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Title: Antminer D3 max temp
Post by: justinjja on September 25, 2017, 04:11:28 AM
I have been running L3+'s outside and they stay under 80.
I just moved a D3 outside and it is running in the low 90's is this too hot?

I can't find anything about the max temp on them.
I see people talking about running S9's at 100,
but then the L3+ has a check box to shut down at 80,
so I'm not sure where a D3 should be.

Thanks,
Justin


Title: Re: Antminer D3 max temp
Post by: bitcoinguy123 on September 25, 2017, 04:24:07 AM
I would be interested in this as well on the correct operating temperature range...

Would you mind posting a picture or two of your outside setup?  I am in process of getting things ready as I have my own little project to build out for.

You can reference what I am working on in this link.  phillipma gave me tons of great advice. 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2200357.0


Title: Re: Antminer D3 max temp
Post by: sil2222 on September 25, 2017, 05:14:50 AM
I have been running L3+'s outside and they stay under 80.
I just moved a D3 outside and it is running in the low 90's is this too hot?

I can't find anything about the max temp on them.
I see people talking about running S9's at 100,
but then the L3+ has a check box to shut down at 80,
so I'm not sure where a D3 should be.

Thanks,
Justin

80c is too high D3 becomes unstable at 70c+ which is when fan kicks in and you will get a ton of hard ware errors. You will be losing a lot of hashing also so its not good to run miner unstable. If miner is outside run fan at 100% this will bring your temp down and try down clocking to 456 frequency. 90c will cause miner to fail eventually. miner is stable at 60C-69C and hardware errors become almost 0. At 456 frequency miner hashes 16000 ,but you will get a lot less rejects. I was told by a tech at innosilicon once a chip hits 80c it will start to burn this is also true of video cards.


Title: Re: Antminer D3 max temp
Post by: justinjja on September 25, 2017, 12:54:36 PM
So if I'm not getting hardware errors I'm fine?
Been running 8 hrs at 85c and 0 hw.
(but it's coolerat night)

Also this is a bitmain device not inosilicon, max temps could be completely different.


Title: Re: Antminer D3 max temp
Post by: justinjja on September 26, 2017, 05:04:02 AM
Fan on auto doesn't hit 100% until about 90c,
So I would guess anything under 90c is ok.


Title: Re: Antminer D3 max temp
Post by: sil2222 on September 26, 2017, 10:30:54 AM
Fan on auto doesn't hit 100% until about 90c,
So I would guess anything under 90c is ok.

Ive never heard of a chip running at 90c being ok. Nvidea 1080 with Asus aftermarket heavy duty heat sinks would have thermal breakdown at 90c. You should contact Bitmain and ask them they usually reply within 3 days,but I would not risk 90c on any device. Weird thing is on D3 i tested the fans kick in 100% when chip reaches 71c,but you say on yours it kicks in at 90C ?


Title: Re: Antminer D3 max temp
Post by: Chan8 on September 28, 2017, 04:47:42 PM
Fan on auto doesn't hit 100% until about 90c,
So I would guess anything under 90c is ok.

Ive never heard of a chip running at 90c being ok. Nvidea 1080 with Asus aftermarket heavy duty heat sinks would have thermal breakdown at 90c. You should contact Bitmain and ask them they usually reply within 3 days,but I would not risk 90c on any device. Weird thing is on D3 i tested the fans kick in 100% when chip reaches 71c,but you say on yours it kicks in at 90C ?

I 100% agree, I don't think any chip should be running at 90c.. something will definitely happen. might not be now, but you will see something start failing soon.


Title: Re: Antminer D3 max temp
Post by: Mr_Snipes on September 28, 2017, 08:30:45 PM
Fan on auto doesn't hit 100% until about 90c,
So I would guess anything under 90c is ok.

