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Title: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: fflojj on October 10, 2017, 08:35:41 AM
Hello everyone,

for example:
if I hold 1 BTC, it will stay as 1 BTC(core) after the fork? 
or
it will be splitted?  0.5 B2X(hard fork) and 0.5 BTC(core) for example

thanks


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: kangjiasg on October 10, 2017, 08:43:37 AM
you will get BTC gold. That is why BTC prices are strong and increasing now as many people are accumulating BTC


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: fflojj on October 10, 2017, 08:50:24 AM
where do I store my BTC before the fork?

Bitfinex, coinbase wallet who support the fork?
or
cold storage?


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: invitro on October 10, 2017, 08:51:31 AM
Store in your wallet.

You must have your private keys if you want to claim BTC Gold or other btc


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: Anthony1985 on October 10, 2017, 08:52:57 AM
where do I store my BTC before the fork?

Bitfinex, coinbase wallet who support the fork?
or
cold storage?

I suggest you to store it on your own wallet where you control the private key, so you can redeem the BTC Gold straight away.


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: achow101 on October 10, 2017, 03:02:57 PM
for example:
if I hold 1 BTC, it will stay as 1 BTC(core) after the fork? 
or
it will be splitted?  0.5 B2X(hard fork) and 0.5 BTC(core) for example
You will have 1 BTC and 1 B2X after the fork. Note that B2X (segwit2x coin) is not the same as Bitcoin Gold which is a different altcoin that has different parameters and is forking at a different time.


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: coinrobin on October 10, 2017, 03:41:22 PM
It'll be the same as the last fork. More free coins.

But the repeated forking feels like a giant scam. They just forked like 3 months ago.


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: Kprawn on October 10, 2017, 04:01:33 PM
Hello everyone,

for example:
if I hold 1 BTC, it will stay as 1 BTC(core) after the fork? 
or
it will be splitted?  0.5 B2X(hard fork) and 0.5 BTC(core) for example

thanks

Nah, you do not have to worry about your BTC getting halved or that it will somehow be reduced to create these other coins.

I think there are a lot of people who are getting this wrong and are totally confused with all the FUD that are being spread.

Your original bitcoins are safe, just keep the private key secret and wait for the fork. After the fork, you will have coins from

the new fork too... You can sell or keep those coins, if you have sole control over your private key. Some people store their

bitcoins in services where these services have control over your private key and they can decide what they want to do with

those forked coins.  ::)


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: xiboothrezi on October 10, 2017, 09:47:28 PM
for example:
if I hold 1 BTC, it will stay as 1 BTC(core) after the fork? 
or
it will be splitted?  0.5 B2X(hard fork) and 0.5 BTC(core) for example
You will have 1 BTC and 1 B2X after the fork. Note that B2X (segwit2x coin) is not the same as Bitcoin Gold which is a different altcoin that has different parameters and is forking at a different time.
is there an official announcement about it? or still predictions? many dear friends are arguing about it. fear of happening things that are not wanted. so my friends exchange in fiat in part, and some others remain in btc.


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: miguelborges99 on October 10, 2017, 11:21:14 PM
Anyone suggest a personal wallet software?


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: achow101 on October 11, 2017, 12:04:00 AM
is there an official announcement about it? or still predictions? many dear friends are arguing about it. fear of happening things that are not wanted. so my friends exchange in fiat in part, and some others remain in btc.
Official announcement of what? That segwit2x is going to happen? Or that the coin distribution will be like that? For the latter, it is guaranteed to happen because that is the nature of hard forks.


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: jwiz168 on October 11, 2017, 02:04:45 AM
I am just as confuse of this bitcoin forking. Last August we had a segwit fork for bitcoin and just recent weeks another forking rumor spreads and now this November. What is the real date of implementation of these forks? How would it benefit the bitcoin community?


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: rjbtc2017 on October 11, 2017, 08:33:52 AM
Hello everyone,

for example:
if I hold 1 BTC, it will stay as 1 BTC(core) after the fork? 
or
it will be splitted?  0.5 B2X(hard fork) and 0.5 BTC(core) for example

thanks
Hi, You should read other replies, to summarize it.
If you hold 1 BTC, 1 BTC will stay at your wallet. AFTER the FORK. You will still have your 1 BTC and you will gain another Coin with the same amount of your BTC which is another altcoin from the Fork.

