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Title: Make it 100 posts to get out of here.
Post by: qed on June 25, 2011, 04:34:59 AM
Make it 100 posts are needed to get out of this area, not the time spent logged or whatever. The amount of spam is absurd.


Title: Re: Make it 100 posts to get out of here.
Post by: bmgjet on June 25, 2011, 04:37:15 AM
Thats going to take awhile since theres not really anything of value in this section so its hard to add to it.


Title: Re: Make it 100 posts to get out of here.
Post by: qed on June 25, 2011, 05:20:29 AM
The forum is becoming unusable, something must be done.


Title: Re: Make it 100 posts to get out of here.
Post by: x0Jakeyboy0x on June 25, 2011, 05:25:14 AM
Raising it to 100 post would be absurd and create more spam for the newbies who have to get out. The key is to have more moderators who are more active in sorting out crap.


Title: Re: Make it 100 posts to get out of here.
Post by: bmgjet on June 25, 2011, 05:31:08 AM
Its been hard enough to get the amount of posts I have now with out just making spam posts that don't contribute anything.
Eventually ill get board and leave this forum and im sure a lot of other valid members will do so as well.

Maybe a better way to get rid of unwated users would be a knowledge test or proof in some other way.


Title: Re: Make it 100 posts to get out of here.
Post by: GamblingPurveyor on June 25, 2011, 06:13:56 AM
Make it 100 posts are needed to get out of this area, not the time spent logged or whatever. The amount of spam is absurd.

Make it 300 posts. That way you're stuck in here, too.


Title: Re: Make it 100 posts to get out of here.
Post by: Michiko on June 25, 2011, 09:02:33 AM
Would it be hard to establish an alternative channel to prove I'm neither bot nor spammer? I'd really prefer to solve 10 captcha or similar and wait exactly a board prescribed random time (~30sec) in between providing input. A combination of a minimum waiting time and some proof of human, time-consuming work should deter posters the board doesn't want? Hopefully nobody will judge me by my 5 useless initial posts. All I wanted is to ask more question on a couple of interesting threads before thy die down...


Title: Re: Make it 100 posts to get out of here.
Post by: SgtSpike on June 25, 2011, 09:04:06 AM
Make it 1000.

Then like 25 people have the whole rest of the boards to themselves.


Title: Re: Make it 100 posts to get out of here.
Post by: GamblingPurveyor on June 25, 2011, 09:10:25 AM
I think that would create a market for a forum-posting bot.


Title: Re: Make it 100 posts to get out of here.
Post by: Manko on June 25, 2011, 09:23:42 AM
I don't actually know what the criteria for being able to move out of this area is, but it should not be based on quantity of posts.

Quality is what is needed. Taking part in threads in a constructive and non abusive way.


Title: Re: Make it 100 posts to get out of here.
Post by: mikanori on June 25, 2011, 09:47:30 AM
Make it 100 posts are needed to get out of this area, not the time spent logged or whatever. The amount of spam is absurd.
The amount of trolls with 199 posts is even more absurd.


Title: Re: Make it 100 posts to get out of here.
Post by: mrmeow on June 25, 2011, 09:51:46 AM
how about something like answering 5 questions about bitcoin/economy, and writing 1 sentence about what you wish to accomplish on the forums? that would filter out a lot of spammers for sure, while allowing serious "newbies" to start posting interesting posts right away.


Title: Re: Make it 100 posts to get out of here.
Post by: Manko on June 25, 2011, 10:26:02 AM
how about something like answering 5 questions about bitcoin/economy, and writing 1 sentence about what you wish to accomplish on the forums? that would filter out a lot of spammers for sure, while allowing serious "newbies" to start posting interesting posts right away.

Spammers could easily do what you suggest.

Perhaps a 5000 word essay... any grammatical errors and you get perma IP banned, lol

Sorry, I'm just being silly :)


Title: Re: Make it 100 posts to get out of here.
Post by: swop on June 25, 2011, 10:40:46 AM
Something should be done. Not sure exactly what though, At least they are trying to fix the spam etc.


Title: Re: Make it 100 posts to get out of here.
Post by: burger on June 25, 2011, 11:57:11 AM
I think that 100 posts is too much.


