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Title: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: Refozzblaze on September 17, 2017, 07:36:36 AM
Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?


Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: nrvasquez on September 17, 2017, 07:42:42 AM
I'm not so sure with the comparison of all the coins you mentioned. but the one I know Monero is the best. of all the coins you mentioned above, I think only Monero shows the fastest development, so I think monero is the most secure from the list above.


Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: MisterKT on September 17, 2017, 07:46:17 AM
Monero and Dash have the advantage of keeping all the personnal information hidden in any transaction. So those two are the more secure


Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: rjbtc2017 on September 17, 2017, 07:56:17 AM
I think it's monero, i have read a post here that says that some of the dark web users will now switch to monero because of it's more secure system and some poster here also said that monero is far more secure than bitcoin.


Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: Qiuyue201 on September 17, 2017, 07:57:57 AM
Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?

Dash is not secure as others said, but zcash with its zsnarks seems to be a good choice for for you, and monero still become the best choice for the crypto privacy with already provided anonymously to the users of that coin. I will vote for monero


Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: xypos on September 17, 2017, 08:36:15 AM
Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?


They should all be secure.

The real comparison is who is the go-to anonymous coin for users, and i believe it's going to be Monero.

Dash and Zcash both have optional privacy. Monero allows you to choose the level of privacy you want but every transaction on the blockchain is anonymous meaning that it is fully fungible. That is why i believe Monero is the best.


Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: MatrixMining on September 17, 2017, 08:44:05 AM
They are all secure in a way that they have untraceable transactions. If you want a coin secure in a way that nobody can track your IP address, check DeepOnion which works over TOR network.


Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: markj113 on September 17, 2017, 08:45:13 AM
Check out KMD, based on zcash but has some additonal features like jumblr


Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: RoommateAgreement on September 17, 2017, 08:52:01 AM
what you didn't mention was secure for what?

different purposes may differ greatly.
for example for just storing them in a safe wallet, a safe key,... they are all safe. there has been no bugs in the code or the way the keys work or anything like that.

safe for storage of value is not so good for all of them. since they swing a lot.

but i guess your goal is the anonymity. which has nothing to do with being "secure". and it depends on what you are doing with them. if it is doing something illegal and wanting to stay anonymous then the coin alone can not save you no matter what. and if it is not illegal then Monero is the best one.


Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: Tipstar on September 17, 2017, 08:56:21 AM
Monero is the new favorite of dark web, drug traders and the terrorist.
That's why it may be the most secure coin for the time.
And it's value is increasing for the same reason.


Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: slaman29 on September 17, 2017, 09:00:11 AM
I think each coin will argue that they are the most secure. They are all designed to be anonymous, so each has different methods to hide your trail or make it more difficult to track. I am guessing OP is wondering about which is the more anonymous... aren't all crypto suppposed to be secure?

Monero is the market choice, most accepted. Dash is the most expensive... but even their masternode got hacked. Zcash? No clue.


Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: vincentvincent on September 17, 2017, 09:30:30 AM
None of them:

https://themerkle.com/blocksci-succesfully-traces-transactions-performed-with-dash-zcash-and-other-currencies/
https://cointelegraph.com/news/monero-transactions-history-can-be-revealed-and-exposed-research



Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: GeorgeSoros on September 17, 2017, 09:55:49 AM
Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?


the most secure from far: ADK. (Aidos Kuneen), anonymous transaction, instant transfer, zero fees.


Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: ineedlicense on September 17, 2017, 10:06:43 AM
Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?


Monero is the best. I wouldn't invest in the others.


Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: billyj111 on September 17, 2017, 10:14:31 AM
I consider that from this list the best choice is a Monero coin, maybe more Zcash.


Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: Refozzblaze on September 17, 2017, 10:27:18 AM
Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?

Dash is not secure as others said, but zcash with its zsnarks seems to be a good choice for for you, and monero still become the best choice for the crypto privacy with already provided anonymously to the users of that coin. I will vote for monero
Hmmm....
Zcash Has Low Fee
While Monero Has Big Fee
So
Zcash For Small Transaction
Monero For Big Transaction


Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: BitcoinHodler on September 17, 2017, 11:51:12 AM
Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?