                                         
                                        / >1 BTC
1 BTC ----AFTER THE FORK <
                                        \ >1 B2X

You will just get your B2X (after hardfork coin) if you have your own Private key. That's why some of the bitcoin holders cannot redeem their Altcoins from hardfork is because their bitcoin is in exchanges and they do not have their own private key. So keep your private key and make sure your bitcoins is not in exchanges.


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: kernighan on October 11, 2017, 09:32:38 AM
Yes, I agree to always keep your BTC in wallet so as to keep your own Private key, but choose wallet wisely.

When BCC split, I store BTC in multibit HD, which could not export private key. It took me lots time to find way got my BCC/BCH.

exchange are centralized way to store your BTC, if you believe exchange (as you store BTC there) and exchange commit to fund you B2X as they do for BCC/BCH, you may choose by your own to trust or not.


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: yasher on October 11, 2017, 09:40:42 AM
I will be just storing my coin in Freebitco.in, during the previous fork I have received bitcoin cash from them equivalent to the amount of bitcoin I have stored in that site but the only problem was that you can't withdraw it and the only option was to exchange it to btc.


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: onurgozupek on October 11, 2017, 09:44:45 AM
If you keep your coins on a wallet which you have the private keys or any exchange which declares support to the new coin will let you own the same amount of the new crypto currency. If you are using a desktop/hardware or online wallet it will be little bit struggling because you will have to export your private key and import to a new software which syncs the new blockchain. But most exchange will support the new coin and will let you have the same amount.

And don't forget, the new currency will be an altcoin. Bitcoin will still remain as Bitcoin.


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: xFiber on October 11, 2017, 12:42:38 PM
As mentioned multiple times already, you will have 1 BTC on one chain and 1 2X coin on the other chain.
I also have a question that might be relevant for this topic.
So if I were to send x amount of coin, on the main chain (so not the 2x chain), from wallet A to B would I be vulnerable for a replay attack? Or does the treat only apply when I send a transaction from my 'copied' wallet to another on the 2x chain?


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: shikakams on October 11, 2017, 01:39:57 PM
If I store my Bitcoin on Bittrex, this is not working ?


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: Samarkand on October 11, 2017, 02:53:32 PM
If I store my Bitcoin on Bittrex, this is not working ?

This depends on how Bittrex handles the SegWit2x hard fork. As of now they have not
clarified their position on the upcoming hard fork.

However, I speculate that they will credit users with both coins in the case of a split.
They did the same with the Bitcoin Cash hard fork:
Quote
If you have a Bitcoin (BTC) balance on Bittrex during the BCC UAHF time on August 1st, 5:20am PT (12:20pm UTC), you will be additionally credited the equivalent amount of Bitcoin Cash (BCC) on a 1:1 basis. i.e. 1 BTC on Bittrex held during the on-exchange snapshot will get you 1 BCC.  BTC held on orders will also be credited.  Only the BTC held on your account is eligible for BCC.

If you want to be really sure that you are ready for the fork, withdraw your BTC from Bittrex and take control of
your private keys. By doing this you might also be able to take advantage of the Bitcoin Gold hard fork if the hard fork
is actually going to happen.


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: xianbits on October 11, 2017, 03:02:17 PM
is there an official announcement about it? or still predictions? many dear friends are arguing about it. fear of happening things that are not wanted. so my friends exchange in fiat in part, and some others remain in btc.
Official announcement of what? That segwit2x is going to happen? Or that the coin distribution will be like that? For the latter, it is guaranteed to happen because that is the nature of hard forks.
I think he is referring to the official announcement of the new bitcoin fork as I am too wants to read everything about it. As far as I know, only those with at least 1Btc will have the same amount of the fork coin for free? Also, I thought Bitcoin Gold is the new fork? I have read that it is only an altcoin, so what will be the name of the newest bitcoin fork?