Ive never heard of a chip running at 90c being ok. Nvidea 1080 with Asus aftermarket heavy duty heat sinks would have thermal breakdown at 90c. You should contact Bitmain and ask them they usually reply within 3 days,but I would not risk 90c on any device. Weird thing is on D3 i tested the fans kick in 100% when chip reaches 71c,but you say on yours it kicks in at 90C ?

Friend of mine had Chips failing at temps over 70C° - after cranking up fanspeed its fine. The way the fan-control works now is bugged imo. They will most likely change it in a more recent firmware.


Title: Re: Antminer D3 max temp
Post by: noam46 on November 27, 2017, 06:09:04 AM
are you guys talking about 90 calculus? or Fahrenheit?

im running at 80-85, is this ok?


Title: Re: Antminer D3 max temp
Post by: Mr_Snipes on November 27, 2017, 07:12:09 PM
C° = Celsius
°F= Farenheit
The Bitmain-gui always shows C°


Title: Re: Antminer D3 max temp
Post by: Crypto-Age on November 27, 2017, 07:59:30 PM
85-90 deggree is really dangerous.
This machine works 50-70*C as optimum.
It is healty for your asic lifetime.


Title: Re: Antminer D3 max temp
Post by: flip909 on November 27, 2017, 08:43:42 PM
I have been running L3+'s outside and they stay under 80.
I just moved a D3 outside and it is running in the low 90's is this too hot?

I can't find anything about the max temp on them.
I see people talking about running S9's at 100,
but then the L3+ has a check box to shut down at 80,
so I'm not sure where a D3 should be.

Thanks,
Justin

80c is too high D3 becomes unstable at 70c+ which is when fan kicks in and you will get a ton of hard ware errors. You will be losing a lot of hashing also so its not good to run miner unstable. If miner is outside run fan at 100% this will bring your temp down and try down clocking to 456 frequency. 90c will cause miner to fail eventually. miner is stable at 60C-69C and hardware errors become almost 0. At 456 frequency miner hashes 16000 ,but you will get a lot less rejects. I was told by a tech at innosilicon once a chip hits 80c it will start to burn this is also true of video cards.

My D3 19.3 GH from factory is running at 78 Degrees on 1 board. others range 70 - 74. I wanted to overclock but don't know about temps of chips. how can >70 be an issue if mine form factory is like this as standard.



Title: Re: Antminer D3 max temp
Post by: krzy on November 30, 2017, 07:14:33 AM
https://imgur.com/a/5Kcy3

Am I fine with these? I don't get it, I have it outside in cold winter and it's still overheating? How the fuck am I supposed to cool it down then?

I get 0 HWs though, thoughts?


Title: Re: Antminer D3 max temp
Post by: dlezama on November 30, 2017, 08:00:44 AM
Fan on auto doesn't hit 100% until about 90c,
So I would guess anything under 90c is ok.

Ive never heard of a chip running at 90c being ok. Nvidea 1080 with Asus aftermarket heavy duty heat sinks would have thermal breakdown at 90c. You should contact Bitmain and ask them they usually reply within 3 days,but I would not risk 90c on any device. Weird thing is on D3 i tested the fans kick in 100% when chip reaches 71c,but you say on yours it kicks in at 90C ?

It's common for example for automotive grade chips to support up to 125C. As someone else said, it depends on the chip. Lots of opinions in this thread, but I wonder what are their sources, definitely not a data sheet :) This is the only thing I've found in the manual, note that it refers to PCB temp, not the chip:
Note: The D3 miner will stop running when the Temp(PCB) exceeds to 85°C, there will be an error message “Fatal Error: Temperature is too high!” shown in the bottom of kernel log page.

