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Title: To bounty or not to bounty?
Post by: BFree_ICO on October 03, 2017, 03:49:52 AM
Ok, guys: one question does not leave me peace. Actually there are 3 questions

-  is a bounty manager such an important "thing" for an ICO?
-  What are bonty managers actually do, what the founder and the project team can not reach? Do they have "magical" contacts with money, do they type advertisings faster than anybofy else, have they created the "right" community and what is on their communities so different to all numerios forums in internet?
-  And in case a bounty manager really makes sense, how to distinguish the "good" one from the "ivel"?

 


Title: Re: To bounty or not to bounty?
Post by: BFree_ICO on October 03, 2017, 04:11:52 AM
And there is an other topic I don't understand:

No one is reactong to the bounty questions. Why?

I mean everyody is duscussing if ICO's are a safe way to invest. But every ICO team is facing the problem of selecting a bounty manager. And let's be honest, there are so many newbies outside who try to sell you their services and ask for a lot of money for them. But if you try to find a duscussion about theese campaign managers, their work and trustworthiness you just don't find anything!


Title: Re: To bounty or not to bounty?
Post by: wartywarlock on October 03, 2017, 04:15:42 AM
Ok, guys: one question does not leave me peace. Actually there are 3 questions

-  is a bounty manager such an important "thing" for an ICO?
-  What are bonty managers actually do, what the founder and the project team can not reach? Do they have "magical" contacts with money, do they type advertisings faster than anybofy else, have they created the "right" community and what is on their communities so different to all numerios forums in internet?
-  And in case a bounty manager really makes sense, how to distinguish the "good" one from the "ivel"?

 
If you want to make with bounty manager you should choice famous bounty manager like sylon or colorlessK


Title: Re: To bounty or not to bounty?
Post by: BFree_ICO on October 03, 2017, 04:33:34 AM
]If you want to make with bounty manager you should choice famous bounty manager like sylon or colorlessK


That does'nt answer my quaetion. I REALLY wanted to know, what so special about bounty managers is. Sure everybody knows in general what they do, but is there something what a team can not do by themselves? Provided they have enough time.

Since I have'nt decide yet to bounty or not, I thank you very much for your recommendation. I will definitely check on the bounties you named. 


Title: Re: To bounty or not to bounty?
Post by: BFree_ICO on October 03, 2017, 04:43:56 AM

Just checked your token page. That was a refreshing surprice to see TGE in spite of ICO be written there :)


Title: Re: To bounty or not to bounty?
Post by: leea-1334 on October 03, 2017, 09:04:02 AM
Ok, guys: one question does not leave me peace. Actually there are 3 questions

-  is a bounty manager such an important "thing" for an ICO?
-  What are bonty managers actually do, what the founder and the project team can not reach? Do they have "magical" contacts with money, do they type advertisings faster than anybofy else, have they created the "right" community and what is on their communities so different to all numerios forums in internet?
-  And in case a bounty manager really makes sense, how to distinguish the "good" one from the "ivel"?

 

-Yes it is. But you should do it on your own instead of outsourcing it, unless it is just short term or you do not have expertise. You also want an experienced one, not an amateur. Badly run campaign means bad reputation.
-Bounty managers just take care of tedious tasks like ensuring people post/tweet/like the way they're supposed to and have good quality posts. You as a dev should focus on building your coin not on counting posts.
-Feedback. Check out their past work. See profile> post history. See feedback on trust.


Title: Re: To bounty or not to bounty?
Post by: BFree_ICO on October 03, 2017, 07:12:50 PM
-Yes it is. But you should do it on your own instead of outsourcing it,

We've though the same: better doing it by ourselves than outsourcing. We have a very great project on start and definitely convinced that no one could be able to explain it to the people better than us, the founders, who are burning for it, wo hav'nt done anything else for the past 4 years than just made everything to help the project to grow.

But now we are a little surprised. Ir seems like it is not enough to have a good project to offer. You needs crowds, and crowds. and crowds!

Well we stay optimistic, believe in our project and would be happy to show to the future Start-ups organizing an own ICO: it is possible to do an ICO by yourselves. 

Maybe the most amazing thing you can experience: www.bfreecoin.io

 


Title: Re: To bounty or not to bounty?
Post by: VTS on October 03, 2017, 08:05:17 PM
-Yes it is. But you should do it on your own instead of outsourcing it,

We've though the same: better doing it by ourselves than outsourcing. We have a very great project on start and definitely convinced that no one could be able to explain it to the people better than us, the founders, who are burning for it, wo hav'nt done anything else for the past 4 years than just made everything to help the project to grow.

But now we are a little surprised. Ir seems like it is not enough to have a good project to offer. You needs crowds, and crowds. and crowds!

