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Title: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on September 28, 2017, 12:59:31 PM
Without any shadow of a doubt, WTC is a scam.

Get out while you can!

There is no reliable record of the team i.e. linking them and their experience to the project.
Try and find evidence linking the supposed former VP of Samsung to Samsung and the project.

This forum and Reddit is full of very blatant WTC shills. The comments on Reddit are beyond belief.

Listed on only one exchange, with a relatively small number of tokens (compared to similar projects) the price looks like it is being manipulated.

They are pretending to win a competition that does not exist. The "Jinjiang Competition" - there is no reliable source for this whatsoever. This is an unverified/fake news http://www.kinews.net/news/articleView.html?idxno=110897
Seriously, they have just won a major competition - logos stuck on t-shirts, with a dodgy banner outside a sports centre. I've been to plenty of award ceremonies and competition results, this is a joke.

The website is poorly developed. If these people are serious/investable why can't they design a website or t-shirts. And it's called Walton coin. Serious business people would be much, much slicker than this.

I suspect a lot of effort has gone into making this appear credible but it isn't. Some people have seen big returns this week and are talking about market cap increase to $1billion+ and are dismissing my point of view with comments like "ah, well, things are lost in translation. they all have similar names and everyone is VP at Samsung. Western news would not cover the competition" etc.

You have been warned!

My only interest is for good people not to lose money.

For the record, my investments are: Waves, Wagerr, Zcoin, District0X, ARK and Monero.

I have no conflicts of interest and nothing to gain from this post.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Vansire on September 28, 2017, 01:20:00 PM
Not having Slack is a good thing though, too many fake accounts phishing for ether wallets on there.



Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on September 28, 2017, 02:01:50 PM
Further update:

Here is the whois information:

https://www.whois.com/whois/waltonchain.org

These registration details have been used in several scams e.g. hookwhois.org

A fake "your who is details have expired, click here to renew".

https://myonlinesecurity.co.uk/yet-another-whois-registration-scam/

Scroll down to the bottom of the page. Same details including the wonderful "No.999 Liang Mu Road Yuhang District" address.

And.... TankIn.net / sliver.me / jpsheath.org / .... all linked to scams.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Korlua on September 28, 2017, 02:53:55 PM
Why's SCAM


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on September 28, 2017, 04:59:47 PM
Why's SCAM

insightful comment. read what I wrote.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: jnow on September 28, 2017, 05:09:20 PM


The ongoing pump will end bad for some. I wouldn't touch it now.



Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Whiplash Wally on September 28, 2017, 05:10:46 PM
Interesting. I've looked into it a bit and the Samsung VP bit seemed to be the only positive that stood out. Thanks for the info.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on September 28, 2017, 05:49:35 PM
No problem.

I tried to constructively put these question to the team on slack but no one owned up to being part of the team and then I was banned. Presume someone from the team was there since they had the power to ban me. My comments were dismissed as "don't listen to him he wants to price to drop so he can buy cheap".

The coin was being pumped pretty hard, it's being pumped even harder since I started asking questions.

Volume $34,000,000 in 24hrs up 86%, in my opinion, is a complete fabrication and manipulation of the market.

I doubt these cowboys will be able to keep the pretence up for much longer.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: jnow on September 28, 2017, 10:33:05 PM
Without any shadow of a doubt, WTC is a scam.
Get out while you can!
My only interest is for good people not to lose money.


INCORRECT.

You simply have not done your homework.

Everything you wrote, and I mean everything, is total BS.

No wonder you were banned from another site(s)

You simply have no idea what your talking about.

I hope you get banned from this site also.




And you have?

Proof?





Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: mari4nn3 on September 28, 2017, 10:35:14 PM
Wow this is some serious afirmations and I don't know the project to a point where I can say your right or wrong but now got to check it because this was one of the projects in my watch list.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: poodle63 on September 28, 2017, 10:53:35 PM
In some reasons there is no a reliable news to support the jinjiang rumour related to the walton project, And that the heck pboc as the higher institutional in the china. and that doesn't make sense to see the middle institutional are ignoring the command from the government.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Neo-- on September 28, 2017, 11:31:48 PM
Without any shadow of a doubt, WTC is a scam.

Get out while you can!

There is no reliable record of the team i.e. linking them and their experience to the project.
Try and find evidence linking the supposed former VP of Samsung to Samsung and the project.

This forum and Reddit is full of very blatant WTC shills. The comments on Reddit are beyond belief.

Listed on only one exchange, with a relatively small number of tokens (compared to similar projects) the price looks like it is being manipulated.

They are pretending to win a competition that does not exist. The "Jinjiang Competition" - there is no reliable source for this whatsoever. This is an unverified/fake news http://www.kinews.net/news/articleView.html?idxno=110897
Seriously, they have just won a major competition - logos stuck on t-shirts, with a dodgy banner outside a sports centre. I've been to plenty of award ceremonies and competition results, this is a joke.

The website is poorly developed. If these people are serious/investable why can't they design a website or t-shirts. And it's called Walton coin. Serious business people would be much, much slicker than this.

I suspect a lot of effort has gone into making this appear credible but it isn't. Some people have seen big returns this week and are talking about market cap increase to $1billion+ and are dismissing my point of view with comments like "ah, well, things are lost in translation. they all have similar names and everyone is VP at Samsung. Western news would not cover the competition" etc.

You have been warned!

My only interest is for good people not to lose money.

For the record, my investments are: Waves, Wagerr, Zcoin, District0X, ARK and Monero.

I have no conflicts of interest and nothing to gain from this post.

No need to make FUD dude I believe in Wtc like many others. there is many project with bad internet pages etc. you cant call a Project just because of internet page or some poor arguments.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: jono_t2000 on September 29, 2017, 12:45:39 AM
This is rediculous at the highest level!

Do you think Binance would allow any Chinese coins onto their exchange without doing the due diligence? OF COURSE NOT!

Do you think Waltonchain would hire a team of actors to do a tour of their office? OF COURSE NOT!

Do you think all the news articles in Korea and China about Waltonchain making partnerships have media collaberating in this so called scam?? OF COURSE NOT!


there are some sour people here who either did not do research or missed out on a god entry point and now trying to hurt those who did get in on time.

http://it.sohu.com/20170619/n497691996.shtml
https://www.lianguwang.com/article/1343
http://news.sohu.com/20170703/n499620493.shtml
http://www.kinews.net/news/articleView.html?idxno=108390

Above are some articles about this 'scam company'

NOW SHUT THE F UP AND STOCK FUDDING ON THIS COIN AND PUT SOME EFFORT INTO RESEARCHING YOU BRAINLESS MORON


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: dbt1033 on September 29, 2017, 01:47:49 AM
skkim@korea.ac.kr is the email address of KIM, Suk Ki if anyone wants to ask him if he's actually involved.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: audiTT on September 29, 2017, 02:31:11 AM
NB: Kim Suk-ki was not the vice president of the entire Samsung Corp as some have concluded.
But A former vice president of one its divisions. Samsung SDI I believe.
This guy is a valuable advisor for Walton to have on board, I have seen some of his patents and white papers, VERY impressive



Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Mpamaegbu on September 29, 2017, 04:54:00 AM
OP, instead of spreading crap why don't you chat then up on their official telegram group here: @waltonchain_en. Stop being another JP Morgan and act reasonably by doing a deep research into the project rather than this hate and FUD you spew.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on September 29, 2017, 08:39:16 AM
Happy for people to do their own research.

Just raising my concerns so people can hopefully make an informed choice.



Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on September 29, 2017, 08:47:22 AM
Without any shadow of a doubt, WTC is a scam.

Keihatsu where are you?
Are you going to elaborate and provide proof of your ridiculous claims?

Have you researched the so called 'Jinjiang competition' ?
BTW: There are MANY industrial design competitions hosted by the Fujian provincial economic commission and Jinjiang city itself.

There is NO one 'Jinjiang competition' Try googling the 'Straits plan' or 'Straits cup'

Or, if googling is too difficult for you, try here:

http://ehxb.jiid.cc/#


You're obviously linked to the project. Hence, setting up this account just to try and rebut what I say. Happy to debate with you.

The competition does not exist, Walton is a scam.

The project does not exist, Walton is a scam.

The website you linked to is a joke. You are a joke.

Some investors will make money in the short term. I suspect you will make a small fortune. At some point, everyone will realise that Walton chain is an elaborate scam. I just hope that no good people get caught holding the tokens when it all comes crashing down.



Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on September 29, 2017, 09:05:41 AM
skkim@korea.ac.kr is the email address of KIM, Suk Ki if anyone wants to ask him if he's actually involved.



Thats a bit over the top.
Lets not spam the guy with stupid questions.

He is def an advisor. Jin Xiji is his Chinese name.
There are plenty of pictures of him with the team and his professional bio/pic is available on the net outside of Waltonchain
He is NOT part of the permanent team though, just an advisor.

He may or may not advise too much though because for the Chinese (and I should know) having a 'famous' advisor onboard is often about prestige more than anything else.





Who is Kim?
http://www.waltonchain.org/team

Oh, I see, Jin Xiji is his Chinese name. Of course, he's known as Kim.

You / the project have widely promoted "Jin Xiji" as former Samsung VP.
Oh, I see, now it's a division of Samsung.

This man has not worked for Samsung as a senior manager.

You guys make me laugh.

You can't even design a decent website, so how can you deliver RFID on the blockchain.

5 minutes research = this is a joke.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on September 29, 2017, 09:09:10 AM
other sensible people are coming to the same conclusion:

https://www.articlezip.com/waltoncoin-shenanigans/



Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: kurkan88 on September 29, 2017, 01:13:53 PM
Why it's SCAM and the price is crossing $6 now?
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/walton/


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: DuaLipa on September 29, 2017, 01:15:15 PM
Why it's SCAM and the price is crossing $6 now?
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/walton/

I'm asking myself the same question. I sold my WTC tokens 2 days ago and I regret for this. I could have waited. Fudding is really dangerous guys, be careful for it.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: kurkan88 on September 29, 2017, 01:22:01 PM
Why it's SCAM and the price is crossing $6 now?
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/walton/

I'm asking myself the same question. I sold my WTC tokens 2 days ago and I regret for this. I could have waited. Fudding is really dangerous guys, be careful for it.

You know, guys here who tells you what to buy and and what not to buy are keeping you out of their winning so when things gets promising and the coins they say "don't buy it - it's a SCAM" they at the same time buy a few more then they sell when the price gets higher like WTC with you.

With me here in this forum ppl said that Monaco coin is a SCAM and some users didn't contribute to their ICO where the price was very low. it went public then the price goes up and up until it reached $25.

So - Do your god damn fu**n research wasn't a bad advice after all :)


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: CryptoToast on September 29, 2017, 02:13:13 PM
What about the token holders? Top three holders has 72% of WTC. Is it normal? The second one is Binance, but the first and third? Developers?
http://imgur.com/pkhKcQ9


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: ask on September 29, 2017, 02:17:25 PM
There are some red flags for me too. Big holders are only 3 wallet and this is really bad for every coin.
If only 3 holders for %70 then this coin is really going to trash.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: pzsnuffy on September 29, 2017, 03:02:45 PM
Thanks for this post. I've done the exact steps you have and basically came to the same conclusion over the last few days. The one part I can't figure out though is WHY it would be a scam.  The idea is incredible. I really wonder if there is just some kind of language barrier that makes it appear shaky from my side.  I can't even look at their site and figure out what the official english twitter, telegram, and slack channels are. It's so insane how people defend shit because they want it to be true.  If anyone here can point me to some sort of proof I'm missing I'll tip you.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: fuddispeller on September 29, 2017, 03:58:43 PM
Without any shadow of a doubt, WTC is a scam.

Get out while you can!

There is no reliable record of the team i.e. linking them and their experience to the project.
Try and find evidence linking the supposed former VP of Samsung to Samsung and the project.

This forum and Reddit is full of very blatant WTC shills. The comments on Reddit are beyond belief.

Listed on only one exchange, with a relatively small number of tokens (compared to similar projects) the price looks like it is being manipulated.

They are pretending to win a competition that does not exist. The "Jinjiang Competition" - there is no reliable source for this whatsoever. This is an unverified/fake news http://www.kinews.net/news/articleView.html?idxno=110897
Seriously, they have just won a major competition - logos stuck on t-shirts, with a dodgy banner outside a sports centre. I've been to plenty of award ceremonies and competition results, this is a joke.

The website is poorly developed. If these people are serious/investable why can't they design a website or t-shirts. And it's called Walton coin. Serious business people would be much, much slicker than this.

I suspect a lot of effort has gone into making this appear credible but it isn't. Some people have seen big returns this week and are talking about market cap increase to $1billion+ and are dismissing my point of view with comments like "ah, well, things are lost in translation. they all have similar names and everyone is VP at Samsung. Western news would not cover the competition" etc.

You have been warned!

My only interest is for good people not to lose money.

For the record, my investments are: Waves, Wagerr, Zcoin, District0X, ARK and Monero.

I have no conflicts of interest and nothing to gain from this post.
This post was posted in slack and I've signed up to talk about it.

I regret to inform you that you are in fact an idiot. First of all, if you're going to argue, please please please make better attempts to argue against yourself, it stops lies from spreading and stops me wasting time to do it for you. Critical thinking and good research isn't tricky. Now.. to the meat.

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There is no reliable record of the team i.e. linking them and their experience to the project. Try and find evidence linking the supposed former VP of Samsung to Samsung and the project.
False. Jin Xiji is Korean and his Korean Name is actually SuKi Kim. If you search for SuKi Kim it's pretty easy to confirm his Legitimacy, but let's focus on the Name first. Since I'm German I don't know how those Name Translations work, but Just look at a Google translation of his name from Korean to Chinese and compare the signs. If you search for his Korean name you can also find the list of papers he published. (http://www.dbpia.co.kr/Author/AuthorInfo?arcId=&ancId=1035431)
But the best proof is just to look him in the eyes in a Paper that was published on the 2nd of April 2011 in ETRI Journal Volume 33.
But just take a look for yourself. (http://ocean.kisti.re.kr/downfile/volume/etri/HJTODO/2011/v33n2/HJTODO_2011_v33n2_201.pdf). He's literally wearing the same glasses. (https://i.imgur.com/Uq2kvIR.png) So, are you going to tell me this elaborate walton scam goes back to 2011? They planted his photograph into this ETRI journal for their blockchain exit scam 5 years later? Really playing the long game huh... Lastly, here's a link to a photo of someone who actually took time to do research sending an email to suki at his university address https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T6WAP6MRR-F70BXKN2D/email.png. Translate it, I won't do it for you, but it confirms his involvement in the project and thanks the sender for their interest.

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This forum and Reddit is full of very blatant WTC shills. The comments on Reddit are beyond belief.
Compelling argument. People like the coin? Must be a scam.


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Listed on only one exchange, with a relatively small number of tokens (compared to similar projects) the price looks like it is being manipulated.
"The price looks like it's being manipulated". Are you memeing? How is this an argument? Please explain how it looks like it's being manipulated, otherwise, this sentence was literally a useless addition. Price is rising above ICO price? Oh, must be manipulation /s

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They are pretending to win a competition that does not exist. The "Jinjiang Competition" - there is no reliable source for this whatsoever. This is an unverified/fake news http://www.kinews.net/news/articleView.html?idxno=110897
Seriously, they have just won a major competition - logos stuck on t-shirts, with a dodgy banner outside a sports centre. I've been to plenty of award ceremonies and competition results, this is a joke.
Can you explain why it's fake news other than you want it to be fake news? I'm asking you to explain a lot here... As you can see you're just making claims without any back ups. The competition is ran by a local government in China. Have you worked in China? Have you been to China? I'd wager you don't own a passport. The fact is culture is very different - the Chinese don't even use emails that much let alone building an entire website for a local government competition with multiple awards. These things are based on relationships.

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The website is poorly developed. If these people are serious/investable why can't they design a website or t-shirts. And it's called Walton coin. Serious business people would be much, much slicker than this.
You are calling a company a scam because you don't like their screenprinted t-shirts? Are you serious? Lol... And God forbid they don't just rehash the same wordpress template as every other blockchain venture in the west right.. tragic. "They would be slicker" - seriously? What does that even mean?

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I suspect a lot of effort has gone into making this appear credible but it isn't. Some people have seen big returns this week and are talking about market cap increase to $1billion+ and are dismissing my point of view with comments like "ah, well, things are lost in translation. they all have similar names and everyone is VP at Samsung. Western news would not cover the competition" etc.

In the end you've simply resorted to making things up. Unsurprising really... There's only one former samsung VP. It seems to be the only gripe that is tangible for me to refute, everything else is mindless drivel like "they would be more slick if they were serious". Come on... I've given you irrefutable evidence about the VP, and you have no doubt seen him in the photos and videos around Walton, so, what now?

Are you upset you missed out? See you at 500m, and au revoir.





Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: fuddispeller on September 29, 2017, 04:09:17 PM
Oh and you know the best thing about it? China just regulated and investigated ICOs. Walton came out on the other side ok. Do you know something the Chinese government doesn't?


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on September 29, 2017, 04:36:10 PM
Yes, it's remarkable really.

Well done to anyone that managed to make a quick buck (other than the scammers).

You know things are pretty desperate when the strongest pushback I've had from the team/scammers is "you're jealous / want to buy at a lower price" and "it must be real because there's a video of the team at their office".

To be fair, they have gone to a lot of effort to deceive. Most of the team photos appear to have been taken on the same day, but it looks like they asked the actors to bring a change of clothes (well, trousers, as the dodgy t-shirts prevail). I like the video of the "investors meeting" - basically taken on an dodgy phone by someone at the back of a room. All the "delegates" are completely disinterested, it looks like it's lunch at a proper conference and they've just rolled out one of the actors.  You can just about make our someone wearing a Walton t-shirt at the front, but can't hear or see the presentation. Lol.

Every night they must be laughing their arses off that people are buying the token.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on September 29, 2017, 04:39:49 PM
Oh and you know the best thing about it? China just regulated and investigated ICOs. Walton came out on the other side ok. Do you know something the Chinese government doesn't?

yes, I doubt breaking the rules is tolerated by the Chinese Government.



Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: fuddispeller on September 29, 2017, 04:42:22 PM
Yes, it's remarkable really.

Well done to anyone that managed to make a quick buck (other than the scammers).

You know things are pretty desperate when the strongest pushback I've had from the team/scammers is "you're jealous / want to buy at a lower price" and "it must be real because there's a video of the team at their office".

To be fair, they have gone to a lot of effort to deceive. Most of the team photos appear to have been taken on the same day, but it looks like they asked the actors to bring a change of clothes (well, trousers, as the dodgy t-shirts prevail). I like the video of the "investors meeting" - basically taken on an dodgy phone by someone at the back of a room. All the "delegates" are completely disinterested, it looks like it's lunch at a proper conference and they've just rolled out one of the actors.  You can just about make our someone wearing a Walton t-shirt at the front, but can't hear or see the presentation. Lol.

Every night they must be laughing their arses off that people are buying the token.
Link to this investors meeting video you're talking about? No, you can't

Now you're simply making things up - I guess my work is done lol


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on September 29, 2017, 04:50:46 PM
Yes, it's remarkable really.

Well done to anyone that managed to make a quick buck (other than the scammers).

You know things are pretty desperate when the strongest pushback I've had from the team/scammers is "you're jealous / want to buy at a lower price" and "it must be real because there's a video of the team at their office".

To be fair, they have gone to a lot of effort to deceive. Most of the team photos appear to have been taken on the same day, but it looks like they asked the actors to bring a change of clothes (well, trousers, as the dodgy t-shirts prevail). I like the video of the "investors meeting" - basically taken on an dodgy phone by someone at the back of a room. All the "delegates" are completely disinterested, it looks like it's lunch at a proper conference and they've just rolled out one of the actors.  You can just about make our someone wearing a Walton t-shirt at the front, but can't hear or see the presentation. Lol.

Every night they must be laughing their arses off that people are buying the token.
Link to this investors meeting video you're talking about? No, you can't

Now you're simply making things up - I guess my work is done lol

Here you go pal:

http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_1762e50170102x9s6.html (http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_1762e50170102x9s6.html)


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: fuddispeller on September 29, 2017, 04:57:35 PM
Yes, it's remarkable really.

Well done to anyone that managed to make a quick buck (other than the scammers).

You know things are pretty desperate when the strongest pushback I've had from the team/scammers is "you're jealous / want to buy at a lower price" and "it must be real because there's a video of the team at their office".

To be fair, they have gone to a lot of effort to deceive. Most of the team photos appear to have been taken on the same day, but it looks like they asked the actors to bring a change of clothes (well, trousers, as the dodgy t-shirts prevail). I like the video of the "investors meeting" - basically taken on an dodgy phone by someone at the back of a room. All the "delegates" are completely disinterested, it looks like it's lunch at a proper conference and they've just rolled out one of the actors.  You can just about make our someone wearing a Walton t-shirt at the front, but can't hear or see the presentation. Lol.

Every night they must be laughing their arses off that people are buying the token.
Link to this investors meeting video you're talking about? No, you can't

Now you're simply making things up - I guess my work is done lol

Here you go pal:

http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_1762e50170102x9s6.html (http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_1762e50170102x9s6.html)
Wow I've never seen these

Even more proof of their activity, thanks

Care to refute the post above? I notice you ignored the suki proof


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on September 29, 2017, 05:10:36 PM
Yes, great to see your dynamic angel investors. LMAO.

SuKi Kim does not exist.

Why isn't anyone from the team on here defending?

Happy to speak to any of them on Skype about the project. Let me guess, none of them speaks English!

Good job I know a good translator.

Well done for progressing from email phishing scams.







Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on September 29, 2017, 05:21:50 PM
There are some red flags for me too. Big holders are only 3 wallet and this is really bad for every coin.
If only 3 holders for %70 then this coin is really going to trash.

means a lot of people are about to get shafted and the market is being manipulated.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: j0z0r on September 29, 2017, 05:41:49 PM
There are some red flags for me too. Big holders are only 3 wallet and this is really bad for every coin.
If only 3 holders for %70 then this coin is really going to trash.

means a lot people are about to get shafted and the market is being manipulated.
Stay salty noWalty


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: rauls on September 29, 2017, 05:44:58 PM
Further update:

Here is the whois information:

https://www.whois.com/whois/waltonchain.org

These registration details have been used in several scams e.g. hookwhois.org

A fake "your who is details have expired, click here to renew".

https://myonlinesecurity.co.uk/yet-another-whois-registration-scam/

Scroll down to the bottom of the page. Same details including the wonderful "No.999 Liang Mu Road Yuhang District" address.

And.... TankIn.net / sliver.me / jpsheath.org / .... all linked to scams.
thank for share your research. nice work bro. :D I dont have many time to check all this things so it's very good :D


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: j0z0r on September 29, 2017, 05:48:50 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/waltonchain/comments/738naz/are_you_able_to_debunk_the_following_claims/

Also here's a post with links refuting just about everything OP is FUDing about.

Why is this user so invested in something he allegedly cares nothing about? Why is no one from the team on here defending themselves? Lol, why would they be? It's the middle of the night in China, plus they have important work to do, not argue with children that aren't even acting in good faith to start with.

He's trying to get the price down so he can get in cheaper. Full disclosure means nothing without proof, and this clown has lost all credibility. 70% of the tokens are locked for a year, a single look at coinmarketcap would tell you that. But don't believe me, just sell everything you have, the cheaper it gets, the more I get at a discount!


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Xenon91 on September 29, 2017, 05:55:42 PM
a scam with real business partnerships?

LOL   :D

Walton chain is not a scam it is a company that signs contracts

http://tech.china.com/article/20170823/2017082352011.html

http://www.ok56.com.cn/product.php


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on September 29, 2017, 06:01:37 PM
a scam with real business partnerships?

LOL   :D

http://tech.china.com/article/20170823/2017082352011.html

http://www.ok56.com.cn/product.php

Those are not genuine, reliable sources.

Some sites will publish anything. And there is such a thing as fake news.

I've just checked, and it is fake news.

Absolutely nothing to do with "china.com" < look at the format of china.com vs. the tech.china.com link.

I wasn't born yesterday.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: j0z0r on September 29, 2017, 06:02:40 PM
a scam with real business partnerships?

LOL   :D

http://tech.china.com/article/20170823/2017082352011.html

http://www.ok56.com.cn/product.php

Those are not genuine, reliable sources.

Some sites will publish anything. And there is such a thing as fake news.
You mean like everything you say?


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on September 29, 2017, 06:04:48 PM
a scam with real business partnerships?

LOL   :D

http://tech.china.com/article/20170823/2017082352011.html

http://www.ok56.com.cn/product.php

Those are not genuine, reliable sources.

Some sites will publish anything. And there is such a thing as fake news.
You mean like everything you say?

look at http://tech.china.com/article/20170823/2017082352011.html
vs. www.china.com

fake news my friend.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Xenon91 on September 29, 2017, 06:10:00 PM
It's a different heading. You are dumb ?   :-X

http://edu.china.com/

http://culture.china.com/

and more... It is the same website  ;D

Do not be disgusted because you did not take the WTC train   ;D


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: btcdee on September 29, 2017, 06:15:30 PM
Thank you for your post. I feel terribly sorry for the investors if your claims prove to be correct.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on September 29, 2017, 06:35:18 PM
Thank you for your post. I feel terribly sorry for the investors if your claims prove to be correct.

Thanks.

To give them some credit, they have created a market for something that doesn't exist and will not exist.

If they are smart, they will keep up the facade as long as possible and gradually sell their tokens to maintain the market and confidence.

Given they control at least 70% of the tokens and the 24hr volume is circa $27million (which could include manipulation, such as buying their own tokens) they can probably skim a significant amount of money without much notice. Trying to sell to many tokens will collapse the market. I have seen this before with other scams like Unity Ingot. As long as people continue to believe in the project and buy the tokens, even if the market is stagnant or in slow decline, they'll keep skimming. I suspect it will continue for a while and eventually come to a slow and painful end with no product. And, like Unity Ignot, slowly disappear.

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/unity-ingot/
https://unityingot.com/ < relaunch is meant to be happening tomorrow, lol.



Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: fuddispeller on September 29, 2017, 07:05:13 PM
http://tech.china.com/article/20170713/2017071340273.html

Look at the scam guys
So elaborate wow who are these masters of trickery

http://tech.china.com/article/20170703/2017070337823.html

wow such scam

http://tech.china.com/article/20170712/2017071239958.html

wow fake news

http://tech.china.com/article/20170629/2017062936839.html

wow i bet they took this on the same day as all the other ones op you're right they just took a bus trip to all the locations and then used an insider to fool china.com into thinking they're legit holy fk wow you might be onto something wow


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on September 29, 2017, 07:22:37 PM
http://tech.china.com/article/20170713/2017071340273.html

Look at the scam guys
So elaborate wow who are these masters of trickery

http://tech.china.com/article/20170703/2017070337823.html

wow such scam

http://tech.china.com/article/20170712/2017071239958.html

wow fake news

http://tech.china.com/article/20170629/2017062936839.html

wow i bet they took this on the same day as all the other ones op you're right they just took a bus trip to all the locations and then used an insider to fool china.com into thinking they're legit holy fk wow you might be onto something wow

These stories are not on www.china.com
I understand how fake news works. You are making it look like china.com but it isn't.



Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Zoltes on September 29, 2017, 07:27:22 PM
I think it's good that people are questioning some uncertain facts (though probably the title should be "COULD be a scam") and it's not good that the team is deleting reddits like this (https://www.reddit.com/r/waltonchain/comments/738naz/are_you_able_to_debunk_the_following_claims/) and this (https://www.reddit.com/r/waltonchain/comments/738xpy/can_someone_post_some_credible_sources_here_other/). However, the concerns about the fake team and registrant dns don't seem to be valid.

The most valid concern is that the owners control 70% of the tokens. In fact there are 3 addresses with a huge stake (https://etherscan.io/token/0xb7cb1c96db6b22b0d3d9536e0108d062bd488f74#balances). First is indeed theirs with 42.8571%, the second is Binance's address, and the third, according to them, is a big presale investor (https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/6xhggw/dont_fall_for_walton_coin_ignore_the_shills_they/). If that's a lie, they have 56%. It's certainly something to worry about, though we've seen that in most of other projects even for Ethereum (and that invoked lots of posts like this one) and Bitcoin (4.11% of addresses own 96.53% of BTC (http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2017/09/18/20170919_btc.jpg)).


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Zoltes on September 29, 2017, 07:44:00 PM
http://tech.china.com/article/20170713/2017071340273.html

Look at the scam guys
So elaborate wow who are these masters of trickery

http://tech.china.com/article/20170703/2017070337823.html

wow such scam

http://tech.china.com/article/20170712/2017071239958.html

wow fake news

http://tech.china.com/article/20170629/2017062936839.html

wow i bet they took this on the same day as all the other ones op you're right they just took a bus trip to all the locations and then used an insider to fool china.com into thinking they're legit holy fk wow you might be onto something wow

These stories are not on www.china.com
I understand how fake news works. You are making it look like china.com but it isn't.



I'm not trying to defend anyone and it's weird that fuddispeller registered a new account just to write in this thread, but when you open http://www.china.com/index.html, you'll see that every article from there goes into it's subdomain. Only the English version has everything on english.china.com subdomain. So news on tech.china.com seems to be legit.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: weav on September 29, 2017, 07:49:49 PM
The way this was hyped up out of no where looks fishy to me , after seeing this i'll stay far away.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: VeeTeaSee on September 29, 2017, 08:04:31 PM
The thing i did not like about this coin is the circulating supply vs totalk supply...
thats why  i did not invest in this coin.
but when it jumped by x5 i started to believe thats its ok :/


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on September 29, 2017, 09:23:57 PM
Further update:

Here is the whois information:

https://www.whois.com/whois/waltonchain.org

These registration details have been used in several scams e.g. hookwhois.org

A fake "your who is details have expired, click here to renew".

https://myonlinesecurity.co.uk/yet-another-whois-registration-scam/

Scroll down to the bottom of the page. Same details including the wonderful "No.999 Liang Mu Road Yuhang District" address.

And.... TankIn.net / sliver.me / jpsheath.org / .... all linked to scams.


Yet another example of crappy/biased so-called research by the infamous Mr Keihatsu!

Here are the facts:

Waltons domain name info

1. Registrar: HiChina Web solutions (Hichina Zhicheng Technology Ltd) - which just happens to be owned by Alibaba Cloud services.
2. Admin: Nexperian Holding Limited, Le Jia International No.999 Liang Mu Road Yuhang District. - Same generic address detail for many thousands of websites, including some scam websites, but that has NOTHING to do with Walton chain.

And your point is?

Sorry.. you do not have a point, just baseless FUD



For the record, Nexperian Holding Limited is a privacy service that hides the identities of domain owners, which is why it is associated with so many scams. Why would a genuine project take such steps?


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: crazylikeafox on September 29, 2017, 09:42:43 PM
Im pretty concerned on how they are going to deal with the regulatory bodies especially since China and S.Korea banned raising money thru ICO's. Don trust them with much money


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: audiTT on September 30, 2017, 10:46:30 AM
Statement

Banning ICOs is to prohibit future ICOs to be carried out in South Korea, the currently existing and completed ICO projects in South Korea will not be affected. The meaning of the news articles is to punish or convict individuals and groups using the tool of initial offering of crypt to currencies to be used in unlawful activities. On the other hand, this regulation on banning ICOs is good news to WTC, to rid of the fake and leaving the strong and the good, to refine high quality and even global block chain projects. The block chain industry / communities require such self-discipline and supervision, for the promotion of a healthier development of the block chain industry.
As for WTC, we are clearly done with our ICO process and already being traded on an exchange right now. This regulation would not impact us, and from another angle, the industry will certainly benefit from this regulation. WTC Korea will continue to accelerate our pace and efforts here and also the global market.
(Walton chain Technology Co.,Ltd)

2017/9/29



Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: audiTT on September 30, 2017, 10:53:32 AM
Umm who was it that said Walton was a scam?
I hope your ready to eat hubble pie and apologise for your BS and FUDDING Keihatsu

Recently, the "Fortune Marine Monitoring Laboratory of Fujian Province" (hereinafter referred to as "Wisdom Ocean"), which is a member of the Walton Chain project team, is approved by the Fujian Provincial Development and Reform Commission and will receive 5 million project subsidy for the experiment Room construction.

The construction of the "marine power" by the 18th National Congress of the Communist Party of China (CPC) is a major leap in the history of China since its founding. Wisdom and ocean engineering was born, it is "industrialization + information" in the field of deep integration of the ocean, but also the depth of integration of military and civilian, and comprehensively enhance the overall capacity of the overall solution. Based on the perfect marine information collection and transmission system, to build an autonomous safe and controllable marine cloud environment as the support, the marine rights and interests, control, development of three areas of equipment and activities of the system integration, the use of industrial data and the Internet Large data technology, to achieve the sharing of marine resources, marine activities, coordination, mining new needs, to create new value, to achieve the purpose of wisdom by the sea. Fujian Province based on the previous good foundation, the construction of Fujian Province, the wisdom of marine testing laboratories, will enable our province in the wisdom of the sea as the first to enhance the province's ability to slightly oceans and promote the development of marine economy is of great significance.
Ai Aote Technology Co., Ltd. is a professional commitment to radio frequency identification (RFID) reader R & D, production and sales as one of the high-tech enterprises. IOT-RFID series of products has been widely covered in mainland China provinces and cities and Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan, Southeast Asia, North America, Europe and other countries and regions. Its product stability, sensitivity and consistency, and so has become an industry model.

