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With China news, and panic in the market. Is there is any returns on investment for new comers . For eg Ethereeum was $40  6 months back look at now.

earlier days the ICO offerings were cheap. Nowadays and recent ICO  tokens average around a dollar. I meant he Real , BMC etc tokens.

Not sure if we will make money in this risky market, as new comers bring in or pump in hard earned money. Old players are like playing in casino exchange coins from what they bought years ago . They do not feel the pinch as well worry about value, or need to do more homework on understanding the ICO for investment purposes.

Newcomers are walking in a thin rope i ffeel. I am not pessimistic but that's just my feeling. Not much of wiggle room to play as profits are far less than marketed.

Try to follow old traders on twitter, they usually have good things to say about being careful and how to handle your investment, plus some good calls too. Also telegram groups where you can see people discuss the prices and the icos

I think that this market is not yet large-scale and that those who have already gone in then earn and that which will be in half a year from here it's hard to say

My advices:

Never go all in!
Never go full dump!
Don't trust anybody in crypto!

New comers must understand how risky it is to invest on crypto. No room for scared here. If they have doubts because of these bad news and panic in the market then better not to pursue for the moment until they understand the risk they are entering.

As far as your statement is concern you have doubts. You are not yet ready. An investor that really knows what they doing will enter even currently there is an ongoing minor and major panic.

First of all congrats on finding the way to this thread! This is a good start. No2, i saw someone mentioned that you should follow OG's at twitter. I suggest that you should never listen to what those people have to say. About Etherium, its done a huge bull run, but withing next 4-6 months I think ETH would go as long as 1500-2000USD per ETH. Also BMC is a high end token and the company has a lot of backing to it. Also do not look at the price of the token, but the scalaing that it can do. For eg if BMC could do a 10x, and you out 100USD into it, when it does 10x your 100 will be 1000USD.

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Welcome and congratulation for join
my advice is ETH u will see @500$ atleast soon

This is a good sinthesys. Consider that all what you won't learn by understanding how it works BEFORE to act, you will understand later by the way of pain. Everybody here got screwed at some point in one way or another. And most of us have learned the lesson...

-> Investments were always risky regardless of ETH or any other coin.People play smart thereby taking big risks.Like you said old players don't need to worry what happens to the market because the risks taken have turned out to be positive.

-> No-one really gives a shit about new comers.You play it smart ,you take the risks you profit.No one is asking to buy ETH,there are lot of other alt-coins which can be purchased  in the early phase.

i can advise to beginners don't invest to shit coin and just buy ICO tokens and research that project.

If you don't brave enough to take even a smallest risk, then don't.
But remember, take a risk will leads you to success life. It's worth the trouble.

Trade with your own risk.
Patience is the key to success.

That's why we need to always inform them that self education is the best. Specially if you are planning to trade.

Even with ICO's that sounds promising sometimes it will not just work out. Always be careful on where you are going to put your money.Try to research the company or the developer.

I read here that you need to check group messenger and i actually do that to but on my facebook. You may also join some group in facebook.

the simplest and strongest investment strategy is always the long-term hold position...
so just buy bitcoins, and forget about it at all... put the coins into your paper wallet, stick the private key to your passport...
maybe after 3 years ... re-check the price... unless there is world war, i guess you will make more profit than most investors, and miners

My investment advice to newbies:

Have fun

Money is just pieces of paper

You're gonna die one day

In every investment and trading you must do research first before joining any kind of bitcoin and altcoin twist but if you think you are not very sure of what you are trying to join then just invest only what you think you can afford to lose so that if times of failure it will not hurt you that much.

simple but true, don't trust anybody in crypto because even friend can be your enemy especially in trade. i already experience that by myself so i learn from it

My only advice: Don't stick too long with one coin.

If it reach your take profit line, be happy and sell it.

I have seen many cool projects that I hope I can buy and hold them forever like SC, STRAT, BTS, NEO... but no. I end up selling them after a massive dump.

