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It's really unfortunate that politicians really have a long tenure in office, let's take into account the office of the Presidentm he must always be held accountable to the public but if he is given a four year tenure, he will do anything he likes without any ramifications to his actions until four years, I believe that a tenure of two years is good enough and we should abolish the term limits as well.

Its very clear why politicians lie and Ron Paul doesn't get it.
They lie to persuade and get elected, easy slogans, quick catchphrases, imaging.
This is what is going to get voters to vote, not complicated tax plans that noone will understand or read.
It became even more apparent that this is the case after Trump, post Trump democracy is going to be 100% persuasion and realityshow. Because it works.

I would have to agree with you on the fact that politicians should not be allowed to stay in office as long as they do. If it was looked at and treated as a public service, then we would avoid many of the issues we currently face. It truly is a cesspool of filth.

When all of your apples are bad that means that you are doing something wrong. Issue is obviously not the liars, but the system that forgives it. There are always bad people, but if they rise to the top, something is wrong.

To be honest, when talking about USA, it is hardly a democracy, it never really was. In the USA you get a minimum possible to still be called a democracy.
Democracy is when people make the choices, in USA you get 2 choices preselected for you by the parties. And you get 2 same parties forever, run by corporations with their campaign donations. On top of it all, you get electoral college as if two party system wasn't limiting enough for the power of democracy.

Majority of countries got it better, but politicians lie everywhere. At the end of the day, voters have to choose one, even if they are all liars.
I agree that the shorter term would help fix this problem, as it will let people see that they lied and be able to punish them more quickly for it.
I am not sure tho if there are some benefits of having a longer term.

It really is an eternal battle. One we will likely be fighting for all time.

I think there are a lot of problems with American politics in general. I would list this as one of them for sure. However it is more complicated that Politicians making promises that they do not keep. There should be more nuance to this than many want to allow there to be. For instance, if Donald Trump got into office and saw the whole mathematical equation behind building a wall along the border, and once confronted with that data changed his opinion then I would not be so quick to call him a liar. It would be misguided to say he could get it done, but not a malicious lie if he truly thought he could. My problem is with politicians inability to explain why or even if their opinions change. Hillary Clinton's exchange with Teri Gross is a perfect example of this. In a previous interview she had unequivocally said that marriage should be reserved for relationships between a man and a woman. Since 2014 that opinion changed. When confronted with this reversal she said her opinion had never changed and accused Teri of lying. It would have been much easier to swallow if she had just said that through meeting many gay couples and listening to their stories she softened her viewpoint and now no longer believes that marriage is an institution immutable from change.   

I have to agree, politics is a mess. It really is destroying entire families. But this is the price we pay.

Well when it comes down to this, it's politics. And sadly we all can simply say that it's just that 'politics' But here is the thing with Politicians, when they're trying to get elected they're trying to get voted from many different demographics, so it's not like they're going to be able to be truthful to everyone. As being truthful to everyone would lead them to offending certain groups and then not winning their election.

So sadly this is done by the reason to survive, as I don't think the culture will ever change in the US political system. Unless everyone is put under the mic and forced to be truthful, people aren't just going to be wonderful and nice all the time.

The real world is a scary place, with backdoor moves, deals, and horrible people. P

Lying to politicians is like cocaine for an addict.

All of them lie by omission by keeping their mouths shut about the true issues, the Fed, theft of freedom of speech by TV, mercury in vaccines, lawyers in our government, fluoride in our water and chemtrails.  None of our elected criminals will address these issues.

The very definition of politician from the online dictionary:    "a person who acts in a manipulative and devious way, typically to gain advancement within an organization."   Can't trust them.

When Libertarians like Dr Paul assert that government should not take care of people, he is apparently imagining, as most Republicans do, that people receiving government subsidies are lazy and undeserving. Lazy undeserving people definitely exist and I believe they project their own desire not to work onto physically and mentally disabled folks. Those who receive public assistance are carefully screened and are disabled. I think Dr Paul would agree that disabled folks need public subsidies, as would most Republicans agree. They simply default into thinking that people receiving subsidies simply don't want to work.

By and large I would have to agree, they cannot and should not be trusted. Some achieve good, simply because that good benefits them.

Politicians, like most people, put themselves first. I mean, a person has to be able to afford food and shelter which is fair. Unfortunately, this means they will prioritize "donors" first before the actual people that voted for them and put them in office. It wouldn't suprise me if most people that attempt to enter a government place, do it for the money and connections rather than changing or fixing the issues plaguing the poor. Average citizens will have to compete with 20 to 50 dollar donations.