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Why projects don't allow newbies to participate? We still ask a lot of questions and we're also noticeable ;D

Because it would lead to big spam on this forum. Another reason because newbie's signature is very limited only text, which isn't attracted to other reader.

Yes, these are weighty reasons. Thank you for explaining :)

Copy & paste text and meaningless posts are the problems who a signature campaign manager is dealing, and newbies meet it mostly these inappropriate criteria. I personally think also that the BTC price is too high to pay per post at a reasonable rate because earlier they were more decent.

why campaign is not available for newbie? You can see in all the threads of many newbie accounts now. and I think they created a new account. and that will cause the forum to be a mess

Seconded on this answer. Thinking off that anyone could simply register on the site and if a certain bounty campaign would allow newbies then for sure spamming would really be there and lots of participants because its really as easy as 1,2,3. This is why most of them do require atleast JR. or some of them do require Member and up in able for you to join.

newbie is not allowed to participate campaign, because the project team feel newbie still not master this forum. it is feared that the newbie just post in the thread they control. and the signature in the newbie profile is invisible to others

Newbie's signature isn't invisible for othe, it's only text or simple link. Do you ever see newbie wearing signature?
Sometimes, there is a campaign which allows newbie to participate, but it's rarely

first of all it is termed BOUNTY not baunty lol hehe, now back to your back to your question.  as far as i know there is one signature campaign that accepts newbie members and that is why future signature campaign but i dont know if it still active , just search it on the services section if you want to try your luck applying theier because the manager there is friggin strick and almost impossible for newbies to be accepted ( 1% over 100 )  or maybe hes alts or friends can only join that campaign.  ill add also that there are many bounty campaigns on the altcoin section that accepts most newbies and laslty social media campaign also accept some newbies because they are basing it on your social medias account.

No constructive replies, no sensible discussions, and no noticeable signatures. These are the reasons why campaigns does not accept newbies now a days.
A campaign gets nothing out of newbie participates as they wear only a signature having a few words which someone hardly can notice, and who would click a signature of a newbie at the end of the day? Everyone will bypass it even if they notice it. So there is no point in appointing newbies to signatures, so they stopped doing it.

Well, that's a pretty good question. It's something that gives some big questions for them (newbie) who want to follow a project or a signature campaign. The fatal mistake in this forum is that many people are abusing it for their benefit, so before the newbie is banned there are some people who create many new accounts where they immediately try to include all accounts created into the signature where it gives a loss to those who do have the potential to help promote the product to everyone.

Maybe they want newbies to learn first all things about bitcoin because bitcoin is not that easy to understand. You need to follow rules, know what to do. Understand what to post or not. You just need patience because patience is virtue. All things have a right time.

There are still some who accepts newbies though but I think they preferred those accounts that are here for quite sometime rather than a newly made account and still could not follow some rules when joining the campaign plus most of the newest members tend to spam posts, not saying everyone does but most of them so that's why they minimize the grant of application for newbies.

oops, mistake ::) And big thanks for the tips, I'll try to look

so that newbies more focus  first laern deeper,so that future do not face difficulty

It takes time to learn how the website works, the slang, the etiquette, the industry keywords. Newbies at this point can only harm the project.
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There are few signature bounty campaigns that are accepting newbie as participants , but mostly of signature bounty campaigns are not accepting newbies because most newbie accounts spam in there posting. That rule is not qualified to do. And there are restricted area where newbie can not do post.

Haha, this is nothing to be sad about. The main reasons are spam, limited signatures, trust value and most importantly that if newbies are allowed to participate in signature campaigns, then people will start making multiple accounts to participate in the bounty campaigns, leading to a loss for the bounty sponsors. So, don't overthink about it, just interact with the various topics, read, understand and you will gradually get better ranks. Don't just come here for money, but to learn and be updated in the crypto world.

Don't complain about this, you can become a Jr member soon , then you can participate in a lot of projects bounties.

I think newbies need time to study the rules of the forum, bounty manager don't want his thread be deleted or locked by newbie.You know many newbies break the rules of the forum more often than others. I think that's the reason.

bounty manager want to manage a good user , because if newbie join participation on signature camp , manager scared the participation
 just a spam post on forum and make a bad post about her project. and signature code for newbie is just a text ,  it just makes other users hard to see the signature code.  :'(

Newbie is suppose to be unreliable, people don't want unreliable newbie to advertise for them . That's my opinion, maybe not the truth.

