Bitcoin Forum

Hi. I have a client that lives on another side of the planet, in Argentina. He pays for my work via Paypal but it's expensive for me because of each paypal transaction costs and because of converting currencies from Argentinian pesos to USD to EURO. I just lose money  :-[. My client is not into bitcoins. How can i guide him to make him buy Bitcoins with Argentinian pesos (paying with credit card), in a way that he does it quickly and with no complications?

You could try to let him buy bitcoins through coinbase, but even then, he needs to verify his ID/passport, so if he already isn't interested, i think you're going to have a hard time with him buying it.

Even this is pretty complicated if you don't want to know how it works, and it surely isn't without complications.

Its going to be harder to convince someone specially if they do know bitcoin is going to be big in the next few years to come.  Same goes for someone who doesn't even know cryptocurrencies exist. For those who don't know anything about bitcoin, they would have to buy before they can give you salary which is something they prefer not doing. Why not just do it your self if you wanna own bitcoin.

Tell him future transactions that he can pay you in any way he likes but if it's in fiat, he needs to cover the fees. This way if he wants to pay Paypal, he can pay the fees. If he wants to do a bank deposit, he can pay the fees.

However, you're willing to pay the fees if he'll pay by Bitcoin.

Problem solved and you won't sound like you're being difficult.

Because i want to get paid in bitcoin to save paying Paypal's fees on each transaction.

The thing is that i am who pays the fees on paypal transactions, and i lose too much money with it. I can offer him some kind of discount for my services to motivate him to pay me with bitcoins.


Yet the difficult part will be to convince him to register with ID/Passport.  :-\

No, you tell him that if he pays in fiat, he will pay fees.

Example: He wants to pay by Paypal - he will now have to pay the fees. So if your charge is for EUR100, he will pay EUR100 PLUS the fee.

The discounted way is if he pays you in Bitcoin.

Generally you don't need id or passport, if you buy bitcoin via localbitcoins.com or paxful.com. Check here: https://www.buybitcoinworldwide.com/argentina/ https://localbitcoins.net/country/AR https://www.ripio.com/es/comprar-bitcoins-argentina/

Advantages of bitcoin vs paypal: Lower fees, payment cannot be seized or delayed, no third party

There are many guides (search google or youtube) about how to buy bitcoin with different websites and how to setup a bitcoin wallet.

If accepting BTC can help you save in fees, maybe you would like to provide some incentive to your clients for paying you in Bitcoin. For example a discount or some extra services.

I wouldn't bother myself.

If you don't like paying fees, your employer certainly won't like paying the type of premium somewhere like Argentina attracts either. Your work paid in BTC will end up costing him a lot more. He'll probably look to employ someone who costs less.

Sometimes it's better not to get the rest of the world to bend to your Bitcoin will.

Hi there, I hope you find the answer your looking for.
I would suggest asking yourself a few questions to see which would be the best route to take?
First off how long have you been in business? how good is your rapport? if your client trusts you simply let them know that this would be mutually beneficially, it would reduce overhead for you and as stated before in this post make it cheaper for the both of you in the long run. On the other side of things if this is a new business relationship wait until that trust is there before making the suggestion. Do you want to try and push someone in a direction when your relationship is brand new, ? how profitable is the relationship for the both of you? Could the fees be worth it at first until that rapport is built that the trust is mutual. If I was paying you good money for services at that point I would already trust you, and would most certainly be open to suggestions making our relationship more profitable for the both of us.

Good advice! We are working together for 2 years and he trust me.

Convince him to buy a bitcoin on coinbase and then he will understand that he can easily buy it and this make the employee happy like you will be.

Bitcoins are wildly popular in Argentina. Maybe, your client doesn't want to pay in btc because its better to HODL them than spend.

If that is not the case, then just tell him to signup and exchange and buy and send you bitcoins.

To add to my earlier point why are we in this all together for monetary gain (mostly) and to learn about something astounding that Is going to shape our future. TEACH him, nothing instills confidence more in something than knowing how to do it yourself. What is your time worth? are the fees your incurring on a regular basis worth your time as a professional to teach him? If not just like any project find what gives you the best Net Present Value, if you'd make more money handling the fees, if not take the time to help him understand. Find a tutorial (like the many on this website). Put something together that's simple to follow for beginners.  What is the growth rate of your book of business? Design something educate him, and potential future clients, this way when the time comes you're prepared to inform all of your clients on the benefits of this type of currency, ASAP!!!