My advice regarding ICO investments is before investing your hard earned money just study about the possible future potential  of the project . The other thing is you need to make sure that the ICO is not a scam by doing a investigation on your level with the available resources. Its very important. And finally invest what you can afford to loose.

My advice is to get into a coin that offers masternodes EARLY. and get enough coins to set up a masternode. that way its very hard to lose!

i won't advise you to invest in big amount for the ico but i can suggest to invest your money in bitcoin. although bitcoin price is volatile but at least, in the end the price will recover and get new price. beside that if we want to invest our money to the ico, we need more info before investing in the ico and there is no guarantee that the ico will success.

Top advice here  ;D   See https://masternodes.pro (https://masternodes.pro) for masternode ROI info. If you see a low masternode count (or low circulation) then it's probably a good time to get in.

eg LINDA is new coin, and that can generate 200K free LINDA on a good day (like for my MN yesterday) - it was probably extreme luck.. But that coin is pretty cool, it was only 3 satoshi a few weeks ago, and it can't go lower than 1 satoshi.. So it has a very solid growth potential that uses the 8 decimal place limit of Bitcoin to some advantage!  

Welcome to the wonderful world of crypto.
Short time poster - long time lurker.

What I have seen is basically all the people that tell you to buy and hold are correct.
It's *very* easy to get caught in the hype of a fancy new coin or some new project. But in the end, its not really about the flash or glamor. Its mostly about the tech. If it is good tech with good development that are willing to run the marathon - not the sprint - then the coin will survive whatever the market can throw at it.

Maybe this is a bubble. Hell if I know.
What I do know is that there have been people who are discontented with the way banking/finance is going. Then there are also people who are doubters because their money is tied up in the current system.

This whole sphere has been called a bubble. And honestly may be called that until the current system is gone.

Find something you like and learn about it. This isnt a get rich quick thing. You can, but there are also thousands of people in the cryptosphere who want to do this aswell.

Dont invest more than you are willing to lose.

At the same time - no risk = no reward.

All the best!

The crypto world has always been volatile. Many people don't know this and tend to overreact. The best way to earn profits in this world is long term trading(Buy and HODL all the way). This is no secret. It all depends on how long you are willing to wait to earn money.

My advice would be to look for ways to garner passive income. Examples of these would be coins that allow masternodes or proof-of-stake coins. I don't know much about what masternode coins are good ones to get in on. Although for PoS coins I would recommend ETHD (just take a look at their thread) and PoSToken, the latter being the first ERC20 PoS token and having no ICO, but offering their tokens out through an airdrop.

Free tokens has to be some good advice

My advices are: split your money into at least 4-5 altcoins, do not panic in each decrease in value of altcoin (even buy some more in some cases) and be patient.

My advice is that you can buy some video card for mining, ICO is banned by the Chinese government, a huge amount of ICO coins are scam I think, be careful.

You can join some airdrop, at least it's more reliable than ICO

If you invest use the dollar cost average method
Always to your research (Team, vision, project, usability)
Dont trust anybody
Never fomo in
Buy a hardware wallet
Always take some profit ( unless you want to be a hodler, which is fine buts its very hard to see potential gains of over 200% disappear)
Have fun

Cheers

I would recommend before investing all your hard earned money just study the project and never invest all your money!  ;D Good ICO have to have a good and real product and experienced team of founders.

I should add some:

Always diversify your risks!
Don't hurry up! You should make smart and weighted decisions.
If you are newbie use buy and hold strategy.

The one who made me get into the bitcoin advised me not to expect big on bitcoin unless you have a bigger capital investment. Newbies easily get trapped by investments that were completely scam. It's good to have a clear understanding and then step forward to know the process of earning rather than just getting into traps.

Do you have some twitter account, trader names or references to share?

I can advise to you ops, have time to read more about ICO and Trading. Also you can check out many article in Google or in youtube that you can use as reference. Make a thread in this forum if you have a question and clarification. All you can do now is to read and understand.

for the newcomers i always suggest investing in bitcoin only. that is the best option you can hope for. the market is bigger more trusted and even if you make mistakes you can be relatively sure that price will eventually recover and you make your money back. it is safe in bitcoin.

then as next step you should start trading altcoins. still no ICO though. altcoins are easier to trade and a newcomer normally doesn't even know what to look for in an ICO and how to choose from them, for them it will be like gambling if they try.

