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Was hilariousandco into vacation for last 6 to 12 months ?

I just wonder why those insubstantial topics were allowed to be discussed to have 1000s of replies and then being trashed down?

I do not have any second opinion about low quality/repeated topics. But my question is, Why did not mods delete/lock/nuke those topics once they were created or at least after having 100/200 replies (just after their purposes being served at least), but doing after a long period and all at once ?

It is a good idea to punish the spammer by deleting their posts so that they will not create new insubstantial topics. But when a whole topic is being deleted all other good posters were also facing the same punishment.

I just want to remind hilariousandco the another option "LOCKING topic" to serve the same purpose. (I am not here to tease anyone, still I just want to show how a higher official is missing their responsibilities).

The good practice must be :
1. New insubstantial topics should be deleted/locked immediately
2. Old insubstantial topics should be locked or moved to off-topic/archive rather than trashing.

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I know someone will come and shout you do not have any point (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2126801.msg22065722#msg22065722) due to my rank. But as per speech of freedom and being responsible bitcoiner[1] I create this non-insubstantial topic.

[1] I have made more than 70 people to adopt bitcoins in my town.

Why not add an option 3 here? That option being if you see a thread with 100 replies in it DON'T FUCKING POST THERE. Sure mods could lock threads but if everyone wasn't acting like a goddamn retard and posting the same opinion over and over and over, we wouldn't be having this problem would we.

You have all the scam ICOs paying these people to make xxx amount of posts per week, so alot of these guys just go post like madmen. Then you have other users with 20-50 accounts making 5-10 posts a day per account not caring which thread they post in just as long as they get their numbers for the week.

Then toss in the new managers that have popped up in the last 2 months who are spammers themselves and don't give a damn about participants and where they post, long as they are getting paid.

So let's stop complaining about what a moderator is or isn't doing and point the finger where it should be pointed at in the first place. AT THE USERS.

Mods are also human like you and me and may miss out something sometimes. Hence is is not "crime" to point out some suggestions.

100% agree that it is not a crime to point out a suggestion but you directly called out a guy who is trying to do his job the best he can. He's not above making a mistake as are none of us, but he can only do so much.

If you keep consistently posting in spam-threads you're either a spammer or its/his/her disciple.
Of course you might want to state your poor judgment which accidentally occurred but in such case you shouldn’t complain about few deleted posts.
But…
you also might want to resent that there were more than just a few posts deleted, well then you should be scratched just like those threads. 

Recently, I reported to the moderator topics which I considered low quality and somehow moderator has acted upon it.  I reported topics that at a glance cannot be understood or no point at all.  I even reported topics which have 100 pages in replies.  I don't know if it were deleted already.  But maybe, we should help the moderator instead.  My post has been reduced for about 20 to 30 post I guess.  At first, I was in rage to see that, but then I understood the moderators. We should help them identify low-quality topics instead or you can report to moderators so that the topic will be highlighted.  Thay way, we have called their attention..

I guess you are pissing off a lots of spammers if they know it was you, haha. But really you read all 100 pages replies of that topic to figure out it is a spam?

I've encountered a post like this in the past and he is a member with a highest rank that a regular member can achieve. He is enrage since about thousand(s) or hundreds (not sure) of his post are deducted though the end point is that he don't really care about the forum or to the users (as what he is saying but not what he really meant) but for the signature campaign that he joined.

Anyway, as a user, especially if you really are good poster, then you shouldn't have posted in those trashy topics at the first place so you will not complain about your post reduced by a couple of number. I understand you, really understand, and get your point there and I think it is a nice suggestion but sometimes you need to delete those trashy topics even if it has a thousand of replies since it is totally "insubstantial."

I am trying to understand why you are saying that hilariousandco is contradicting himself. I don't see this in your post.


Either way, as a general rule, threads with replies will not be moved to the trashcan but will rather be locked. The reason for this is to allow for previous discussions to remain documented rather than hidden. The exception to this is for threads like altcoin giveaways in which no real discussion takes place. 

You're implying that gibberish is worth the bytes that it is occupying and should remain documented. What is really does is reduce the quality of content of this website.

Instead of talking about the only global moderator, you should be talking about the administration. If theymos wanted to, a major part of this problem could be solved within days. You need to convince him.

Trashed threads still occupying storage space.

Thanks for stating the obvious, genius. I've never implied that they don't.

Your welcome mate, if trashing occupies storage space then what is the other reason?

Where did I mention, in this thread, that trashing should be prioritized over outright deletion? Where did I mention trashing at all? Reeks of quick sig. spam in disguise. ::)

Well.
Decoded doesn't count posts with less than 275 characters, you are just being a dick/cunt/dildo. I was talking about threads being trashed, why trash

A thread? if the posts in it are useless they should be deleted. mods do this to make the forum more pleasant for people or just censoring information?

I think I got 275 in this post.

Irrelevant. You're spamming and disguising it as legitimate posts. I've seen enough of this in order to detect it.

I was not replying to you, yet you replied to me with an assumption that I was talking about your post.

If you want to imply or complain about censorship, then the door is right at the logout button.

Classic spammer. Wouldn't surprise me if you had more accounts. ::)

I'm also not in favor of trashcan if the topic already has more than 100 replies. It can be moved to Archival if a moderator thinks that the topic is spam and it should be stopped. It is my point of view and can't be taken as advice to mods. hiloriousandco is far experienced and I will be on his side and always respect and follow the decision taken by him. Although, Forum has their own set rules and no one can go beyond them.

Archival does not reduce post count, thus spammers will continue posting their bullshit as usual. Therefore, your suggestion is horrible.

Right. There should be consequences if you're to spam: any posts in insubstantial threads should be considered null and any activity associated with that should be much of the same. That way, you'll be able to curb a lot of spam because then farmers will find that they'll have to make genuine replies on real threads that don't have scores of pages of replies.

Sorry, I thought it only makes it disappear from members and doesn't do anything else while Archival keeps it for the public reading.
Does it also affect the potential activity of a member like if someone has a single post in an activity period and the thread got trashcan by mods?

If your post is gone then your activity is gone. I've already commented about this in my post above (#19). That's why deleting posts would be a good deterrent to preventing people from lifting the spam megathreads up, so that you can punish spammers for making generic shitty replies.

Hilariousandco is doing an awesome job with this.  Kiss your posts and activity goodbye if you shitpost.  Mprep also is doing a good job with the altcoin section, which is chronically a mess.

As has been stated, people are human and work at a human speed.  Just because something doesn't get deleted immediately doesn't mean it shouldn't ever, nor does it mean you're safe to post in mega spam threads.

I don't like your attitude, if I'm not getting paid for my posts, there is no sig. spam in disguise. you mentioned that it doesn't worth the bytes to keep them.

I said trashed threads are occupying those bytes. I had more than 7 of my posts trashed, I wasn't just spamming.

I guess you don't have to read all the reply to a topic to be considered insubstantial.  Even the moderator have enumerated low-quality topics which I replied just buy stated the topics which I recently replied to.  So just by reading the subject or topic or the thread title, you can know it already if the topic is insubstantial.  Because if you tried to read all their replies, you will be just reading shits....