Cannot find a link to that post right now, but I've recently read some post from an ICO saying that they had to hire a dedicated support assistant to their bounty program manager because newbies he was told to allow were asking so many questions, so 24/7, and earned so few rewards at the beginning of their participation (which means they were doing it wrong) that one person simply could not handle that. According to that piece, the more experienced, the more helpful (and less distracting).

this forum rules is allowed member create a multiple account but following the rules , not spam post and out of topic. and a ICO rules always not allowed multiple account joined a bounty , maybe like a 1 account 1 bounty campaign.  ;)

you can find in bounties section, maybe one or two campaign support newbie
but is good youre incraese youre rank before join signature campaign, alternative you can join social media campaign, facebook and twitter campaign

Even if you find such bounty that accepts newbies, the payment would be too small. So it's better to wait until you'll be promoted to Junior and choose any signature you like.

because the signature for beginners is simple. and it will not attract many people to follow the ico. therefore bounty for beginners does not exist

Well if you would have business, would you want local men advertise you business? Sometimes we need higher people or more professional people to advertise our campaign and that is the same in the ranking or the accounts and the status of the trust on a user.

yes, that's right. i think studying is the best job for newbies instead of looking for signature campaign, trust me i know. i've been there and done that, but it'snot a waste of time i learned many things. but i think there was some bounty campaign accepting newbies, i have seen it while looking for a bounty campaign for myself. i think it was 1 stake per week. But if you are really desperate, just look for it in the service section in the marketplace of altcoin.

Also some bounties are only for members that have at least 1 year old account. This one you can't skip but getting jr. member shouldn't be so hard to achieve.

The actual issue is that I've never seen a forum in my entire life which had such exaggerated requirements to get rid of the newbie status. It's ridiculous and I've basically given up on contributing to finally reach the "coveted" junior member status since I'd basically have to adhere to a rigorous 2-month schedule of continuous posting which is absurd for a freaking forum. Not even reputable coin exchanges are that strict...

Why projects don't allow newbies to participate is that they still lack of knowledge. Not all but it will lessen the percentage of those who spam and low quality posts. But there are projects that allow newbies to participate not much pay but there is some out there just need to search deligently and just need to have quality post because even there are some that accepts newbies but they will look at your post's quality that they would accept.

Well i actually like the way this forum works, because if even newbies could participate in a campaign, they would have started massive spamming around the forum. Being a newbie means that you're unexperienced (Not meaning to know what BTC is etc), but not having enough knowledge about what ico stands for etcetera. when i first joined i had no clue what ICO was or how to deal with it, read and spectated people around the forum and if btt seemed too old-styled website, now i become more and more familiar with its design and structure and all. So yeah, being a newbie is good to sit and learn and then participate.

To prevent malicious registration of the bonus, the novice is prohibited

these rules can make you excited about making quality posts, not spamming, keep the spirit guys, you can do it, wait until your rank minimum jr.member, so you can participate in siganture campaign

They should really have patience knowing that they become Jr. member on a month and half.Bounty programs do really accept Jr. not newbies since its easy to create new account and joining a campaign which is really prone to abuse.This is why they don't really allow newbie to join and as being said above they do lack knowledge on things into this forum which isn't really suited to wear any companies signature.

First off, there are sometimes campaigns for people as low-ranked as Jr. Members. But this is simply because of one thing: you can't wear any signature when you are a Newbie member.

The forum system just tries to do its best to weed out automated accounts, so Newbie accounts need to mature into Jr. Member before they are allowed to do more, and access better features.

If you mean abusing the rules of forum to gain more profit then you nailed it ;)

Probably because of spam.
Some users would create hundreds accounts, cheat campaigns and not spam the hell out of forum.
If you ask me i wouldn't allow signatures for ranks below senior member - and i am far away from that.

