Title: Don't use Monbux's "Automatic System"! Post by: johntrichfield on October 12, 2017, 02:33:04 AM Main Points:
If someone says to use the Monbux "automatic email system" as escrow, they are a scammer! Make sure to contact Monbux directly! A user and I were making a deal over .08 btc. He said we should ask Monbux to be our escrow, as he's the most trusted escrow on this forum (and he probably is). I told him that Monbux would charge .01 btc to escrow it, so in reply, he told me that he would cover escrow fees. This kind of stuck to me, because he was very adamant on the price, and by covering that fee, it would've almost been a 1:1 preev exchange on his side. He then proceeded to tell me we should use Monbux's "automatic email system". He acted incredulous after I asked him what it was, and how to use it. "You don't know what the monbux's automatic email system is?!" <- that kind of thing. He ended up explaining that to use the automatic email system, I had to post what I needed escrow'ed, and my email, on Monbux's topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631008.0. So I did. Then a couple minutes after I posted, I received an email from freedomose@gmail.com, as I was told. And realize, this is just a minute or two. Here's what the email said: I’ve Spoken to the user and secured the 0.08 Btc and the escrow fees, please go ahead and send the amazon giftcards. Thanks, Monbux That's when it finally dawned on me that he was a scammer. He'd gotten my email when I'd posted it, and sent me that message himself. It also stands to reason why he said he'd pay for escrow fees, when he was so adamant on the price to begin with. I will update with proof tomorrow, and the whole conversation, as it is getting very late. Title: Re: Almost Scammed by Danos! Don't use Monbux's "Automatic System"! Post by: pinkman12345 on October 12, 2017, 02:48:25 AM Monbux is a reliable and one of the trsuted escrow on this site. Until unless you hear adirect reply from him assume that youhave been negotiating with a impersonator.
Title: Re: Almost Scammed by Danos! Don't use Monbux's "Automatic System"! Post by: Laravel on October 12, 2017, 06:36:09 AM Thanks for letting us know. It is very absurd to believe this "automatic email system". It's like transacting to a freelance site with automatic granting for payment but in this situation with a person (monbux), not a site LOL. Scammers really never sleep to think ways to fool other people and to steal their money.
Title: Re: Almost Scammed by Danos! Don't use Monbux's "Automatic System"! Post by: Danos on October 12, 2017, 01:01:54 PM Thanks for for finding this bullshit.
Do you mind share with us how did i tried to scam you, where and how ? Don't forget to complete this to make the scammer report proper -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260073.0 Also, please, next time when you try to point someone with bad words and notepad story's, at least connect them with some proofs. Not really care about your bullshits because they are already in dead end. Looking forward to see your proper scam report ofc proof based. Title: Re: Almost Scammed by Danos! Don't use Monbux's "Automatic System"! Post by: Lauda on October 12, 2017, 04:23:34 PM Code: [b][color=black]What happened:: [/color][/b] He said we should ask Monbux to be our escrow, as he's the most trusted escrow on this forum (and he probably is). He is not, and he is often very inactive.He then proceeded to tell me we should use Monbux's "automatic email system". Avoid any kind of "automatic" systems when it comes to escrowing and money in general.Do you mind share with us how did i tried to scam you, where and how ? Assuming that this was you:Then a couple minutes after I posted, I received an email from freedomose@gmail.com, as I was told. And realize, this is just a minute or two. Here's what the email said: I’ve Spoken to the user Danos and secured the 0.08 Btc and the escrow fees, please go ahead and send the amazon giftcards. Thanks, Monbux Title: Re: Almost Scammed by Danos! Don't use Monbux's "Automatic System"! Post by: Danos on October 12, 2017, 05:07:36 PM As i requested above, please, show us how and when i tried to scam you, what the "escrow" emailed you, and how everything is connected with me.