Well we stay optimistic, believe in our project and would be happy to show to the future Start-ups organizing an own ICO: it is possible to do an ICO by yourselves.  

Maybe the most amazing thing you can experience: www.bfreecoin.io

 

You can do everything yourself if you have a team! Yet, no marketing skills or no marketing budget = no crowd and no crowed = no ico success. Hiring helpers here is not a bad thing.. donīt see it as full outsourcing...see it as your support!

Good luck with your ico!

Here are some tips for starting an ico (made by community members) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2131560.120


Title: Re: To bounty or not to bounty?
Post by: BFree_ICO on October 03, 2017, 09:40:57 PM
You can do everything yourself if you have a team! Yet, no marketing skills or no marketing budget = no crowd and no crowed = no ico success. Hiring helpers here is not a bad thing.. donīt see it as full outsourcing...see it as your support!

Good luck with your ico!

Here are some tips for starting an ico (made by community members) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2131560.120

Thank you for your advices, especially the link to the marketing topic is very useful!



Title: Re: To bounty or not to bounty?
Post by: orbitlense on October 04, 2017, 12:39:38 AM
I also explored this issue and confirmed my own opinion on this matter. The best way is to organize a bonus campaign by your own, but in order not to lose the main focus, especially for the lack of a person in a team that could conduct this program, it is better to hire someone for operational tasks... to check the posts, articles, translations, communicate with participants, publish the relevant info about program and so on. This will cost much more cheaper than to hire cool manager for project promotion and will save time for the main objectives.


Title: Re: To bounty or not to bounty?
Post by: Dutchyyy on October 04, 2017, 02:46:48 AM
Ok, guys: one question does not leave me peace. Actually there are 3 questions

-  is a bounty manager such an important "thing" for an ICO?
-  What are bonty managers actually do, what the founder and the project team can not reach? Do they have "magical" contacts with money, do they type advertisings faster than anybofy else, have they created the "right" community and what is on their communities so different to all numerios forums in internet?
-  And in case a bounty manager really makes sense, how to distinguish the "good" one from the "ivel"? 

Bounty manager is mandatory of you plan to run Bounty campaign. In past few month I've been in few campaigns with manager and in few without. Those without are always a total mess in the end when it's time to count stake and distribute the bounties.

If you want your project to become popular and successful, you need a Bounty campaign.


Title: Re: To bounty or not to bounty?
Post by: BFree_ICO on October 04, 2017, 04:12:12 AM

Bounty manager is mandatory of you plan to run Bounty campaign. In past few month I've been in few campaigns with manager and in few without. Those without are always a total mess in the end when it's time to count stake and distribute the bounties.


The problem I have right now is that magical first purchaser. I just realized, it turns a little against the project, if you don't have any tokens sold after a few days. But on the other hand it is absolutely logical cause you need time to make the project known.

Sure it is a simple psychology, if nothing is sold people believe it should be something wrong with the project. I assume during the bounty some projects buy their own tokens from different wallets to make it seem like a crowd coming and purchasing, that causes by "real" purchaser the impression the coin is popular and they start to buy.

Well, sure it is an effective way, even if pretty manipulating, but how can you claim after this, your project is such an honest one?

Marketing has not to be fair or honest. But actually it is hard to accept, after you came a long way to the current stage and actaully did it in a absolute honest and fair way.

This dilemma to stay fair or to get succefull a little easier and a little faster you are facing as a project manager almost every day. Well I claim we still moove on the right side !

So everybody who wants to entrust his money to a team who rather likes to convince you than to manipulate, is very welcome to participate in our ICO and to achieve something great together
www.bfreecoin.io


Title: Re: To bounty or not to bounty?
Post by: ranman09 on October 04, 2017, 04:46:50 AM
And there is an other topic I don't understand:

No one is reactong to the bounty questions. Why?

I mean everyody is duscussing if ICO's are a safe way to invest. But every ICO team is facing the problem of selecting a bounty manager. And let's be honest, there are so many newbies outside who try to sell you their services and ask for a lot of money for them. But if you try to find a duscussion about theese campaign managers, their work and trustworthiness you just don't find anything!

You are having a bad experience my friend I am really sorry. Well some managers are too busy managing some other ICOs that is why maybe they cant reply. One factor that also results in this is that the Devs of the project dont have any updates actually. Thats why they cant give you updates.


Title: Re: To bounty or not to bounty?
Post by: torry28 on October 04, 2017, 05:16:21 AM
Ok, guys: one question does not leave me peace. Actually there are 3 questions

-  is a bounty manager such an important "thing" for an ICO?
-  What are bonty managers actually do, what the founder and the project team can not reach? Do they have "magical" contacts with money, do they type advertisings faster than anybofy else, have they created the "right" community and what is on their communities so different to all numerios forums in internet?
-  And in case a bounty manager really makes sense, how to distinguish the "good" one from the "ivel"? 