I agree with you bro
Just enjoy the process right?
Just learn more and more
And all things have a right time

To stop the spam I guess, doesn't take too long to become a JR member anyway.

everyone can create new account easily at here, and im sure, so many newbie come here to join campaign too, better learning about bitcoin, blockchain and anything before join signature campaign.

Not all projects don't allow newbies to pattcipate, because you can still find a campain that accept newbies Just like the campain where im in right now... Projects most allows ranks higher than newbies it is because most of the newbies are unexperience and sometimes act as spamers on some threads. Its normal to newbies to mess up but too many mistakes will lead to a bigger problem thats why they prefere jr member and higher.

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There are a few reasons why newbies are not preferred to take part in bounty signature campaigns
1. Its been proven that newbies generate the most spam which is also underperformed marketing for the company
2. Forum is guided by rules which in most cases a newbie would easily break and ask for leniency as they were not aware of them which would be negligence in its own right.
3. Let us not forget sigs do not look colourful in the limited sig space of a newbie that's the reason why most require high ranked members for a standout.

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there are some bounty signature campaigns that accept newbies, some does not accept i think its because newbie is a spam , being newbie in this forum is very hard  they still don't know what to do and the rules to follow.

Your right, there are some bounty campaign that accept even if your rank is Newbie, ( i don't know if any signature campaign that accept Newbie until now ). And like what you said, the reason why Newbie rank didnt accept in signature campaign because the manager think that was spam. And Newbie dont know what the rule is especially in this forum like what you said. I suggest you focus in learning before you want to earn.

There are Bounty campaigns that accept newbies but its not easy to find one, Most bounty campaign requires only rank member and higher, it is because most of newbies are unexperience.

There are and I remember in the 1st quarter of this year, a lot of sig campaigns allows newbie to join campaigns but now it's very difficult to find one. It might be because of the spamming issues that a lot of newbies do.

Yes before there are some campaign that accepts a newbie. But it has been change the rules to no newbie would be accepting. Somehow, there reasons is valid because it will start to spam the forum by newbies and ofcourse they should follow the rules here in forum and needed to rankup first their account.

Sure, like there is any different with junior member accounts spamming forum until they reach JM rank to join campaign and spamming forum after they reach it. First I thought spam is reason but bounty campaigns are giving away approximately 2% of their token supply, i don't think they care much if in campaign will be 20 or 2000 participants. I think deeper reason for that is signature itself which is not really useful on newbie accounts.

Here is the bounty with the possibility of participation of newbie https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2236656

Because to newcomers less confidence than older participants ... So a subscription company more Scarecrow party more credible ...

Maybe, its because they wanted all the newbies to study first the rules and regulations of this forum. That's why they only have a limited options for the newbies. They need to learn more.

Some dev not allowed newbie join their bounty because they scared if too much spammer , and make their project bad quality.
But newbie can join a twitter or fb bounty , a lot bounty rules for social media is allowed for newbie.
But if signature campaign bounty is not much , but their dont want newbie join because their dont want newbie spam on this forum for raise post count or activity.
I recommend u join a airdrop or social media bounty the distribution/allocation for twitter and fb average with Jr.Member signature campaign.

its kinda like asking "why there are no jobs for kids"  :-\

LOL. Nice one! Most people are always very impatient and instead of paying their dues and seeing how effective they can be to the community, they just want to register an account and start making bucks without working towards it. Even in real life, things do not work that way as you just have to work your way to the top. No shortcuts!

Yeah i agreed with this one , like me beginning on this forum , i just create account and join some airdrop then i learn more about Altcoin , on Altcoin section.
Now im Jr.Member and this my first signature campaign , i guess their dev/bounty manager dont want newbie join their signature campaign for spamming on this forum.
And Newbie just can wear less code on the signature , maybe just wasting money for accept newbie participate on signature campaign , better more learn and joining some bounty like a social media bounty or article.

Because most of the newbies are spam posters so they generalized the rules that no newbies are required to join and could give them an ample time to read the rules and regulations of this forum, not unless you are an alt account and already know what to do once you join this forum.

To avoid those cheaters who make multiple accounts that will just spam the whole forum when they are allowed to participate in campaigns. This is also a good way to distinguish if that member is a shitposter or an account farmer that only posts in local and off topic section.