Can't wait to see it! Please, make sure you do it before 2020. Edit: Lauda, how im freedomose@gmail.com ? or freedomose@gmail.com was the escrow he emailed him? or that's the OP email? This is going more and more interesting but making no sense. I hope the OP will provide some proof based story. Edit2: Now i read that you received email from that freedomose. Do you mind explain me, how that email freedomose is connected with monbux or me somehow? Do you mind show us screenshot of the email please? Do you mind show us the connection between me, monbux, and this email. Do you mind show us where and how i told you to request escrow? You just put blablabla and don't show us nothing as proof... I beg you, please, show us. Title: Re: Almost Scammed by Danos! Don't use Monbux's "Automatic System"! Post by: Laravel on October 12, 2017, 07:48:16 PM After reading again the topic, I realized that there is a chance an unknown person may pretend that he's monbux since the email is publicly available on monbux's thread and anyone can send an email to OP.
Then if OP knew that it's a scam email, the prime suspect will be no other than Danos, the buyer. Worst scenario, you two are fighting while the real culprit is eating popcorns and having fun reading your stories. Posting your pm screenshots or granting any trusted member to check the authenticity of the messages will be a good way to fix this problem. Title: Re: Almost Scammed by Danos! Don't use Monbux's "Automatic System"! Post by: Danos on October 12, 2017, 08:08:48 PM After reading again the topic, I realized that there is a chance an unknown person may pretend that he's monbux since the email is publicly available on monbux's thread and anyone can send an email to OP. I will be more than happy to see the OP evidences against me.Then if OP knew that it's a scam email, the prime suspect will be no other than Danos, the buyer. Worst scenario, you two are fighting while the real culprit is eating popcorns and having fun reading your stories. Posting your pm screenshots or granting any trusted member to check the authenticity of the messages will be a good way to fix this problem. Consider there would be none, that would be interesting. Not sure what the case is because im not really aware how im connected with the email above, monbux or this guy at all. The only pm i exchanged with this guy was a question about his sales and how someone can contact him. But consider his contact details are public, yeah, you maybe right. Title: Re: Almost Scammed by Danos! Don't use Monbux's "Automatic System"! Post by: johntrichfield on October 12, 2017, 11:26:03 PM Sorry for not posting in the right scam accusation format. I will edit after I make this post. Anyway, here's the entire conversation. Quentin Thornton is me, and live:limegp is Danos. Before you read it though, I'm going to answer some questions.
Laravel: I considered this option also, but there's a very, very tiny chance this is true. If you read through the conversation, Danos was very adamant on the price, and as soon as I proved to him Monbux charged a fee, he immediately said he'd cover it (a $53 dollar fee to mention, which would mean it was a 1:1 preev exhange, with gift cards) Also, not only that, the email said he'd talked with Danos, and that the .08 btc was "secured", only 1 minute or so after I posted my email. Just enough time to write up the email and send it (I've attached a screenshot of the email). Not only does all this evidence point towards Danos being the scammer, but I want to know where he found this "automatic escrow system" if he really wasn't scamming. I've seen Monbux's page, and it's not mentioned anywhere, so how the heck would Danos know about this "automatic escrow system" if he didn't make it up himself? Now, with all that out of the way, Danos, if you really weren't trying to scam me, and you could prove it, I will quickly retract the comment I made on your trust, and I will leave you with my utmost apologies. Otherwise, all evidence points toward you being a scammer. Link to screenshots: https://imgur.com/a/zwLNR Email: Code: I’ve Spoken to the user Danos and secured the 0.08 Btc and the escrow fees, please go ahead and send the amazon giftcards. Skype Conversation: Code: [10/11/2017 6:07:25 AM] Quentin Thornton: Who's this? Title: Re: Almost Scammed by Danos! Don't use Monbux's "Automatic System"! Post by: johntrichfield on October 12, 2017, 11:39:18 PM The only pm i exchanged with this guy was a question about his sales and how someone can contact him. Then let's contact Monbux to see if it's true. Also, how did the emailer know we were exhanging .08 btc? In my post I said .085 btc, not .08. The only way they'd know this we were exchanging .08 btc, is if they were working with you, or if you are him. Title: Re: Almost Scammed by Danos! Don't use Monbux's "Automatic System"! Post by: Danos on October 12, 2017, 11:44:52 PM I have few questions and i can't wait your answers!
