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Title: EXTRA EXTRA: China NOT Banning Bitcoin Exchanges After All!? WTF!? Post by: cryptocamacho on September 14, 2017, 06:15:11 AM Can you believe this... not even the Chinese can resist the allure of Bitcoin (or realize they don't have a choice). They say that they will ban ICOs, then regulate. They say they will ban crypto exchanges, then they regulate. They may be realizing that pandora's box has been opened. Blockchain isn't going anywhere. The game is over.
So..... Meanwhile, back in government labs.... "How can we stop this?? Let's ban it! Wait, we can't....okay let's try to regulate it then" - classic land grab attempt. That is the beauty. That is the power of crypto. That is the power of Bitcoin. We've just begun folks.... Enjoy the ride. Here is the article - for your reading pleasure: https://themerkle.com/chinese-bitcoin-exchanges-will-likely-not-be-banned-after-all/ Title: Re: EXTRA EXTRA: China NOT Banning Bitcoin Exchanges After All!? WTF!? Post by: Scorpion on September 14, 2017, 06:35:48 AM You're exactly right about that! Blockchain is here to stay whether it be Bitcoin or whatever is out there, but Bitcoin is always going to be strongest blockchain. Even a giant government like China can't ban Bitcoin exchanges. Title: Re: EXTRA EXTRA: China NOT Banning Bitcoin Exchanges After All!? WTF!? Post by: fanbeila on September 14, 2017, 06:46:27 AM So,china has only the idea of regulating bitcoin exchanges with strict rules and to temporarily suspend the licenses of those exchanges which do not have AML and KYC strictly implemented.Surely,it would be a great relief for bitcoin from the price fall and price would once again soon recover.It seems that the three big exchanges OKCOIN,HUOBI and BTCC would be granted licence to trade bitcoin continuously.So,buy as much bitcoins as you can before the price skyrockets.
Title: Re: EXTRA EXTRA: China NOT Banning Bitcoin Exchanges After All!? WTF!? Post by: harryyjjones on September 14, 2017, 06:51:41 AM Bitcoin is supposed to be anonymous. And KYC is exact opposite of that notion.
PS: I don;t have anything against AML policy. Harry Title: Re: EXTRA EXTRA: China NOT Banning Bitcoin Exchanges After All!? WTF!? Post by: peter0425 on September 14, 2017, 06:58:18 AM So,china has only the idea of regulating bitcoin exchanges with strict rules and to temporarily suspend the licenses of those exchanges which do not have AML and KYC strictly implemented.Surely,it would be a great relief for bitcoin from the price fall and price would once again soon recover.It seems that the three big exchanges OKCOIN,HUOBI and BTCC would be granted licence to trade bitcoin continuously.So,buy as much bitcoins as you can before the price skyrockets. The three big exchanges as far as I can remember has been complying already since they were caught doing fake volume transactions around Jan-Feb and was allowed to function again in March. But PBoC has laid down the regulations needed and anyone caught again will be fined with heavy penalties. That's why we don't see them confirming the news that they are going to be shut down by the government. But already have seen the devastation of the China news to the market. But yeah, everybody should buy while bitcoin is cheap, we might see it rise again next week and that window to buy maybe be missed by some. Title: Re: EXTRA EXTRA: China NOT Banning Bitcoin Exchanges After All!? WTF!? Post by: CryptoBry on September 14, 2017, 07:00:55 AM Bitcoin is supposed to be anonymous. And KYC is exact opposite of that notion. PS: I don;t have anything against AML policy. Harry In a perfect world, there should be no KYC to be imposed and maybe I would surmise that maybe we don't need Bitcoin in the first place but the problem is that we are in an imperfect world where people can be taking advantage of each other and can use any platform for their own evil purpose. I am not saying that the government imposing exchanges to do KYC is perfect but certainly we have to understand that there are also basis why they are imposing that rule...it is because human as we are we may abuse the platform given to us. Now, back to the main story, I have been telling others that eventually China would be back on the table this time around it would be bringing and imposing stricter rules for all to follow. The government is always knowing that cryptocurrency is also bringing in money into the country and certainly it can be a partner for growth, after all. Cryptocurrency can all live without China but it would China's loss it they will close their doors into this new platform...a revolutionary and life-changing platform. Title: Re: EXTRA EXTRA: China NOT Banning Bitcoin Exchanges