In my case I'll worry if they get close to 90 or if I see more than a few HW errors per hour (the D3 is a useless heater anyway, so why worry?  >:()



Title: Re: Antminer D3 max temp
Post by: wonseok4840 on December 01, 2017, 04:36:37 AM
My D3 is the 19.3GH/s batch, and it is running very hot. Like, VERY, VERY hot. The ambient temperature is not that hot, and it is in my basement. The weird thing is, the PCB temperature is very good (High 50's), but the chip temperature is boiling hot. It is around 80 degrees, and the one of the ASIC boards are always an outcast in terms of the temperature. One time, one ASIC board was 120 degrees, and the rest was on the low 80's. Another time, it was on the 50's, and the rest was on the 80's. What kind of problem would that be? Any help is appreciated.


Title: Re: Antminer D3 max temp
Post by: wonseok4840 on December 01, 2017, 04:50:54 AM
Also, when I looked at the kernel log, it said that there was a temperature offset. That was the case with all 3 of my D3's, and the offset value was random as well. Is there a way to fix this?


Title: Re: Antminer D3 max temp
Post by: flip909 on December 05, 2017, 02:26:33 PM
My D3 is the 19.3GH/s batch, and it is running very hot. Like, VERY, VERY hot. The ambient temperature is not that hot, and it is in my basement. The weird thing is, the PCB temperature is very good (High 50's), but the chip temperature is boiling hot. It is around 80 degrees, and the one of the ASIC boards are always an outcast in terms of the temperature. One time, one ASIC board was 120 degrees, and the rest was on the low 80's. Another time, it was on the 50's, and the rest was on the 80's. What kind of problem would that be? Any help is appreciated.

wow

I have 1 19.3 D3 i dont want to overclock since its running hot anyway but yours is far too hot surely?

Contact Bitmain and send them logs. they will advise.


Title: Re: Antminer D3 max temp
Post by: clyjr on December 05, 2017, 02:38:36 PM
My D3 is the 19.3GH/s batch, and it is running very hot. Like, VERY, VERY hot. The ambient temperature is not that hot, and it is in my basement. The weird thing is, the PCB temperature is very good (High 50's), but the chip temperature is boiling hot. It is around 80 degrees, and the one of the ASIC boards are always an outcast in terms of the temperature. One time, one ASIC board was 120 degrees, and the rest was on the low 80's. Another time, it was on the 50's, and the rest was on the 80's. What kind of problem would that be? Any help is appreciated.

When one is reporting really high, then really low, and seems to alternate like that, it's not a valid reading.   It's a bug, most of the time you can unplug the miner for a few minutes, plug it back in and the temps are all correct (within a few degrees of each other).   One of mine does this when I change settings sometimes but it always gets fixed with a hard reset (unplug/wait/plug)


Title: Re: Antminer D3 max temp
Post by: nguyenthong on December 05, 2017, 03:06:30 PM
Great


Title: Re: Antminer D3 max temp
Post by: wonseok4840 on December 12, 2017, 04:39:56 AM
Now, it is doing weirder stuff. I tried to flash the latest firmware, but even after that, there were other errors. I got rid of the heat problem by running it in my garage at winter time, but the problem is that the chips don't get found. There are supposed to be 60 chips on one hashing board, but for me, it always changes from time to time. Once, it only detected 54, (Not X's on the chip status, the chips were just plain out missing), and once, it detected all 60, but 3 were dead (X). To make matters worse, it got 2000 HW errors in less than a minute! I will be sure contact bitmain about this, but honestly, I don't know......


Title: Re: Antminer D3 max temp
Post by: Faustofsky on December 12, 2017, 04:46:38 AM
Hi, I am new (sorry) are we talking PCB temp, or chip Temp? . On my D3 , the PCB Temp is about 55-60 degrees and the chip arround 78 -95 depending on the hour of the day . Is this operating temp, ok? Thanks


Title: Re: Antminer D3 max temp
Post by: wonseok4840 on December 12, 2017, 05:41:21 AM
Hi, I am new (sorry) are we talking PCB temp, or chip Temp? . On my D3 , the PCB Temp is about 55-60 degrees and the chip arround 78 -95 depending on the hour of the day . Is this operating temp, ok? Thanks
Do you see anything on the HW error section? If there are a lot of them, then it's not okay. My chip temperature is around 80 to 90 when factoring in the temperature offset there was. At that temperature, I got some HW errors.


