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Title: [REFERENCE] Klondike DIYers Thread
Post by: Bicknellski on June 06, 2013, 06:08:20 PM
Seeing as there are quite a few threads I think it be nice to collect the better bits and keep it as a reference for the DIY'ers out there. I will add links to threads and outside sources. Feel free to discuss below anything that you do not want to clutter BKKCoins thread. Keep things KLONDIKE related or adjacent like Alten or Burins builds. Others who are producing Klondikes are welcome to add and report their project progress here as well. I will try and consolidate and summarize things in the reserved / update section.

Links to DIY Information on the Klondike:

Casings

 Casing Discussion Thread: Pretty Boxes for your Klondike (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=223680.0)
 Size Matters: Where BKKCoins compares K1, K16 and K64 sizes in metric! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190731.msg2044266#msg2044266)
 Holes: Where BKKCoins discusses the diameter and spacing of through holes (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190731.msg2049480#msg2049480)

Controllers and USB Hubs

 BKKCoins Likes to Pi: What controllers he will test with the Klondike (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190731.msg2376216#msg2376216)
 Aliexpress Troll: "Cheap TL-WR703N Y U NO BUY?" (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190731.msg2386084#msg2386084)
 Hubolicious (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=244494.0) NEW

PSUs, cabling and bracket mounting

 BKKCoins PSU recommendations: I don't always buy psu's but when I do I buy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190731.msg2109628#msg2109628)
 BKKCoins Power Talk: A K16 will use around 32W (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190731.msg2061531#msg2061531)
 Mr.Turtle suggest Power Adapter in Burins Build. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179769.msg2441946#msg2441946)
 How to power 16 Klondike K16s? Thread by Mabsark  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=239377.msg2536272#msg2536272)
 Klondike 16 - 3.5" HDD and PCI Express Mounting Adapters for sale by Jdape  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=246638.msg2615862#msg2615862)NEW

Firmware  / Mining Software

 BKKCoins has something Firm on his mind: Firmware Overview (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190731.msg2195835#msg2195835)
 BKKCoins says RELEASE THE KRAKEN: "I'm going to release the firmware and driver code once it's working." (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190731.msg2326435#msg2326435)

DIY Build information, Reflow, Stencils & More

 ALTEN Hardcore DIY: "Got all new fresh supplies for a DIY setup. Spent a little over $200."  (https://bitcointalk.org/ndex.php?topic=161715.msg2374824#msg2374824)
 To DIY Reflow or Not: Links for the hardcore DIY and noob alike.  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190731.msg2111856#msg2111856)
 How to tattoo your boards: Stenciling 101 & Reflow QFN chips. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190731.msg2170660#msg2170660)
 Southerngentuk finds a perfect pick and place DIY for BKKcoins. (http://vpapanik.blogspot.com.au/2012/11/low-budget-manual-pick-place.html)
 Southerngentuk finds video for recycled DIY home-made SMT metal stencil.  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWUJtmgh55M)
 Southerngentuk wants you to read about the DIY home-made SMT metal stencil.  (http://lowpowerlab.com/blog/2013/01/23/diy-home-made-metal-stencils-step-through/)
 LaserHorse gives us a great link for Surface Mount Soldering... STEADY HANDS  (http://store.curiousinventor.com/guides/Surface_Mount_Soldering/QFN/)

Pricing and sourcing of PCB, BOM, etc.

 Pass the BOM: 300+ Parts Whatcha talkin' bout Willis? (https://github.com/bkkcoins/klondike/blob/master/docs/K16%20Parts%20List.pdf)
 Where BKKCoins does Jethro like math: Guesstimate of Klondike Price in USD. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190731.msg1976420#msg1976420)
 Where the EUrotrash set Guesstimate Klondike price in Euros. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190731.msg2155249#msg2155249)

Heat sinks and cooling

 Steamboat gives us another dimension: "How big is your heat sink mister?" (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190731.msg2182078#msg2182078)
 WynX: Yawn... heat calculations: "Hmm yeah I've not found the most up-to-date reference (1992) on the thermal conductivity for (silver) epoxy." (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190731.msg2150126#msg2150126)
 Vigil models heat sink with Klondike.  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=215893.msg2623504#msg2623504)

Board Building Services

 Hey! Everyone the Klondike Store is open for orders!  (http://klondikedesign.com)NEW
 Comprehensive List of Avalon Builders. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192860.0)
 Pay for K1 Fabrication in chips, 1 for 1 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=257666.0) NEW

Overclocking

 Where BKKCoins guesstimates overclocking room of K16 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190731.msg1988821#msg1988821)
 K16/K64 Blade DIY Mineral Oil Cooling Thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=248184.msg2633155#msg2633155) NEW


Title: Re: [REFERENCE] Klondike DIYers Thread
Post by: Bicknellski on June 06, 2013, 06:08:32 PM
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Title: Re: [REFERENCE] Klondike DIYers Thread
Post by: turtle83 on June 06, 2013, 06:45:00 PM
Thanks a lot for doing this. You created this thread while I was typing a suggestion to do exactly this.

One suggestion is use bitcointalk.org in the urls instead of IP. Many people don't want to accept uncertified SSL connections. :)


Title: Re: [REFERENCE] Klondike DIYers Thread
Post by: KS on June 06, 2013, 07:01:20 PM
Thanks a lot for doing this. You created this thread while I was typing a suggestion to do exactly this.