Bounty manager is mandatory of you plan to run Bounty campaign. In past few month I've been in few campaigns with manager and in few without. Those without are always a total mess in the end when it's time to count stake and distribute the bounties.

If you want your project to become popular and successful, you need a Bounty campaign.
Wrong. Bounty manager isn't mandatory for running a campaign. Usually dev hired the manager to make their job become easier because they want to focus about their plan.
Monetha and SONM are few of example a campaign could success without a manager. They running their own campaign and their ICO was successful.
Bounty manager is needed, but not mandatory


Title: Re: To bounty or not to bounty?
Post by: anggriani on October 05, 2017, 08:35:22 AM
Ok, guys: one question does not leave me peace. Actually there are 3 questions
-  is a bounty manager such an important "thing" for an ICO?
I think the manager bounty one of the important positions in a project. So he can handle all campaign-related work, from campaign registration, campaign rules, stakes counting and also questions from campaign participants.

-  What are bonty managers actually do, what the founder and the project team can not reach? Do they have "magical" contacts with money, do they type advertisings faster than anybofy else, have they created the "right" community and what is on their communities so different to all numerios forums in internet?
Many developers are new to this forum, so they do not understand much about the rules and features available in this forum.
For example your account is newly created, rank newbie and your account can not post image in this forum.

-  And in case a bounty manager really makes sense, how to distinguish the "good" one from the "ivel"?
All the managers here are good, nothing is not good. which is often found on the contrary, the manager is good but the project is not good, the manager is good but the scam project, the manager is good but the developer does not pay bounty and this is a fact.



Title: Re: To bounty or not to bounty?
Post by: Bitmedrano040117 on October 05, 2017, 02:59:49 PM
And there is an other topic I don't understand:

No one is reactong to the bounty questions. Why?

I mean everyody is duscussing if ICO's are a safe way to invest. But every ICO team is facing the problem of selecting a bounty manager. And let's be honest, there are so many newbies outside who try to sell you their services and ask for a lot of money for them. But if you try to find a duscussion about theese campaign managers, their work and trustworthiness you just don't find anything!

There are many mangers nowadays in this industry on which can be says a good bounty manager and has a good reputation in this industry. Those managers are Jamalaezaz, Irpan, Sharma, Sylon, Sergio, aviruness and Bitfinesse are proven and tested very reliable person and most of the token they handled became good and successfull.


Title: Re: To bounty or not to bounty?
Post by: chutchmcgillicutty on October 05, 2017, 07:22:30 PM
I think a good bounty manager is a good idea. Lends credibility to your Bounty program and frees up your time to focus on more important aspects of ICO

That being said, I think Bounty programs where they make you post your activity weekly are going out of favor as more automated options pop up.


Title: Re: To bounty or not to bounty?
Post by: KillyGon on October 05, 2017, 11:54:22 PM
Ok, guys: one question does not leave me peace. Actually there are 3 questions

-  is a bounty manager such an important "thing" for an ICO?
-  What are bonty managers actually do, what the founder and the project team can not reach? Do they have "magical" contacts with money, do they type advertisings faster than anybofy else, have they created the "right" community and what is on their communities so different to all numerios forums in internet?
-  And in case a bounty manager really makes sense, how to distinguish the "good" one from the "ivel"?

 

bounty manager very important, because can incraese trust youre project, and much participant can promote youre project if use campaign manager


Title: Re: To bounty or not to bounty?
Post by: janggernaut on October 06, 2017, 02:51:39 AM
Ok, guys: one question does not leave me peace. Actually there are 3 questions

-  is a bounty manager such an important "thing" for an ICO?
-  What are bonty managers actually do, what the founder and the project team can not reach? Do they have "magical" contacts with money, do they type advertisings faster than anybofy else, have they created the "right" community and what is on their communities so different to all numerios forums in internet?
-  And in case a bounty manager really makes sense, how to distinguish the "good" one from the "ivel"?

 

bounty manager very important, because can incraese trust youre project, and much participant can promote youre project if use campaign manager

Bounty manager won't increase "trust" of your project. No matter how good your manager, if your project is founded by scammer, your project will be become nothing.
Manager only make the job become easier (well, that's his main job too)


Title: Re: To bounty or not to bounty?
Post by: Skylake on October 06, 2017, 08:48:41 AM
the manager of bounty will check each user who joined, he will check the posting of user, where the spamer and where the user can help spread out the ICO, if more people spread out ICO, share to the world, the ico will have more chance to succes, to get bigger investor too.


