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Title: What Will Be Happen?
Post by: PepperaOnIt on September 28, 2017, 11:48:19 AM
So Guys because im new to this bitcoin i want to know, what will happen if you send a token to a wallet that is not supported in that wallet?


Title: Re: What Will Be Happen?
Post by: Marvell1 on September 28, 2017, 12:02:48 PM
If you send ERC20 token to another ethereum address and the wallet doesn't support ERC20 tokens you will just see nothing. But, instead, these tokens will be belong to that address and, for example, if you import secret key of that address to the wallet that supports ERC20 tokens (for instance myetherwallet) you will be able to see and manage them.


Title: Re: What Will Be Happen?
Post by: PepperaOnIt on September 28, 2017, 12:06:45 PM
If you send ERC20 token to another ethereum address and the wallet doesn't support ERC20 tokens you will just see nothing. But, instead, these tokens will be belong to that address and, for example, if you import secret key of that address to the wallet that supports ERC20 tokens (for instance myetherwallet) you will be able to see and manage them.
Thank you ver much sir
Can you help me how these will happen in myethwallet?


Title: Re: What Will Be Happen?
Post by: auliahr on September 28, 2017, 12:07:48 PM
So Guys because im new to this bitcoin i want to know, what will happen if you send a token to a wallet that is not supported in that wallet?
Very easy answer, your token must be lost. From my experience was ever lost because the wallet received does not support alt which I send.
So you send what and send where?


Title: Re: What Will Be Happen?
Post by: PepperaOnIt on September 28, 2017, 12:16:58 PM
So Guys because im new to this bitcoin i want to know, what will happen if you send a token to a wallet that is not supported in that wallet?
Very easy answer, your token must be lost. From my experience was ever lost because the wallet received does not support alt which I send.
So you send what and send where?
Is that really lost? Or it will not send to that address because its not supported?


Title: Re: What Will Be Happen?
Post by: Blakscorpion on September 28, 2017, 12:17:15 PM
It's like sending cryptocurrencies to the wrong adress. You can try and it'll work, but you won't see it back.


Title: Re: What Will Be Happen?
Post by: shandi albert on September 28, 2017, 12:20:21 PM
It's good we have to be really careful before making transactions such as transfers and so forth
Save the address of your wallet and your key wallet to avoid / anticipate from negligence and loss.
because I've been like that
thank you :'(


Title: Re: What Will Be Happen?
Post by: martyMC on September 28, 2017, 12:22:08 PM
It's the address the important thing! If you own the private key of the address, no matter the software of your wallet


Title: Re: What Will Be Happen?
Post by: martyMC on September 28, 2017, 12:26:08 PM
If you send ERC20 token to another ethereum address and the wallet doesn't support ERC20 tokens you will just see nothing. But, instead, these tokens will be belong to that address and, for example, if you import secret key of that address to the wallet that supports ERC20 tokens (for instance myetherwallet) you will be able to see and manage them.
I agree with that. You juste need to use your private key in a good wallet.


Title: Re: What Will Be Happen?
Post by: CoinSavvy on September 28, 2017, 12:43:11 PM
You need to go to https://ethplorer.io/ and explore about your token and its decimals.
All other necessary information you can find directly on the website of MyEtherWallet (MEW), e.g. https://myetherwallet.groovehq.com/knowledge_base/topics/how-to-see-a-new-token-in-myetherwallet .
Any additional questions could be searched on the same website or addressed to the MEW community.


Title: Re: What Will Be Happen?
Post by: PepperaOnIt on September 28, 2017, 01:02:16 PM
You need to go to https://ethplorer.io/ and explore about your token and its decimals.
All other necessary information you can find directly on the website of MyEtherWallet (MEW), e.g. https://myetherwallet.groovehq.com/knowledge_base/topics/how-to-see-a-new-token-in-myetherwallet .
Any additional questions could be searched on the same website or addressed to the MEW community.

Do you have idea to do it in my waveswallet becausr i already know how to do that in myetherwallet?