Title: Re: Antminer D3 max temp
Post by: Shitcointalk on December 12, 2017, 05:52:53 AM
This D3 is pretty unstable, nothing to compare with L3+ or S9. And it seems that there is different versions of it, not only different frequency setting.

Anyway, Bitmain over-clocked them to 537 frequency which is too high, unless you live in Siberia. You will most likely have a lot of HW, boards showing xxx everyday, and have to reboot your miner pretty often.
From what I have seen, you should try to stay under 80C to avoid trouble, and extend your D3 life. Seems like a general consensus.
You can set your fan manually at 100% if you don't care about the noise, or you can reduce the frequency until you get something stable. I was running good at 506 with auto fan (now running undervolt / silent mode).

Hi, I am new (sorry) are we talking PCB temp, or chip Temp? . On my D3 , the PCB Temp is about 55-60 degrees and the chip arround 78 -95 depending on the hour of the day . Is this operating temp, ok? Thanks

You should focus on the Chip temp. BUT some units have defective temp sensor and get unreliable stats, in that case go for the PCB. Again, 95C is too high, might work for a while, but definitely not good for your miner. keep under 80 as much as possible.


Title: Re: Antminer D3 max temp
Post by: Stargirlinsapporo on December 20, 2017, 12:28:54 AM
I live in Siberia  :)

Was looking for any information about possible lowest operating temperature for D3. It shows -44C today. Was wondering if I put ASIC outside in the shed without heating would it work? Is there any other limitation to overclock except for temperature?


Title: Re: Antminer D3 max temp
Post by: Shitcointalk on December 20, 2017, 04:23:49 AM
I live in Siberia  :)

Was looking for any information about possible lowest operating temperature for D3. It shows -44C today. Was wondering if I put ASIC outside in the shed without heating would it work? Is there any other limitation to overclock except for temperature?

-44C...  :o  I am freezing just thinking about it !

I have read in another thread that cold isn't such a big deal while running, BUT the miner won't start if it was off for some reason. I think the guy just turned his miners so they would blow hot air at each other, to heat them up.
I think in your case, temperature shouldn't be a problem even if over-clocked a little. You might run under-volt if you over-clock too much, but I guess the HW number will tell you if you are good to go or not. In anyway, I wouldn't over-clocked them too much as they are already OC at 537, and it will damage your hardware faster.

But as I live myself in a tropical country, I am certainly not the best to answer your questions. Maybe try to ask on Blissz firmware topic to get "expert" opinion.


Title: Re: Antminer D3 max temp
Post by: Wananavu99 on December 20, 2017, 04:24:44 AM
Fan on auto doesn't hit 100% until about 90c,
So I would guess anything under 90c is ok.

Ive never heard of a chip running at 90c being ok. Nvidea 1080 with Asus aftermarket heavy duty heat sinks would have thermal breakdown at 90c. You should contact Bitmain and ask them they usually reply within 3 days,but I would not risk 90c on any device. Weird thing is on D3 i tested the fans kick in 100% when chip reaches 71c,but you say on yours it kicks in at 90C ?

It's common for example for automotive grade chips to support up to 125C. As someone else said, it depends on the chip. Lots of opinions in this thread, but I wonder what are their sources, definitely not a data sheet :) This is the only thing I've found in the manual, note that it refers to PCB temp, not the chip:
Note: The D3 miner will stop running when the Temp(PCB) exceeds to 85°C, there will be an error message “Fatal Error: Temperature is too high!” shown in the bottom of kernel log page.

In my case I'll worry if they get close to 90 or if I see more than a few HW errors per hour (the D3 is a useless heater anyway, so why worry?  >:()



Not if DASH goes up to $2000 it won't be useless anymore and with current projections we may be looking at a DASH price of $2k in either June or July and that's being conservative. 