Title: Re: Make it 100 posts to get out of here.
Post by: bitcoinfancy on June 25, 2011, 12:07:02 PM
I think that epic leetspeak should allow instant whitelisting in the form of a secret code

One line such as

Lulz iz cun wa1t to gtfo of here! LMAOWTFPWNBBQ

Should be like a secret old school konami code


Title: Re: Make it 100 posts to get out of here.
Post by: xiffy on June 25, 2011, 12:37:48 PM
i just love confined spaces where i can talk to myself and on the other hand see all kinds of babling idiots get away with pyramid schemes and pron pictures that steal processing power of users who watch them while fapping.
clever but immoral.


Title: Re: Make it 100 posts to get out of here.
Post by: BitcoinPorn on June 25, 2011, 12:49:41 PM
50 is definitely not enough.   Anyone who wants to stay using the board will have to suffer through that.

Something like SomethingAwful works well because the cost for the user to sign up.   Something in the middle of the spammer and the forum tends to work, as spammers who are having to work forums manually are obviously poor and tend to not be patient, having 100 posts will weed things down to only the most elite spammers lol


Title: Re: Make it 100 posts to get out of here.
Post by: mmm2300 on June 25, 2011, 04:15:08 PM
Make it 100,000 posts and 7 years logged in why dont you.


Title: Re: Make it 100 posts to get out of here.
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on June 25, 2011, 04:19:34 PM
Its been hard enough to get the amount of posts I have now with out just making spam posts that don't contribute anything.
Eventually ill get board and leave this forum and im sure a lot of other valid members will do so as well.

Maybe a better way to get rid of unwated users would be a knowledge test or proof in some other way.

Like a litmus test?

Unrealted, but read my last post, then check this out (not spamming or trolling): http://www.lexifab.com/2010/07/stylometry/


Title: Re: Make it 100 posts to get out of here.
Post by: mautobu on June 25, 2011, 08:44:24 PM
who said spam?


Title: Re: Make it 100 posts to get out of here.
Post by: Deimos_Anomaly on June 25, 2011, 09:01:36 PM
The trolls are the ones that will make it out fastest. The rest is stuck here in limbo.


Title: Re: Make it 100 posts to get out of here.
Post by: Deimos_Anomaly on June 25, 2011, 09:02:37 PM
I have even started bad habits like double posting instead of editing  :D


Title: Re: Make it 100 posts to get out of here.
Post by: BitcoinPorn on June 25, 2011, 09:10:18 PM
The trolls are the ones that will make it out fastest. The rest is stuck here in limbo.

I disagree.  You'd be surprised but mods do check posts.

Quality and Quantity both go a long way.  I personally know that if you don't have shit posts, you will get released early.

In the end the people getting the benefit are the patient ones, which if it a spammer, at least they won't be a spazz spammer lol


Title: Re: Make it 100 posts to get out of here.
Post by: BitcoinPorn on June 25, 2011, 09:11:22 PM
Bonus Tip for Newbies - Reply to every post on the first page here with actual content.  If the conversation doesn't interest you, pretend it does and let's see if you can participate instead of talk about post counts!


Title: Re: Make it 100 posts to get out of here.
Post by: smoothie on June 25, 2011, 09:32:55 PM
Yeah 75 would be a decent number. Anyone agree?


Title: Re: Make it 100 posts to get out of here.
Post by: muc on June 25, 2011, 09:44:52 PM
It seems like the post requirement is never constant. I thought it was 10 post and 4 hours.


Title: Re: Make it 100 posts to get out of here.
Post by: gurcani on June 25, 2011, 10:27:29 PM
if spam is the problem, why encourage people to post even more? Do you have infinite hard disk space?

Normally I don't like posting on things that doesn't really interest me (16 hours, and this is my 3rd post, the first noe was some time before there was these stupid restrictions). But I read. And when there is an oportunity to reply to someone on an issue that actually interests me. I'd like to be able to do so.

I would never post this one for instance. But there you go. Stupid. but I do what you want.

Also I don't like being forced to doing things I don't find logical. We maybe relatively new to the forum. That doesn't mean you old timers can treat us like 16 year old kids (no offence to 16 year olds).