It is just appropriate for them to implement that. Whenever you are new, you don't what to do and that's why they spam threads in the forum. It's also a good way to prevent newbies to  be banned so they know what to avoid first before they even join signature bounties.

If you look carefully, you will find some projects that support newbies, but the reward is very little. In fact, newbie lacks trust, so the promotion it makes is usually very limited.

I think few companies will allow newbies to promote their campaign but most of the companies will look for an experienced person who has the ability to promote their campaign with the experience they have. As an experienced person, they will not spam by wearing their signatures.

Because newbie accounts are often to spam threads and they have no idea that it is untolerable in this forum. It also serves us a way to take care of your account because you will need to know what a newbie must know before you start posting when you joins signature  campaign after turning to jr. member.

i guess it's because many will spam newbies in the campaign.
i guess its better to have an experience/ explore first in the forum
before you get a bounty campaign

maybe they want newbie research bitcoin before participation campaigns. and may newbie spam in forum

The problem is that it will lead to a lot of spam bots on the forum. Imagine having a money making campaign for new users. It would be chaotic

Funniest comment, yes i also agree about this, but sometimes there were also newbies that the owner of that account are expert in bitcoin world, but not in the forum.

Its also because newbie's signature box are limited and others feature still unlocked, not like the elders

Those newbies that are the owner of the account who are an expert in the bitcoin world that you are referring to might be alt accounts from other members here. I've read a lot of threads here and some might have been deleted that these are farm accounts or alternate accounts thus could be one of the reasons why newbies are not allowed also to join signature campaigns. It makes sense too if they had made this rule because you need to learn a lot about the forum first before jumping into the water, right?

There are some companies that take newbies for signing. The truth some pay. Look better on the forum.

There's so many services within the forum where you can earn even you're a newbie. Go here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=240.0 (Tokens (Altcoins) where you can get an airdrop even you're new you can participate.

the reason is probably most of the beginners still lay with bitcointalk forums, terms, conditions and others they still do not understand as a whole, therefore rarely are there signatures that are reserved for beginners as for sure signatures for those who already get junior member rankings and so on

There are some reason why they not accept newbie in some bounty campaign because they are only beginners and their knowledge is not enough to post on forum wearing an avatar,they will represents the campaign and the managers need a lot of knowledge to post on forum.

Newbies are not considered appropriate for signature campaigns, if campaign managers start accepting such ranks, then anyone can create many accounts.
Don't you think anyone can build down signature campaigns as well as projects that is related to campaign by creating newbie accounts?
Thus it's necessary being higher ranked to apply for signature campaigns but as a newbie, you can join bounty

Even on bounty campaigns newbie is rarely acceptable and as being said its easy to create new accounts which means if a certain bounty campaign would decide to accept newbies then its really prone on such abuse since people can make lots of it and join it on that bounty which can possibly make them some serious cash if the project did succeed.For now i have seen most of bounties do accept Jr. Member atleast.

I see that there are some campaign that accepts newbie for their signature campaigns. You just need to check it here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=238.0 on bounties section and give some eye from checking those campaigns. But if I were the advertiser, their signature space isn't really visible to most of the members here but still try out your luck their newbies.

That's a sure thing and it's the reality tho.
Some newbies are loitering in the forum and don't have a proper knowledge and the worst they don't know anything and all they just want is to earn money in an easy way. I advice not to hurry things that in time they can join in signature or other social media campaigns but for the mean time better to earn knowledge.

we have bounty for newbie here in bounty(altcoins) section but you need to think or search first because some of campaigns are not legit so better to do is to know already that then prefer yourself if it's turn to scam or it's not legit,i think also before joining in some campaign think first to do trading while you having a activity here and wait for your rank up

Not totally no bounty signature campaigns for newbies, because some managers given a chance all participants to have a job in bitcoin community. Maybe it will happen due to continues increasing of coins and altcoins demand in the market, moreover value of all crypto currency now was too expensive.

But don't lose hope just continue posting, I know after a few weeks continue posting you can got a job or else try the other way like trading.