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: harizen on October 11, 2017, 03:13:53 PM
I am just as confuse of this bitcoin forking. Last August we had a segwit fork for bitcoin and just recent weeks another forking rumor spreads and now this November. What is the real date of implementation of these forks? How would it benefit the bitcoin community?

Like mentioned above by achow101, it was guaranteed to happen because that is the nature of hard forks.

What it would benefit the community? Well a modified one is different to the current structure of bitcoin so there will be new implementations. But honestly, the main purpose of majority here is the "free money" that will get from this fork. Well just follow updates at any search result you will see via Google.


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: J. Cooper on October 11, 2017, 06:32:31 PM
I am just as confuse of this bitcoin forking. Last August we had a segwit fork for bitcoin and just recent weeks another forking rumor spreads and now this November. What is the real date of implementation of these forks? How would it benefit the bitcoin community?

Like mentioned above by achow101, it was guaranteed to happen because that is the nature of hard forks.

What it would benefit the community? Well a modified one is different to the current structure of bitcoin so there will be new implementations. But honestly, the main purpose of majority here is the "free money" that will get from this fork. Well just follow updates at any search result you will see via Google.
If I'm not mistaken this time around there's no replay protection so you're transactions on the 'new' chain can be rebroadcasted on the main chain. It is free money but this fork comes with a great risk. A risk I'm not willing to take.
But besides the fact that you get 'free money' do you think that 2x will have a future?


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: stunvn on October 12, 2017, 11:04:44 AM
Depends.

Most exchanges will do the split.

But some websites that supports Segwit2x. Your 1 BTC will be converted to 1 B2X. Instead of  split in to 1 BTC and 1  B2X.


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: Spendulus on October 12, 2017, 11:53:27 AM
for example:
if I hold 1 BTC, it will stay as 1 BTC(core) after the fork? 
or
it will be splitted?  0.5 B2X(hard fork) and 0.5 BTC(core) for example
You will have 1 BTC and 1 B2X after the fork. Note that B2X (segwit2x coin) is not the same as Bitcoin Gold which is a different altcoin that has different parameters and is forking at a different time.

How would that play out if you use Trezor?


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: Norilsk on October 12, 2017, 12:34:54 PM
Depends.

Most exchanges will do the split.

But some websites that supports Segwit2x. Your 1 BTC will be converted to 1 B2X. Instead of  split in to 1 BTC and 1  B2X.
Converted?  I think you will just have B2X too.


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: nioschka on October 12, 2017, 12:43:36 PM
where do I store my BTC before the fork?

Bitfinex, coinbase wallet who support the fork?
or
cold storage?

I suggest you to store it on your own wallet where you control the private key, so you can redeem the BTC Gold straight away.
And what exactly will happen if you store it in the exchange? I'm new in this one (wasn't here for the last fork - that much new) but I do understand the whole blockchain tech and the "fork" duplicating of the chain in accordance to the snapshot taken at a precise moment. Does it mean that only exchanges that use real addresses for the users' wallets will be "snapshot" during the fork, but only those who decide to list the newly created currency on their market will provide their users with new wallets (with the duplicated addresses) in which they will be able to see their new currency? Or these newly created wallets for the new currency will have no connection to the addresses of the existing users' BTC wallets, so they won't be able to get access to their funds (that still exist at the address on the new chain, but could be approached only by the stuff of the exchange)? Thanks!


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: willmer01 on October 12, 2017, 04:23:07 PM
Bitcoin price is skyrocketing bcoz of the hardfork.. hodl btc for btg


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: Karimeen on October 13, 2017, 03:09:51 AM
         

          If some one is holding the BTC  to the november fork naturally  he will get his original 1BTC+1B2X. The bitcoin net work mostly upgrade to include new rules to support more people and more transactions per second. A fork in bitcoin terms, is when two different blockchains emerges. The bitcoins will not be at risk, it depends on where you store your bitcoin. If you store your funds in Athena bitcoin app, then you will be safe. your user name and password should be stored securely. It is better not to store your bitcoin in the exchange or web site.