Title: Re: What Will Be Happen?
Post by: coupable on September 28, 2017, 01:05:52 PM
Using a UTC file strengthened by a strong password is the best way ever to secure our wallets when using MEW instead of the private key. About tokens, it's easy to add a custom token to your ether wallet by provide the address of the new asset, its decimal and the name abbreviation. All those details can be easily found at https://ethplorer.io/ for any Erc20 token. New tokens are not shown in your wallet at MEW but when scanning it (address) at https://etherscan.io/ you can see all the tokens held in it; it is important to add each token details at MEW to be able to see and manage it. There are a lot of tutorials that can help noobs and many many articles about beginning with Ethereum. Just google it  8)


Title: Re: What Will Be Happen?
Post by: adam1230 on September 28, 2017, 01:08:38 PM
If you have secret key of that wallet simply import that wallet to myetherwallet. Then you will see tokens are there.
If you cannot get secret key say good bye to your tokens.


Title: Re: What Will Be Happen?
Post by: martyMC on September 28, 2017, 01:10:30 PM
Using a UTC file strengthened by a strong password is the best way ever to secure our wallets when using MEW instead of the private key. About tokens, it's easy to add a custom token to your ether wallet by provide the address of the new asset, its decimal and the name abbreviation. All those details can be easily found at https://ethplorer.io/ for any Erc20 token. New tokens are not shown in your wallet at MEW but when scanning it (address) at https://etherscan.io/ you can see all the tokens held in it; it is important to add each token details at MEW to be able to see and manage it. There are a lot of tutorials that can help noobs and many many articles about beginning with Ethereum. Just google it  8)
No I don't think it's important to do that. You just need to wait MEW for adding the token.


Title: Re: What Will Be Happen?
Post by: notyours on September 28, 2017, 02:34:30 PM
Hello all, he was my friend.

i just make a thread for help, and see this thread which i delete my post and paste a qoute here for more information in what happened to him. 

Hi to all the readers at this section,

My friend was a newbie at altcoin and I have a concern about what happened in his situation in the campaign but before that let me tell you a story: he doesn't get the mechanics in altcoin but, at first i told him the two wallet he can use waveswallet and myetherwallet which can be used storing a ethereum coin,the campaign was ethereum base, as i teaching my friend he do mistake about the campaign, Aventus campaign who is erc20 token, my friend does wrong in submitting a ethereum address instead of using myetherwallet he use the waveswallet ( because he does know that waveswallet doesn't support other token that erc20) and get the ethereum address there which mean he lost all the coin..

in this situation, is there any chance he can get the token back, or will be gone forever ?

As he pm the manager, it said that he must know how to use the ethereum works and looks like no chance of getting it back.

As i talk to him, he is willing to provide all the information needed at this situation like the waveswallet account that used in the campaign to check that this really happened and can't get the token.

We can see the token in the ethereum address he use ( waveswallet) i think there is a posibility of getting it?

0x13570735C70852C9559E6Fc21Fd628B0Ec63d5Ba  this is the address he get from waveswallet, by finding a way i see this: https://etherscan.io/address/0x13570735c70852c9559e6fc21fd628b0ec63d5ba which mean in that address the token was visible, are waveswallet ethereum was using also a ethereum address that accept erc20 token?


Title: Re: What Will Be Happen?
Post by: goinmerry on September 28, 2017, 07:37:36 PM
So Guys because im new to this bitcoin i want to know, what will happen if you send a token to a wallet that is not supported in that wallet?

It depends on what token is involved in your concern. If they are on the same network then the token is still there, it's just that your wallet is not supporting token transfers that's why it doesn't reflecting in the account.

So Guys because im new to this bitcoin i want to know, what will happen if you send a token to a wallet that is not supported in that wallet?
Very easy answer, your token must be lost. From my experience was ever lost because the wallet received does not support alt which I send.
So you send what and send where?
Is that really lost? Or it will not send to that address because its not supported?

It was send and the address you used owned those tokens. But like I said, because it's not supported, the tokens are invisible. Want to know more details.


Title: Re: What Will Be Happen?
Post by: notyours on September 29, 2017, 05:54:56 AM
So Guys because im new to this bitcoin i want to know, what will happen if you send a token to a wallet that is not supported in that wallet?

It depends on what token is involved in your concern. If they are on the same network then the token is still there, it's just that your wallet is not supporting token transfers that's why it doesn't reflecting in the account.

So Guys because im new to this bitcoin i want to know, what will happen if you send a token to a wallet that is not supported in that wallet?
Very easy answer, your token must be lost. From my experience was ever lost because the wallet received does not support alt which I send.
So you send what and send where?
Is that really lost? Or it will not send to that address because its not supported?

It was send and the address you used owned those tokens. But like I said, because it's not supported, the tokens are invisible. Want to know more details.