Title: Re: To bounty or not to bounty?
Post by: Seansky on October 06, 2017, 10:17:59 AM
is a bounty manager such an important "thing" for an ICO?
Bounty managers is important thing for an ICO specially when you are starting one using a newbie account here in bitcointalk since it aids in gaining trust of others to promote your token crowdsale.
What are bonty managers actually do, what the founder and the project team can not reach? Do they have "magical" contacts with money, do they type advertisings faster than anybofy else, have they created the "right" community and what is on their communities so different to all numerios forums in internet?
They dont have magical contracts with money, they will just ease your jobs by managing the bounty campaign for you, always updating the bounty thread about the news, spreadsheet ans also rule changes that wants to be implemented by your team.
And in case a bounty manager really makes sense, how to distinguish the "good" one from the "ivel"?
To distinguish a good one from a bad, then just see here in bitcointalk who does their job right and updating their bounty campaign threads on time, just check other bounty campaign threads. The one I will recommend though is Sylon.


Title: Re: To bounty or not to bounty?
Post by: thechex on October 07, 2017, 04:51:34 AM
Ok, guys: one question does not leave me peace. Actually there are 3 questions

-  is a bounty manager such an important "thing" for an ICO?
-  What are bonty managers actually do, what the founder and the project team can not reach? Do they have "magical" contacts with money, do they type advertisings faster than anybofy else, have they created the "right" community and what is on their communities so different to all numerios forums in internet?
-  And in case a bounty manager really makes sense, how to distinguish the "good" one from the "ivel"?

 
If you want to make with bounty manager you should choice famous bounty manager like sylon or colorlessK

Thanks, I messaged sylon or colorlessK.

We are seeking a bounty manager for the CHEX Token (CHX) project is to grow the launched Cannabis Hemp Exchange (CHEX) platform, and power Supply Chain/B2B Exchange in other industries. The cannabis industry is important to help change the world in the way of medicinal cannabis science & industrial hemp applications, and we are in a position to influence it and solve problems, outlined in our business plan. I invite all to learn more, and refer any bounty managers:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2112470.msg21120617#msg21120617 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2112470.msg21120617#msg21120617)



Title: Re: To bounty or not to bounty?
Post by: thechex on October 07, 2017, 04:59:35 AM
I agree that for many projects, including ours, unless they are very simple and straightforward to understand, there is no one better to manage the bounty program and explain the project as someone in-house, but in many cases, the ICO team, if they are small, does not have the bandwidth to manage thoroughly along with their others responsibilities without some help.


Title: Re: To bounty or not to bounty?
Post by: jossiel on October 07, 2017, 09:25:14 AM
Ok, guys: one question does not leave me peace. Actually there are 3 questions

-  is a bounty manager such an important "thing" for an ICO?

Yes, he's the one that manages and checks if those participants of their campaigns are doing their job right so a bounty manager is really an important thing for an ICO.

-  What are bonty managers actually do, what the founder and the project team can not reach? Do they have "magical" contacts with money, do they type advertisings faster than anybofy else, have they created the "right" 

Those founder or developers does have a load of work to do and they don't have enough time of managing those things so they are hiring a bounty manager. There's no magical contacts or sort of that thing, they just want to leave advertising in the hands of the manager.

-  And in case a bounty manager really makes sense, how to distinguish the "good" one from the "ivel"?

Very easy, look at the tons of work and on how he can make that bounty campaigns a quality one by managing tons of participants and with the satisfaction of feed back from the people he managed.



Title: Re: To bounty or not to bounty?
Post by: bundo on October 08, 2017, 03:44:45 AM
I know if the project that he leads to succeed, eat will get a big pay
He also invites to groups of bitcoin groups, such as facebook group, telegram etc. To follow the program that he stretcher.
Invites coin seekers to take part in the project he is carrying.

little I know


Title: Re: To bounty or not to bounty?
Post by: daggny_taggart on October 08, 2017, 04:01:32 AM
I would suggest managing your own ICO, since :

A) you will get a better feel of what is missing and will be in close touch with community;
B) There is nothing difficult except for keeping the right count, and making sure  the participants don't breach terms of the bounty;
C) Bounty managers can not be really motivated to do the job right, and to check on everyone's progress since they are not PART of the team.

I also put together a comprehensive article of medium that may answer additional questions about doing Bounty

https://medium.com/@BigBreak101/ico-bounty-marketing-why-it-is-so-important-29893803201d


Title: Re: To bounty or not to bounty?
Post by: siddartha1492 on October 08, 2017, 05:40:55 AM
Frankly speaking bounty managers are just another community managers. If you think your team member has enough time and skills then you don't need a bounty manager at all.

But yes, advantage of bounty managers are that they are more experienced here and know how to create a good bounty campaign. They are also acquainted to basic rules and some members here. And most importantly they have higher ranks which increase the trust of the members in the bounty campaign.

Other than that they are not magical or so!!