We have bounty signature campaigns for newbie in bounty(altcoins) but it's just rarely and i think that is nonsense question because you only need to wait atleast 1 or 2 months to rank up so i think wait in that time then try to join in any kinds of campaign,Moreover you can study some topic here in forum like trading while do a post to rank up then do join in campaign and also the earning in newbie rank is low so i think that is not worth it because it's little,usually the earning of jr.member rank is 0.002 btc so the newbie is 0.00050 btc it just a little

because newbies tends to spam or could lead to spam and abuse by users. they could possibly create a new account in order for them to participate many times in a campaign and also it  could lead to a lesser overall rewards . however  there were also campaigns that accepts newbies and most of them can be found in bounties altcoin section but there was once in marketplace services section although there might be rare and sometimes it is verry hard to join them because the managers are pretty strict.

Reasonable explanation, I strongly agree with that, every project would want maximum results, then they are looking for experienced hunters, and newbie certainly not in the category, because they are less experienced.

If you ask a lot of questions, then soon become a member of Jr, there will be more opportunities. Being a beginner is not at all a problem

it is so the rule.
the newbie is for learning only.
but there is also a signature that allows newbie.
my suggestion for newbie to join social media campaigns while waiting for leveling up

If you are a newbie, you still need to learn a lot from this forum and there is a tendency for you to just spam the forum to increase post count because you will be excited to complete your post count. It is just wise that most of the signature campaign starts from Jr. Member or above because given that you are active in the forum for a month, it is presumed that you already know the forum and signature campaign rules so that there would be a quality discussion in the forum. It would also benefit all the members of this forum because people would just contribute a quality post so we will learn a lot.

why isn't present?? them in making look fat enough, it is only necessary to choose long and to read as there are a lot of swindlers, but there are of course companies which take only from the highest rank, it seems to Ina they do only because a bit the rank isn't skilled, and can write spam instead of constructive messages

newbie still need learning that have to be developed in doing question or answer which is connected with forum ..
because most newbie do not understand the conversation that is in the forum

I see that more with sig campaigns, and that it because you have shown some investment of time in the account and some stick to it-ness. The same is likely true for the bounties. Although most bounties that I see are there for anyone, at least the one time goal variety.  Either way, just put the time into getting the account going and worry about other stuff later.

Of course it will cause spam on the forum and to the project as well. Imagine if they will allow newbie user to join, people will create and create account and join projects

Bounty campaigns has to be paid in the bitcoins only that too with the every week basis. Signature and bounties campaigns norms to stream lined to every campaign being opened here. Then we can find the people comes with the legit project alone only to promote it.

Getting the account and start focusing on future will not work because of recently implemented merit system. Newbies first learn more in the forum and construct the post which more likely to other then you can start earning the bounty tokens.

This would really be a big challenge for those new members on this forum which leveling would really be not easy already since they would really need merits for them to level up and so on for further ranks. Each campaign do really need some corresponding required level for you to be able to join and most of the time newbie cant really join up on signature campaigns due to spam and lack of knowledge.

People could make tons of accounts and just spam the bounties.
Not with the Merit, JR.Members could be treated like newbies lol

because they trust newbie and don't want cheaters create many account to cheat their bounty campaign. but there are some bounty accept newbie such as PECUNIO

That question also ran in my mind when I started to join in bounty campaigns. It's the best thing that they set that qualification on signature campaign which is limited to newbies. From the word itself  newbies means beginner. They should take time to know more about what to do when they get in the campaign. They should learn first on how and what to comment when they join. They need to earn trust from their writings first for them to rank up because if not their comments or messages will be deleted but if they do a good merit will definetely do.

Because newbies are obviously lack of knowledge and limited learnings about cryptocurrency, which is hard for them to contribute some thoughts to the community. That's maybe the big reason why newbies are no more qualified and strictly prohibited to participate to any campaign that are held in this forum.

Because some of them only post meaningless they don't have enough knowledge about crypto currency, But some ICO accept newbies on signatures campaigns . Visit this site to look for it https://bountylord.com/ .

No that is not the main reason on why newbies are very rare to participate in a campaign although it is posible to join a bounty even if your a newbie because in the altcoin bounty section some of the campaigns there are still acepting newbie ranks. newbies are limited because they can likely cause spamming and can also lead to greedinees because user  can always create multiple accounts in order to enroll in again and again on a single campaign. The campaign will drain dry if newbies will always accepted.