Ai Teote members in the "wisdom of the ocean" testing laboratory research and development and technology integration, to help the laboratory use of video awareness, identification perception, attribute perception, location perception and other Internet of things, wireless transmission network technology to establish a comprehensive information perception Platform to promote Fujian "wisdom of the ocean" project construction. And through the effective management of business platform, business platform and data center, establish a scientific operational evaluation system so that the government can analyze the business environment and economic development trend, analyze the market demand, guide the development of industrial agglomeration, guide the development and utilization of resources and production The rational allocation of resources, the construction of Fujian has the wisdom of the ocean, enhance the development of marine control in Fujian Province, Fujian Province, the development of intelligent marine industry has a catalytic role.
Ai Teote technology has always been shoulder the "development of marine economy, the construction of marine strong province" service concept, wholeheartedly into the "wisdom of the ocean" monitoring work, effectively improve the all-round disaster early warning service system to improve the marine disaster and other emergencies, Enhance the social, public production operations at sea, the safety of human and property security capabilities. In the future, the wisdom of marine testing laboratories will be burdened with a more difficult but glorious mission to continue before the behavior of Fujian Province, "wisdom of the ocean" project landing breakthrough innovation, open the wisdom of the ocean, intelligent city of good information age!

LINK: http://tech.china.com/article/20170827/2017082753050.html


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on September 30, 2017, 10:58:37 AM
Fake news, utter nonsense.

You guys make me laugh. Trying really hard.

 ;D


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Swami_rama on September 30, 2017, 12:58:23 PM
I feel bad for the competition committee that got scammed out of 5 million.  The 5x was sweet for me though


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: ZaoXhou on September 30, 2017, 01:13:05 PM
I feel bad for the competition committee that got scammed out of 5 million.  The 5x was sweet for me though

Where someone profits on the market, there is likely someone losing on the market. It's sad but that's trading.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on September 30, 2017, 01:31:21 PM
I feel bad for the competition committee that got scammed out of 5 million.  The 5x was sweet for me though

Hi (another) newbie,

Are you referring to the "competition" the project oppositely won?
And you're saying the team won 5 million?
If so, LMAO.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: ZilchTheNada on September 30, 2017, 10:11:55 PM
a scam with real business partnerships?

LOL   :D

http://tech.china.com/article/20170823/2017082352011.html

http://www.ok56.com.cn/product.php

Those are not genuine, reliable sources.

Some sites will publish anything. And there is such a thing as fake news.
You mean like everything you say?

look at http://tech.china.com/article/20170823/2017082352011.html
vs. www.china.com






fake news my friend.


A subdomain is a part of the main website, tech.china.com is part of the main website china.com. You lousy fuck.

If you have a large and confusing site that’s hard to navigate, like china.com, then guess what you lousy fuck? You'll have to go with subdomains or subdirectories in order to improve user experience.

Google uses subdomains for distinct products such as news.google.com or maps.google.com, for example. Does that means news.google.com or maps.google.com are fake websites? No, you lousy fuck.
 



Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on September 30, 2017, 10:18:05 PM
Hello (another newbie),

It's a poor attempt at fake news you dim wits.



Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on September 30, 2017, 10:20:24 PM
Walton chain (WTC):

https://bobsummerwill.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/evidence-emperors-new-clothes.png


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: ZilchTheNada on September 30, 2017, 10:44:32 PM
Hello (another newbie),

It's a poor attempt at fake news you dim wits.



I understand your frustration, being buttfucked after this 300% rally is not something you can shrug off so easily.

But guess what, while we made money during this rally you're here whining like a bitch.


You've been buttfucked on this one and you'll be buttfucked again and again as WTC's market cap grows and expands.

Sooner or later, you'll be left alone like a whiny and petulant child you are. You'll be forgotten, erased, obliterated.

See you when WTC reaches top 20.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on September 30, 2017, 11:05:40 PM
That's not very nice.

Am I ruining your scam?

It's a complete sham and I'm surprised that anyone has fallen for it!

You want to ramp the price, slowly skim and then disappear.

There is no evidence of work on this project whatsoever.

The website and promotional material are embarrassingly bad.

The team does not check out.

And there is not verified, tangible evidence that the "project" is supported by the Chinese Government or has any contracts with major businesses. Fake news does not count.

Easy to create a 300% rally when you control 70% of the tokens.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: crazydeadmoth on September 30, 2017, 11:09:49 PM
WTC is not a scam, don't bullshit here, it is a IOT project, can be a competitor of IOTA.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on September 30, 2017, 11:11:40 PM
FUD this:

Dear members of WTC community,

Good news! The project initiated by Quanzhou Silicon, the technology backup of WTC in China and a subsidiary of Silicon Group, and led by Professor Kim suk ki (Jin xiji) ,former vice president of Samsung Electronics in charge of technology development , has been awarded the " second-class international qualification "(the highest of this year) by the "Strait Prgram" of Jinjiang City , Fujian Province. As a result of this award, government subsidies will be granted to promote the R&D of RFID chips, which is the underlying IoT(Internet of Things) technology, and also to support the establishment of the IoT system.

The competition during the final assessment of the "Strait Prgram" was indeed fierce. Out of the 37 projects which entered the final round, 13 projects won the second-class qualification , 14 were awarded the third-class qualification , and the rest gained fourth-class and fifth-class qualification . As one of the 13 teams winning the second-class qualification, the project led by Professor Kim suk ki of Quanzhou Silicon has proven the solid technological capability of Silicon. This award is one of the highest honors Silicon Group has won in the past 10 months of this year.

WTC foundation sincerely congratulates Silicon Group on this glorious achievement, and believes in a promising prospect of Silicon. In the future, WTC foundation will remain the strategic cooperation with Silicon Group. WTC foundation and Silicon Group have signed further cooperative agreement regarding blockchain, RFID and IoT technology. We hope Silicon Group will speed up the R&D of WTC and its business application , so as to ensure a healthy and steady development of the business ecosystem of WTC , and to contribute to the world's blockchain industry.

Walton Chain Foundation. Sep.28 2017

This competition doesn't even exist, it's a complete figment of your imagination and comically bad.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on September 30, 2017, 11:17:42 PM
WTC is not a scam, don't bullshit here, it is a IOT project, can be a competitor of IOTA.

Okay. Show me proof that it has support from the Chinese Government and a contract with $billion clothing company? Show me any evidence of work on this project, coding, tangible development?

Why has the project chosen to use a privacy service when registering the domain?

Has anyone actually spoken to a member of the team?

The fake news stories, photos and videos are not convincing in any way.

There is more chance of my seeing a unicorn, becoming president of the United States or scoring in a World Cup final than there is of this project being genuine.



Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: onesalt on September 30, 2017, 11:19:24 PM
What's going on, I got confused when I read the messages.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: ZilchTheNada on October 01, 2017, 12:04:25 AM
That's not very nice.

Am I ruining your scam?

It's a complete sham and I'm surprised that anyone has fallen for it!

You want to ramp the price, slowly skim and then disappear.

There is no evidence of work on this project whatsoever.

The website and promotional material are embarrassingly bad.

The team does not check out.

And there is not verified, tangible evidence that the "project" is supported by the Chinese Government or has any contracts with major businesses. Fake news does not count.

Easy to create a 300% rally when you control 70% of the tokens.


Firstly, if you just spend few minutes looking at any Chinese websites, you will know just how cluttered and badly designed most of them appear. What might strike a Westerner as an overload of information scattered all over the place is likely to be perceived as a content rich and intuitive site by the Chinese.

They do not care about us, nor do they care about some pompous westerner like you bitching and whining.

The fact is when Chinese are accessing a website, they are in data acquisition mode. It’s all about input from the site to the brain, and not nearly as much about design, layout and user experience.

Secondly, there is plenty of evidence that this project is being worked on. For one a website like china.com would never compromise its reputation by publicizing a scam, the website is being visited by the millions every month. You'd have to be insanely retarded to actually believe that china.com and 163.com would fuck up their user base by promoting an illegitimate company.


Walton has established multiple partnerships and here's the evidence:
http://tech.china.com/article/20170823/2017082352011.html

and here's one from 163.com (A website with a monthly traffic of over 550M...)

http://news.163.com/17/0626/18/CNSJK6GH00014AEE.html

So far you've only be able to provide piss poor arguments without any evidence. You're mad and angry because you've missed the rally. You fell on your butt mate, and now you just want to spread FUD in hopes of entering the market at a decent price.

You won't get it. But here's a friends tip:

Go out, grab a beer and masturbate to lesbian porn so you can blow off some steam. You're frustrated and now everyone can see it.


 


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: carrie_white on October 01, 2017, 02:59:03 AM
to be honest I'm very confused and dizzy, very much the topic of thread talking about walton coin (WTC) is a scam, but many are defending the project, we should be patient just waiting


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Olatunjex on October 01, 2017, 06:27:28 AM
Istn the same Walton that is already being traded,  tume will tell if they are one


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: hua_hui on October 01, 2017, 06:56:40 AM
To me, Walton Chain has been quite a reputatable coins. I have got into WTC during the china fud and i never regret it. First is the strong dev team with ex leaders in samsung in the team. On the other hand, it is fighting in a highly profitable and intensive fields with alibaba and amazon. The RFID is not a new technology and it has been around for a long time, just that no one uses it effectively. Given the strong dev team and already quite the possible huge potential in the RFID usages, i believe this team is possible to marry the 2 factors together nicely.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: davrog on October 01, 2017, 08:21:53 AM
The AMA looks promising though https://www.reddit.com/r/waltonchain/comments/73j7z4/waltonchain_first_ama_questions_answers/ Not all in, but one months paycheck going in.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on October 01, 2017, 10:58:04 AM
The AMA looks promising though https://www.reddit.com/r/waltonchain/comments/73j7z4/waltonchain_first_ama_questions_answers/ Not all in, but one months paycheck going in.

Hello (another newbie trying to defend this nonsense),

The AMA does not look promising.

Those companies listed do not stack up. There are no major companies on board.

Quote
Up to now, many companies such as Tries, Joeone, SMEN in the apparel industry, Kehua, Lipson plastic in the manufacturing industry and Xiangyu group in the warehouse industry have applied for our WTC & RFID integration system. What is impressive is that all of them have benefited a lot by integrating our system! Compared to before integration, their yield rate has increased by 1.2%, the stock turnover increased by 5.8%, the distribution efficiency has improved by almost 100%, and the inventory efficiency almost tripled in their stores.
For customer information please refer to list below:
Septwolves: http://www.septwolves.com
JOEONE: http://www.jiumuwang.com or http://www.joeone.cn
Tries: http://www.cntries.com
SMEN: http://www.smenxm.com
Kehua: http://www.kehua.com.cn
Xiangyu group: http://www.xiangyu-group.com
Lipson plastic: www.lipsoncorp.com

What is impressive is that all of them have benefited a lot by integrating our system! Compared to before integration, their yield rate has increased by 1.2%, the stock turnover increased by 5.8%, the distribution efficiency has improved by almost 100%, and the inventory efficiency almost tripled in their stores.

LMAO!  ;D

You've had that impact on "$billion" companies already. Lol. Yet no sign of a product and no pickup in the Western media.




Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Dolarin on October 01, 2017, 11:48:25 AM
I think your arguments are not sufficient that they can be considered scams, but I will listen to you and be a little more alert to them.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: coingrow on October 01, 2017, 11:52:38 AM
I was pretty optimist about Walton and bough tons of it before the recent pump. Not sure if its correct to call it a scam as I think more through search is required to dig into the truth. But Yes, I do agree that it will pump crazy and then drop like a dead cat. I would be out before that.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: slovakia on October 01, 2017, 12:34:19 PM
very weird pages= looks like when it coded any 10 old years child

true=www.china.com and www.tech.china.com is same registrator= tech is subdomain ....


BUT

doesnt exists news that firms/companies using waltonchain........
isnt BAN ICO on this shits like walton?  where is situated walton?  ...  
any emails/news from that companies that they are using this shitcoin?

99.99% ICO is scams

70% coins is freezed= rofl= ppl check it in explorerchain and you will see that is scam

howgh


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Swami_rama on October 01, 2017, 01:06:48 PM
no pickup in the Western media.

Western media is terrible, i would never trust again.

Walton pumped again last night and thank G-D I have enough to make a $masternode$


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on October 01, 2017, 01:12:55 PM
no pickup in the Western media.

Western media is terrible, i would never trust again.

Walton pumped again last night and thank G-D I have enough to make a $masternode$

Hello (another newbie),

There will not be any master nodes.

I suspect the pump is market manipulate by the scammers.

Yeah, I'd only trust the media in totalitarian states.



Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: szesch on October 01, 2017, 03:03:59 PM
Can't believe you spend so much time to argue with a troll.
Anyway, thank you all. My stomach hurts of laughing...


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: bamoqi on October 01, 2017, 03:57:28 PM
I can read chinese and has connections in JinJiang. Here is what I've found:

The JinJiang competition is real. Jin Xiji is a real person and his project "JinJiang Silicon" did get selected in the second class (I don't know what it means). Source here: http://www.sohu.com/a/192263128_740675 . It is in row number 6.

However, the JinJiang competition is just a competition funded by a local city, and there are many projects get selected. It is not a very big deal.

My opinion: WaltonChain seems overhyped, and there are a lot of shills around. They have some tech, and they have some local business partners (which may or may not be a real deal), and they got some honour in some local competition. But they are really just a local business adventure that tries to attach blockchain to their RFID technology in order to ride the ICO hype, just like most chinese ICOs are. I still don't understand why we need to use blockchain for RFID in the majority of the use cases, but it could just be my own limitation of understanding.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: phanhongphuctg on October 01, 2017, 04:07:54 PM
Why walton is SCAM and the price is 0.00147089 BTC now?
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/walton/


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: PPleaseman on October 01, 2017, 04:30:03 PM
its a bit strange that a lot of newbies are shilling this coin. I dont find a lot about waltonchain besides on reddit or their website. Could be because of china, could have different reasons.
anyway I  stay alert, its rather suspicious (my best prince oberyn impression)

cheers


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: szesch on October 01, 2017, 05:28:34 PM
No matter what you say, there will be a kid saying that you shill this coin.
I never bought WTC and I probably won't in the near future, because I never do risky investments. If this coin is still there in 2 years, we can talk about this again.
I only said that the author is a troll, which should be obvious to everybody.
I lived in China for many years and I'm still quite fluent in Chinese. I have many Chinese friends and I still follow media. WTC gets a lot of attention there.
When I see ignorant people who say there is no information about a certain topic, only because they live in their small little world, always reading the same media, it makes me angry and amused at the same time.
Also it's just poor to judge an account only by its number of comments.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on October 01, 2017, 09:22:05 PM
Here's a theory:

https://thebitcoinpub-91d3.kxcdn.com/uploads/default/original/2X/2/2a46561500525bd399a366040a12a1303b843063.png


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: blokHed on October 01, 2017, 09:36:19 PM
I'll give you my quick take on it re. tying in RFID and BlockChain... IMO... RFID has fastested transaction of simple data set for given product attached to, BlockChain, the most efficient monetary system within, the process for businesses, instantanious. Eliminating couterfeits. From Manufacturer, through to courier, to store, to audit etc..., a most efficient model that can be scaled and most profitable, eficient throuput for businesses. Full stop. IMO...
EDIT.. From here, about getting the blockchain to the masses, and seems future true products are being given leighway (sp) from Govs currently.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Ging on October 01, 2017, 09:46:48 PM
really thanks man


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Anayo on October 01, 2017, 09:51:14 PM
Whether it is shitcoin or not, it has given me over 500%


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: invest2lose on October 02, 2017, 12:34:42 AM
i rode the pumps, but now i'm out. not sure if this one legit or not, but rather take my chances elsewhere. oh well, if i lose out on more pumps, made enough so i'm happy.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Peter1984 on October 02, 2017, 01:45:01 AM
LOL, OP is obviously a comedian troll who is clearly aware that all of his comments are nonsense. He doesn't even make an effort to form good arguments.

In fact, carefully reading this thread clears all doubts that WTC is a serious project. Lots of great references that I hadn't seen before. So, OP in fact has done WTC a great service by creating this very informative thread.

Notice how OP has completely ignored this comment: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2214505.msg22365584#msg22365584 which eliminates all doubts 100%.

Again, here is the link to a scientific paper which SuKi Kim has co-authored (with a photo of him at the end), it's clearly the same guy.

See all of his scientific papers here: http://www.dbpia.co.kr/Author/AuthorInfo?arcId=&ancId=1035431

Fake News!  :D :D :D


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: jono_t2000 on October 02, 2017, 01:56:19 AM
LOL, OP is obviously a comedian troll who is clearly aware that all of his comments are nonsense. He doesn't even make an effort to form good arguments.

