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If you're giving Hazard anything to "code" you a new coin, you are being ripped off.

All he is doing is editing 6 lines of code that a n00b using google could figure out how to do themselves. He is copy/pasting coins and doing little more than changing a few different numbers and then asking for payment for doing so. If you are paying for him to do this, you are being ripped off.

He knows what he is doing is bullshit too, hence the reason his thread is self-moderated, so that when you call him on his bullshit he can just delete your comment and no one will ever know as evidenced below -

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Not to mention that I found this:

https://andarazoroflove.org/how-to-create-alt-coin-scrypt-clones-for-fun-and-profit-bitcoin-litecoin-secrets-exposed/

If anyone wanted to make another shitcoin, they don't need to pay for it either.

If the process is so easy, why aren't more doing it :D

I deleted your comment because it amounted to little more than thread crapping. Deal with it.

You're giving him too much of importance with such threads, something he desperately needs  ;)

More people aren't doing it because more than 90% of the people on this forum think it's a stupid fucking idea to release new coins with no new innovations (like you do every day).

And to be clear, I usually defend people creating scrypt-clones with no new innovations because I like to see how coins respond to various changes in the base parameters, but what pisses me off about you is that you have the audacity to charge people for something that is as easy as editing a few values in pre-existing code, and you act like you are doing something that requires skill and real coding.

The hardest part of what you are doing is building the genesis block which is only considered difficult because most people have no understanding of how the genesis block is made, but even that can be easily learned with a proper google search.

If you want to make new coins with no innovations and minimal code changes, fine, I have no problem with that, but don't misrepresent what you are doing as real, actual coding for those who don't know how because from what I can tell from what I have seen so far, you don't know how to code either, you just know how to change a few numerical values and find/replace the coin name.

Tell that fgt, c4n10!

It's fine, you can stay ignorant all you want. You don't affect my business at all :)

Time is money, friend.

Douglas is a troll, in known quantities.

How exactly does ignorance factor into this situation...? Please, enlighten me...

IMO, any thread I would start would also be moderated due to all the threadcrapping that goes on too.

Coming from people that want to moderate stuff and have some kind of "control" calling out people on self moding LOL

This is pretty cool.

https://andarazoroflove.org/how-to-create-alt-coin-scrypt-clones-for-fun-and-profit-bitcoin-litecoin-secrets-exposed/ <<< Lots of reading = most people would rather pay Hazard's price even if they knew they could change the values.

I inquired to see if the price seemed reasonable. What was I quoted? 0.5 BTC. A price a lot of people can mine in under a week. Yeah, crap coins come, and crap coins go. So do we run around with our underwear outside of our shorts trying to save the world?
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Some, I guess.

Others? They do the research.

Hazard's harm is no less or no more than the next person's.

If you want to read up and learn how to create an ALT, sweet.

If you want to hire someone to do it for you who has experience, then that's cool too.

Until Hazard DOES NOT DELIVER THE SERVICES THAT HE IS PAID TO DO, then all of the whiny, wishy-washy threads need to chill the fuck out.

Oh but thanks for that link on creating your own alt ;). +1 KudosCoin to you!

{WTS} hazards address and personal information

5 BTC obo

The only problem I have is quality alts get buried in the crap or are not released.

At least our topics are not self-moderated like that other fuck.

agree, there are far worse things than what Hazard is doing.

Well Thanks Mate. I'm glad someone here isn't wearing the new line of Victoria's Secret. ;)

What...?



My point is not that he is making crap-coins, my point is that he is misrepresenting what he is doing as real coding. When he says:


He is clearly implying that he is offering a service providing REAL coding (what he is really doing is taking advantage of the fact that most people don't understand how easy it is to do what he is doing and representing himself as a REAL coder doing REAL coding for a fee.

0.5 BTC... That is more than $50 USD for him to edit numerical values in about 6 lines of code. He is not doing ANY coding, he is editing values.

He is ripping you off at 0.5 BTC and you are defending him while he does it.

Again, I could care less that he is creating coins with no new innovations, check my post history, I defend new scrypt clones all the time that have no new features. What I am complaining about is his misrepresentation of being a real coder providing a real coding service to the unknowing society at large.