Dash is not secure as others said, but zcash with its zsnarks seems to be a good choice for for you, and monero still become the best choice for the crypto privacy with already provided anonymously to the users of that coin. I will vote for monero
Hmmm....
Zcash Has Low Fee
While Monero Has Big Fee
So
Zcash For Small Transaction
Monero For Big Transaction

i think you need to first clarify what is it exactly that you want!
you ask for "security" and then talk about transaction fees! well sometimes fees are the last thing you should care for when you are looking for "security" (whatever that means in your head.)

all of these have flaws. some small and ignorable and some are big enough to want to ignore the coin itself. i personally prefer Monero among these.


Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: Febo on September 17, 2017, 06:09:29 PM
Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?


This is so simple. Most secure is Monero.

ZCash you first need to believe the trusted setup. So if they failed there is not secure at all. Can be printed millions of fake ZCAsh.

DASH, gives only 45% of mining rewards to their miners to secure network. So is not really secured and with every year will be less and less since this reward will decrease.


Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: dennyd999 on September 20, 2017, 12:43:33 AM
Monero is also my choice if I need a security.


Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: DanWagner on September 20, 2017, 01:07:33 AM
From what i understand monero is the most secure...

But never put your full trust in it because you never know...


Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: Sarcasm on September 20, 2017, 01:14:40 AM
I am not sure if the monerp, dash, zcash is safe, indeed the coins are very secret in the transaction, maybe the development of the next epoch will not be anonymous


Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: vovannovig on September 21, 2017, 02:29:55 PM
I like this - Spectrecoin [XSPEC] TOR+OBFS4

http://i062.radikal.ru/1709/ce/d0f428740a47.jpg

http://s019.radikal.ru/i644/1709/8d/ab4b351274ee.png

This is how the whole network looks. No white address, all in tunnels!

http://s015.radikal.ru/i333/1709/23/95de0e136620.jpg


To read - https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/anonymous-crypto-spectrecoin-now-sees-tor-obfs4-integration/ (https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/anonymous-crypto-spectrecoin-now-sees-tor-obfs4-integration/)
To read - http://coinwiki.info/en/SpectreCoin (http://coinwiki.info/en/SpectreCoin)
To read - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2103301 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2103301)


Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: lokko on September 21, 2017, 02:48:16 PM
This coin is more secure

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2156463.msg21579169#msg21579169

 ;)


Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: Beachguy on September 21, 2017, 03:09:12 PM
A zcash fork with no website?  ???


Spectrecoin's long game is an android wallet. It has large community support and it's here NOW .....the client loads connected to the TOR network and OBFS4 kicks in for countries blocking TOR.

Check it out.


Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: VeeTeaSee on September 21, 2017, 03:30:06 PM
Check out KMD, based on zcash but has some additonal features like jumblr

yes.. KMD is the most secure so far
with zero knowledge + jumblr


Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: RKh on September 21, 2017, 03:39:20 PM
SpectreCoin (XSPEC)

The only coin with intergrated TOR in client + OBFS4 (that works in...ta-dam!...China!) that actually was tested and WORKS!

Traffic is hidden,
Transactions you cant trace, cause of ring signatures and stealth adresses

Soon to have native wallet with new GUI and android wallet

Coin is PoSv3, so everythings fast and no mining ban won't affect the network

5% staking of coins per year

+ v1.4 is soon to be out(October)

Price is miserably cheap cause of a development gap (changing teams)

All things considered, you do the math
(coinwiki.info/en/SpectreCoin (http://coinwiki.info/en/SpectreCoin))

https://d30y9cdsu7xlg0.cloudfront.net/png/434335-200.png


Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: Gandalf86 on September 21, 2017, 03:40:53 PM
i think you need to first clarify what is it exactly that you want!
you ask for "security" and then talk about transaction fees! well sometimes fees are the last thing you should care for when you are looking for "security" (whatever that means in your head.)

all of these have flaws. some small and ignorable and some are big enough to want to ignore the coin itself. i personally prefer Monero among these.

The only sensible answer so far. If you want to know which is the most "secure", you must define "security" first. ::)  Good luck with that. In terms of being free of bugs (so that your money is secure against devaluation), Bitcoin is probably the most secure, because it is fairly simple and has been tested for bugs and possible attacks extensively.


Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: travelgear17 on September 21, 2017, 03:42:36 PM
Dash, Monero, Zcash are both of them safe and stable  as altcoin  as per coinmarketcap valume but what do you think about those coin..?
Below link you can check status about those coin.
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/dash/
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/monero/
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/zcash/
hopefully you got it.


Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: Similificator on September 21, 2017, 04:05:11 PM
Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?



To be honest, all the coins you have mentioned recently are quite good. I can positively say that all of them are secured. And losing them would not be the coin's fault. It will clearly be the holder's fault if ever he loses his possession of any of these coins. Having said these, i still favor with monero. Because i have seen a lot of illegal businesses using monero for their transactions. Its just a news i heard from a different source. But i think it's real.
Hope i answered your question. Goodluck.


Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: vovannovig on September 21, 2017, 05:34:47 PM
I agree - the safest is the one with the largest capitalization, but the most anonymous one is Spectrecoin XSPEC TOR+OBFS4


Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: lokko on September 21, 2017, 06:07:53 PM
A zcash fork with no website?  ???


Spectrecoin's long game is an android wallet. It has large community support and it's here NOW .....the client loads connected to the TOR network and OBFS4 kicks in for countries blocking TOR.

Check it out.

hey,

yes, you're right.
Zero is a mysterium, it was created for the community and
Unfortunately, too few people know it because all of them are fixated on zcash and this although zero is the much better coin.

The community is working on these basics and there will be a website soon.

words of consolation,
what good is the most beautiful woman if she has a bad character.

Zero doesn't have a website yet, but it's an absolutely brilliant coin.

best regards


Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: SpearTackle on September 23, 2017, 01:25:59 AM
It’s Monero, because it is said to be private secure and untraceable currency, as I have read Monero uses a ring signature, “With this technique, there appears a group of cryptographic signatures including at least one real participant – but since they all appear valid, the real one cannot be isolated.-- Investopedia”


Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: yorklab on September 23, 2017, 02:23:21 AM

Zencash - When Secure Nodes launch next month it will be the most secure system out there.

https://blog.zensystem.io/zencash-compared-to-zcash-infographic/




Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: Beicin on September 23, 2017, 02:36:51 AM
Monero is the coin that offers the best technology out of the ones you listed, by a long shot. You can do your own research and reach the same conclusion me and many others on this very thread have already reached ;)


Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: Lpim01 on September 23, 2017, 02:51:56 AM
Monero and Dash have the advantage of keeping all the personnal information hidden in any transaction. So those two are the more secure
This coins are in the road to hit in the market and to the users, since i belongs to the top 15 of coins market capitalization.
They have a huge potentials to compete others in front of them. More users and investors will go through this coins in the coming days.


Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: Sarcasm on September 23, 2017, 03:03:40 AM
Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?

I think for security reasons that are very closed is monero,
there is very difficult to track multiple transaction addresses, and it will be difficult


Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: DosManos on September 23, 2017, 03:04:49 AM
think about the big picture when talking about anonymity

VTC will work on the TOR network soon, like other coins that claim to do that, but with the high stability of the network and atomic swap it will function a lot better in this concept.
why?
because you will be able to swap BTC to VTC anonymously with atomic swap and then use it anonymously with low fee's.. and how will you get ONION and XSPEC that claim to be anonymous? you have to get them thru the exchange so it is not that anonymous anymore ....





Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: Ekkasit on September 23, 2017, 04:43:05 AM
I think Zcash.

Zcash use the new method that is very safe for transaction.

I am not sure about the method. May be there is some comparison in the internet


Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: OracionSeis on September 23, 2017, 05:22:49 AM
Monero and Dash have the advantage of keeping all the personnal information hidden in any transaction. So those two are the more secure
This coins are in the road to hit in the market and to the users, since i belongs to the top 15 of coins market capitalization.
They have a huge potentials to compete others in front of them. More users and investors will go through this coins in the coming days.
Monero better than Dash coin, if you ask the dark web market what is coin they use for deal? They will choose Monero because it has many functions Bitcoin and other altcoins do not have. 8)


Title: Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure?
Post by: neinnein125 on September 23, 2017, 09:09:56 AM
As I know from tech monero is the best one in bigger anon coins list. But as other users said, what do you mean by security? if you mean security of your money and transactions bitcoin is imho the safest one to use, nearly bug-free.