Kindly read my post in the top of your reply, there is the details,

Basically he use the waveswallet for getting a eth address and submit it to avt

Avt doesnt know that the address was from waveswallet and send the token to it

Waveswallet doesnt support erc20 tokens
But when i see the avt token was visible in the eth address
When you go on etherscan and scan the waveswallet eth address, it means that the eth address of the waveswallet was also a erc20 supported but waveswallet site just dont just support?


Title: Re: What Will Be Happen?
Post by: deepcryptomine on September 29, 2017, 06:13:58 AM
If you send ERC20 token to another ethereum address and the wallet doesn't support ERC20 tokens you will just see nothing. But, instead, these tokens will be belong to that address and, for example, if you import secret key of that address to the wallet that supports ERC20 tokens (for instance myetherwallet) you will be able to see and manage them.

I made the similar mistake. Blockchain.info started supporting ethereum but not ERC20 tokens and by mistake I sent the token to blockchain.info's Eth address instead of myetherwallet. I don't think blockchain.info gives private key so I think my tokens are lost forever.


Title: Re: What Will Be Happen?
Post by: sweerty1 on September 29, 2017, 08:28:12 AM
As I know %99 chance that your coins are becoming lost. I am sure there are dozens of people everyday losing their coins. Which is actually very healthy for market prices. lol. It is truth.


Title: Re: What Will Be Happen?
Post by: Cnut237 on September 29, 2017, 08:28:29 AM
So Guys because im new to this bitcoin i want to know, what will happen if you send a token to a wallet that is not supported in that wallet?

If you send it to the wrong address it will be lost and can't be retreived. If you send it to the correct address then sometimes (with ERC20 tokens) you can add the coin to the wallet manually and then the coins will appear.


Title: Re: What Will Be Happen?
Post by: CryptoLex on September 29, 2017, 09:24:40 AM
Well, you will lose them.. I did it once and I lost them.. luckily it was just a small amount of BTC  :o


Title: Re: What Will Be Happen?
Post by: Prodigan786 on September 29, 2017, 09:32:13 AM
It’s really good question if your transferring the token from one platform to another like eth to bitcoin it won’t effect but when your transferring tokens to exchanges like erc20 to erc20 have to careful about token address in the exchange.


Title: Re: What Will Be Happen?
Post by: notyours on September 29, 2017, 11:51:21 AM
This was the info of the waveswallet etherum address https://etherscan.io/token/0x0d88ed6e74bbfd96b831231638b66c05571e824f?a=0x13570735c70852c9559e6fc21fd628b0ec63d5ba

we can see the token there, it was visible

Possible that the dev of waveswallet will help so that he can get the token


Title: Re: What Will Be Happen?
Post by: syaripudin on September 29, 2017, 12:33:42 PM
It seems if you give the address of the wallet that does not support the token to be sent of course the token will not be sent meaning you will not receive bitcoin. because of the address error from sending the token itself and I've experienced it. indeed this is very detrimental to me because until now I do not know if I can still fix the wrong address that I already sent. this should be a lesson for all of us to avoid making a second mistake so that we do not experience a second loss. I think we need to find information about an accurate wallet address with the token to be sent. look for highly accurate information from various sources on trustworthy internation sites


Title: Re: What Will Be Happen?
Post by: PepperaOnIt on October 06, 2017, 02:56:45 PM
It's like sending cryptocurrencies to the wrong adress. You can try and it'll work, but you won't see it back.
Yes i already checked and i think its already confirmed that i cant have it, but i already move on and i learned a lot for the next time.


Title: Re: What Will Be Happen?
Post by: PepperaOnIt on October 06, 2017, 03:18:27 PM
As I know %99 chance that your coins are becoming lost. I am sure there are dozens of people everyday losing their coins. Which is actually very healthy for market prices. lol. It is truth.
Thanks, its nice to hear that im not the only one who lost a coin, but my coin is a big amount, but i already move on and learn something


Title: Re: What Will Be Happen?
Post by: Svelto on October 06, 2017, 03:46:43 PM
It's like sending cryptocurrencies to the wrong adress. You can try and it'll work, but you won't see it back.
Yes i already checked and i think its already confirmed that i cant have it, but i already move on and i learned a lot for the next time.

Sorry for your losses. One more thing to take note, don’t send ERC20 tokens to ETH address in an exchange. In this case, you won’t be able to recover the ERC20 tokens too.