After All!? WTF!? Post by: TravelMug on September 14, 2017, 07:15:26 AM Bitcoin is supposed to be anonymous. And KYC is exact opposite of that notion. PS: I don;t have anything against AML policy. Harry Bitcoin is pseudo anonymous. And I think the basis for the KYC/AML implementation by the government is to combat illegal activities associated with using bitcoin. I also don't see China totally banning bitcoin but will put up a stricter regulations and exchanges should comply with a tighten policies. They can't ignore bitcoin in their country since they are one of the prime movers specially in the mining industry. And I'm assuming the bitcoin is really huge is China and almost in mainland already know what is like to invest in bitcoin. It's their citizens that will really have a negative impact if they really goes anti-bitcoin now. And bitcoin market can still flourish if China will be out of the picture. Title: Re: EXTRA EXTRA: China NOT Banning Bitcoin Exchanges After All!? WTF!? Post by: RawDog on September 14, 2017, 07:38:09 AM Bitcoin is supposed to be anonymous. And KYC is exact opposite of that notion. This is totally incorrect. Bitcoin was never meant to be anonymous. Some users mistakenly believed that it was and they tried to use that to their advantage and now live in prison for the rest of their lives. Just because the address isn't the user's name, doesn't make it anonymous. Satoshi never meant the address system to conceal identity. In fact, it does just the opposite. The blockchain leaves a perfect and indelible paper trail that lasts forever and cannot be destroyed. 'supposed to be anonymous' is totally incorrect.PS: I don;t have anything against AML policy. Harry Title: Re: EXTRA EXTRA: China NOT Banning Bitcoin Exchanges After All!? WTF!? Post by: illyiller on September 14, 2017, 07:45:34 AM Can you believe this... not even the Chinese can resist the allure of Bitcoin (or realize they don't have a choice). They say that they will ban ICOs, then regulate. They say they will ban crypto exchanges, then they regulate. They may be realizing that pandora's box has been opened. Blockchain isn't going anywhere. The game is over. So..... Meanwhile, back in government labs.... "How can we stop this?? Let's ban it! Wait, we can't....okay let's try to regulate it then" - classic land grab attempt. This is nothing new. China did this in 2014 too, reinforcing the ~$1200 top for years to come. This time around, they have less effect on the markets, though. I think that many people saw this coming; it doesn't make sense to shut down the exchanges, putting their future financial sector (and really, their population) at a disadvantage to the rest of the world. With the value of cryptocurrencies rising so much, capital flight becomes a bigger issue for the Chinese government. They want stricter regulation and KYC procedures to keep people from violating their annual capital outflow quotas. Title: Re: EXTRA EXTRA: China NOT Banning Bitcoin Exchanges After All!? WTF!? Post by: cryptocamacho on September 14, 2017, 03:13:00 PM Bitcoin is supposed to be anonymous. And KYC is exact opposite of that notion. This is totally incorrect. Bitcoin was never meant to be anonymous. Some users mistakenly believed that it was and they tried to use that to their advantage and now live in prison for the rest of their lives. Just because the address isn't the user's name, doesn't make it anonymous. Satoshi never meant the address system to conceal identity. In fact, it does just the opposite. The blockchain leaves a perfect and indelible paper trail that lasts forever and cannot be destroyed. 'supposed to be anonymous' is totally incorrect.PS: I don;t have anything against AML policy. Harry Yes, and this is why we have Monero... which is in fact replacing bitcoin almost 100% on the Darknet. Why? Because it is truley Anonymoust. Boom! Title: Re: EXTRA EXTRA: China NOT Banning Bitcoin Exchanges After All!? WTF!? Post by: finthebar on September 14, 2017, 03:28:49 PM My head is still spinning.........
Title: Re: EXTRA EXTRA: China NOT Banning Bitcoin Exchanges After All!? WTF!? Post by: BrewMaster on September 14, 2017, 03:37:50 PM Bitcoin is supposed to be anonymous. And KYC is exact opposite of that notion. PS: I don;t have anything against AML policy. Harry exchange service =/= bitcoin the AML KYC laws are for "money" it is called Know Your Customer to follow Anti Money Laundry laws. and that is MONEY laundry and exchanges are tightly associated with "money" so they must be tightly regulated too. and that IS what has been going on. Title: Re: EXTRA EXTRA: China NOT Banning Bitcoin Exchanges After All!? WTF!? Post by: hitlab on September 14, 2017, 03:42:43 PM This article was from yesterday.