You must tell him first all about what is bitcoin, what are thr benifits of using bitcoin, how bitcoin is easy to use, how famous is bitcoin in internet, you must tell him that while he is paying you in paypal, you dont get the salary you want and you need to change to the practical side which is bitcoin that pays lower taxes in exchanging than paypal.

If he/she doesn't want to go through the hassle of learning about bitcoin then creating a wallet then buying through exchanges to send them to you(as I don't think Coinbase supports Argentina correct me if I'm wrong), then just accept the PayPal funds, then transfer it to your bank, then use your bank funds to buy bitcoin. Simple. I don't think the PayPal fees are significant enough. I honestly wouldn't force my client to take time and learn about bitcoin for just enough knowledge on how to buy and send bitcoin safely and correctly if he/she really isn't interested.

Did you already tried to convince him before? If you tried and he didn't want it's because his mind is closed for new ideas (payment methods)... Be practical, just tell him: Via Paypal it's X+1, via Bitcoin it's X-1. It's not necessary to explain all the points of Bitcoin initially. Show the practice, explain the theory later.

Anyway, you won't have more profit by using Bitcoins as the price will decrease this way. It's advantage only for the buyer. But this way you can have many other customers attracted by your lower price... So this way you increase your personal profit.  :)

This would be so much easier for you if he was already using bitcoin. I think once more people start to see the ease of sending bitcoin like this example the more will use it. If he isn't interested then there isn't much you can do.

easier way is always to give your client a special discount if he/she pays you with bitcoin :)

You can teach he/she to buy bitcoin using paypal from trusted site , then you teach he/she to send u using bitcoin.
Tell to he/she exchange from USD to EURO its bad method because i lost too much money , maybe u can using bitcoin for best payment for me , low fees , secured . and fast transaction.
Just tell u reason to he/she , maybe her can understand with ur reason to choose bitcoin for best payment for you.  ::)

There's a possibility to use some quick service for bank card owners. If he uses dollars, it's really fast to exchange and transfer cryptocurrencies

https://www.bestchange.com

Fouce on fee and global use because this is main reason for use bitcoin for me at least

You ask him to submit your pay via an ACH transaction to a bank account. The bank account will be owned by a company called Bit Wage and then they will convert your pay to Bitcoin (or Litecoin or Ether) and submit it to your wallet.

Bitwage. (https://worker.bitwage.com/)

How Freelance using Bitwage. (https://blog.bitwage.com/2016/03/21/how-to-freelance-the-ultimate-guide/)

Good luck to you!

I think this might be a good idea,, incentives will motivate your client to fullfill your demand to pay with bitcoin. Once it is a succeed, it will be easier for your client to repeat the payment in bitcoin ~

In the future, when taking on clients you should make it clear how you want to be paid,
that way it doesn't seem like you're pulling unnecessary complications out of thin air.
Paypal really is the worst, I feel your pain. Good luck!

It's very easy to convince your client to pay you in bitcoin, unless he or she is reluctant about the whole idea of bitcoin. Although, at the end of the day it's your salary, he or she will not be the one to use it. So, try telling him or her that.

ha ha ha ha ha it is very easy to inconveniencing.  first you keep few offers for your customers. and attract them. next try to convince them to giving bit coins. you have to say them you are taking money only in the bit coin form. so then they have no choice to giving money. it is really very good idea for impressing customers. hey seriously i have to try on my customers.

Convincing your client to pay you in bitcoin most especially when he is not into bitcoin might be difficult.
But one way i think you can convince him, is by rending him a service and asking him to pay less, only on the term that he uses bitcoin to make the transaction.

Give him a discount if he pays by discount, at the very least with the rising value of bitcoin, you'll win out in the end sooner or later in the future.

This is extremely difficult, since he will then lose money on commissions, but he needs it. And why did you choose Paypal with the biggest commission that is. Previously, it was necessary to negotiate how payments would be made. but now hardly you will succeed.

Well, you have to ask your client first if he uses bitcoins because if not, he will not bother buying bitcoins using his or her money just to pay you. But if he or she does, you have to insist.

Try to show him merits of doing transaction in bitcoins as if he buy bitcoins and if the price of bitcoins increases before he pays you then he will get profit doing it also he can trade those bitcoins to make extra profit.