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Title: Is USB ASIC mining worth it?
Post by: Capitalism Prevails on June 05, 2013, 06:21:54 AM
Is the mining difficulty so high that these devices won't pay for themselves?


Title: Re: Is USB ASIC mining worth it?
Post by: Preschoolv2 on June 05, 2013, 06:29:47 AM
Of course not.  Do the math and youll see its pointless.


Title: Re: Is USB ASIC mining worth it?
Post by: RiseOfTH on June 05, 2013, 08:17:23 AM
Where can get more info on USB ASIC miner?


Title: Re: Is USB ASIC mining worth it?
Post by: J35st3r on June 05, 2013, 08:27:10 AM
Is the mining difficulty so high that these devices won't pay for themselves?

Its not the current difficulty that counts. If it stayed the same you'd get your BTC back in 200 days.

But it won't stay the same, so how to you rate your crystal ball?

Have a play with http://coinish.com/calc (NB use expert mode to see the effect of increase in difficulty), and take a look at these threads https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=81.0


Title: Re: Is USB ASIC mining worth it?
Post by: KizunaAikawa on June 05, 2013, 08:31:15 AM
they are pretty much novelty items at this point


Title: Re: Is USB ASIC mining worth it?
Post by: rumbitla on June 05, 2013, 08:35:53 AM
For 1 BTC they would be nice.


Title: Re: Is USB ASIC mining worth it?
Post by: rn4j0r on June 05, 2013, 10:15:48 AM
They basically are only good for helping get new people interested/familiar with bitcoin.

They cant mine anything really.


Title: Re: Is USB ASIC mining worth it?
Post by: r.freeman on June 05, 2013, 10:19:36 AM
Is the mining difficulty so high that these devices won't pay for themselves?

Check hashrate of the devices from wiki, calculate expected btc/month $/month, calculate power usage and get the profit.
Assume profit will be lowering each week a bit since increasing difficulty.


Title: Re: Is USB ASIC mining worth it?
Post by: pawelek on June 05, 2013, 11:58:16 AM
If you want you can take one unit and test it )


Title: Re: Is USB ASIC mining worth it?
Post by: falkspearl on June 05, 2013, 12:08:56 PM
1.So if i want to spend a quite small amount of money on mining rig, what should I be interested in? I mean that the cost of the purchase should be around 2-3 graphics cards.
2. Is USB ASIC mining worth some cash when one mines alternate cryptocurrencies?


Title: Re: Is USB ASIC mining worth it?
Post by: chncoinsavior on June 05, 2013, 12:16:21 PM
no


Title: Re: Is USB ASIC mining worth it?
Post by: excavator on June 05, 2013, 12:26:13 PM
If you want you can take one unit and test it )

Can someone please add a link to these usb devices? I saw some discussion here some time ago but at that point theye were not selling them one unit at a time, one had to order something like a thousand units at least AFAI remembe...r


Title: Re: Is USB ASIC mining worth it?
Post by: J35st3r on June 05, 2013, 12:39:02 PM
If you want you can take one unit and test it )

Can someone please add a link to these usb devices? I saw some discussion here some time ago but at that point theye were not selling them one unit at a time, one had to order something like a thousand units at least AFAI remembe...r


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=195004.msg2025318#msg2025318 but there are group buys (go up a level into custom hardware threads).

NowNOT worth it IMHO, but its your call. Do the math on the ROI.

[Edit] after all I've been bleating on about the last couple of days. I put in a typo that contradicts myself. Sigh.  :(
It might be worth it at 1.0 BTC, but not 2.0 BTC


Title: Re: Is USB ASIC mining worth it?
Post by: JaSK on June 05, 2013, 12:56:33 PM
It's probably a convenient way of mining at work ^^


Title: Re: Is USB ASIC mining worth it?
Post by: treybird510 on June 05, 2013, 02:32:00 PM
Found it on this website, on here its 1.40 BTC (Don't know how you do that fancy shit with the sign and all)
http://www.asicgigahash.com/product/k1-nano/
But its one of them pre-order bullshits, don't know if its as long as lets say BFL or something.


Title: Re: Is USB ASIC mining worth it?
Post by: J35st3r on June 05, 2013, 02:40:53 PM
Found it on this website, on here its 1.40 BTC (Don't know how you do that fancy shit with the sign and all)
http://www.asicgigahash.com/product/k1-nano/
But its one of them pre-order bullshits, don't know if its as long as lets say BFL or something.

Beware of scams. This is the official Klondike thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190731.0

As for that website, I'll get back to you once I've done some investigation ...
this is his announcement https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=214125.0;all BEWARE it looks very SCAMMY to me.

