ICO coin in good ways,

anyway thank you for reading and comment on my thread :)


Title: Re: Do ICO coin really worth like they claim ??
Post by: cenicsoft on September 12, 2017, 11:01:09 PM
If it's an Ethereum token, then you can see how many coins have been issued using the token's contract address. However, it doesn't necessary show how much money they've collected if they sell tokens for other cryptocurrencies and fiat or giveaway as part of a promotional campaign.

Knowing how many tokens have been distributed and to how many difference addresses is a good indicator of the reach of the token sale.


Title: Re: Do ICO coin really worth like they claim ??
Post by: gidaahmad on September 12, 2017, 11:19:50 PM
Each ICO has a program objective. Well, every ICO has a price that can be considered cheap or expensive. ICO's program is very important for the future. Honestly I also can not predict, how an ICO will succeed or fail. And right now I see ICO from the side of the program that has been planned by the developers of an ICO.


Title: Re: Do ICO coin really worth like they claim ??
Post by: solarrobot on September 12, 2017, 11:24:24 PM
This is the problem with ICO's
They make promises, but if they aren't structured well (and 99% are not) then there is absolutely no oversite on the money or the development. Don't particpate in an ICO if you don't know what you are doing, and don't know how to read carefully into legal talk. Beyond that, whitepapers which accompany most ICO's are just a form of marketing, and are ultimately empty promises.


Title: Re: Do ICO coin really worth like they claim ??
Post by: Youghoor on September 12, 2017, 11:49:22 PM
Almost all the icos are just the same, they promise to make all their users millionaires (maybe billionaires too) by only investing 1 eth in their company, and this is how it works. Their founds are gonna be wealthy for only make a new altcoin, maybe they keep 4% or 5% of all the company coins, and that is more than enough to have a lot of money.
all of them makes promises, you only have to choose the most "realistic" one.


Title: Re: Do ICO coin really worth like they claim ??
Post by: zidorov on September 13, 2017, 08:53:41 AM
Yes, I would agree with the statements above, especially with the fact thats token are just promises. Actually, there's been a  good article about the nature of ICO and tokens  (https://blog.dolphin.bi/ico-paradoxes-1-805c02ae6ddb). I think it pretty much explaines how they differ from regular investments.

But as for the promise of 'untold fortunes' you just have to look carefully in project's white paper, project's team, many of them have chats in Telegram, so you might as well be able to talk to them, ask detailed questions and see how people would react. And most importantly, they should provide an explaination why their token will rise. You know, its crucial for the investors - to be confident that the team knows what to do and that there will be reasons for the currency to grow and, therefore, earn them money.


Title: Re: Do ICO coin really worth like they claim ??
Post by: crysttn on September 13, 2017, 09:08:52 AM
What many people tend to overlook in the crypto market is looking at the businesses behind the coins. It is much like penny stocks, there are great chances to make money due to high volatility, but you just gotta do your research. Thanks to the blockchains being public, the crypto market is more transparent.


Title: Re: Do ICO coin really worth like they claim ??
Post by: Invester on September 13, 2017, 09:09:08 AM
As far as I know projects offering their coins through an ICO have a token supply. That is reflected in their whitepaper and website. If during the ICO the entire token supply is sold it is reflected according to how they plan to distribute the tokens if you add them all up. If the tokens are not a sold out and they decide to burn, the token supply will also decrease.


Title: Re: Do ICO coin really worth like they claim ??
Post by: Morphling on September 13, 2017, 09:33:42 AM
it depends on how you judge the worth, most coins will return ico participaters huge profits as the market is hot this year, form this point of view, they are worth like they claim, on the other hand, most projects are scams, their coins worth nothing as the projects shut down


Title: Re: Do ICO coin really worth like they claim ??
Post by: vasrasus on September 13, 2017, 09:50:01 AM
it depends on how you judge the worth, most coins will return ico participaters huge profits as the market is hot this year, form this point of view, they are worth like they claim, on the other hand, most projects are scams, their coins worth nothing as the projects shut down
Well it depends on the project,some project were really worth having for like Encryptotel and ICOnomi before. But these days they are too plenty to identify which iC will be successful.


Title: Re: Do ICO coin really worth like they claim ??
Post by: tanghere02 on September 13, 2017, 09:56:09 AM
I really think it depends on the success of the ICO because before the ICO starts they make promises that the certain token will be worth something but what happens most of the time is that the ICO tokens value would drop down after it had been distributed, if some ICO's were successful even after the ICO the tendency would be it'll increase its value after a few months. And I agree with the comments before me, ICO tokens are all promises.


Title: Re: Do ICO coin really worth like they claim ??
Post by: konco_kenthel on September 13, 2017, 10:06:52 AM
Sometimes events we did not think of could happen for example, at the beginning of the total campaign offer that had been created suddenly changed quickly at the end of the campaign. so in fact we can only accept information with patience only.


Title: Re: Do ICO coin really worth like they claim ??
Post by: gulshan1 on September 13, 2017, 10:12:40 AM
Some ico are listed on some exchange currently and where ICO running and giving coins to the participant. in these days 1 Bounty is running with the name of deeponion which is giving so many coins example 300 to 1500 coins to participant every week and this AirDrop will be run up to the 2019. And you can check the union coin price at the Nova exchange which is showing approximately $1 minimum and which is a proof that these ico really claimed by partipant.