Who the hell is freedomose and how he is connected with me? How's that me but not just a random guy who saw your email on monbux thread ? What is that skype conversation and who is limegp ? How he's connected with me, or if you saying that's me somehow, where this skype is noted as mine or me saying anywhere you can contact me on it or anything like that? As i read your claim that limegp is me, do you mind show us how did you contact me with some random skype name ? Also do you think if i were going to do anything wrong using someone famous name, i won't do research especially when i can read and see monbox email noted on his thread ? Your claims and "proofs" making me laugh... They make no sense and no connection at all. In fact, if there was "automatic system" as the guy from the skype claim, how can someone with different email can claim that he already had anything from me (god knows how he contacted me so fast and received coins + confirmation from network) ? Instead of pointing that finger with your blind eyes, why don't you just start to think for a minute and realize that some random guys just trying to scam you. Also, i don't see a single evidence here against me, because you did not post anything against me. You posted once again some "skype conversation" notepad written, with some random (retard) if i can call him like that who trying to rob you + another not really smart retard sending you email right after you posted yours public claiming impossible things. If i were you... i would double check everything, feel ashamed and next time when you try to point someone.... Think.... I take your "utmost apologies" because im not an asshole. Edit: I don't know you were going to trade 0.001 or 0.085 or 0.01541 btc because you never talk with me... I hope you will understand that soon as possible. Not sure who you think that guy "limegp" on skype is, but for 1001% its not me. Moderator/Administrator is more than welcome to check my ip/country and match it what that retarded scamming skype (if that's not you, or that chat actually exists because you copy/paste something can be written on notepad). Once again... think before write... Neither monbux or me have contacted you, and you were dealing with random scammers around which is not anything new for the forum. Title: Re: Almost Scammed by Danos! Don't use Monbux's "Automatic System"! Post by: johntrichfield on October 12, 2017, 11:56:28 PM You asked for my skype, of course it was you through pm. Besides, how would anyone else know it? I've never given it out to anyone else before. Jk, but only to a select few, and I've never posted it anywhere public.
Also, you haven't answered my last question. If I contact Monbux, will he say he's been in contact with you? edit: you basically proved to me now, 100%, you're a scammer, by saying that it wasn't you on skype this whole time. Title: Re: Almost Scammed by Danos! Don't use Monbux's "Automatic System"! Post by: Danos on October 13, 2017, 12:00:25 AM You asked for my skype, of course it was you through pm. Besides, how would anyone else know it? I've never given it out to anyone else before. Jk, but only to a select few, and I've never posted it anywhere public. Dude, do you realize i ask for your skype and you posted some email, the same email you posted on the escrow thread, the same email you are using with another 12312312 users you trying to deal with your sales?Also, you haven't answered my last question. If I contact Monbux, will he say he's been in contact with you? Or im the only one you gaved your contact details consider your desperate search of getting bitcoins for your amazon.. Cmon.. :D Monbux cannot say he's been in contact me with me, because you were never in contact with me to agree using any escrow. Monbux, or anyone else from the official list.. And why you even trying to connect monbux consider i never requested him, i never was in contact/chat with you, and i never agreed on buying/dealing with you with or without escrow? Or you still keeping your claims that email or skype is mine ? Because i have registered email on my profile, and even the domain of it its not even close to the one you posted. It is impossible to contact me with any of those scamming jerks trying to rob you, because i don't know and i don't give a fuck who they are. I believe you are confused. Why don't you just take my advice, check everything again, double think and realize whats going on and then post. Edit: To answer your edit. Do you mind show me and us (the community) how this skype is connected with me ? Where did i noted it, where did i say that's my skype? I hope you can read above im more than willing to cooperate with anyone who like to match my IP with the retard using that skype. Im pretty sure he won't be even in the same country, because the scammers are not really smart. You are just mad to some random scammer and pointing my name just because i ask for your contact details days ago which were posted public and which you used to give to everyone else who you were trying to make deal with ? Dude... Now everything is transparent for me... Open your eyes! Title: Re: Almost Scammed by Danos! Don't use Monbux's "Automatic System"! Post by: johntrichfield on October 13, 2017, 12:12:52 AM ahha! You’ve already admitted the person on skype was a scammer. All I’ve got to do is prove it was you. And I can! The email I use here is different than the one I sent you by pm! I have never shared this email with anyone else on this forum, and I've never posted it publicly. I've only given it to a select few So tell me, if you weren't the person talking to me on skype, how did that person get my skype address?