Title: Re: Make it 100 posts to get out of here.
Post by: BitcoinPorn on June 25, 2011, 10:34:11 PM
Also I don't like being forced to doing things I don't find logical. We maybe relatively new to the forum. That doesn't mean you old timers can treat us like 16 year old kids (no offence to 16 year olds).
This is a public forum ran by people who choose to make the rules.  You are coming on their turf, they will treat you, me, and everyone like 12 year old kids if necessary to keep the bullshit in line.

Browse around, 100 posts may not be the best answer, but right now you have to keep the Newbies out of regular discussions or hell would break loose.


Title: Re: Make it 100 posts to get out of here.
Post by: Sannyasi on June 25, 2011, 10:39:16 PM
i'll add another pointless post to add to my count....

high counts promote more trolling and spamming..... i've purposefully been posting useless shit like this and being a dick because I have nothing important to post about in order to meet whatever the current amount you need is


Title: Re: Make it 100 posts to get out of here.
Post by: PatrickHarnett on June 25, 2011, 10:53:08 PM
Well, if there are mods, they will be very busy.  This forum looks full of people who just stir others and/or spam.  Hard to find the worth-while information amongst the dross.  Still, there are some blatant frauds as well, but a lot of people tend to knock those down too.


Title: Re: Make it 100 posts to get out of here.
Post by: Vam on June 25, 2011, 10:57:10 PM
So many posts. So ridiculous!


Title: Re: Make it 100 posts to get out of here.
Post by: BitcoinPorn on June 25, 2011, 11:14:18 PM
i'll add another pointless post to add to my count....

high counts promote more trolling and spamming..... i've purposefully been posting useless shit like this and being a dick because I have nothing important to post about in order to meet whatever the current amount you need is

Sad.

Have faith that impatient people and people abusing the established system that they signed up for will be weeded out over the course of as the mods come to it.  It's a sad fact that a lot of the mods have lives (most likely) so can't, and I hope never do, monitor this place all minutes of the day.

I enjoy these Newbie forums because I obviously get a kick out of people complaining that they can't reply to text on their screen in certain areas that they would have access to if they would just be active, I guess it's harder than it seems to .. write.. text.. relating.. to .. Bitcoin lol 


Title: Re: Make it 100 posts to get out of here.
Post by: gurcani on June 25, 2011, 11:19:11 PM
This is a public forum ran by people who choose to make the rules.  You are coming on their turf, they will treat you, me, and everyone like 12 year old kids if necessary to keep the bullshit in line.

Browse around, 100 posts may not be the best answer, but right now you have to keep the Newbies out of regular discussions or hell would break loose.

I see the problem. But I don't see how this is the solution. There are people like Synaptic, replying to every post with obscenities. And people like me who read and don't say anything unless they think it will actually contribute to the discussion. Which behaviour you want to encourage?


Title: Re: Make it 100 posts to get out of here.
Post by: BitcoinPorn on June 25, 2011, 11:27:14 PM
I see the problem. But I don't see how this is the solution. There are people like Synaptic, replying to every post with obscenities. And people like me who read and don't say anything unless they think it will actually contribute to the discussion. Which behaviour you want to encourage?
I agree that it is not the solution, but it is a solution for now.  I see threads pop up with people complaining, few offer better solutions, so until then .. :/

As far as other users spamming, I am not sure of the person you talk about, but if they are doing it anywhere else other than the Newbie forum, I'm sure it won't last long.

Also, every post has a 'Report to Moderator' in the bottom right hand corner, I like a clean forum, I use it :)

Either way, I can tell, you'll be fine.  Find the Whitelist thread and request faster approval, going those means works as well.


Title: Re: Make it 100 posts to get out of here.
Post by: Maged on June 26, 2011, 05:24:33 AM
This is a public forum ran by people who choose to make the rules.  You are coming on their turf, they will treat you, me, and everyone like 12 year old kids if necessary to keep the bullshit in line.

Browse around, 100 posts may not be the best answer, but right now you have to keep the Newbies out of regular discussions or hell would break loose.

I see the problem. But I don't see how this is the solution. There are people like Synaptic, replying to every post with obscenities. And people like me who read and don't say anything unless they think it will actually contribute to the discussion. Which behaviour you want to encourage?

PLEASE PM one of the mods if you see the same user repeatedly doing something like this. We are massively understaffed and do what we can, but often things like this will slip through.

Also, the current requirements are working out well. They won't be changed.