However today BTCC confirmed they will be shutting down on 30th September https://twitter.com/YourBTCC/status/908285586368167936 (https://twitter.com/YourBTCC/status/908285586368167936) It is possible they got some insider info about what the chinese govt is going to do next, because there is no way they will close down a profitable exchange based on a rumor. Title: Re: EXTRA EXTRA: China NOT Banning Bitcoin Exchanges After All!? WTF!? Post by: cryptocamacho on September 14, 2017, 03:45:30 PM This article was from yesterday. However today BTCC confirmed they will be shutting down on 30th September https://twitter.com/YourBTCC/status/908285586368167936 (https://twitter.com/YourBTCC/status/908285586368167936) It is possible they got some insider info about what the chinese govt is going to do next, because there is no way they will close down a profitable exchange based on a rumor. Yes, please talk to my uncle Zshing Tao on the matter.... He'll spill all of China's secrets for 5 BTC. Let me know if you want the deposit address. :) Title: Re: EXTRA EXTRA: China NOT Banning Bitcoin Exchanges After All!? WTF!? Post by: Kprawn on September 14, 2017, 03:55:58 PM My theory is this : The Chinese government are secret buying a bunch of bitcoins on the dip they caused. You create doubt and
fear and buy cheap coins on the side. They most probably anticipate a break out soon and they want to buy as many bitcoins as possible in the shortest time possible. It might not be evident in the Chinese exchanges, but we might be seeing this distributed across other global exchanges. ??? Title: Re: EXTRA EXTRA: China NOT Banning Bitcoin Exchanges After All!? WTF!? Post by: cryptocamacho on September 14, 2017, 05:00:26 PM With the value of cryptocurrencies rising so much, capital flight becomes a bigger issue for the Chinese government. They want stricter regulation and KYC procedures to keep people from violating their annual capital outflow quotas. Exactly this. It is imperative that every Chinese citizen be prohibited from doing what they want with their money. Their financial freedom must be restricted at all costs. And the costs will be heavy. Like the space race of yore, governments are going to be forced to spend huge amounts of tax dollars collected from their citizens to attain their mission which is, in this case, to prevent them from spending their money on whatever they want )(last time it was to go to the moon). In fact, this problem will probably unite the governments of the world to work together in peace and love and harmony in order to fight and win this battle against the learning of blockchain technology. The knowledge of this advanced math must not spread no more! Big governments were not able to restrict the proliferation of the knowledge of gravity or the solar system, but if 100% of every hard earned tax dollar must be spent fighting the knowledge of math and cryptography, then so be it. In fact, taxes are being raised to fight the knowledge spread of blockchain tech as we speak. Forget what you know about bitcoin now before your government knows that you understand the math behind this new math discovery This is awesome. Governments will soon unite agains bitcoin as a form of currency. It's already happening. However, the more distributed the network becomes, the less control they will have. Think about BitTorrent... anyone use that? It's a decentralized file sharing technology that can't be stopped because of how decentralized it is. Same goes for the darknet (albeit very different in nature). Gov. cannot monitor, regulate and enforce laws on each individual's computer - or large decentralized networks mining Bitcoin. They can make it illegal, they can impose fines, but they cannot in all reality stop it... it's too big a beast to take down and there aren't enough SS agents to accomplish something like this. ... there will be a time in the future that we will need to choose - are we with them or against them. The day of reckoning is coming. What will you choose? Title: Re: EXTRA EXTRA: China NOT Banning Bitcoin Exchanges After All!? WTF!? Post by: craZyLovE0916 on September 16, 2017, 08:09:56 PM SURPRISE SURPRISE! (not!)
Everyone with knowledge of the financial industry knows how much China contributes to the overall global economy. However, one way they profit from this is manipulating their currency rates to accept higher taxes on imports and lower ones on imports. IT is why they are now a superpower! Title: Re: EXTRA EXTRA: China NOT Banning Bitcoin Exchanges After All!? WTF!? Post by: cptdome1 on September 16, 2017, 08:19:10 PM Gotta love price manipulation.... Knock the price down, then buy more BTC!