Title: Re: Do ICO coin really worth like they claim ??
Post by: omnik on September 13, 2017, 10:43:12 AM
it depends on how you judge the worth, most coins will return ico participaters huge profits as the market is hot this year, form this point of view, they are worth like they claim, on the other hand, most projects are scams, their coins worth nothing as the projects shut down
Well it depends on the project,some project were really worth having for like Encryptotel and ICOnomi before. But these days they are too plenty to identify which iC will be successful.
Encryptotel is just another crappy project, i remember the hackers tried to hack the encryptotel and some amount already stolen, iconomi has a good team behind that a lot of the increase foro its price and ett was nothing in this time.


Title: Re: Do ICO coin really worth like they claim ??
Post by: davey76 on September 13, 2017, 10:51:31 AM
If you want to be save and on the other side like to gamble a little: invest in as many ICO's that appear to be well organized. If 10% of them prove to become very valuable in the future you will make a big profit. The others that don't give you value, see them as a loss. Just don't invest in just one.


Title: Re: Do ICO coin really worth like they claim ??
Post by: dasgardo87 on September 26, 2017, 01:39:10 PM
If you want to be save and on the other side like to gamble a little: invest in as many ICO's that appear to be well organized. If 10% of them prove to become very valuable in the future you will make a big profit. The others that don't give you value, see them as a loss. Just don't invest in just one.

agree with your statement, dont put all eggs in one basket , i just invest in 3 crypto, 2 coin and 1 asset ICO my target were 3 months hope when its already 3 months it will turn green


Title: Re: Do ICO coin really worth like they claim ??
Post by: lobo13hf on September 26, 2017, 01:44:11 PM
Using blockchain, you can easily trace the movement of their tokens, if there's something strange happen, you can make an act.
that's why many projects often publicly said that they lock up some percent of allocation and can be unlocked after 1 year or more. so, they can't just sell all of the token when just announcing that they only sell 0.0001% of all token.


Title: Re: Do ICO coin really worth like they claim ??
Post by: Arkann on September 27, 2017, 03:26:59 AM
Indeed, some new coins issued during the ICO are traded at a price that is understated compared to the one that was planned during the preparation and conduct of the ICO. There are, of course, mistakes in planning, but one can not exclude the fact that some campaigns specifically overestimate the price of the forthcoming ionite for the release in order to increase its attractiveness.


Title: Re: Do ICO coin really worth like they claim ??
Post by: okissabam on September 27, 2017, 03:34:31 AM
That's one of the downsides of ICO project when they make promises. But most of the ICO's I've come across with so far are all successful and are currently working on their project to be more successful in the real world. And they constantly update because I mostly folLow them through social media to see what the developers are up to after the ICO. There are some worth as they claim but there are also some that are not.


Title: Re: Do ICO coin really worth like they claim ??
Post by: thepo1m on September 27, 2017, 04:46:51 AM
The only proof will have to verify this claims is the blockchain but it is possible also to more the money around too just by speaking to some whales, my main concern is that they do sell most of this tokens to their clicks and with time start unloading them on gullible investors


Title: Re: Do ICO coin really worth like they claim ??
Post by: pey on September 27, 2017, 05:04:34 AM
It just depends on how much money they want, most tokens can easily fall below ico price so most ones are already overpriced in ico. You should evaluate them.


Title: Re: Do ICO coin really worth like they claim ??
Post by: waynechong1995 on September 27, 2017, 06:07:13 AM
Always double confirm on their contract address if it was built on eth, look at their supply does it reflect what they said


Title: Re: Do ICO coin really worth like they claim ??
Post by: cryptothinker on September 27, 2017, 06:14:11 AM
Hi can someone tell me if ICO coin really worth like they claim ??


i mean lets said some ICO coin sell 1000 coin (100% total supply) for 1 billion USD, at the end days of selling they claimed they already sell all of them.

my question:

how we know that they are not lied to us? i mean if its not clearly visible to stranger like us, the total capital the developer have before the ICO day and after the ICO end, isn't very hard just to tell that they already sell all of them when actually maybe they just can sell 0.0001% total supply coin??


please if someone have the answer please let me knows, actually for now i am not fans of ICO coin since many thing are not really clear for me atm, i hope some answer can make me see ICO coin in good ways,

anyway thank you for reading and comment on my thread :)
That's the point. You don't know.
You don't even know if they created thousands of addresses to create a false sense of interest. (unless, of course, they use unusual transparency mechanisms, like real world identities)


Title: Re: Do ICO coin really worth like they claim ??
Post by: babsjoe on September 27, 2017, 06:19:15 AM
Just like any business, the value produced or persive is the same value accorded! If ICO has a decent community and there is consensus on the value place on it, then the ICO is valuable


Title: Re: Do ICO coin really worth like they claim ??
Post by: Yuhee on September 27, 2017, 06:31:50 AM
Just like any business, the value produced or persive is the same value accorded! If ICO has a decent community and there is consensus on the value place on it, then the ICO is valuable

It could also be scheme to invite many local traders to buy their coin. But i could understand that before boldly selling of releasing the coin, they invited some rich fellows, showed the project they are about to propose, because to have such project they would need investors and a team and they had already spent much money just by announcing that they have there own coin to release.


Title: Re: Do ICO coin really worth like they claim ??
Post by: publicjud on September 27, 2017, 06:44:40 AM
I think that only 2% will become successful, 8% won't reach they goals and will be collapsed in 2-5 years. The rest is just SCAM!


Title: Re: Do ICO coin really worth like they claim ??
Post by: Lumada on September 27, 2017, 07:47:33 AM
I think that only 2% will become successful, 8% won't reach they goals and will be collapsed in 2-5 years. The rest is just SCAM!
The trust rate of Ico were getting more too low as more ICO were launching and some get failed. If only Oco cam be filtered it woll be much easy to choose were to invest.  Bit there are still ICO worth investing still.