Yeah, someone also posted a tutorial here too...Whats your point? People pay Hazard, because its easier, and they have the BTC for it. Who gives a shit?
Also, Hazard compiles the clients for them, which, as I understand it, is really the hardest part

I'm actually a fratstar who bullies the nerds at school into making coins for me.

Thank you all for pimping my link.  ;D

Perhaps you shall start your own services? Charging less, and in the correct description of the service provided? Heck, since Simran gave us that link that teaches everybody, we shall all start our own value editing service. Bitcointalk.org's Alternative cryptocurrencies Creation Group! We're the first members to join, how does it feel to be the genesis value editor members? I for one am foaming at the mouth in excitement!
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So then he should be advertising himself as a shortcut for lazy people, not as a real developer for those who don't know how to code. What he is doing is not worth $50.

If people want to pay to have someone edit code for them to create alt-coin clones with nothing new I'll do it for $10 a pop then. That's how fast, easy and streamlined the process of making a new coin with just basic edited crap is, I will do it for $10 a pop and have your coin ready within 24 hours with github source code, linux binaries and windows binaries.

I will not only do it cheaper, but I won't pretend to call it coding or development either, because it's not.

Do you accept altcoins for payment? :D

I accept payment in BQC, BTB, BTC, BTE, CNC, DGC, DVC, FRC, FRK, FTC, IXC, LKY, LTC, NMC, MNC, NBL, PPC, PWC, PXC, RUC, TRC, WDC, and YAC.

I was offering to do them in his thread for 5LTC for the same reason...these LTC clones aren't worth much more. Of course I was also self-moderated from his thread. Later I saw him taking credit for telling me how to make my own coin...ha, well if you want to know how to do something, you must ask right? He gave me a few pointers but left out the important bits "checkpoints.cpp"...Whatever, that made me want to know how to do it even more. I published the guide as the end result of "figuring it all out" and in the sprit of free information. I'm actually writing a thesis on crypto currency (slowly).

Truth is there's a reason all of Hazard's coins are based on the number 420 in some way shape or form. They take about an hour to produce and that's including making the graphics from scratch. That said, if he can profit from doing something with free software that others can't (or won't) there's no faulting that. There are limits to good taste though, VAG is about the lamest idea for a coin yet, and don't say you are trying to prove a point--that's a pretty dumb point.

I think Hazard's worst offense is thread bumping with " ;D" Gahh, I haaaate that.

It is worth, what people are willing to pay. Free market. And make sure you compile the windows binaries

Streisand Effect! I was thinking about making an altcoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93001.0) a year ago, but was daunted by the complexity of both defining and coding it. Maybe I shouldn't assume I'll have to code everything...

Of course, that is what I have mxe for.

Oh sweet baby jesus, stop it, my sides are splitting in laughter! :D

Where's the 'Hates altcoin builder, offers altcoin building service, accepts all hated altcoins as payment' meme when you need it!

Is your trouble with reading or comprehension...? As already stated multiple times in this thread, my problem is not that he is offering a coin-building service for useless coins, my problem is that he is misrepresenting himself as a real developer doing real coding work when all he is doing is editing a few numerical values in existing code and he is ripping off the people he is working for because they don't know the difference.

Keep laughing while you defend those who exploit the ignorant and uneducated.

Stay ignorant :D

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bearly there....

I understand that you think the advertising and misleading words are what makes you upset I was just acknowledging something that was pretty damn funny it's okay don't worry :-)

I'm against the Hazard service, but I think he is being fair. We all know that he is only doing some lines modifications to launch the coins, or do you spected to create a full new and shinny bitcoin competitor?

it's not Hazard fault if somebody pay him to make crapcoins...

Paid for order 2407 with rush processing (48 hour turnaround time) yesterday.

Also, fwiw, the service offered is more than a few lines of code now that the hash & difficulty algos are different... I am a reasonably technical person and I anticipate the changes would have taken me at least 1-2 weeks given my unfamiliarity with the codebase...

Anyway, looking forward to posting a positive experience here.