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: Jombitt on October 13, 2017, 03:35:29 AM
Hello everyone,

for example:
if I hold 1 BTC, it will stay as 1 BTC(core) after the fork? 
or
it will be splitted?  0.5 B2X(hard fork) and 0.5 BTC(core) for example

thanks

If you are holding 1btc you will get 1bitcoin gold as well. You will get the same amount of your current btc during fork. But i am not sure if some exchanges will also implement this so its better keep your bitcoin in your wallet . Read some articles here https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/b2x-bitcoin-exchange-bitfinex-reveals-ticker-for-segwit2x-fork/


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: aencarnaci on October 13, 2017, 07:04:52 AM
Not a damn thing. You may get snowed down in BS, but that is normal here. There is at least one more fake direct fork coming, as you know and some minor changes to the code itself, so there is going to be talk and rumors, just keep your head down and ignore those guys and you will be fine.


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: TheBoyld on October 13, 2017, 07:18:09 AM
If I store my Bitcoin on Bittrex, this is not working ?

Anyone knows how Kraken is handling bitcoins which are stored on the exchange itself?


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: Emularea on October 13, 2017, 06:00:20 PM
How this will work with a ledger hard wallet, because you can't extract your private key as I read?


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: danielgold20 on October 13, 2017, 08:21:46 PM
It will be like with BCH same thing


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: francesyrus on October 17, 2017, 05:45:46 AM
Hello everyone,

for example:
if I hold 1 BTC, it will stay as 1 BTC(core) after the fork? 
or
it will be splitted?  0.5 B2X(hard fork) and 0.5 BTC(core) for example

thanks

I just receive an e-mail from qoinpro.com and it says that when you have 1BTC you can have 1 Bitcoin Gold after the fork. Here is the explanation from qoinpro.com about the coming fork....

What is Bitcoin Gold?
Bitcoin Gold is a friendly dividend hard-fork of Bitcoin that intents to solve miner centralization through a proof-of-work change. They’re going to use the memory-hard ASIC resistant Equihash algorithm also used by ZCash. The idea is to give mining power back to the users using CPUs and GPUs to mine. Secondly it is intended as a testing ground for new features that may or may not end up in the Bitcoin network.
 
How can I claim my Bitcoin Gold?
Simply deposit any amount to your QoinPro wallet and send "Claim Bitcoin Gold” to support@qoinpro.com. There is no minimum and no maximum.
 
When should I deposit the Bitcoin?
As soon as possible, and no later than October 24, 2017. BTG claims are handled in the order they are received. Anybody claiming Bitcoin Gold before October 19 will automatically receive three star upgrades (more daily BTG) starting October 25.
 
There is no minimum and there is no maximum. However, if you are going to deposit more than 10 BTC, please let us know in advance.
 
How much does Bitcoin Gold cost?
Obtaining Bitcoin Gold through a Bitcoin based claim is free-of-charge, simply deposit your Bitcoin. For example if you have 2.7 Bitcoin before the fork, you will have 2.7 Bitcoin and 2.7 Bitcoin Gold after the fork.
 
When are claims processed?
The fork is scheduled for October 25, 2017. Three days after the fork, we will start processing Bitcoin Gold claims in the order they were received. The reason we wait three days is to ensure we are on the right chain and both deposits and withdrawals can be handled automatically.
 
How much Bitcoin Gold will I get?
You will get 1 Bitcoin Gold (BTG) for every 1 Bitcoin deposited, so if you deposit 0.53 BTC, you will get 0.53 BTG.
 
When can I withdraw my BTC and BTG again?
Unlike Bitcoin Cash (Which we distributed post-fork), this will be mostly automatic. After your claim has been processed you can withdraw the Bitcoin again.
 
Withdrawing Bitcoin Gold is possible as soon as the Bitcoin Gold team has released a wallet that we can implement (currently scheduled for early November).
 
Alternatively, you can leave them there for the next fork.
 
What is the next fork and when is it scheduled?
The next scheduled fork is called Bitcoin Segwit2X or B2X for short. It is not 100% certain this fork will happen, but if it does it will be on November 18 and QoinPro will support it. More information will follow closer to the date.
 
What is the minimum or maximum I can deposit/claim?
There is no minimum or maximum amount you can deposit.



Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: golekcepot on October 18, 2017, 03:46:13 PM
If I store my Bitcoin on Bittrex, this is not working ?
It's true that your money will is frozen like an iceberg. Because, bittrex is just a wallet, not a mining or trading place, you should take your btc from bittrex. Because (until now bitrek have not clarified their position on the next hard fork), take advantage of the existing btc to get fork, and use your private key.


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: kyrios_ on October 19, 2017, 03:52:16 PM
Gonna have to sit through some volatile times again. Anyone where i can read about the date of this fork? Heard alot of brief mention of a nov fork.. anyone has an article summarizing everything?


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: BillyBobZorton on October 19, 2017, 04:35:05 PM
I am just as confuse of this bitcoin forking. Last August we had a segwit fork for bitcoin and just recent weeks another forking rumor spreads and now this November. What is the real date of implementation of these forks? How would it benefit the bitcoin community?

Like mentioned above by achow101, it was guaranteed to happen because that is the nature of hard forks.

What it would benefit the community? Well a modified one is different to the current structure of bitcoin so there will be new implementations. But honestly, the main purpose of majority here is the "free money" that will get from this fork. Well just follow updates at any search result you will see via Google.

A lot of people new to bitcoin can't seem to understand the fact that anyone with enough hashrate to sustain a chain can hardfork bitcoin at any time. It is a "feature". Of course, one must ask what does that hardfork do that it's economically viable.

Thus far, looking at the price of the forks, the ideas of hardfork bitcoin have not been welcomed. I suspect BGold will be a dumpfork too since it doesn't do much. I don't believe they will be able to decentralize mining, since if people cared enough, they would develop ASIC for equihash and it would end up the same so it's pointless.

Segwit2x futures are also at all time lows. Another nonsensical fork hyped by corporate drones that will die out quick.

To sum it up: Hold Bitcoin and don't be the speculating idiot that dumps after the forks.


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: J. Cooper on October 19, 2017, 07:31:16 PM
I am just as confuse of this bitcoin forking. Last August we had a segwit fork for bitcoin and just recent weeks another forking rumor spreads and now this November. What is the real date of implementation of these forks? How would it benefit the bitcoin community?

Like mentioned above by achow101, it was guaranteed to happen because that is the nature of hard forks.

What it would benefit the community? Well a modified one is different to the current structure of bitcoin so there will be new implementations. But honestly, the main purpose of majority here is the "free money" that will get from this fork. Well just follow updates at any search result you will see via Google.

A lot of people new to bitcoin can't seem to understand the fact that anyone with enough hashrate to sustain a chain can hardfork bitcoin at any time. It is a "feature". Of course, one must ask what does that hardfork do that it's economically viable.

Thus far, looking at the price of the forks, the ideas of hardfork bitcoin have not been welcomed. I suspect BGold will be a dumpfork too since it doesn't do much. I don't believe they will be able to decentralize mining, since if people cared enough, they would develop ASIC for equihash and it would end up the same so it's pointless.

Segwit2x futures are also at all time lows. Another nonsensical fork hyped by corporate drones that will die out quick.

To sum it up: Hold Bitcoin and don't be the speculating idiot that dumps after the forks.
And that's exactly what I'm going to do. None of the forks that exist right now or will exist in the month or so will be able to overtake bitcoin in anyway.
I honestly just hope not too many people lose their coins due to the 2x attack. We've got some volatile times ahead but if you just hold on thight, and don't make stupid transactions that can potetially be replayed on another chain, there shouldn't be any problems.


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: Rebellious on October 20, 2017, 11:03:27 AM
You will get free Bitcoin Gold.


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: Sskapollo7 on October 22, 2017, 06:41:22 AM
Ofcourse you'll get BTC gold as their prices are strong


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: andyersata on October 24, 2017, 10:42:53 PM
Your coins wont be divided, you will just have the equivalent of the bitcoin you are hold in the ratio of 1:1


Title: Re: What will happen If I just hold my BTC (November fork)?
Post by: jakagintiri on October 25, 2017, 07:56:54 AM
you will get BTC gold. That is why BTC prices are strong and increasing now as many people are accumulating BTC
Well, you right. you will get free bitcoin gold. True to what I read on some sites, after having a hard fork there will be many possibilities that can happen, you can also lose all the bitcoin you have.