Use the group buys on the custom hardware board https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=76.0 not some random website.


Title: Re: Is USB ASIC mining worth it?
Post by: treybird510 on June 05, 2013, 10:32:54 PM
Found it on this website, on here its 1.40 BTC (Don't know how you do that fancy shit with the sign and all)
http://www.asicgigahash.com/product/k1-nano/
But its one of them pre-order bullshits, don't know if its as long as lets say BFL or something.

Beware of scams. This is the official Klondike thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190731.0

As for that website, I'll get back to you once I've done some investigation ...
this is his announcement https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=214125.0;all BEWARE it looks very SCAMMY to me.

Use the group buys on the custom hardware board https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=76.0 not some random website.

Okay cool, thanks buddy.


Title: Re: Is USB ASIC mining worth it?
Post by: stompysteve on June 05, 2013, 10:40:52 PM
yea that doesnt look legit


Title: Re: Is USB ASIC mining worth it?
Post by: treybird510 on June 06, 2013, 01:03:42 AM
I'm having trouble finding where I can buy these little devils. Other than that asicgigahash website.
Could I get a link to that thread?


Title: Re: Is USB ASIC mining worth it?
Post by: cale on June 06, 2013, 01:13:32 AM
I'm having trouble finding where I can buy these little devils. Other than that asicgigahash website.
Could I get a link to that thread?
you can find them on ebay. but its not 1.4 btc there


Title: Re: Is USB ASIC mining worth it?
Post by: J35st3r on June 06, 2013, 01:22:36 AM
I'm having trouble finding where I can buy these little devils. Other than that asicgigahash website.
Could I get a link to that thread?

Umm, I gave it to you https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190731.0

Yes its hard to find the best deal, but you're pretty much on your own there, just jump into the mosh pit https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=76.0 n

Bitcoin isn't free money, Its more like raw anarchism (with a kindly god looking over it). Satoshi, the ultimate Deist God sets it in motion, then steps out for a cup of tea, while we mortals get on with the nitty gritty for a few millenia to prove the concept, Then at the second coming ... sorry that's another thread (out of context problem) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=221411.0


Title: Re: Is USB ASIC mining worth it?
Post by: treybird510 on June 06, 2013, 01:59:55 AM
I'm having trouble finding where I can buy these little devils. Other than that asicgigahash website.
Could I get a link to that thread?

Umm, I gave it to you https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190731.0

Yes its hard to find the best deal, but you're pretty much on your own there, just jump into the mosh pit https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=76.0 n

Bitcoin isn't free money, Its more like raw anarchism (with a kindly god looking over it). Satoshi, the ultimate Deist God sets it in motion, then steps out for a cup of tea, while we mortals get on with the nitty gritty for a few millenia to prove the concept, Then at the second coming ... sorry that's another thread (out of context problem) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=221411.0

Didn't mean to spit in your face about the link sorry, I was thinking about another thread on the same subject that was a in depth tutorial on how to buy the USB from a user on the forum.


Title: Re: Is USB ASIC mining worth it?
Post by: J35st3r on June 06, 2013, 09:57:22 AM
Didn't mean to spit in your face about the link sorry, I was thinking about another thread on the same subject that was a in depth tutorial on how to buy the USB from a user on the forum.

No offence taken, you need a thick skin to post on these threads. I'm having a ball  ;D


Title: Re: Is USB ASIC mining worth it?
Post by: benm on June 06, 2013, 10:58:30 AM
I don't think it's worth it at the current price for the ASICMINER usb miners, given the current difficulty. Give AM some time and the prices may drop since the marginal cost of making the miners has to be pretty low - then it may be profitable to run a few of them again.


Title: Re: Is USB ASIC mining worth it?
Post by: jjpotter on June 06, 2013, 11:13:42 AM
I can only imaging what is going to happen when all the KnCMiner ASIC's hit the market and are mining away...


Title: Re: Is USB ASIC mining worth it?
Post by: Wotan777 on June 06, 2013, 11:14:26 AM
At wtcr.ca it is 2.19 BTC + shipping
At bitmit.net it is also 2.19 BTC + shipping


Title: Re: Is USB ASIC mining worth it?
Post by: artos on June 06, 2013, 02:40:03 PM
It's a negative ROI.


Title: Re: Is USB ASIC mining worth it?
Post by: dbuthay on June 06, 2013, 03:33:52 PM
It's a negative ROI.

+1

I'd stick with a GPU instead of a USB stick.

If BTC tanks, you can still sell the GPU and get some of your money back. I don't see anyone willing to pay anything close to today's fiat value of a USB stick if BTC tanks.

It's a different story with full blown ASICs, where the ROI is (hopefully) less than a month.