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Title: 8970 Is Coming
Post by: computerparts on June 04, 2013, 02:14:09 AM
And it's gonna be a monster. Should be capable of 1gh/mh. Projected retail is $599, so better start saving up your pennies  ;D


Title: Re: 8970 Is Coming
Post by: Stephen Gornick on June 04, 2013, 02:45:14 AM
And it's gonna be a monster. Should be capable of 1gh/mh. Projected retail is $599, so better start saving up your pennies  ;D

Well, that's going to be useless for Bitcoin mining (look at the recent rate of increase of difficulty if you aren't convinced).

But maybe for some scrypt-based alt it will still have a use for mining at some level ... at least enough to give you justification for ordering one.


Title: Re: 8970 Is Coming
Post by: Bonam on June 04, 2013, 02:52:47 AM
I had read that AMD is planning to skip the 8xxx series naming for desktop cards (only use them for OEM chips in laptop graphics, etc) and would go directly to the 9xxx series for desktop graphics card products. The 9970 is supposed to have 4096 stream processors and I think should do 1.2 GH/s.


Title: Re: 8970 Is Coming
Post by: kinitex on June 04, 2013, 04:12:01 AM
...and when are these due out? 7990 was just released.


Title: Re: 8970 Is Coming
Post by: notlist3d on June 04, 2013, 04:57:49 AM
...and when are these due out? 7990 was just released.

I agree it seems soon considering 7990 release.  Then again 7990 really is a very small amount of their sells i bet.


Title: Re: 8970 Is Coming
Post by: ralree on June 04, 2013, 05:05:33 AM
Until it breaks the price point of 7950 ($300 for ~620kh), I won't be interested.


Title: Re: 8970 Is Coming
Post by: notaek on June 04, 2013, 05:14:54 AM
There is one rumor of next gen AMD cards (not sure if 8xxx or 9xxx) saying that they will have 4096 stream processors, but that would be based on the 20nm process which would only be available as soon as Q4 2013 - Q1 2014. This would be great for mining, and it would also me a massive performance boost all around.  

Another rumor is 2306 stream processors up in the next few months based on the 28nm fab process to compete with the 7xx series.  This wouldn't be a great option for mining, but it would drive the existing cards prices down a little bit which is good.

We should find out more this week during computex.


Title: Re: 8970 Is Coming
Post by: notlist3d on June 04, 2013, 05:54:08 AM
We should find out more this week during computex.

I watched 7990 forever.  I feel they don't release much info until most of cards of previous generation are sold.  Granted they have done ton's of promotions to have free games with purchases... so who knows i hope they do release it just to view specs.  But i think we will hear about it a while before its released.


Title: Re: 8970 Is Coming
Post by: computerparts on June 05, 2013, 02:04:39 AM
I had read that AMD is planning to skip the 8xxx series naming for desktop cards (only use them for OEM chips in laptop graphics, etc) and would go directly to the 9xxx series for desktop graphics card products. The 9970 is supposed to have 4096 stream processors and I think should do 1.2 GH/s.

I read that too but it makes no sense. Mobile chips have always been identified as having an m. For example 7970m.


Title: Re: 8970 Is Coming
Post by: Gator-hex on June 06, 2013, 12:55:36 PM
If AMD want to sell more GPUs they should take Butterfly Labs up on their offer to sell chips in bulk and plop an ASIC on the GPU board.  
http://www.coindesk.com/butterfly-labs-says-bulk-chip-sales-to-start-soon/
I'm starting that rumor!  ;D

I've always found 2x7850 more power efficient and cost effective than anything else, so I'm just looking forward to the 8850/9850 ;)


Title: Re: 8970 Is Coming
Post by: flound1129 on June 06, 2013, 03:16:23 PM
I thought AMD had already announced that they're not releasing the Radeon HD 8xxx in 2013, has this changed?

http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-2013-roadmap-confirms-radeon-hd-8000-series-q4-2013/


Title: Re: 8970 Is Coming
Post by: computerparts on June 06, 2013, 08:18:22 PM
I thought AMD had already announced that they're not releasing the Radeon HD 8xxx in 2013, has this changed?

http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-2013-roadmap-confirms-radeon-hd-8000-series-q4-2013/

That article is old. Things have changed.


Title: Re: 8970 Is Coming
Post by: flound1129 on June 06, 2013, 09:50:24 PM
I thought AMD had already announced that they're not releasing the Radeon HD 8xxx in 2013, has this changed?

http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-2013-roadmap-confirms-radeon-hd-8000-series-q4-2013/

That article is old. Things have changed.

Any source on this?


Title: Re: 8970 Is Coming
Post by: svetlim on June 06, 2013, 10:30:55 PM
And it's gonna be a monster. Should be capable of 1gh/mh. Projected retail is $599, so better start saving up your pennies  ;D

where can see post with info about this ?


Title: Re: 8970 Is Coming
Post by: computerparts on June 06, 2013, 10:41:34 PM
I thought AMD had already announced that they're not releasing the Radeon HD 8xxx in 2013, has this changed?

http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-2013-roadmap-confirms-radeon-hd-8000-series-q4-2013/

That article is old. Things have changed.

Any source on this?