The best investment advice that I can give you is that don't hop into coins that other shill to you. They have their own agenda, which is that they try to shill you coins that they have themselves invested in so that more and more people keep buying the same coin and the price should rise. Best is to wait and watch how the market cycles work and then do a lot of research before buying into any alt coin. You are still early here and can make good money, god speed and good luck to you.

My advice would be that if you are looking to hold your coins, go for projects that are likely to be able to generate revenue In The short term and therefore are unlikely to run out of money.  Too many projects completely assume there is a market for their or their product will be adopted into a particular market.

Do research on crypto markets and study them best option for now is to hold on coins and stay updated via news sources and know when the coin you are holding will go up, visit https://www.cryptxmoney.com/ for news updates on the crypto market.

If you want to invest into altcoin, make sure it is potential like Nem, this altcoin was really good to hold in a long term together with waves and ethereum as well they good too to hold in a long term.

For investment into crypto you need select some good coin. Eth is one of them.you can invest into MGO,NEO,straits etc coin now.Now the price is under a good rate for buy,it is the good time to buy those coin.

Eth and btc are good, for sure..but don't start from investing all your funds in big coins, they are pretty expensive for the new investor with average budget.. But diversification is always a good decision

I think for a newbie it wont be good to make fast decision on making investment you should first do lots of research first and make reasonable analysis on certain projects to avoid wasting money.

Does anyone know that website? Someone has signed in?
I'm not sure if enter my phone number and some other private informations to get news is the best idea...

the effect of the ico ban on the grounds of disrupting the financial order in the country, many are pessimistic to invest.
if I encourage you, join social media that continues to provide information about bitcoin like telegram, and others
The goal is to see the gap where the right time to invest.

There is two type of advise of for newbie.
first, you increase your post and activity for increasing the rank. your rank will be increase your free income by using the signature campaign.
second read and understand how to apply the aridrop and bounty. this is also to make free income. apply all rules and regulations of bounty to get the free coin.
Other wise you have to invest your money according to some expert. a person follow all rules of bounty and airdrop will full time donating his time for this. then he will get more income from here instead of personal investment in the market.because it has 100% genuine results rally.

I highly advise to diversify!
When you profit, take out your initial investment and continue with your profits.
When you hit the 1k above, invest in security (new laptop for trading, hard wallets etc.).

As much as I want to buy into that, I am not sure I can. If you believe a coin have prospect, I see no reason why you should not hold on to them for as long as you can. Moreover, what made you consider those coins you just mentioned as cool project is because you have seen so much development, most especially with the increase in value rate in a short period.

However, this does not mean there are some other coins with prospects and as long as you can do your research and buy at a very good price, holding should not be a problem.

You are correct bro. A lot of unnecessary coin on the market. and we can't invest on it. We need to research more about any type of coin & then, we could decide anything.
And read white paper & research about the project..

Play around and lose somebody. That's the best advice I can tell you to get started. You're going to hear a lot of people suggest this coin suggest that quite what you need to do is pick for yourself. I assume that you're not using money that you could not afford to lose so the best way is to get out there and lose that money. That is the easiest way to learn what to do and what not to do. And you never know you might actually make money in the process.

That is right. But to those who are willing to set aside a considerable amount of investment, Bitcoin and Ethereum are the two coins on top. They are the most reliable and so investment to these two coins are less risky as compared to investment to other altcoins. Please research about the projects you are investing into.

Always make your own research.
Even if you heard something from the very famous and reliable trader. Do not rush, think carefully!

They also need to take the attitude of others because it is still a beginner, the research itself does not apply if they do not understand the basics. They will understand after the first investment and that is when the experience time will begin, we must be wise to advise because the advice is also determined not from himself.