Not all the time, i think it is because of the signature, for newbie they can't wear signature with links or changing its font and colors so giving a signature campaign for newbies might look useless because the signature they are wearing is not catchy enough to get the attention of potential investors.

The main reason is the the newbies don't have signature links then how they can participate in the signature campaigns. ???

But there are some bounties which accepts newbies too but most of them who accepts newbies are scam projects never pay you at the end.And other reason for that is to avoid the spamming around the forum because they will tend to fill up their minimum quota for their campaign without any knowledge.

Signature is the issue and moreover if newbie who does not have proper knowledge promoting one project in the forum no knd will believe that that is trusted one.
Moreover this rule is healthy for the forum to avoid the knowledge less people to avoid the bounty earnings from the ICO project. Conclusion is same your point. To avoid the spamming.

Agree with you but if newbies are allowed to participate in bounties then the bounty hunters will make the forum into a play ground by creating thousands of new accounts just to participate in campaign.
But the main reason of this forum is to know about the crypto currencies not just to participate on the bounty campaigns.

Of course the newbie will make spam posts that's why they are not allowed in most of the signature campaigns.But the new merit system will take care of everything here after. :)
That is also a good point if newbie accounts are allowed then there will be lots of new accounts will be registered here then it will make the forum into garbage shit posting forum.

True but that's not the main point why most of the campaigns aren't accepting any newbies anymore.

The signature space for newbies - jr.members are not applicable for what the project initiators are looking for advertising their websites/projects/services.

It's visible to other members but it's not that really attractive because there's a limitation on the characters, colors and font size.

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Don't spam in the Bitcointalk because if the moderator gets the notification you account will get banned. So why don't you post them by opening specialized thread so that people who have the interest will start investing in your project.

The reason in the rules of this forum, newcomers can not leave an attractive signature, they can not put an avatar on their profile, the rank of the user on the forum also shows how experienced he is and what he can be trusted, but for beginners this is not)))

The newbie does not inspire confidence, besides the beginner is very limited in the possibilities on this forum, you can not leave a colorful signature and put the avatar on your profile

Do not worry))) to develop your profile on this forum is not so difficult, you just need to be an active user and do not write nonsense. Beginners can not participate in the bounty because the beginner has a lot of restrictions on this forum

Beginners are very unreliable, they can be irresponsible to tasks in the bounty, if everyone is allowed to participate in the bounty, then the forum will turn into a garbage dump from silly messages, but everyone will have a signature))) for this I believe that it is necessary to tighten the rules on the forum even harder to protect people who turn here with the help of stupid comments

In every industry, newbies will always have limited work and the payment will also be low because according to forum rules they are new to this crypto world, so they need to learn many before start joining the campaign. So most of the campaign will not allow the Newbies.

beginners can lightly treat work with the bounty not to fulfill their obligations, and this forum imposes great restrictions on newcomers, and if everyone is given work with the bounty, then the earnings will be too small if you divide the budget for all comers))))

because then the forum will turn into a garbage dump where everyone will write silly messages in order to improve statistics, and in a heap of this verbal garbage it will be difficult to find the necessary information

It is because Newbies won't post that much valuable that would catch the attention of other members that is why there is no signature for them. Paying for your post must make you create posts that are constructive, you could wait till you get Jr.Member for it only would take 1 Month and about a week, so just familiarize the forum with that time and try to engage with other members then you can use signature.

Newbies are not yet allowed to participate to any signature campaigns, because they are obviously lack of knowledge that can be hard for them to make a good quality post and to distribute a helpful post, that causes their spamming here in this forum. I think newbies don't need to be hurry of participating to signature campaigns, they need to take their time to learn more knowledge about crypto to be able to make a good quality and helpful post that will help them to earn merit and to level up their rank in sooner time, so that they can participate into any campaign they'd like in the future.

wrong. Ive seen several newbies that post just like a pro and they maybe even better when compared to some higher ranks. But majority of campaigns these days are now restricting newbies , not only newbie but also jr member and memer ranks. campaigns nowadays are only accepting full member and up , this is to ensure that they can avoid abusers and account farmers who have many alt accounts in order to spam the campaign.