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Volcanic-Islands-GPU-Sea-Island,22443.html

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=zh-CN&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chiphell.com%2Fthread-755237-1-1.html&act=url

http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-hd-8000-series-reportedly-launching-q3-2013-specifications-revealed/

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?act=url&depth=2&hl=de&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=sv&tl=en&u=http://www.sweclockers.com/nyhet/16970-radeon-volcanic-islands-i-fjarde-kvartalet&usg=ALkJrhiPeLWP15dxF20HI23bZ4Ca6K7G0w

Will add more as I find them




Title: Re: 8970 Is Coming
Post by: computerparts on June 09, 2013, 06:29:05 PM
http://cdn.overclock.net/f/fe/500x1000px-LL-fea89a11_Radeon-HD-89701.jpeg


Title: Re: 8970 Is Coming
Post by: notaek on June 09, 2013, 08:31:01 PM

 :o source?


Title: Re: 8970 Is Coming
Post by: Choadmeyer on June 09, 2013, 10:07:58 PM
Until it breaks the price point of 7950 ($300 for ~620kh), I won't be interested.

+1


Title: Re: 8970 Is Coming
Post by: Quix on June 09, 2013, 11:00:48 PM
Expect end of year, or close to it. I don't see GPU mining being worthwhile at that point. I predict alt coins will not pick up the slack. Even litecoin isn't worth much anymore.


Title: Re: 8970 Is Coming
Post by: kendog77 on June 10, 2013, 12:54:39 AM
This should be a scrypt mining beast.


Title: Re: 8970 Is Coming
Post by: computerparts on June 10, 2013, 07:03:31 PM

http://videocardz.com/42682/amd-radeon-hd-8970-pictured-leaked The new cards will supposedly be on display at E3.


Title: Re: 8970 Is Coming
Post by: seleme on June 10, 2013, 07:11:45 PM
Until it breaks the price point of 7950 ($300 for ~620kh), I won't be interested.

Depending on electricity consumption it might be better deal for those that would like to invest in farms as it means less of other parts.

Rig with 4 of 1MHs cards would mine at bigger hashrate than two 3x7950 rigs. Scale it even more and you might spare few bucks.


Title: Re: 8970 Is Coming
Post by: ralree on June 10, 2013, 11:42:02 PM
Until it breaks the price point of 7950 ($300 for ~620kh), I won't be interested.

Depending on electricity consumption it might be better deal for those that would like to invest in farms as it means less of other parts.

Rig with 4 of 1MHs cards would mine at bigger hashrate than two 3x7950 rigs. Scale it even more and you might spare few bucks.

True that might make it worth it.  If it really ends up doing >1200KH/s or so LTC, I will definitely consider it.


Title: Re: 8970 Is Coming
Post by: Magnate on June 11, 2013, 01:30:40 AM
I'd be more interested in the 8950/9950 for litecoin mining, the **70 might be better for bitcoin if you still want to use GPUs for that.

Currently the 7970 is bandwidth limited and despite having more processing power than than its little brother the hash rate doesn't scale.

The number quoted for the **70 show a higher band width, but with more processors you are still going to be bottle necked. If the **50 has the same band width but less processors and a much lower price then this is your LTC baby.

BTC you don't worry about memory performance and under clock not over clock. So the extra processors will be put to full work *IF* you want to mine with a GPU.


Title: Re: 8970 Is Coming
Post by: innovation on June 24, 2013, 11:51:39 PM
Great news!


Title: Re: 8970 Is Coming
Post by: Amph on June 26, 2013, 11:59:54 AM
end of the year is too late anyway...


Title: Re: 8970 Is Coming
Post by: SeanArce on June 28, 2013, 04:58:42 PM
Mining is useless. Stick to fiat


Title: Re: 8970 Is Coming
Post by: polarhei on June 29, 2013, 04:05:25 PM
I had read that AMD is planning to skip the 8xxx series naming for desktop cards (only use them for OEM chips in laptop graphics, etc) and would go directly to the 9xxx series for desktop graphics card products. The 9970 is supposed to have 4096 stream processors and I think should do 1.2 GH/s.

Then, it only provides the stable, but not for later stage. Additionally the new series. If there is no H265 hardware accelaration. Then. it is just a little improvement, not so insteresting as The people in the room know GPU is a form of ASIC,stable ones, New functions can be tested with FPGA.

4096 is currently not possible in 28nm, But AMD like to put more Cores in CU to make stronger, which is a dead loop.


Title: Re: 8970 Is Coming
Post by: polarhei on June 29, 2013, 04:07:33 PM
Mining is useless. Stick to fiat

Mining is used for controlling risk as everything has its risk. I accept the risk, Why there are three avatars following me?


Title: Re: 8970 Is Coming
Post by: cdog on July 01, 2013, 10:31:47 AM
Screw mining with that thing, I want one for Battlefield 4!  :o


Title: Re: 8970 Is Coming
Post by: relm9 on July 01, 2013, 07:47:17 PM
I plan to buy two of them, but for gaming. If they are still worthwhile to use for mining purposes, well, then that's a bonus.


Title: Re: 8970 Is Coming
Post by: Bitweasil on July 02, 2013, 03:32:12 AM
I agree it seems soon considering 7990 release.  Then again 7990 really is a very small amount of their sells i bet.

What's disturbing is that the 7990 was "never supposed to happen" - that there is an official 7990 means that GCN2 is badly delayed and AMD needed something (anything) to compete with nVidia's latest.