I like that. Never go all in. As much as optimistic anyone wants to be, it is still not advisable going all in. You cannot predict what the future holds and as long as we are still in an early phase without much ground, we are still all playing at the edge of the wall. The most important thing is that blockchain technology is an innovation worth being part of at this stage and we surely hope it ends up being the future of how we transact without the banking system.

Currenlty for making money you need to go for strickted ICO with KYC. and then get some limited tokens that many wont get in huge nuber.
THis type of coin will give you nice flip and return. There is to many ICO to get $$$ from everything.

I think the biggest thing for a newbie is to make your own research first and then ask for forum people's opinions... never relay only on what other people say is good...

Yeah it's always good to research the coin first and ask other people's experience with trading the coin, it's always good to listen to other people when you're a trader just so that you'll know how the market goes for that specific coin but when making decisions though it's good to make a decision based on your own, in that way you can't blame someone so if you end up losing you'll learn from your mistakes and come out so much better. 

I'm just curious, why there are so many people who just can say smth like "this is good-invest in this ICO" and nothing more? do they really think that people need to know just names?

I told you what i think about it. If you are newbi do not invest some time. First of all learn about investmet, read this forum alot of time, choose your invesment project, do some research about it and remember about risks. If you not be able to do this simple things. Do not invest anywhere. Wish you good luck with your investment.

Newcomers are walking in a thin rope? You are in at the right time. You would have felt the same way few years ago or even early this year if you wanted to invest. If you follow the trend, you will see how far it has been and if you have been reading the news, you would have known that we are still at the early phase. leave this pessimistic thought of yours for Laggards cause that is sure not where you belong right now.

Thats the million dollar question isn't it? No one can guarantee you anything in this crypto market that we are riding right now - too unpredictable and too much price/whale manipulation going on..

stunvn can't even take his own advice.  He bought coins to "hold them forever" yet sells for a massive loss because he bought in at the peak due to fomo and then panic sold the dip.  Which means he held them for a couple months most likely.  But hey, apparently that's "forever" in the altcoin world.   

Maybe for the beginning you just need to get profit from big coins like eth and stratis. I think it will be a safe investment.
But, if you dare to take risks I think new coins like neblio and kickico will be good for long-term investments.

This is true. If you people are entering into this world and you end up scared and panicking all the time, then there must be some sort of incompatibility with your attention or approach to the reality in crypto. In crypto, everything suddenly goes up and goes down. ICO coins becomes very big and some dived too low days after it is done.

i agree with that newbies should begin from btc or eth cause these coins keep good value which will give the newbies profits and also the time to learn, and when these guys gain profits and learn knowledge about this market, they can go to other altcoins

Now i'm share with you a very important advise to newbie's That is a most of the part market analysis . For all newbie's must check online market then invest other trading site and start with your trading and make money with your invest. Other advise is hold coin. coin hold is a very profitable this is a big income for all.

The most useful advice from my opinion for newbies that if you want to invest in cryptocurrencies, Bitcoin is still a most important thing of every portfolio point of view ,but it is no longer the onliest asset. In every well balanced crypto portfolio today you will find other coins,like Ethereum,Ripple,Litecoin,Dash and Monero. If you want to have a balanced portfolio at one point in time, it might be a good strategy to simply reflect the Five most valuable currencies in your portfolio.In every investment you must do your own research first before joining any kind of bitcoin and altcoin crypto but if you think you are not very sure of what you are trying to join then just invest only what you think you can afford to lose so that if times of failure it will not hurt you that much.

There is always a return to be had. Crypto fluctuate a lot and that is where the good money is to be had. For instance the other day DeepOnion was down to $0.61 and then increased to $1.05 within a timespan of 24 hours. This was due to issue on the only exchange it is listed on; NovaExchange. As the issues was resolved, trading resumed and people who invested at $0.61 and sold at the $1 mark, had instant returns.

This is not an isolated case, these scenarios occur all the time. The more you read, the more you study the more coins you learn about, the easier it becomes to detecting patterns and opportunities that may be of advantage to you in investing.

If you are new I suggest you start small, invest in a variety of coins so you are emotionally connected to them, follow the communities, the news, the roadmap deliveries, the price variations etc. The more of this you do, the easier trading becomes.