In fact, carefully reading this thread clears all doubts that WTC is a serious project. Lots of great references that I hadn't seen before. So, OP in fact has done WTC a great service by creating this very informative thread.

Notice how OP has completely ignored this comment: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2214505.msg22365584#msg22365584 which eliminates all doubts 100%.

Again, here is the link to a scientific paper which SuKi Kim has co-authored (with a photo of him at the end), it's clearly the same guy.

See all of his scientific papers here: http://www.dbpia.co.kr/Author/AuthorInfo?arcId=&ancId=1035431

Fake News!  :D :D :D




Haha i know right! I guess he reckons Korea University were in on the scam and agreed to create an email address for him as part of the ruse.

The Original Poster of this thread is really living in a fantasy world.. the fact that he goes on and on and on about WTC is bordering on obsessive (does he not have anything else to do with his time?)

In fact, the amount of time and devotion he spends trying to run WTC down makes me think HE is the one who is running a scam.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: jono_t2000 on October 02, 2017, 02:03:08 AM
LOL, OP is obviously a comedian troll who is clearly aware that all of his comments are nonsense. He doesn't even make an effort to form good arguments.

In fact, carefully reading this thread clears all doubts that WTC is a serious project. Lots of great references that I hadn't seen before. So, OP in fact has done WTC a great service by creating this very informative thread.

Notice how OP has completely ignored this comment: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2214505.msg22365584#msg22365584 which eliminates all doubts 100%.

Again, here is the link to a scientific paper which SuKi Kim has co-authored (with a photo of him at the end), it's clearly the same guy.

See all of his scientific papers here: http://www.dbpia.co.kr/Author/AuthorInfo?arcId=&ancId=1035431

Fake News!  :D :D :D




Haha i know right! I guess he reckons Korea University were in on the scam and agreed to create an email address for him as part of the ruse.

The Original Poster of this thread is really living in a fantasy world.. the fact that he goes on and on and on about WTC is bordering on obsessive (does he not have anything else to do with his time?)

In fact, the amount of time and devotion he spends trying to run WTC down makes me think HE is the one who is running a scam.




I have just gone through the Original Posters's posts on here and literally 99% of them include the word scam at some point in the post. He has no credibility, think this dude has probably been scammed at some point and now have some deeper personal issues than just WTC


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Peter1984 on October 02, 2017, 02:07:40 AM
I'm pretty sure OP doesn't actually believe his nonsense. Perhaps he just enjoys messing with people and clowning around. Well, he's helped me get good info. :)

Here's more:

At the bottom here is a photo of Kim with his Chinese name Jin Xiji (金锡基): http://www.xmsilicon.com (Asian names are usually translated: https://i.imgur.com/Uq2kvIR.png )

Here is one of his patents: https://encrypted.google.com/patents/CN1025094C?cl=no

Here he is wearing a Walton shirt: http://tech.china.com/article/20170712/2017071239958.html

Also nice:

http://english.china.com/about/

Quote
About China.com

Launched in May, 1999, China.com is one of the earliest Web portals in China. After 18 years of growth and development, China.com has evolved into the most profitable online platform for businesses in China. Being one of the country's most influential online media outlets, China.com boasts at least 10 million regular readers. Among them, 82 percent are well-educated, mature males with high-end jobs and high incomes.

Yeah, right, Fake News!  :D :D :D




I have just gone through the Original Posters's posts on here and literally 99% of them include the word scam at some point in the post. He has no credibility, think this dude has probably been scammed at some point and now have some deeper personal issues than just WTC

He's clearly a poor researcher:

I'm a fan of Zcoin. Much better privacy that Monero and a good, innovative road map.
Very undervalued.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on October 02, 2017, 05:48:38 AM
I know I am close the mark, hence, your response  ;D

Keihatsu has yet to be scammed.

And, yes, I like Zcoin.

I just googled "bitcoin seoul" AND "scam". The man has a history.

Domain privacy service useful, considering.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: edrek on October 02, 2017, 09:47:57 AM
Without any shadow of a doubt, WTC is a scam.

Get out while you can!

There is no reliable record of the team i.e. linking them and their experience to the project.
Try and find evidence linking the supposed former VP of Samsung to Samsung and the project.

This forum and Reddit is full of very blatant WTC shills. The comments on Reddit are beyond belief.

Listed on only one exchange, with a relatively small number of tokens (compared to similar projects) the price looks like it is being manipulated.

They are pretending to win a competition that does not exist. The "Jinjiang Competition" - there is no reliable source for this whatsoever. This is an unverified/fake news http://www.kinews.net/news/articleView.html?idxno=110897
Seriously, they have just won a major competition - logos stuck on t-shirts, with a dodgy banner outside a sports centre. I've been to plenty of award ceremonies and competition results, this is a joke.

The website is poorly developed. If these people are serious/investable why can't they design a website or t-shirts. And it's called Walton coin. Serious business people would be much, much slicker than this.

I suspect a lot of effort has gone into making this appear credible but it isn't. Some people have seen big returns this week and are talking about market cap increase to $1billion+ and are dismissing my point of view with comments like "ah, well, things are lost in translation. they all have similar names and everyone is VP at Samsung. Western news would not cover the competition" etc.

You have been warned!

My only interest is for good people not to lose money.

For the record, my investments are: Waves, Wagerr, Zcoin, District0X, ARK and Monero.

I have no conflicts of interest and nothing to gain from this post.

Quote
Jin Xiji (chinese name) / Kim Suk-Ki (korean name), the chief scientist for WaltonChain:
Patents: https://www.google.sr/search?tbo=p&tbm=pts&hl=en&q=ininventor:%22%E9%87%91%E9%94%A1%E5%9F%BA%22&gws_rd=ssl
Mentioned in ETRI journal: https://i.imgur.com/Uq2kvIR.png : http://[Suspicious link removed]/ZRbuHY
More confirmation of his credentials through visionkorea: http://www.visionkorea.com/will/pol/inmuldetailinfo.asp?checkpost=checkpost2015&mfldname=will&prm1name=id&prm1value=13728&prm2name=&prm2value=&jcd=2013&cid=915&partcid=&menuno=3&submenuno=4&page=&memcheck=1234567vs&PHONE_NUMBER=&apgugun=&aprange=&tablename=%C1%A4%C4%A1%C0%CE%B9%B0%C1%A4%BA%B81#가족관계
Here, he is the Chief Scientist for Silicon Group (who won the Jin Jiang competition), and who sponsors Walton Chain: http://www.xmsilicon.com
Looking around on that site, it looks like they pretty much ARE WaltonChain. Mo Bing and Chen Zhangrong are also directors there: http://www.xmsilicon.com/col.jsp?id=130
On this page, the picture of the office looks to be the same one in the WaltonChain tour video, which further substantiates WaltonChain's link to Silicon Group: http://www.xmsilicon.com/col.jsp?id=104
Or how about Chen Zhangrong, who you're labeling "budget actor"? An article on him when he was (or still is) president of Tianyu International Group, Co. Ltd.: http://news.china-ef.com/471356.html
There are also countless news articles about the Walton team & their partnerships:
https://kknews.cc/tech/z3r55ep.html
Here is one about their cooperation with Septwolves: http://tech.china.com/article/20170824/2017082452565.html
http://www.jcjcs.com/news/2017122.html
http://blog.sina.cn/dpool/blog/s/blog_1762e50170102xb44.html?type=-1
http://tech.china.com/article/20170826/2017082652997.html?qq-pf-to=pcqq.c2c
http://tech.china.com/article/20170823/2017082352011.html
http://district.ce.cn/newarea/qyzx/201706/19/t20170619_23708580.shtml
and there's likely much more that I missed over.
Mate, their credentials are definitely legitimate.

Thanks to user areesseye on Reddit!

https://www.reddit.com/r/waltonchain/comments/73rfho/just_went_to_bitcointalk_to_see_what_the_thoughts/


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: fetka88 on October 02, 2017, 10:34:36 AM
Not having Slack is a good thing though, too many fake accounts phishing for ether wallets on there.


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agree, slack is far more scammy than WALTON itself. Telegram to the mooon


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: kakusnice on October 02, 2017, 10:37:51 AM
Statement

Banning ICOs is to prohibit future ICOs to be carried out in South Korea, the currently existing and completed ICO projects in South Korea will not be affected. The meaning of the news articles is to punish or convict individuals and groups using the tool of initial offering of crypt to currencies to be used in unlawful activities. On the other hand, this regulation on banning ICOs is good news to WTC, to rid of the fake and leaving the strong and the good, to refine high quality and even global block chain projects. The block chain industry / communities require such self-discipline and supervision, for the promotion of a healthier development of the block chain industry.
As for WTC, we are clearly done with our ICO process and already being traded on an exchange right now. This regulation would not impact us, and from another angle, the industry will certainly benefit from this regulation. WTC Korea will continue to accelerate our pace and efforts here and also the global market.
(Walton chain Technology Co.,Ltd)

2017/9/29


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: thepo1m on October 02, 2017, 10:55:27 AM
Statement

Banning ICOs is to prohibit future ICOs to be carried out in South Korea, the currently existing and completed ICO projects in South Korea will not be affected. The meaning of the news articles is to punish or convict individuals and groups using the tool of initial offering of crypt to currencies to be used in unlawful activities. On the other hand, this regulation on banning ICOs is good news to WTC, to rid of the fake and leaving the strong and the good, to refine high quality and even global block chain projects. The block chain industry / communities require such self-discipline and supervision, for the promotion of a healthier development of the block chain industry.
As for WTC, we are clearly done with our ICO process and already being traded on an exchange right now. This regulation would not impact us, and from another angle, the industry will certainly benefit from this regulation. WTC Korea will continue to accelerate our pace and efforts here and also the global market.
(Walton chain Technology Co.,Ltd)

2017/9/29

I have been looking for ways how these affect the ICO projects that have already completed their token sale, so project like  Walton and Boscoin will not be affected, I think


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: deadestfish on October 02, 2017, 01:03:57 PM
I see Waltonchain have added an English section to their website. (http://www.waltonchain.org/) Useful quote:

Quote
The logic of Waltonchain appreciation

1      Any child needs to use Waltonchain to create money, with Walton ecosystem continues to grow, there will be more and more businesses to join Walton's ecological system, businesses need to consume a large amount of money for Walton to create a variety of sub chain, Walton on currency demand rising.


I mean, ANY CHILD NEEDS TO USE WALTONCHAIN TO CREATE MONEY. This should clear up any doubt. How could anyone fud this wonderful project?

ANY CHILD NEEDS TO USE WALTONCHAIN TO CREATE MONEY!


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on October 03, 2017, 08:21:33 AM
I have spoken to Fujian Septwolves Industry Co Ltd  +86 59 2537 7777

They are unaware of Walton Chain (WTC). As a company listed on the Shenzhen Stock Exchange, they have a legal obligation to disclose any partnership that would have a material impact on the business. The company does not know who Xu Fang is (according to Walton Chain he is the project sponsor and "seven wolves company supply chain management director"). Xu Fang is certainly not listed in any company filings going back several years:
http://quicktake.morningstar.com/stocknet/secdocuments.aspx?symbol=002029&country=chn
https://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/people.asp?privcapId=12763522

I have emailed Jin Xiji (SuKi Kim) "former VP of Samsung" about his involvement in the project, I have yet to receive a response.

I have contacted Korea Universtiy to check the SuKi Kim is a Professor Emirates there and that I have the correct contact details.

It is very difficult to find public profiles for most of the team. I have tracked down a Zhu Yanping, who is Taiwanese and has a PhD in engineering, he is not aware of Walton Chain.

Qiu Jun "angel investor" and the "Shenzhen Hong Tao Fund" does not exist, neither does the "Calton Dayton Clothing Co".



So, as the previous poster stated, this should not be viewed as anything other than shit coin for pump and dump.

I find it hard to believe people would invest in project like Watlon Chain based purely on face value and what they say. There are more holes than swiss cheese.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: qluerphon on October 03, 2017, 09:05:02 AM
Thank you for the research @Keihatsu; and for the heads up.

I've also sensed a lot of inconsistencies and all around sloppiness vis-a-vis this project. Hopefully you're right and it's a shit coin for pump and dump.
I'm personally looking forward for more information to come to light in the upcoming days.

Cheers!


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: dimmyboy on October 03, 2017, 09:37:37 AM
Thank you Keihatsu for your investigation

WTC seems suspicious to me as well, what I think is that they are gaining attention because of a good ideas. Idea is the only thing they got. Is there a working product? I didnt manage to find anything. Real life applications, big company press-releases?

I know people from one project which gained a ton of money during their ICO with only an idea with no working product. They collected 50m dollars and realized "shit, we need to do something now" because they initial plan was to take the money and chill on beautiful island rest of their lifes. Well luckily they hired a team of professionals and now developing their product

Maybe its the same with WTC. They offered a really nice cover. But what is inside? Dunno

Its easy to list notable people on the website. You had one meeting? Put them on a website. You had one call? Put them on a website.

Well actually I personally know a lot of CEOs of various big businesses. Can I run my own ICO? Lets do it!  ;D

What seems interesting for me is another project - VeChain. I started my little investigation and I presonally think that WTC is a combination of good ideas from VeChain

So WTC was established November 30, 2016 - what I found from their website.

Vechain was established earlier:

in 2015, BitSE launched Vechain, a solution to deal with anti-counterfeiting through applying a unique ID to each product / item.
16 June 2016 – PwC China signed a join business relationship with BitSE

So from its beginning in 2015-2017 VeChain trying to combine NFC, RFID or QR with blockhain. Its what WTC trying to do, right?

I think WTC may not be a scam, but they are doing everything to look much better than they are in reality.

Everybody is talking about WTC strong team. WTF, their website just gives a compilation of random people connected to blockhain/rfid tech/supply chain. Dont even have same style photos.

Congrats for everyone who made ton of money with WTC, but IMHO dont hodl, bubble can pop - be careful


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on October 03, 2017, 10:13:50 AM
This morning I reported Walton Chain (WTC) to:

Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) - UK
Securities & Exchange Commission (SEC) - US
National Internet Finance Association of China


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: FundsMoney on October 03, 2017, 12:01:19 PM
Despite all arguments thrown into this topic, it is obvious there are many new accounts created just to reply here.

The replies are ridiculous for newbie accounts.

I'm not the one to do conspiracy theories, BUT these things truly happen in the crypto world. We're talking about money. People will do anything to earn some.

My theory is that Keihatsu may have lost the train on this coin, wants to create FUD to get in because he knows the project is legit and has the potential to get to really big prices. He has probably created some bitcointalk accounts by himself to reply in this thread.
Second theory is that they want to destabilize WTC because they didn't invest at the right time. Now they want to pump VeChain. Good luck with that.

Also, remember WaltonChain is heavily FUDDed by 4chan community.
https://i.redd.it/ivcr6uqvkipz.jpg

What I learnt is never do what most say. If many people say you should invest in something, then DON'T.
In the same time, if many people say you should definitely SELL some coin, DON'T SELL! It's most likely a trap. Think about it.

Conclusion: don't trust anyone, not even myself. Do you own research, counter all arguments and make your own decision. Don't let yourself manipulated.

All the best!


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: deadestfish on October 03, 2017, 01:24:09 PM

I'm not the one to do conspiracy theories, BUT these things truly happen in the crypto world. We're talking about money. People will do anything to earn some.

My theory is that Keihatsu may have lost the train on this coin, wants to create FUD to get in because he knows the project is legit and has the potential to get to really big prices. He has probably created some bitcointalk accounts by himself to reply in this thread.
Second theory is that they want to destabilize WTC because they didn't invest at the right time.


It's weird how those who invest in WTC start to sound like a religious cult. If someone expresses doubts about the project, its because they really want in but hope they can drag the price down with their doubts. This is absurd. If there was a really sound product behind Waltonchain, comments on a forum should not affect the price to the extent required to make this claim carry any weight.

It should cause serious thought to investors in Waltonchain, that the coin has been available since the end of August, but the 'blockchain' has yet to be released or seen by anyone outside of the project team.

Any child needs to use Waltonchain to create money.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: limefatcat on October 03, 2017, 03:41:36 PM


It's weird how those who invest in WTC start to sound like a religious cult.
[/quote]

go to subs of ETH, NEO, OMG, ARK, etc (all of which I'm invested in btw) and you will see worse. People getting excited and shilling their coin is what the community is about.

HOWEVER, people like keihatsu who take time out of their busy schedule to not only warn others about WTC when he has ABSOLUTELY no interest in it are very very rare.
While on the surface he may sound like a complete psychopath cold calling Septwolves, etc and what may appear to us newbs as someone who is mentally instable,
I only see a crusader who has only the interest of others in his heart. A true hero. Bravo.

This newb, who has been holding over 2 dozen BTC since the $500 days and just made 600% on WTC will certainly take your words into serious consideration.



Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: rezurect on October 03, 2017, 03:56:40 PM
Despite all arguments thrown into this topic, it is obvious there are many new accounts created just to reply here.

The replies are ridiculous for newbie accounts.


I don't know why some of them even bother. It's just annoying and we don't take them serious anyway.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Delicat on October 03, 2017, 04:07:00 PM
well, if it is a scam, it sure a very successful one. the price has raise a lot right now.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Cruster on October 03, 2017, 05:05:52 PM
I have spoken to Fujian Septwolves Industry Co Ltd  +86 59 2537 7777

They are unaware of Walton Chain (WTC). As a company listed on the Shenzhen Stock Exchange, they have a legal obligation to disclose any partnership that would have a material impact on the business. The company does not know who Xu Fang is (according to Walton Chain he is the project sponsor and "seven wolves company supply chain management director"). Xu Fang is certainly not listed in any company filings going back several years:
http://quicktake.morningstar.com/stocknet/secdocuments.aspx?symbol=002029&country=chn
https://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/people.asp?privcapId=12763522

This was the only thing in your post I found interesting. If you spoke to them you should have evidence of the conversation. Post it here so we can see/hear what was said.

I doubt he did get anyone on the phone, considering right now are the biggest holidays in china (moon festival).

https://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/china/

Even if he did get someone, that person has most likely no idea what crypto even is or if it is beeing used in their company right now.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: CryptoV on October 03, 2017, 06:21:04 PM
I know I am close the mark, hence, your response  ;D

Keihatsu has yet to be scammed.

And, yes, I like Zcoin.

I just googled "bitcoin seoul" AND "scam". The man has a history.

Domain privacy service useful, considering.


Here's that Korean scam artist:

https://robertkim-scam-korean-american-conman.blogspot.be/2014/11/korean-american-con-man-defrauds.html (https://robertkim-scam-korean-american-conman.blogspot.be/2014/11/korean-american-con-man-defrauds.html)


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: deadestfish on October 03, 2017, 07:30:25 PM
Public note: I'm personally invested into Walton with 100% of my capital.

People can make their own decisions, but even if Waltonchain is not a scam, the best case scenario is that it is an early stage tech start up. No-one but the founders should be staking 100% of their capital on it.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: hackg on October 03, 2017, 08:15:10 PM
This is a turning out to be a pretty legit project, and already made me some decent profit at 5x-6x

They also got some Chinese govt related contracts and are getting a lot of attention in asia (they were one of the few coins allowed to continue despite recent ICO, many others had to refund contributors)

I agree you would be an idiot to bet 100% of your capital on this or ANY one single coin

This is far from a scam though, I encourage everyone to take another look so you don't miss a potential good coin here


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: deadestfish on October 03, 2017, 09:41:25 PM
 For what it is worth I have emailed to the JinJiang government asking if they have details about the JinJiang competition. I can let people know if I get a reply. The contact details they have for the public are here: http://en.jinjiang.gov.cn/2015-04/22/content_20509303.htm
 
 If anyone is able to contact them in Mandarin or Min Nan that would be good. I'm not sure who is likely to receive my message in China and if they will be able to understand what I am asking. It would be good to get some corroborating details on the JinJiang competition and the 1.3 billion yuan Waltonchain say they have won.

 The more I think about Waltonchain's claim about building a new blockchain the less sense it makes to me. The Parent Blockchain section of the whitepaper:

Quote
The Walton Parent Chain is the main chain of the Walton block chain, starting from the Walton Genesis Block, which provides a wealth of functions including but not limited to Walton Coin (WTC) transaction management, sub chain management, smart contract, alias and account control, etc.

What they are selling though is pretty standard Ethereum smart contract, not a new token on a new blockchain or even starting from a new Genesis block from what I can see. My knowledge of the Ethereum platform is beginner at best though. For anyone who is interested the WaltonToken smart contract code is here: https://etherscan.io/address/0xb7cb1c96db6b22b0d3d9536e0108d062bd488f74#code

I don't see anything to back up a claim that this token has been used in trial at a billion dollar clothing company. Personally, I don't understand the relationship between this token and the Value Internet of Things.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Scholles on October 03, 2017, 10:14:13 PM
Isn't this a shame, better luck next time


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Rastadon on October 03, 2017, 10:26:27 PM
Public note: I'm personally invested into Walton with 100% of my capital.

People can make their own decisions, but even if Waltonchain is not a scam, the best case scenario is that it is an early stage tech start up. No-one but the founders should be staking 100% of their capital on it.
If the walton chain already verified as a scam and coinmarketcap may remove the walton chain from the list. https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/walton/
The possibility to be scam will always there but you must remember to make a clarification with the people that was having an engagement with the team.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: sensimilia on October 03, 2017, 11:14:29 PM
Public note: I'm personally invested into Walton with 100% of my capital.

People can make their own decisions, but even if Waltonchain is not a scam, the best case scenario is that it is an early stage tech start up. No-one but the founders should be staking 100% of their capital on it.
If the walton chain already verified as a scam and coinmarketcap may remove the walton chain from the list. https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/walton/
The possibility to be scam will always there but you must remember to make a clarification with the people that was having an engagement with the team.

All I heard from them was samsung samsung samsung, followed by a pump, when this appeared to not quite be the case, it left a bad taste in my mouth.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: zaygatsby on October 04, 2017, 12:45:35 AM
Feel bad for anybody who sold based off this guys FUD.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: invest2lose on October 04, 2017, 02:31:34 AM
Feel bad for anybody who sold based off this guys FUD.

don't feel bad, i rode it from $2 to $8. dumped it all for now. too sketchy for me. i'll jump back in if there's more legit news vs all the shilling on this one.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: cryptonerd2010 on October 04, 2017, 05:38:48 AM
the price rushed to an ath of 8,70 USD and it is stable at the moment at around 7,50 USD, it is an incredible price performance and if this is a scam i only want to invest in scams for the future


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: DamZanDon on October 04, 2017, 06:09:47 AM
the price rushed to an ath of 8,70 USD and it is stable at the moment at around 7,50 USD, it is an incredible price performance and if this is a scam i only want to invest in scams for the future

Just have a strategy in place for getting out. Ride a scam too long and you'll get burned like 90% of the people.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on October 04, 2017, 03:54:40 PM
I stand corrected.

The "Straits Cup" Industrial Design (Jinjiang) Competition of Fujian Province does exist.

http://www.52jingsai.com/article-3894-1.html

But they have never heard of Walton Chain.

Competition Organizing Committee Office Address: Room 505, Building 1, International Industrial Design Park, Hongshan Cultural and Creative Industrial Park, Qingyang, Jinjiang City, Fujian Province
Contact: Chen Li bottle Huang Wenbin Tel: 0595-82682939
E-mail: hxbfjjj@126.com
Competition Award Supervision Committee Office Address: Jinjiang City, Fujian Province, Qingyang Quan Zhong Road 525, Foreign Trade Building, 507
Contact: Zhang Nini Tel: 0595-85617805
E-mail: yeb112@sina.com

And the highest prize is $50,000 & WTC claims to have won $1,000,000

Also, Chinese search engines and social media cannot find any evidence that the project co-founder 许芳呈 exists.

I have a friend from Fuzhou, Fujian Province, who has helped me with this research.

Still nothing back from SuKi Kim.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: limefatcat on October 04, 2017, 05:48:56 PM
keihatsu...internet stranger...get some help dude

and why would these companies waste their time answering an email from some random stranger.
if i worked for any of these companies and got an email from someone random whacko it would straight into the trashbin


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: 777antoine777 on October 04, 2017, 05:52:49 PM
Public note: I'm personally invested into Walton with 100% of my capital.

People can make their own decisions, but even if Waltonchain is not a scam, the best case scenario is that it is an early stage tech start up. No-one but the founders should be staking 100% of their capital on it.




first rule in life  :   never put all you eggs in the same basket  ;D


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: bitbadgerman on October 04, 2017, 09:14:43 PM
For me WTC  is not scam  !!! please confirm


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: rgm108 on October 04, 2017, 09:53:45 PM
I'm always dubious when I see "dump this coin its a scam" post, 9/10 its someone trying to scare investors out of their positions and crash the price so the individual can get in at a cheaper rate because they missed a good entry.

Just makes the individual look bad, I personally have researched and am happy to have capital invested. But always, always do your own research if you have doubts.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Peter1984 on October 04, 2017, 11:44:27 PM
I'm always dubious when I see "dump this coin its a scam" post, 9/10 its someone trying to scare investors out of their positions and crash the price so the individual can get in at a cheaper rate because they missed a good entry.

Just makes the individual look bad, I personally have researched and am happy to have capital invested. But always, always do your own research if you have doubts.

This.

It's crazy what people are willing to do. This thread is an especially poor attempt. OP has no arguments in the face of all the overwhelming evidence and just blurts: "Fake News!"

OP presents hies lies as facts with no prove and dismisses all the facts.

I wouldn't advice anyone to buy WTC, just because I don't give trading advice at all but the mean-spirited nature of these FUDing attempts are really unbelievable.

There are some amazing people here at bitcointalk but also the lowest of the low. They would sell their mother and their soul for a few bucks.

Shillers want to sell high, FUDers want to buy cheap, and hodlers hodl.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: mrscbw on October 06, 2017, 06:49:56 AM
All this scam talk had me kind of skeptical until I ran into these sources..

https://imgur.com/gallery/Jcxe5 (https://imgur.com/gallery/Jcxe5)

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/1261221/authors?reload=true&ctx=authors (http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/1261221/authors?reload=true&ctx=authors)

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/search/searchresult.jsp?queryText=suki%20kim&rowsPerPage=75 (http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/search/searchresult.jsp?queryText=suki%20kim&rowsPerPage=75)

http://www.dbpia.co.kr/Author/AuthorInfo?arcId=&ancId=1035431 (http://www.dbpia.co.kr/Author/AuthorInfo?arcId=&ancId=1035431)

100% Legit, can't wait to see where WaltonChain goes! All in on this one, this guy is really something.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on October 06, 2017, 08:10:04 AM

[/quote]

Shillers want to sell high, FUDers want to buy cheap, and hodlers hodl.
[/quote]

And scammers scam. I have never held a WTC token and I never want to own a WTC token.

The facts remain:

No third parties can verify anything the project claims

The team cannot be verified

There is no evidence of code or technical progression

The moderators' hype and only want to talk about lambos & returns, nothing of any substance

Anyone that asks questions is booted from forums


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on October 06, 2017, 11:24:44 AM
Your unwillingness to respond to my request for evidence of your conversation with Septwolves heavily suggests you are a liar.

Hey, I didn't record the conversation, but I have asked for confirmation in writing to share with you.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: duyduc256 on October 06, 2017, 11:56:18 AM
I think this project is heavily dependent on investors and they give free WTC to encourage investors to participate, which is really bad for this project and certainly no one will list WTC.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Cruster on October 06, 2017, 03:22:56 PM
Keihatsu

If you want to find some credit about the people just go on waltonchain.org/team ,  then take the chinese name of the people and put it into google. For easy findings just look at google pictures and take the path to wherever that leads.
I did it for the funder and the chief scientist and got for both some results, which I put in a word file because I can't bother to take more than 15 minutes out of my day to convince you.
Check over it quickly and tell me

1. How did the founder scam a logistics company, which received one award in 2016 and one in 2017, into partnering with him on his scam project?

2. Why is the chief scientist of Waltonchain on the main page of www.xmsilicon.com with exactly the same credentials as listed on the waltonchain project?

Some screenshots can be found in this PDF I put together quickly:

https://www.docdroid.net/gdweOdk/waltonchain.pdf

If you don't trust that site I'll upload the PDF somewhere else.




Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on October 07, 2017, 08:36:41 AM
And what do you think of this article discussing Walton Chain on a .gov.cn website? Is this fake news too?

http://www.dongshanisland.gov.cn/hbsh/e2017072832482.html

Sorry, the website www.dongshanisland.gov.cn cannot be found.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on October 07, 2017, 05:03:19 PM
Hopefully my last post about Walton Chain.

I thought Walton Chain was a scam. And I still think Walton Chain is a scam.

The team cannot be verified.

The partnerships cannot be verified by any credible third party.

The aggressive response from those associated with the project is not how a genuine business would respond.

There is no evidence that any code has been developed.

I contacted Binance and they said they don't care if it's a scam.

What happened during the ICO (before Binance and presence on the forum) is sketchy.

A handful of moderators and paid shills on Reddit & Slack only talk about massive gains and use pressure tactics, nothing of substance, and ban anyone for asking reasonable questions the team is unwilling to answer.

The market is clearly being manipulated. Today everything is down except WTC which is up 15%. This is because of large transactions by wallets from the exchange that move the tokens around. https://etherscan.io/token/0xb7cb1c96db6b22b0d3d9536e0108d062bd488f74


That's my take on it. Others may disagree. As always, do your own research.

K



Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: fuddispeller on October 07, 2017, 05:27:47 PM
OP straight up lies about supposed conversations with binance/septwolves/the team/everyone. He hasn't provided proof for any.

On the contrary, here's actual proof of binance saying they WOULD clearly care if its a scam, given that they thoroughly vet each addition before they add it. This is also a key point from the binance whitepaper. https://i.redd.it/m0zuyws91wpz.jpg

And because I don't want to waste any more time ill leave this. Here's waltonchain news on a chinese GOVERNMENT (.gov.cn) website, yeah, they've entered into cooperation with a chinese company with a market cap of over 900m dollars and a chinese government cosigns it: http://www.dongshanisland.gov.cn/hbsh/e2017072832482.html

I'm glad this thread was made, people can read through it and see that all of the fake concerns people raise about the coin are debunked in one convenient place


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: anasso on October 07, 2017, 05:45:33 PM
scam or not, i see a worrying phenomenon!

when people see a chinese project they rush!! a good example is NEO despite no product just roadmap!



Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on October 07, 2017, 05:48:56 PM
OP straight up lies about supposed conversations with binance/septwolves/the team/everyone. He hasn't provided proof for any.

On the contrary, here's actual proof of binance saying they WOULD clearly care if its a scam, given that they thoroughly vet each addition before they add it. This is also a key point from the binance whitepaper. https://i.redd.it/m0zuyws91wpz.jpg

And because I don't want to waste any more time ill leave this. Here's waltonchain news on a chinese GOVERNMENT (.gov.cn) website, yeah, they've entered into cooperation with a chinese company with a market cap of over 900m dollars and a chinese government cosigns it: http://www.dongshanisland.gov.cn/hbsh/e2017072832482.html

I'm glad this thread was made, people can read through it and see that all of the fake concerns people raise about the coin are debunked in one convenient place


One last question, who are you?
You speak as if it's your project.
I'm still not quite sure who represents the project on this forum?
Many new accounts on this thread.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: kilobytez on October 07, 2017, 05:57:55 PM
OK I read mandarin / chinese. Most of those angel investors (initial) are legit! Co-founders are legit too!
The rest of the chinese nationals, I have no input on but believe to be their recruits towards walton RFID development.
ICO dispute and refunded to public investors due to China ICO Ban.

http://www.waltonchain.org/img/person_1.jpg
CO-Founder 许芳呈 (xu fang cheng)
1. https://cn.linkedin.com/in/%E8%8A%B3%E5%91%88-%E8%AE%B8-8ba924144
2. http://news.ifeng.com/a/20170619/51278777_0.shtml
3. https://item.btime.com/001jbbfmu3dlru92sba36mn1er8

http://www.waltonchain.org/img/person_2.jpg
CO-Founder 도상혁 (do sang hyeok) -
1. http://kr.avingnews.com/news/view.php?articleId=30902&cateId=&mn_name=&ref_cat=&sp_num=278
2. http://m.blog.daum.net/well-being-hvac/11149603
3. http://www.kgnews.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=154979

Sina Blog on Walton updates (last update @ 24/8) : http://blog.sina.com.cn/u/6277713943
I do agree the Tee shirt is not professional; you know it's cheap design and printing cost for such tee shirt in China!
New company wanna keep all budget low maybe?

Though the site doesn't have any english translation, Blog running on Sina is a bit messy without flash 10 plugins, but most of the development  updates are fine! Not much news update though.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: FundsMoney on October 07, 2017, 06:08:40 PM
Many newbie accounts spreading the FUD as well, mr Keihatsu! If you measure the negative sentiment vs positive sentiment, you’ll see that most negative comments are coming from newbies.

This “scam” coin just announced they’ll be added to hitBTC in 4 days!

https://mobile.twitter.com/Waltonchain/status/916492214947110912

Is hitBTC also adding fraudulent projects? Not to mention they are working on getting listed on other exchanges soon.

Would every exchange just add a coin without going through some checks first?

The team is also active on YouTube.
This is Xu Fangcheng, the founder of WTC introducing himself today:

https://youtu.be/Nny1wGaXFKI

He’s a paid actor, right?