Title: Re: EXTRA EXTRA: China NOT Banning Bitcoin Exchanges After All!? WTF!? Post by: GreenBits on September 16, 2017, 08:26:27 PM Gotta love price manipulation.... Knock the price down, then buy more BTC! fucking right, and sadly its on of the reasons we actually need more regulation in the space. Chinas comments seemed specifically timed (compare the charts with the press releases, im not kidding) to cause maximum hurt at the most sensitive moment possible. some of the same with JDs comments on bitcoin, via JP Morgan. Why express your opinions on bitcoin right now, with all this shit going on? Seems like kicking a dog when its down; and he admitted his daughter was invested in bitcoin. His comments actually had a small but demonstrable effect on her value. bankers are vile creatures :( Title: Re: EXTRA EXTRA: China NOT Banning Bitcoin Exchanges After All!? WTF!? Post by: Yakamoto on September 16, 2017, 08:32:15 PM Can you believe this... not even the Chinese can resist the allure of Bitcoin (or realize they don't have a choice). They say that they will ban ICOs, then regulate. They say they will ban crypto exchanges, then they regulate. They may be realizing that pandora's box has been opened. Blockchain isn't going anywhere. The game is over. Seems to be a running trend with me today, I thought that China had already specified that they were more intent on banning ICOs rather than the exchanges. Maybe the info got messed up somewhere but I remember seeing threads about it being ICOs and not just banning everything that is related to Bitcoin and cryptos.So..... Meanwhile, back in government labs.... "How can we stop this?? Let's ban it! Wait, we can't....okay let's try to regulate it then" - classic land grab attempt. That is the beauty. That is the power of crypto. That is the power of Bitcoin. We've just begun folks.... Enjoy the ride. Here is the article - for your reading pleasure: https://themerkle.com/chinese-bitcoin-exchanges-will-likely-not-be-banned-after-all/ Whatever though, good for them. ICOs are stupid for anything but speculation and get-rich-quick (essentially) for the devs. Starting to limit their prevalence with the community is definitely something that would be beneficial. Title: Re: EXTRA EXTRA: China NOT Banning Bitcoin Exchanges After All!? WTF!? Post by: Oceat on September 16, 2017, 08:59:30 PM Can you believe this... not even the Chinese can resist the allure of Bitcoin (or realize they don't have a choice). They say that they will ban ICOs, then regulate. They say they will ban crypto exchanges, then they regulate. They may be realizing that pandora's box has been opened. Blockchain isn't going anywhere. The game is over. Seems to be a running trend with me today, I thought that China had already specified that they were more intent on banning ICOs rather than the exchanges. Maybe the info got messed up somewhere but I remember seeing threads about it being ICOs and not just banning everything that is related to Bitcoin and cryptos.So..... Meanwhile, back in government labs.... "How can we stop this?? Let's ban it! Wait, we can't....okay let's try to regulate it then" - classic land grab attempt. That is the beauty. That is the power of crypto. That is the power of Bitcoin. We've just begun folks.... Enjoy the ride. Here is the article - for your reading pleasure: https://themerkle.com/chinese-bitcoin-exchanges-will-likely-not-be-banned-after-all/ Whatever though, good for them. ICOs are stupid for anything but speculation and get-rich-quick (essentially) for the devs. Starting to limit their prevalence with the community is definitely something that would be beneficial. Title: Re: EXTRA EXTRA: China NOT Banning Bitcoin Exchanges After All!? WTF!? Post by: GreenBits on September 16, 2017, 10:40:04 PM i thought the rumor was always that they were going to close the exchanges until they came into compliance. it was the same with the ICOs, but that wasnt a rumor, they actually made a formal guidance on that point. the market initially reacted on the ico ban; if you recall, people on the board were complaining that bitcoin was reacting for no reason (imo, no tokens but chinese tokens should have fell from the news). the erc20 markets and bitcoin actually started to recover a bit, but the media outlets kept reporting on the rumor. i recall watching qtum trending pretty low, then upticking suddenly. was actually recovering more or less (the markets were still shaky) until the latest big dip. nothing has truly recovered, and the things that have recovered have not done so equally.
Title: Re: EXTRA EXTRA: China NOT Banning Bitcoin Exchanges After All!? WTF!? Post by: q835197677 on October 23, 2017, 11:33:45 AM Well, I guess you're right.But the government's decision will not be easily changed, as any government would be, wouldn't it?I am lucky that the Chinese government has not announced that bitcoin is illegal, only to close the exchange, at least for now.
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