Of course, you're never going to admit you were trying to scam me, but I think I have provided enough evidence, so I'm done with this thread. Although, if anyone would like to see proof of my skype address, and my pm to Danos, go a head and pm me. I don't want to post it out in public where everyone can see it. Title: Re: Almost Scammed by Danos! Don't use Monbux's "Automatic System"! Post by: Danos on October 13, 2017, 12:15:41 AM ahha! You’ve already admitted the person on skype was a scammer. All I’ve got to do is prove it was you. And I can! The email I use here is different than the one I sent you by pm! I have never shared this email with anyone else on this forum, and I've never posted it publicly. I've only given it to a select few So tell me, if you weren't the person talking to me on skype, how did that person get my skype address? "I've only given it to a select few"Of course, you're never going to admit you were trying to scam me, but I think I have provided enough evidence, so I'm done with this thread. Although, if anyone would like to see proof of my skype address, and my pm to Danos, go a head and pm me. I don't want to post it out in public where everyone can see it. I was just guessing what and where you were giving but now that giving me answers. So of that selected few im the one trying to do something wrong against you? And you ignoring my will of cooperate to show how retarded you are and prove im not anyone of the guys/people you saying? Blind soul. No one give a fuck about your skype or the scammers skype. This thread is against me. Show us proof hows that my skype and how im connected with it. Or you are just underage confused bully with notepad story's based on no proofs. Edit: If any of you, Moderators/Admins or anyone who have access to people inbox, please check this retarded OP inbox, and mine (i never deleted any of my messages). And explain him how stupid he is. You provided enough evidences that some retards trying to scam you, but consider that thread is against me, me and the community still waiting the evidences against me. If you don't have any, apologize and fuck off. If you going to blame randomly for no reason without proofs, go chose someone else from those "select few" and open thread against him. Title: Re: Almost Scammed by Danos! Don't use Monbux's "Automatic System"! Post by: johntrichfield on October 13, 2017, 12:42:51 AM You know what? I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt, and remove my trust rating. I admit there's the slight chance it wasn't you, and I deeply apologize if it wasn't.
Title: Re: Almost Scammed by Danos! Don't use Monbux's "Automatic System"! Post by: Danos on October 13, 2017, 02:31:40 AM You know what? I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt, and remove my trust rating. I admit there's the slight chance it wasn't you, and I deeply apologize if it wasn't. I removed yours also, i hope you don't mind change the tittle of the thread and close it because it makes me look like something im not.Title: Re: Almost Scammed by Danos! Don't use Monbux's "Automatic System"! Post by: Laravel on October 13, 2017, 07:52:34 AM Good to know that both of you decided to end this in a peaceful way. What important is, no one got been robbed on this deal, right?
I agree with Danos, you probably should change or remove his/her name on the topic title, then closed the thread for good and to avoid anyone in bumping this again. Problem solved! Good luck!! |