To date, mr Keihatsu, you have provided no evidence to support your claims.
If you really want to be taken serious, provide some evidence please. Otherwise, your arguments are just words and propaganda.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: kilobytez on October 07, 2017, 06:24:14 PM
I stand corrected.

The "Straits Cup" Industrial Design (Jinjiang) Competition of Fujian Province does exist.

http://www.52jingsai.com/article-3894-1.html

But they have never heard of Walton Chain.

Competition Organizing Committee Office Address: Room 505, Building 1, International Industrial Design Park, Hongshan Cultural and Creative Industrial Park, Qingyang, Jinjiang City, Fujian Province
Contact: Chen Li bottle Huang Wenbin Tel: 0595-82682939
E-mail: hxbfjjj@126.com
Competition Award Supervision Committee Office Address: Jinjiang City, Fujian Province, Qingyang Quan Zhong Road 525, Foreign Trade Building, 507
Contact: Zhang Nini Tel: 0595-85617805
E-mail: yeb112@sina.com

And the highest prize is $50,000 & WTC claims to have won $1,000,000

Also, Chinese search engines and social media cannot find any evidence that the project co-founder 许芳呈 exists.

I have a friend from Fuzhou, Fujian Province, who has helped me with this research.

Still nothing back from SuKi Kim.

Here you go

1. http://tech.china.com/article/20170827/2017082753050.html
2. https://read01.com/0edxExz.html#.WdkapxOCwWo
3. http://www.sohu.com/a/167645733_425750



Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on October 07, 2017, 08:41:33 PM
you guys are funny. no proof.

Like I've said before, I suspect some of the people exist and are cited in journals. You've yet to prove their involvement in the project.

xu fang cheng - the LinkedIn profile you link to has 0 contacts, no photograph and doesn't mention SeptWolves.

Come on, please!

No more nonsense, I'm trying to leave this thread alone.

No proof of contracts and partnership (contractual agreements or press releases or news stories from the other parties).
No evidence the team are either who you say they are or are involved in the team.
No product or evidence of code.
Manipulation of the market.
Sketchy details around the ICO.

One of the dodgiest projects I have ever seen.

The point I'm making is, no serious investor or bank, or I for that matter would touch WTC with a barge pole.

PS.
And, yes, you probably have used actors or impersonators.
And, yes, journalism isn't what it use to be some I'm sure you have some sh1t published.

 





Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: etter on October 07, 2017, 09:30:28 PM
My god, how hard can it be to prove that a thing is legit? This one clearly can't put out anything tangible for us. Photos, really? Legit angels?
It's enough already that there is so much buzz around it being a scam. It's like with positive and negative reviews. If you liked something, you hardly ever go to leave a positive review, but if you get F'd by anything, you'll make sure to warn the people.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: VeeTeaSee on October 07, 2017, 10:26:27 PM
so what is the conclusion about this project??
i think its not a scam if its listen in binance, and got so much marketcap lately
but why the circulating supply is 25% of the coins?


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Gorgeous011235 on October 08, 2017, 12:07:51 AM
In my opinion many of this projects are "potential" scams.
I mean there are so many of them out there which are listed on the dex and have a big price
but many of them are not producing anything and not giving any kind of service yet.
But people are speculating over that and making big money.
So we are in the middle of a bubble..the bubble is getting filled everyday more and more until 
one day the bubble crashes and we will find out which of them were scams and which not..easy..welcome to crypto 2020  ;D

P.s. If you want to be part of a strong community and invest in a coin with a brilliant future i suggest you to take a look at this project :
www.deeponion.org


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: CrazyCreeptonaut on October 08, 2017, 12:18:25 AM

P.s. If you want to be part of a strong community and invest in a coin with a brilliant future i suggest you to take a look at this project :
www.deeponion.org


strong community, is not bunch of people who spam the forum and "defend" their coin against people who call it scam. strong community is like Vertcoin and Pivx, who make a lot for the coin, in development, marketing and donation...
deep onion community is so "strong" just because they get many coins every week :\ and because people make many accounts for the airdrop


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Atlienz404 on October 08, 2017, 02:41:22 AM
Whoever posted this has done little to no research I see. There is old and current articles that link the members One recently on a gov.cn site. Old articles on current team members in there perspective fields and people forgot about neo’s Old website with 100 typos come on man they are Chinese let them finish their parent chain and tech then send a real comment. Plus the current coin is an erc20 placeholder token until the parent chain comes out in a few weeks so of course they’re not going to settle for Big exchanges yet. Do some real research before you call something a scam I heard the same story for Neo when it was Antshares and not known as it is now. relax


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Cruster on October 08, 2017, 02:49:05 PM
you guys are funny. no proof.

Like I've said before, I suspect some of the people exist and are cited in journals. You've yet to prove their involvement in the project.


It has been done (e.g Jin Xiji (Chief Scientist), he is mentioned on http://www.xmsilicon.com/ at the bottom of the page, and has several pictures with a waltonshirt on the waltonchain blog), but you ignore that or claim it is fake.

You didn't provide any proof for your claims, for example the phone call on a national holiday, which you could easily do again and record.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: fuddispeller on October 14, 2017, 03:39:08 PM
https://twitter.com/Waltonchain/status/919218373208064002

For readers, here's the guy OP has been saying has nothing to do with waltonchain. The ex VP. The guy with all the published papers and patents.

Still a scam?


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Gorgeous011235 on October 19, 2017, 05:23:23 PM

P.s. If you want to be part of a strong community and invest in a coin with a brilliant future i suggest you to take a look at this project :
www.deeponion.org


strong community, is not bunch of people who spam the forum and "defend" their coin against people who call it scam. strong community is like Vertcoin and Pivx, who make a lot for the coin, in development, marketing and donation...
deep onion community is so "strong" just because they get many coins every week :\ and because people make many accounts for the airdrop

It's sad to see so much ignorance in some people!
First of all i am not spamming!But suggesting!And this is one of the main purposes of the forum..exchanging opinions and advices about crypto in general!
Have you ever tried to join DeepOnion community???Do you know anything about the project and what the devs. and users of the community are doing daily to make the project rise???
Ignorance is the biggest evil for mankind! :(


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: stueng on October 31, 2017, 11:35:52 PM
When I first started reading this thread I must admit I was a bit concerned, could this be an elaborate scam? However, I kept reading, post after post the OP was losing credibility, until the defining moment when it became obvious he doesn't know much about anything as he doesn't even understand that a sub-domain is intrinsically linked to the root domain, you cannot make a "fake news" website on sub.domain.com without OWNING domain.com in the first place, in other words you are accusing china.com of posting fake news.

So, my confidence in Walton chain has been restored by the plain stupidity of the OP


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Ionico on November 01, 2017, 04:32:41 AM
Seems like someone wants to buy at a discount 😂🤣


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: altcoinrich on November 01, 2017, 04:52:15 AM
Walton coin is not a scam, it is trading actively on Binance.com, the price is high because the whales manipulate the price there. Fortunately the price was pumped to the moon and WTC is one of the best Chinese project.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Grimeta on November 02, 2017, 01:09:32 PM
http://tech.china.com/article/20170713/2017071340273.html

Look at the scam guys
So elaborate wow who are these masters of trickery

http://tech.china.com/article/20170703/2017070337823.html

wow such scam

http://tech.china.com/article/20170712/2017071239958.html

wow fake news

http://tech.china.com/article/20170629/2017062936839.html

wow i bet they took this on the same day as all the other ones op you're right they just took a bus trip to all the locations and then used an insider to fool china.com into thinking they're legit holy fk wow you might be onto something wow

These stories are not on www.china.com
I understand how fake news works. You are making it look like china.com but it isn't.



Excuse me sir, but are you a fucking idiot? You've lost all credibility in my eyes just for this.
tech.china.com and china.com is the SAME domain. Do you even know how domains work? What do you know about internet at all, other than registering on Facebook and Forums and spreading your SHIT mind of -30IQ ? tech is just a sub-domain. A sub-name/domain for tech news. FUDding moron. go f urself.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Bitcoin2theEnd on November 06, 2017, 07:53:41 AM
I now know not to listen to Keihatsu in the future. Got that one completely wrong. Can only imagine he/she was trying to create panic to buy in cheap. So much fud.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: gmrfrost on November 08, 2017, 12:52:41 AM
http://www.waltonchain.org/notice-detail?id=000000005f6de19c015f827b9a510001

·  RFID + Blockchain Off-Chain Demo: November
·  Beta/Public Testing: Early December

I guess we will know for sure soon enough. So far so good, I just bought 223 WTC. A small fall will come and then a huge ramp upward


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: RikkiTikkiWTC on December 10, 2017, 02:58:00 AM
Can we please get this taken down?  It's been months and I'm tired of seeing it in the google results when you google Waltonchain.  It's all ignorant and old information, and really needs to be removed from this forum.

"There is no reliable record of the team i.e. linking them and their experience to the project.
Try and find evidence linking the supposed former VP of Samsung to Samsung and the project."

https://www.reddit.com/r/waltonchain/comments/6yqpd4/the_dream_team/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/waltonchain/comments/6yqpd4/the_dream_team/)
https://www.reddit.com/r/waltonchain/comments/74nkmp/meet_the_team_1_xu_fangcheng/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/waltonchain/comments/74nkmp/meet_the_team_1_xu_fangcheng/)
https://www.reddit.com/r/waltonchain/comments/75fhkd/meet_the_team_2_office_in_south_korea/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/waltonchain/comments/75fhkd/meet_the_team_2_office_in_south_korea/)
https://www.reddit.com/r/waltonchain/comments/75puw3/meet_the_team_3_wei_songjie/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/waltonchain/comments/75puw3/meet_the_team_3_wei_songjie/)
https://www.reddit.com/r/waltonchain/comments/76cmec/meet_the_team_4_suk_ki_kim/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/waltonchain/comments/76cmec/meet_the_team_4_suk_ki_kim/)
https://www.reddit.com/r/waltonchain/comments/775e5v/meet_the_team_5_lin_herui/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/waltonchain/comments/775e5v/meet_the_team_5_lin_herui/)
https://www.reddit.com/r/waltonchain/comments/78ead4/meet_the_team_6_bing_mok_ceo_of_waltonchain/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/waltonchain/comments/78ead4/meet_the_team_6_bing_mok_ceo_of_waltonchain/)

"Listed on only one exchange, with a relatively small number of tokens (compared to similar projects) the price looks like it is being manipulated."

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/walton/#markets (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/walton/#markets) - On Multiple exchanges

"They are pretending to win a competition that does not exist. The "Jinjiang Competition" - there is no reliable source for this whatsoever. This is an unverified/fake news http://www.kinews.net/news/articleView.html?idxno=110897 (http://www.kinews.net/news/articleView.html?idxno=110897)"

https://twitter.com/Waltonchain/status/934250840679788544 (https://twitter.com/Waltonchain/status/934250840679788544) - One of the grants they were awarded
https://www.reddit.com/r/waltonchain/comments/74c519/here_is_more_confirmation_of_waltonchains/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/waltonchain/comments/74c519/here_is_more_confirmation_of_waltonchains/) - Many confirmations of the contest they were in and won.

"The website is poorly developed. If these people are serious/investable why can't they design a website or t-shirts. And it's called Walton coin. Serious business people would be much, much slicker than this. "

https://www.waltonchain.org (https://www.waltonchain.org) - Website is not poorly designed.


This is all of the research for each of the things mentioned. This is one of the troll posts for Waltonchain that matters the most because it's visible when searching Waltonchain on Google, and we would really appreciate it being taken down if possible. Thank you for your time.


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Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on December 10, 2017, 11:11:39 AM
Why is it always a 'newbie'!

Walton Chain (WTC) is an elaborate scam and everyone is going to get shafted.

Where is the code/evidence of progress?
A video of people messing around with RFID and a screen allegedly showing the program <, not evidence, not proof.

Why have people been asked to lock up tokens on MyEtherwallet, what exactly is a Guardian node, how does this related to the change over to Walton's own chain, how can the chain be tested if everyone tokens are locked up, no evidence of a hard wallet, why is there a wallet with 5million tokens that is not the team or an exchange, why is there always pressure on people to buy more tokens, why so many paid shills and newbies?

This project stinks. And people have been warned.



Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on December 11, 2017, 12:55:44 PM
Quote

I'm pretty sure OP doesn't actually believe his nonsense. Perhaps he just enjoys messing with people and clowning around. Well, he's helped me get good info. :)

He's clearly a poor researcher:

I'm a fan of Zcoin. Much better privacy that Monero and a good, innovative road map.
Very undervalued.

2 October 2017:
Walton WTC $7.82
ZCoin XZC $12.17

11 December 2017 (today):
Walton WTC $7.42
ZCoin XZC $46.07

So I'd say that I'm a pretty good researcher.

And, I also hold Monero, which is doing nicely too.

Not sure if Peter1984 is still around, probably another WTC shill account.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: solarjake on December 16, 2017, 12:01:44 AM
Quote
Why is it always a 'newbie'!

Walton Chain (WTC) is an elaborate scam and everyone is going to get shafted.

Where is the code/evidence of progress?
A video of people messing around with RFID and a screen allegedly showing the program <, not evidence, not proof.

Why have people been asked to lock up tokens on MyEtherwallet, what exactly is a Guardian node, how does this related to the change over to Walton's own chain, how can the chain be tested if everyone tokens are locked up, no evidence of a hard wallet, why is there a wallet with 5million tokens that is not the team or an exchange, why is there always pressure on people to buy more tokens, why so many paid shills and newbies?

This project stinks. And people have been warned.

The way you desperately cling onto your theory in the face of overwhelming evidence is very impressive. It's like taking a Creationist to the Natural History Museum. I can't tell if it's your ego that won't allow you to let go of it or if it's just plain stupidity. Either way, I commend you on your diligence.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Gogochen on December 16, 2017, 02:54:13 AM
The WTC project really needs to be noted, and it is likely to be a scam. I have heard a lot of bad news about them in China.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Ereun on December 16, 2017, 03:44:01 AM
Not having Slack is a good thing though, too many fake accounts phishing for ether wallets on there.


It is true, Many ICO are deliberately closing the slack channel because of too much pishing
Obviously this is detrimental to the team and their ICO urgency.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on December 16, 2017, 11:35:31 AM
I'd be exceptionally surprised if this project is legit, it stinks. And unfortunately, many people have been sucked in.

I'm sure that history will prove me right.

The team do not engage, only newbie thugs and shills engage, they appear to have no following in China, no tangible proof of legitimacy - just "here is a video of the team, office and product".

Besides that, even if it were legit, the fundamental flaw with the product is that RFID tech will not power the IoT. It has many shortcomings, including price.

I suspect deadlines will be missed, the code will not be forthcoming (or copy and paste), only the hand-picked shills will get to "test" the product, and, as with projects like ChainLink, the operation/updates will disappear overnight.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: zantezu on December 17, 2017, 12:29:52 AM
Too many newbie accounts replying to this post, it does stink like scam from far away ! Thanks for the info !



Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Hopeful2017 on December 17, 2017, 12:35:09 AM
Without any shadow of a doubt, WTC is a scam.

Get out while you can!

There is no reliable record of the team i.e. linking them and their experience to the project.
Try and find evidence linking the supposed former VP of Samsung to Samsung and the project.

This forum and Reddit is full of very blatant WTC shills. The comments on Reddit are beyond belief.

Listed on only one exchange, with a relatively small number of tokens (compared to similar projects) the price looks like it is being manipulated.

They are pretending to win a competition that does not exist. The "Jinjiang Competition" - there is no reliable source for this whatsoever. This is an unverified/fake news http://www.kinews.net/news/articleView.html?idxno=110897
Seriously, they have just won a major competition - logos stuck on t-shirts, with a dodgy banner outside a sports centre. I've been to plenty of award ceremonies and competition results, this is a joke.

The website is poorly developed. If these people are serious/investable why can't they design a website or t-shirts. And it's called Walton coin. Serious business people would be much, much slicker than this.

I suspect a lot of effort has gone into making this appear credible but it isn't. Some people have seen big returns this week and are talking about market cap increase to $1billion+ and are dismissing my point of view with comments like "ah, well, things are lost in translation. they all have similar names and everyone is VP at Samsung. Western news would not cover the competition" etc.

You have been warned!

My only interest is for good people not to lose money.

For the record, my investments are: Waves, Wagerr, Zcoin, District0X, ARK and Monero.

I have no conflicts of interest and nothing to gain from this post.
Thanks for this good information. Thanks because their are still people like you here who's concern for not losing money to investors or traders of altcoins. I have to be careful and have to read more like this one.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: solarjake on December 17, 2017, 12:41:00 PM
Ah man you guys are too funny.

Respect for being cautious with your investments though.