Title: Re: Antminer D3 max temp
Post by: Stargirlinsapporo on December 23, 2017, 01:47:09 PM
I live in Siberia  :)

Was looking for any information about possible lowest operating temperature for D3. It shows -44C today. Was wondering if I put ASIC outside in the shed without heating would it work? Is there any other limitation to overclock except for temperature?

-44C...  :o  I am freezing just thinking about it !

I have read in another thread that cold isn't such a big deal while running, BUT the miner won't start if it was off for some reason. I think the guy just turned his miners so they would blow hot air at each other, to heat them up.
I think in your case, temperature shouldn't be a problem even if over-clocked a little. You might run under-volt if you over-clock too much, but I guess the HW number will tell you if you are good to go or not. In anyway, I wouldn't over-clocked them too much as they are already OC at 537, and it will damage your hardware faster.

But as I live myself in a tropical country, I am certainly not the best to answer your questions. Maybe try to ask on Blissz firmware topic to get "expert" opinion.

Thank you so much for your reply and suggestion
As I couldn't find any similar mention online I just had to try temperature conditions myself
This is how I run ASIC miner in cold conditions
It was -44 to -46C outside these days where I leave. So it was clear I had to start the machine up somehow. It was running indoors for sometime first and then I quickly moved it to the unheated shed with all the cables installed. My concern was that when plastic parts get cold at low temperatures they can be easily broken if bended. It appeared that temperature in the shed was much warmer than outside (some particular property of permafrost soils to keep warm) and after asic was plugged soon temperature started to rise.
After 1 day of running asic temperature in the shed rose to +1C which occurred to be very sweet. Fans were running between 2900-3100 (#1) and 3800-4000 (#2) rpm, Temp(PCB) 43-45C, Temp(Chip) 61-63C
Now temperature in the shed is still slowly rising (about +5C at the moment with -43C outside, no heating, asic is making greenhouse effect and heats environment by itself). Fans are increasing speed day by day, so I am thinking to open one small vent hole (???) to keep temperature in the shed constantly low.
Still looking for ways to overclock maybe
And perhaps will use produced heat from asic to run small greenhouse in February or March and grow greenies early in the coming year :)
Happy coming New Year! :)


Title: Re: Antminer D3 max temp
Post by: isukabtc on December 28, 2017, 09:49:02 AM
I got D3 with 19.3 Ghs speed, ambience temp is 16c, and I put the hot air from miner to outside. With default set (19.3 ghs) its temperature has 1 chain 77C and 2 chain 84C with 0% error. I dont know what temperature I got if my AC turn off and I dont dare to try it :-\

Its feel like D3 has better durability OR they just push the chip to push the sales, then stop production to make less risk for them since there are no D3 in hashnest..


Title: Re: Antminer D3 max temp
Post by: Shitcointalk on December 28, 2017, 12:40:51 PM
I live in Siberia  :)

Was looking for any information about possible lowest operating temperature for D3. It shows -44C today. Was wondering if I put ASIC outside in the shed without heating would it work? Is there any other limitation to overclock except for temperature?

-44C...  :o  I am freezing just thinking about it !

I have read in another thread that cold isn't such a big deal while running, BUT the miner won't start if it was off for some reason. I think the guy just turned his miners so they would blow hot air at each other, to heat them up.
I think in your case, temperature shouldn't be a problem even if over-clocked a little. You might run under-volt if you over-clock too much, but I guess the HW number will tell you if you are good to go or not. In anyway, I wouldn't over-clocked them too much as they are already OC at 537, and it will damage your hardware faster.

But as I live myself in a tropical country, I am certainly not the best to answer your questions. Maybe try to ask on Blissz firmware topic to get "expert" opinion.