I think the market is also going in depth of downward and the good time to buy any altcoin and I think in next 6 months mostly coins will go up and up and will create new top candles with the great profit of investors.

One thing I will advice Newbies about it that, if they are looking for quick bucks and forget to research the projects they are investing into they will burn themselves, it is amazing some people referencing people that joined this movement from the Genesis, they too took a great risk even than those entering now and again some of them would have cash out when the price hit $1 but chose to stick to their investment and this shows that long term investing is the best

I am not a trader but my best advise is not to caught up on hype/pump&dump scams. They are much more sophisticated and harder to spot than in the old days. Post regularly on BTT to build up your rating but do not post spam/unhelpful posts and then research the various sig campaigns that pop up for free coins.
Dont trust anybody!. Its not the real world here and there are many bad actors.
Think of it as the wild west but without a sheriff.

New comers should understand the risk involved in any investment, you have to take financial risks so that you can end up making profit. Always be patient with all the investments that you make, if you want to make profit.

When trading, don't buy when the value is high, buy when its low so that you will be able to sell when its high. Always have strategy.

Thanks, will look on this one. I'm also having a hard time deciding on where to invest and what to do.

You are so right. Thank you for your advices. We are following Hero Members or legends posts :)

By advice to newbies if they go for altcoin investment is that they should follow or like the coin on social medias to keep them updated of what is going on and if the projects are progressing or not. You can also join telegram groups which is what the first person commented on the topic said because I did the same thing. And find time to read the coins roadmap also, you'll be surprised of how much information you can get out of it.

For starters the best is to invest in Bitcoin! It proved to be the safest

thats true, because most users start from using bitcoin and then get to know altcoin and then get to know more about ICO, and so on, studying gradually and periodically from general (bitcoin) then to special (all knick knacks in cryptocurrency) is the right thing to learn correctly

Yes it is safe but just will give small amount of profit too just investing into bitcoin, even it will needs couples years to get return of investment, the best choice for get the best profit from digital coins are investment in the icos and trading altcoins, it has big chance to get profit with a little money, the money to be invested in Ico must be the amount that can afford to lose due to investing in Ico and trading altcoins, Setting the risk of losing must be completely mastered.

I agree with you, I think they want on thin ice, especially now when there is such situation in China.

Just buy Bitcoin and HODL as you research more about crypto. That's the best advise for newbies.

That is right. We have to go out from comfort zone to reach our success. But we should know what is a risk of our action. I also new on this forum but i feel lucky to know this forum where i can learn to choose a  good or bad investment (coin ). But prediction is always right and its just probability game. We can only just learn how to increase the probability.

Lesson I learned from trading is only buy when it is red, not when it is green. Dont put all your ammo on a single shot, make it a few shots worth. It is better not to earn any profit than losing money.

experience will allow us to adjust after, i think with trading activities we can learned more about money management, if we can survive using
diversion tactics when losing in some particular trades its better to cut loses then buy another coin which showing good potential, there's a lots
of studying involved so you can take advantage.

Invest full in coins. Altcoins are good coins you should give all your money in to it. If you lose it is unlucky. If you are lucky you can have 1 million dollars for nothing.

You can also invest and sell, and do that again. To have more money out of it. For free.

Yes your thoughts about the investments are pretty matured. It's not us or the noobs for instance who fall for the scam projects or the projects which are costly enough to invest in. That's all happening all due to the ICO going wild everywhere and they are the only entity who will decide the price of tokens because everything here simply is not real or more or less it's decentralised what we call it.


For now investment needs to be smart and should be done rarely but in the profitable manner. Hundreds of projects are published everyday but it's not like that we should go investing into all of them. People who are noobs will fall for these projects and will invest unwanted amount of money into it. That needs t be changed and one must be careful about everything.

Just like what I am always saying, before
investing you must make some research.

I think you wont hear good advice at all, cause there are no friends in crypto-market)

Right! but for a smaller amount, there are probably no not risky choices.. so new ICO's you personally like and believe in would be an option