It will be interesting what we all have to say in a years time won't it :)

Sincerely, a Walton Shill


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: krumbs on December 19, 2017, 12:06:54 PM
When you goolge Waltonchain this thread comes up as one of the more visible search results.  Clearly this is bad for business and it’s no surprise that people are creating first time accounts so they can have their say.  It may come as a surprise to some but a large part of the crypto community do not have bitcointalk.org accounts.  I think the OP needs to use facts to dispel people’s claims of legitimacy rather than the flaccid argument of ‘newbie’ accounts.

Disclaimer:  I am invested in Waltonchain

Threads like this are valuable and I’d encourage anyone expressing concerns about a project to post them.  I have been scammed in the past and know that many of us have experienced the same gut wrenching feeling of, ”Why didn’t I listen”, as you watch your hopes and dreams evaporate.  These threads should be a platform for healthy discussion and debate but that is not what’s happening here because, even in the face of overwhelming evidence, the OP continues to cling onto the absurdity that Waltonchain is a scam.

I won’t be posting links to support my argument that Waltonchain is legitimate because the onus is not on me to disprove the scam allegations, nor is it on a genuine company simply getting on with their business. The onus is on the OP to support his claims with evidence.  By creating fictitious motives, pointing the finger at ‘newbie’ accounts and using deflection when confronted with irrefutable evidence supporting the legitimacy of Waltonchain the OP demonstrates the extent to which his case has been overwhelmingly quashed.

It’s long overdue this thread be put to rest.  The OP has a responsibility to allow the truth to shine and I suggest he embraces it before any more damage is done to his reputation.  

Please remove this thread from the forum KEIHATSU.

 :)


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: solarjake on December 21, 2017, 02:15:26 PM
Quote
When you goolge Waltonchain this thread comes up as one of the more visible search results.  Clearly this is bad for business and it’s no surprise that people are creating first time accounts so they can have their say.  It may come as a surprise to some but a large part of the crypto community do not have bitcointalk.org accounts.  I think the OP needs to use facts to dispel people’s claims of legitimacy rather than the flaccid argument of ‘newbie’ accounts.

Disclaimer:  I am invested in Waltonchain

Threads like this are valuable and I’d encourage anyone expressing concerns about a project to post them.  I have been scammed in the past and know that many of us have experienced the same gut wrenching feeling of, ”Why didn’t I listen”, as you watch your hopes and dreams evaporate.  These threads should be a platform for healthy discussion and debate but that is not what’s happening here because, even in the face of overwhelming evidence, the OP continues to cling onto the absurdity that Waltonchain is a scam.

I won’t be posting links to support my argument that Waltonchain is legitimate because the onus is not on me to disprove the scam allegations, nor is it on a genuine company simply getting on with their business. The onus is on the OP to support his claims with evidence.  By creating fictitious motives, pointing the finger at ‘newbie’ accounts and using deflection when confronted with irrefutable evidence supporting the legitimacy of Waltonchain the OP demonstrates the extent to which his case has been overwhelmingly quashed.

It’s long overdue this thread be put to rest.  The OP has a responsibility to allow the truth to shine and I suggest he embraces it before any more damage is done to his reputation. 

Please remove this thread from the forum KEIHATSU.

Nah I say leave it up, just as a kind of cursory reminder of the stupidity of man. Plus I want to see the mental gymnastics in a few weeks time when Walton releases its blockchain.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on December 21, 2017, 10:17:19 PM
Hello more newbies,

No, let's keep this thread so everyone can laugh at me when you become the next Microsoft or Apple.

LMAO.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: kralnewb on December 21, 2017, 10:43:45 PM
I've looked the price of it on coinmarketcap and the price is $16.53 compared to the price were you first posted this thread and it is rising. How come that more people are still buying this?


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Elemenohpaynee on December 23, 2017, 01:23:10 AM
I've looked the price of it on coinmarketcap and the price is $16.53 compared to the price were you first posted this thread and it is rising. How come that more people are still buying this?

Because the guy who started this thread is full of sh*t.

He has absolutely no idea what he is even fighting anymore.

The team is legit, WTC is legit and it would hurt his rep to back away from his original statements now so he keeps pushing this narrative of " WTC is a scam"

FYI im not invested in WTC, but i have done my research on the project and team, and its legit and very, very undervalued.

AKAIK they are miles ahead of Vechain and WaBi in terms of roadmap progress.

All the partnerships i have verified from sources that are much more reputable then some random guy on a Bitcoin forum, and WTC is closer to working with the government then NEO ever has been.

Which was NEOs main selling point as a platform being the "Chinese Ethereum"

Again i'm not invested in either WTC or NEO.

I will wait for the Blockchain to go live before i pull the trigger on investing.

And to finish i am almost certain this thread has been started by a serious FUD'er who has invested interests in another similar, weaker project



Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Starla on December 23, 2017, 01:28:29 AM
very in pity now many scams. yesterday I participated in the project but can not get paid, it feels disappointed


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: pabs2 on December 23, 2017, 04:55:07 AM
TL,DR   Not a scam


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: sarfwr on December 23, 2017, 06:08:08 AM
Not because prices continue to rise means that it is not a scam, the WTC the tokens in September, my friend told me that you be careful, don't touch the tokens, it may be a scam, so I won't buy the WTC.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: denny92w on December 23, 2017, 09:45:31 AM
WTC is NOT scam! We should remove this thread


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Antivoid on December 23, 2017, 09:55:23 AM
i think Binace will make a careful investegation when choosing to list WTC, i prefer to believe in Binance but you


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on December 23, 2017, 11:40:07 AM
Thank you for all your comments newbies.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: solarjake on December 24, 2017, 01:43:32 AM
I think he deserves an A for effort at least.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: crevbi on December 24, 2017, 06:44:25 AM
The Interview with Waltonchain CEO Dr. Mo Bing by Coinnest CEO Mr. Kim Ik Hwan Winded up with Great Success

On December 21, Coinnest CEO Mr. Kim Ik Hwan interviewed Waltonchain CEO Dr. Mo Bing on Afreeca Live Broadcasting Platform.

During the interview, Mr. Kim Ik Hwan expressed great interest in the project and invited Dr. Mo Bing to elaborate on his personal background, technical strength, R&D achievements, application status, long-term goals, and development plans of Waltonchain. The interview also provided an ideal communication channel to our supporters who have missed the chance in participating in an earlier presentation. Attendees were encouraged to ask questions for our live Q&A session.

Speaking in regards to development goals, Dr. Mo Bing commented on Waltonchain’s core competencies and stated that “based on RFID and blockchain technology, Waltoncoin(WTC) will by all means become one of the four biggest global cryptocurrencies”. His words sparked excitement among the online participants.

Mr. Kim Ik Hwan said: “Waltonchian, as the first to combine RFID chip and blockchain technology seamlessly, is a remarkable pioneer in the industry! The information from their chips can be uploaded to a system through the blockchain; this technology can be applied to all areas of social life and will realize a depth of coverage on new commercial ecosystems. I have my faith in the Waltonchain project and I believe it is worth your faith too!”

Mr. Kim Ik Hwan finished up the interview by answering questions from the live broadcast participants. Due to the meeting coming to a close many audience members did not have a chance to have their questions answered. We are hoping these community members attend our next meeting in an attempt to gain further understanding of the revolutionary Waltonchain project.

We are ever grateful for having such a caring and supportive global community that see our vision of the revolution that IoT and Blockchain will bring.

We will continue to move forward, no matter what it takes, to construct the perfect commercial ecosystem.

https://medium.com/@Waltonchain_EN/the-interview-with-waltonchain-ceo-dr-4fe19d165243


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: NEZ1123 on December 24, 2017, 07:44:22 AM
At this point with the developments they've been making I don't think its a scam.. either way I really wish I bought more when it was 1 dollar.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: pakupayung on December 24, 2017, 08:29:00 AM
Thanks for information.But it seems very confident with your statement that declare wtc is a scam until you look for things that are so detailed to support this statement.
Are you sure there is no specific purpose behind your OP?
Because your statement could have dropped for wtc, even though the truth is like what.
If all this is true you are very good at judging something scam.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: solarjake on December 24, 2017, 04:58:02 PM
https://imgur.com/a/t0qas

Such high quality CGI they have.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: krumbs on December 24, 2017, 11:26:33 PM
Beta testing started today.  I have tested the webwallet, the main wallet which is also the miner, and the blockchain explorer.  I have sent and received test tokens and have confirmed transactions on the block explorer.  I have successfully mined tokens and have been interacting with members of the extrememly active community.


This thread is the laughing stock of this entire forum and the OP has now proved himself to be nothing but a troll.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: wayaneka on December 25, 2017, 01:40:53 AM
I have been watching some video review about Walton Chain project in youtube, and my opinion this is serious project and they has working product already. This project will be big and the price of the token also increasing alot.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: NaissuR on December 25, 2017, 01:44:37 AM
i didnt buy WTC because of this thread, when it was 0.8 few months ago.. :X


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: djangocoin on December 25, 2017, 01:44:44 AM
I don't think that is enough to declare it a scam.. i think you need something a bit more substantial than that


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Dluretic on December 25, 2017, 03:59:00 AM
I don't think that is enough to declare it a scam.. i think you need something a bit more substantial than that
Yes, I also feel that the present evidence does not call it a liar. It can only be said that it requires careful observation, which may not be a reliable project.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: wayne_812 on December 25, 2017, 04:44:01 AM
onecoin is also a scam. pay attention!


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Jason7799 on December 25, 2017, 05:56:33 PM
i also dont think this coin is a scam. From their website and what the company has been doing, it seems they are at least engaging with the pubic (there was a presentation in seoul on 19 dec), and moving forward with their project ("The time has come for the official parent chain system Beta testing and the full-node wallet open testing" posted on their website 24 dec). It doesnt make sense that a company would go to this much length if it wasnt actually trying to do something. Whether or not they can deliver on what it is they are trying to do, is another thing. I personally believe the whole area of assuring authenticity of goods through the entire supply chain is something significant.

 -10/10 for making me sign up and reply


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Bitcoin2theEnd on December 25, 2017, 10:10:44 PM
Clearly Waltonchain is NOT a scam. The person who started this thread spelt Waltonchain with two words, he has no idea what he is talking about.

Moderators should remove this thread


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Goya82 on December 26, 2017, 03:49:22 AM
This post is absolute BS. I'm sure the author of this is fully aware by this time that WTC is a both a legitimate and highly celebrated project by both the community of blockchain supporters and the Chinese govt. I think the author should either remove this post or address their position with any facts that can be substantiated.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: toolsmans on December 26, 2017, 04:44:51 AM
Hmm ... thanks for the information. We will take into account when choosing coins


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: btcdee on December 27, 2017, 08:52:57 PM
I'd be exceptionally surprised if this project is legit, it stinks. And unfortunately, many people have been sucked in.

I'm sure that history will prove me right.

The team do not engage, only newbie thugs and shills engage, they appear to have no following in China, no tangible proof of legitimacy - just "here is a video of the team, office and product".

Besides that, even if it were legit, the fundamental flaw with the product is that RFID tech will not power the IoT. It has many shortcomings, including price.

I suspect deadlines will be missed, the code will not be forthcoming (or copy and paste), only the hand-picked shills will get to "test" the product, and, as with projects like ChainLink, the operation/updates will disappear overnight.

Wow, this thread is still going. I have to admit that you planted some seeds of doubt back then but I haven't been following the project since.
Did you have a chance to look into other supply chain projects somewhat similar to Walton Chain? Whats your take on Modum, Wabi, VeChain and Amber to name a few?
thanks!


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: derekok on December 29, 2017, 08:25:28 PM
I doubt these cowboys will be able to keep the pretence up for much longer.

LOL

Soooooo,

3 months, yes 3 MONTHS down the line and here we are.

Last time I checked they had Official Government partnerships in China, github wallet, confirmed patents, expert senior professor designing chip, boxmining on-site visit.

But you still cry 'Ohhhh what a scam! What a SCAM! Run ladies for your lives!'

Any evidence James?

Any.....evidence?

btw I'm not invested is WTC just interested to know why you continue to lie about them. Something smells very fishy about you now.

:)


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on December 30, 2017, 01:24:37 PM
I have said all I need to say about this project.

I have expressed my opinion. People can decide for themselves. Too many red flags, inconsistencies and newbies for me. And even if the project isn't a scam, I think it is a really bad idea with poor execution.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: derekok on January 01, 2018, 11:03:30 PM
You make me laugh. I thought you were informed and above all emotionally detached from the coins but it seems you are just a butt-hurt little child.

So some months ago you got banned from the WTC Slack for acting like a dick and have been running this sad little vendetta ever since. What happened to following your own advice James? 'Don't get emotionally attached to a coin' LOL Your little ego took a knock and it's turned you into a stalker! Do you get out much?!

I can tell from your reply you were butt-hurt again from me exposing you as a BAD caller. Actually not just a bad caller, more a completely hopeless analyser of a white paper and whole swathes of other evidence showing Waltonchain was legit months and months ago.

So you didn't answer the question did you Jamie boy? Do you have any EVIDENCE?
I'll answer that for you - no, you didn't 3 months ago and you don't now.

Now the LATEST UPDATE is you're not even sure it's a scam anymore!! You now say (due to overwhelming evidence) they ARE legit but think it's a 'bad idea'.

LOOOOL

'Bad idea'. I mean, what an analysis, what an incredibly perspicacious breakdown - such logic!

I'll keep this simple as it's evidently what you'll understand: the Chinese Government don't think this is a bad idea.

 :D









Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: krumbs on January 01, 2018, 11:23:08 PM
I have said all I need to say about this project.

I have expressed my opinion. People can decide for themselves. Too many red flags, inconsistencies and newbies for me. And even if the project isn't a scam, I think it is a really bad idea with poor execution.

This is, quite frankly, embarassing.  Just man the f**k up and admit your were wrong James and explain to all the nice people out there why you have a vendetta against Waltonchain.  

You have been investigated James and are no longer anonymous.  Do the right thing or you and your antics will be exposed.  This community needs to take a stand against dishonest and manipulative individuals like yourself.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on January 02, 2018, 08:56:47 AM
In private messages, you newbies claim to be part of the "western" division of Waltonchain.

I have 20+ messages from people who appear to speak on behalf of Waltonchain. Each message comes with a warning "this person is new and it may be a SCAM". Around half the messages are threatening.

Is this how a legitimate enterprise behaves?

To me, it is strange that a Korean / Chinese team is targetting the Western market but has nobody to engage on these platforms in an official capacity - a community manager or spokesperson.

The best way to prove me wrong is to deliver the project and behave professionally. There is a thread on this forum which claims that Ethereum is a scam. I doubt many people believe that now. The crypto community is democratic and advocates free speech. People should be entitled to their opinion. Everyone has free will and can decide for themselves.

When people who claim to be associated with WTC behave badly, overreact and attempt to make things personal - it only makes me more suspicious of the project.







Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: derekok on January 02, 2018, 03:51:30 PM
OKaaay.....so that message you see is a standard BCT warning that everyone gets applied to them so don't try to make that legitimise your untruths. Utterly ludicrous! Is that the best you have on Waltoncoin?!! Wow.

Now yes, let's talk about behaving shall we. How about the pm you sent to a WTC investor where you said 'I'm enjoying watching your market cap nose-dive'. I'm mean WTF does that tell us except you are a manipulative liar carrying out a vendetta. And you call on freedom of speech rights to justify that! You are seriously warped.

So 'freedom of speech' allows you to post any made up shit, damage a business, and manipulate the market cap of a coin by spreading outright lies? Is that what civil liberties were fought for? No, and that behaviour is actually illegal, defamation is not a freedom. 

Nobody who has pm'ed you speaks for Waltonchain (another lie): you actually admit yourself they have nobody on BCT in an official capacity!! Contradict yourself much?!? The pm's are from investors who don't like seeing lies spread about a legitimate business. Is that so unbelievable to you? Are you dim?! No, you are just manipulating the situation to meet your own ends of badmouthing a community who saw you for what you are and banned your ass. lol

Walton have no official reps on here because the place is a crypto-joke and full of people like you spreading lies and hype. You think an official account on here adds credibility to a business startup? Jesus.

You are a sham and this thread is a preposterous lie.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: krumbs on January 03, 2018, 01:50:46 AM
In private messages, you newbies claim to be part of the "western" division of Waltonchain.


I have never contacted you by private message.  You are so full of lies, deceipt and disinformation.



Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: limefatcat on January 03, 2018, 05:09:19 AM
Wow..can't believe this thread is still going.
The funny thing is WTC was almost double the price in SATs than it is now when this post first appeared :-\


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: krazy89 on January 03, 2018, 05:34:46 AM
Keep this topic up pls , let noobs dump WTC to the ground , so it can reach my buy orders  ;D
Fucking dumb


Title: Re: [WARMING] Walton Chain (WTC) IS DEFINITELY CAN!
Post by: nyc3650 on January 03, 2018, 02:57:49 PM
THE FIRST TITLE IS THE MOST FUNNIEST DINGDONG I EVER READ IN 2017


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Hopeman1 on January 03, 2018, 03:06:21 PM
Has a friend told me not to contact the WTC before the tokens, the WTC than it might have a lot of problems, so I don't plan to invest in the tokens, although don't know if it is a scam.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: RikkiTikkiWTC on January 03, 2018, 04:09:03 PM
As a community manager, I have reached out to you VERY nicely and ask that this please be taken down. Of course my account had the "newbie" message on it, because I don't visit these forums. I am only here to speak with you, Keihatsu. I have asked you nicely to please take this down because it is pointless to continue to have this up. You even went as far as to block me so I can't PM you anymore, so now I'm gonna bring the conversation public.

This really has gone far enough. You have even said that this might not be a scam at this point.  Just, for the love of GOD, take this post down.  It's sad that you have posted this in multiple locations at this point.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: derekok on January 03, 2018, 04:55:01 PM
James Barrow, isn't it about time you stopped your manipulation of the Waltonchain stock?




https://www.google.co.uk/search?rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBGB752GB752&biw=1536&bih=875&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=kgxNWtTSC4KEgAbqrpvYCg&q=jrbarrow+thebitcoinpub&oq=jrbarrow+thebitcoinpub&gs_l=psy-ab.3...2621.6994.0.7976.14.14.0.0.0.0.132.1320.9j5.14.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.UaDGLb-IW0I#imgrc=wup9yLc8vV-0QM:






Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: MoneyBoiMoon on January 03, 2018, 04:56:23 PM
wow is WTC really a scam? I'll just buy VEN instead. Damn I liked WTC also.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: derekok on January 03, 2018, 05:08:29 PM
wow is WTC really a scam? I'll just buy VEN instead. Damn I liked WTC also.

No it isn't a scam, can't you read?!?

We are just exposing the OP as a serial liar, coin shill and manipulator of coin price. Please keep up. He was banned from their forum and became a stalker.


Waltonchain is as legit as your grandmother.
(and will out-perform VEN in 2018 by a long long margin)


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: derekok on January 03, 2018, 05:17:11 PM
I'm not sure if you see a future for yourself in the Party James but this stock-manipulation episode could prove very embarrassing for you should you find yourself in that line of work again. What are your plans for 2022?


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: cryptocommoner on January 03, 2018, 05:25:41 PM
I'm not sure if you see a future for yourself in the Party James but this stock-manipulation episode could prove very embarrassing for you should you find yourself in that line of work again. What are your plans for 2022?

I actually read every single page of this thread.  I see what you mean in that he doesn't have anything to back up his claims.  I would actually like to find out how to become a beta tester for WTC.  I will shift a portion of my portfolio to WTC in spite of this thread.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: scoobidoobydu on January 03, 2018, 05:27:40 PM
I had a good feeling with this coin before. Thanks for the head up. I will do a careful reading.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: derekok on January 03, 2018, 05:32:24 PM
Peakfast, oh deary me, very, very dodgy. I see where you get it from. Andy seems a very nice chap.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: harveydent000 on January 04, 2018, 01:07:21 PM
People really think this is a scam? Wow...Well i can understand that some people thought that in september because there was somewhere to zero information about everything but now?! Come on, do yourself a favor and research...  ::)


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: denny92w on January 06, 2018, 07:08:59 AM
Waltonchain is partnered with Fuyao Glass Industry Group Co. Ltd, the world's largest automotive glass supplier

https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7offvl/waltonchain_is_partnered_with_fuyao_glass/?utm_source=reddit-android

https://www.reddit.com/r/waltonchain/comments/7o7lue/waltonchain_allinone_thread/?utm_source=reddit-android


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: CoinFacker on January 08, 2018, 12:30:02 AM
Who got a masternode and is running it?
What are the revenue's per day/month/year?

Can I still get a masternode now if I buy 5000 wtc?


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: natasha-lev on January 08, 2018, 12:36:23 AM
Without any shadow of a doubt, WTC is a scam.

Get out while you can!

There is no reliable record of the team i.e. linking them and their experience to the project.
Try and find evidence linking the supposed former VP of Samsung to Samsung and the project.

This forum and Reddit is full of very blatant WTC shills. The comments on Reddit are beyond belief.

Listed on only one exchange, with a relatively small number of tokens (compared to similar projects) the price looks like it is being manipulated.

They are pretending to win a competition that does not exist. The "Jinjiang Competition" - there is no reliable source for this whatsoever. This is an unverified/fake news http://www.kinews.net/news/articleView.html?idxno=110897
Seriously, they have just won a major competition - logos stuck on t-shirts, with a dodgy banner outside a sports centre. I've been to plenty of award ceremonies and competition results, this is a joke.

The website is poorly developed. If these people are serious/investable why can't they design a website or t-shirts. And it's called Walton coin. Serious business people would be much, much slicker than this.

I suspect a lot of effort has gone into making this appear credible but it isn't. Some people have seen big returns this week and are talking about market cap increase to $1billion+ and are dismissing my point of view with comments like "ah, well, things are lost in translation. they all have similar names and everyone is VP at Samsung. Western news would not cover the competition" etc.

You have been warned!

My only interest is for good people not to lose money.

For the record, my investments are: Waves, Wagerr, Zcoin, District0X, ARK and Monero.

I have no conflicts of interest and nothing to gain from this post.


Not a big fan of WTC, but your post is a LOL. Did you see that they have a former samsung CEO? This project exploded several times already and was reviewed with honorable people.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: derekok on January 08, 2018, 11:25:21 PM
Who got a masternode and is running it?
What are the revenue's per day/month/year?

Can I still get a masternode now if I buy 5000 wtc?



Hi, hope this isn't too late for you, price is moving.

YES, 5k will always qualify for a masternode and you can buy anytime into the future.

The main-net has not yet been released - not due till Q1. Only test coins are being mined right now in a superb fully-functioning 1-click miner with regular updates. Check git-hub

In the mean time Waltonchain have decided to do an air-drop for all node holders. Expected to be around 80+wtc

The first mining will be CPU-based. This is because THREE significant contracts have been established to implement WC child-chains for major customers. So these have been prioritized and GPU mining put back by a month or 2 while work on the child-chains is turbo-charged. They are employing 2 new programmers per week.

So 1st mining on mainnet within next 2 months or so - CPU
A few months later - GPU
Ultimately ASIC mining.

If you want a node, now is the time, once the Koreans get their deposits back on their exchanges this part-Korean project will continue it's strong upwards momentum. Revenues will be huge this coin is going way over 10x from here.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: ClicheGuevara on January 12, 2018, 09:30:34 PM
I hate this.  Google WTC and this post is the first thing that pops up. >:(
WTC is tried and true.  Can we get this post deleted already?


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: waarishi on January 12, 2018, 09:47:31 PM
agree. delete this topic. it hurts the coin for no reason


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: denny92w on January 13, 2018, 07:06:19 AM
Waltonchain and the China Mobile IoT Alliance — Connecting the Dots with Crypto’s Biggest Announcement of 2018
You are already directly connected to this project.

Whatever phone you use, wherever you are in the world, you’re connected to this announcement. It’s an initiative so large that it transcends the entire crypto market cap. This is bigger than Google. Bigger than Microsoft. Bigger than Citibank. Bigger than American Airlines.

https://medium.com/@thelatemercutio/waltonchain-and-the-china-mobile-iot-alliance-connecting-the-dots-with-cryptos-biggest-4a986cccc00b (https://medium.com/@thelatemercutio/waltonchain-and-the-china-mobile-iot-alliance-connecting-the-dots-with-cryptos-biggest-4a986cccc00b)


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: dankJ on January 13, 2018, 05:02:16 PM
Scam or not, their move from 1 to 2 yesterday made me an incredibly nice % gain  ;)

i will say...from 1 minute spent scanning their website...their description of what they do is awfully vague. 


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: derekok on January 13, 2018, 11:22:51 PM
from 1 minute spent scanning their website

Your research amounts to a minute scanning a website?? How do you expect to understand a project without reading the whitepaper?

Waltonchain is as legit as Samsung - their latest signing is a deep partnership deal with the State mobile network 'China Mobile' which has 800,000,000 (800M) users.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Mark537 on January 14, 2018, 02:23:20 PM
A scam has a partnership with China mobile? Lol OK buddy


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: dankJ on January 14, 2018, 05:26:46 PM
from 1 minute spent scanning their website

Your research amounts to a minute scanning a website?? How do you expect to understand a project without reading the whitepaper?

Waltonchain is as legit as Samsung - their latest signing is a deep partnership deal with the State mobile network 'China Mobile' which has 800,000,000 (800M) users.

i dont expect to.  i dont care to.  nor was i pretending to expect it.  Hence the preface of my 1 minute of research.  which amounts to about 1 minute worth of information...  wasnt commenting on the validity of the company one way or the other...  was more so just commenting from the technical side of this on its move from 1 to 2


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: jdbao on January 15, 2018, 02:36:47 AM
After I saw this post for the first time, I was far away from WTC.
But when I saw this post today and looked back to see the price of WTC, I was scared.
Anyway, now the market is full of all kinds of information, just think about it before you action.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Mankov on January 15, 2018, 02:44:19 AM
Those assholes who declares legit coins as scam should be thrown in jail for 500 years!!!

Admins should remove such threads, because many users read only the headline of a thread, and then they go away. It really affects the price of a coin.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: xPPx on January 15, 2018, 07:17:35 AM
Thanks for the heads up. I dunno if they are a scam or not, but I will go over everything again, and the white paper thrice before investing...


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: ertor2 on January 21, 2018, 06:16:47 AM
I don't get how this post is still not DELETED?

Reasearch news, announcements and follow up on anything you are investing in before believing posts on any Forum.

At the end of the day it is your hard earned money that you are investing.

I've noticed some folks only invest on ALTs they read about on this or other forums with ZERO research of their own!?

Let's make this ALTs community stronger by all pitching in with our own research and contributing. Thanks to those who have done research and exposed this post as USELESS and possibly deliberately aimed at hurting WTC.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Nkan25 on January 21, 2018, 06:20:46 AM
http://www.chinamobileltd.com/en/global/home.php …; China Mobile is the largest mobile telecommunications corporation by market capitalization,[7] and also the world's largest mobile phone operator by total number of subscribers, with over 873 million subscribers as of August 2017.

This is the company that WTC has teamed up with. I do enjoy watching them and VEN battle it out.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: PrinceOfPersia711 on January 23, 2018, 03:38:20 AM
Pretty much every coin that has ever existed has been called a scam. DYOR!


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: bk2 on January 27, 2018, 05:20:25 PM
Due to the fact I just bought some coins by accident, I put Walton Coin into my shitcoin depot a few weeks ago (don't remember when).

But to my surprise, this coin goes up in a quite stable way since about two weeks. Let's see, if this performance continues.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: mobilazy on January 28, 2018, 04:38:47 AM
Damn you the topic starter. How many people you evade from buying this coin. It will be next NEO, and yet ur calling it spam! My suggestion is to buy at a next dip and hodl, then buy more. Strong product!


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: CryptosapienZA on January 28, 2018, 04:42:39 AM
It looks like every coin is a scam coin these days or are we just paranoid or we don't know what the word scam means anymore?


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: coin5haker on February 01, 2018, 04:42:59 PM
Just do your own research. Bounty hunter which didn't get awarded because not following rules or by bounty manager's mistake can make a very bitter FUD accusing a coin as a spam. I'm not talking about any particular man but situation in general. Reddit is full of FUD, same as bitcointalk. Read whitepaper, check a team and advisors. WTC is doing great, a lot of releases planned. I predict 100$ by the end of 2018.
Another good pick from China is Theta coin. So cheap right now, 1.8x of ICO price.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Seattle2k on March 01, 2018, 05:20:38 AM
Whoops, looks like they exposed themselves today on Twitter.


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: mel_smog on March 01, 2018, 05:50:07 AM
"Whoops, looks like they exposed themselves today on Twitter. "

thats why the price dropped 20% today?


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Jekwizor on March 19, 2018, 05:57:06 PM
Waltonchain’s First Child Chain Freyrchain Debuted at the 2018 TokenSky Blockchain Conference

Blockchain is an overturning application of innovative technology, which constantly opens new directions of human technology development.

On March 15, the 2018 TokenSky Blockchain Conference officially concluded at the Grand Hilton Hotel in Seoul, South Korea. The world’s top blockchain experts and scholars, upstream and downstream companies, investment institutions, technology geeks, media and token enthusiasts gathered here to discuss blockchain technology innovation and token industry changes.

Waltonchain attracted much attention at the conference with its child chain debut.

As an industry leader in implementation of the “Value Internet of Things”, Waltonchain relies on real-world demand for scientific and technological applications and innovatively combines the blockchain technology with RFID chips to change the global business ecosystem fundamentally.

Blockchain industry is moving forward very fast. Every structural change can qualitatively affect the development of the whole industry.

Waltonchain first proposed the “parent chain + child chain + application” core architecture using which companies from different industries can create various child chains and tailor them to their needs. This small step by Waltonchain has laid the foundation for cross-industry data chains, a giant leap for the whole industry.

Freyrchain, the first child chain of Waltonchain, is also known as the world’s first blockchain-based collectibles data authenticity platform. It has fully applied the advantages of the blockchain technology, integrated a massive amount of professional data resources, digitized and uploaded them to blockchain rapidly, thus building the first global blockchain + culture big data platform.

At the conference, as a pioneer of the blockchain + art collectibles industry, Freyrchain CMO Kelly Zheng was invited to present the project.

Having the world’s largest blockchain-based collectibles data platform, Freyrchain can offer inquiries on collectibles data, historical transaction records, description etc. and provides support in collectibles authenticity identification globally. The implementation of this technology has not only solved such innate problems of the art collection industry as artwork authentication and the lack of transaction transparency, but also provided a low-threshold entry to let the public join the art collection industry easily.

In the coming future, with the establishment of a commercial ecosystem including many areas such as smart agriculture, smart medical care and food traceability, Waltonchain will become the engine of the next-generation IoT, achieving the new commercial culture revolution of common creation, existence, benefit and sharing across all industries and leading to the next rise of humanity.

https://medium.com/@Waltonchain_EN/waltonchains-first-child-chain-freyrchain-debuted-at-the-2018-tokensky-blockchain-conference-666f5b3ae5c4


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: TOM47 on April 13, 2018, 09:42:31 AM
Waltonchain Provides Global Leading Blockchain + Cross-Border Logistics Solution

Waltonchain will Escort the Huodull “Pocket Insurance” Strategy

The logistics industry is an important entry point for the implementation of the Waltonchain. Waltonchain, as the leader in the blockchain IoT industry, planned the application of Waltonchain technology in the apparel and logistics industry at the beginning of the project launch. Based on this plan, Waltonchain carried out its application system R&D work.

Since the first demo application of the Waltonchain System was released in October 2017, we have been in contact with domestic and global logistics and apparel companies to select the right Waltonchain application partners.

On April 12th, Waltonchain’s technical arm, Silicon (Shenzhen) Electronic Technology Co., Ltd. signed a strategic cooperation agreement with the world leading cross-border logistics platform Huodull Technology. Huodull was the first in the industry to propose a free “Pocket Insurance” for its customers. Huodull firmly believes that as a leading company in the cross-border logistics industry, it should become a choice for customers with full trust and no worry. Waltonchain will escort the its “Pocket Insurance” strategy.

In this logistics solution, Huodull will install the reading-writing system in key logistics nodes such as the goods transportation in and out of warehouses and the reception of them. When the stuff passes through any of the nodes, it will be scanned by readers and the move-transformed data will be uploaded on the blockchain.

https://medium.com/@Waltonchain_EN/waltonchain-provides-global-leading-blockchain-cross-border-logistics-solution-7571ad04a2f2


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: MihailJ on July 02, 2018, 03:31:11 PM
Waltonchain Attended the First Global Blockchain Technology Achievements Forum 2018
On June 30, Waltonchain was invited to the First Global Blockchain Technology Achievements Forum 2018. The forum was hosted by China Society for the Promotion of Science & Technology Commercialization and China High-tech Industrialization Research Association and Blockchain Industry Alliance (CIABA), organized by Ant Node Alliance and supported by CyberVein as its general title sponsor. https://medium.com/@Waltonchain_EN/waltonchain-attended-the-first-global-blockchain-technology-achievements-forum-2018-b6d9945a760c


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: gewealiw on July 21, 2018, 11:49:28 PM
the value hurried to an ath of 8,70 USD and it is steady right now at around 7,50 USD, it is a mind blowing value execution and if this is a trick I just need to put resources into tricks for what's to come


Title: Re: [WARNING] Walton Chain (WTC) is a SCAM
Post by: Keihatsu on August 20, 2021, 09:23:16 PM
told you so!