Thank you so much for your reply and suggestion
As I couldn't find any similar mention online I just had to try temperature conditions myself
This is how I run ASIC miner in cold conditions
It was -44 to -46C outside these days where I leave. So it was clear I had to start the machine up somehow. It was running indoors for sometime first and then I quickly moved it to the unheated shed with all the cables installed. My concern was that when plastic parts get cold at low temperatures they can be easily broken if bended. It appeared that temperature in the shed was much warmer than outside (some particular property of permafrost soils to keep warm) and after asic was plugged soon temperature started to rise.
After 1 day of running asic temperature in the shed rose to +1C which occurred to be very sweet. Fans were running between 2900-3100 (#1) and 3800-4000 (#2) rpm, Temp(PCB) 43-45C, Temp(Chip) 61-63C
Now temperature in the shed is still slowly rising (about +5C at the moment with -43C outside, no heating, asic is making greenhouse effect and heats environment by itself). Fans are increasing speed day by day, so I am thinking to open one small vent hole (???) to keep temperature in the shed constantly low.
Still looking for ways to overclock maybe
And perhaps will use produced heat from asic to run small greenhouse in February or March and grow greenies early in the coming year :)
Happy coming New Year! :)

I would say: try to keep it between +5C and +15C so you don't have to worry about frozen plastic, or miner that won't start because of the cold. Plus it will be perfect to start your seedling earlier in the season !


Title: Re: Antminer D3 max temp
Post by: Shitcointalk on December 28, 2017, 12:45:41 PM
I got D3 with 19.3 Ghs speed, ambience temp is 16c, and I put the hot air from miner to outside. With default set (19.3 ghs) its temperature has 1 chain 77C and 2 chain 84C with 0% error. I dont know what temperature I got if my AC turn off and I dont dare to try it :-\

Its feel like D3 has better durability OR they just push the chip to push the sales, then stop production to make less risk for them since there are no D3 in hashnest..


You shouldn't stay over 80C, even without HW. Lower the frequency a little so you don't burn your miner too fast.


Title: Re: Antminer D3 max temp
Post by: isukabtc on December 28, 2017, 04:07:42 PM
I got D3 with 19.3 Ghs speed, ambience temp is 16c, and I put the hot air from miner to outside. With default set (19.3 ghs) its temperature has 1 chain 77C and 2 chain 84C with 0% error. I dont know what temperature I got if my AC turn off and I dont dare to try it :-\

Its feel like D3 has better durability OR they just push the chip to push the sales, then stop production to make less risk for them since there are no D3 in hashnest..


You shouldn't stay over 80C, even without HW. Lower the frequency a little so you don't burn your miner too fast.

Sad... It was good almost a week. I will use blissz firmway now, its already hw anyway (5%)..


Title: Re: Antminer D3 max temp
Post by: fbturin on March 11, 2018, 09:01:32 AM
Thank you guys! You have been so helpful!

I just got mine yesterday and the chip was running up to 81. So now that I lowed the frequency to 487 the HWs have gone WAY down and the temp is under 80 now. And now it is showing all circles instead of mostly X's on the first chip.

Hash rate went up to 17.7 too. I live in Florida but I'm keeping it in the house. I have a floor fan blowing in the room it's in too. When summer comes i'll have to keep a close eye but I think most of the heat is coming from the unit itself.

Thanks again for your help guys. The last poster that showed the response from their customer service was a big help. I'd rather this unit last a long time instead of burning it up!

And yes I do think dash will get up to a grand this year too. This is going to be a good money maker!

take care,

frtiz


Title: Re: Antminer D3 max temp
Post by: charlie137 on May 05, 2018, 02:24:06 PM
i know its an old thread and d3 profit is $1.6 at constant exchange flow, but i can not find the information regarding chip temp. some people stating that over 70 is not good, other opinion goes with 80 as normal temp since chips are targeted for heavy duty usage. using custom firmware to reduce fan speed since 3Ghs difference is not worth the electric expenses. could somebody share specs fror chip manufacturers? couldn't find anything useful on texas indstrs