One suggestion is use bitcointalk.org in the urls instead of IP. Many people don't want to accept uncertified SSL connections. :)

Yeah, I was starting a poll ;D

Subforuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhmmmmmm!


Title: Re: [REFERENCE] Klondike DIYers Thread
Post by: Bicknellski on June 06, 2013, 07:08:34 PM
Thanks a lot for doing this. You created this thread while I was typing a suggestion to do exactly this.

One suggestion is use bitcointalk.org in the urls instead of IP. Many people don't want to accept uncertified SSL connections. :)

Yeah, I was starting a poll ;D

Subforuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhmmmmmm!

Throw some links below and I will add to the list....
we can do a lot of off topic stuff here and chat etc... speculate etc and it won't  mess up the existing threads.


Title: Re: [REFERENCE] Klondike DIYers Thread
Post by: KS on June 06, 2013, 07:31:53 PM
Thanks a lot for doing this. You created this thread while I was typing a suggestion to do exactly this.

One suggestion is use bitcointalk.org in the urls instead of IP. Many people don't want to accept uncertified SSL connections. :)

Yeah, I was starting a poll ;D

Subforuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhmmmmmm!

Throw some links below and I will add to the list....
we can do a lot of off topic stuff here and chat etc... speculate etc and it won't  mess up the existing threads.



Hmmmm. You mean like this?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=223680.msg2393221#msg2393221


Title: Re: [REFERENCE] Klondike DIYers Thread
Post by: Bicknellski on June 06, 2013, 07:44:26 PM
Or....

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/38487936.jpg


Title: Re: [REFERENCE] Klondike DIYers Thread
Post by: Bicknellski on June 06, 2013, 07:51:52 PM
It be nice to have a DIY manual to put together so that users can get a K1 and K16 up and mining in zero to no time at all.

Cut and Paste anyone?


Title: Re: [REFERENCE] Klondike DIYers Thread
Post by: KS on June 06, 2013, 08:00:39 PM

 ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: [REFERENCE] Klondike DIYers Thread
Post by: Bicknellski on June 07, 2013, 04:33:30 AM
Anyone interested in working on a cut paste diy manual that we can all edit?


Title: Re: [REFERENCE] Klondike DIYers Thread
Post by: Bicknellski on June 10, 2013, 07:16:20 AM
Please make sure you send your develop chips if you have control of any to BKKCoins... he needs 16 to fully test the K16.


Title: Re: [REFERENCE] Klondike DIYers Thread
Post by: southerngentuk on June 12, 2013, 12:19:51 AM
i Saw this and I thought of you..

http://vpapanik.blogspot.com.au/2012/11/low-budget-manual-pick-place.html

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-AVfGGrcT-lo/ULEYcsfK4-I/AAAAAAAABkc/qZaUp8UqC-4/s640/%CF%86%CF%89%CF%84%CE%BF%CE%B3%CF%81%CE%B1%CF%86%CE%AF%CE%B1.JPG

So pick n place $100
reflow oven $150
rework station $80

what else do i need for my shopping list ?


Title: Re: [REFERENCE] Klondike DIYers Thread
Post by: southerngentuk on June 12, 2013, 06:38:58 AM
DIY Stencil from coke can !!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWUJtmgh55M


edit: add text version

http://lowpowerlab.com/blog/2013/01/23/diy-home-made-metal-stencils-step-through/


Title: Re: [REFERENCE] Klondike DIYers Thread
Post by: Bicknellski on June 12, 2013, 10:35:02 AM
Nice additions I will add those.

BKKCoins wants an PnP machine send him a PM with that link... nice find.


Title: Re: [REFERENCE] Klondike DIYers Thread
Post by: FuzzyThunder on June 12, 2013, 01:57:11 PM
Anyone interested in working on a cut paste diy manual that we can all edit?

What about a wiki?

Thanks a bunch for starting this thread, super helpful.


Title: Re: [REFERENCE] Klondike DIYers Thread
Post by: Bicknellski on June 12, 2013, 04:43:07 PM
Anyone interested in working on a cut paste diy manual that we can all edit?

What about a wiki?

Thanks a bunch for starting this thread, super helpful.

Even better... can use the specification from the github to start it?


Title: Re: [REFERENCE] Klondike DIYers Thread
Post by: erschiessen on June 14, 2013, 02:22:58 AM
Thank you for this thread.

With the sample chips arriving at destinations, I - for one - am getting stoked.


Title: Re: [REFERENCE] Klondike DIYers Thread
Post by: southerngentuk on June 14, 2013, 10:04:02 AM
DIY Stencil from coke can !!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWUJtmgh55M


edit: add text version

http://lowpowerlab.com/blog/2013/01/23/diy-home-made-metal-stencils-step-through/

NOTE : on further investigation I must note it appears this only works with laser toner printers ( if you don`t have one then print with an Inkjet then photocopy it).

Some report printing on glossy magazine paper works best and i have read passing the stencil and print a few times through a laminator instead of an iron.

I might have a play with this shortly if someone can point me in the direction of the relevant file on github and suggest the software I would need to open it ?


Title: Re: [REFERENCE] Klondike DIYers Thread
Post by: Ente on June 24, 2013, 07:08:41 AM
i Saw this and I thought of you..

http://vpapanik.blogspot.com.au/2012/11/low-budget-manual-pick-place.html

So pick n place $100
reflow oven $150
rework station $80

what else do i need for my shopping list ?

I'm not sure how this would be faster or more accurate than hand-placing with tweezers.. This "just" kind of removes one of the axis when placing the parts, but looks so much slower?
But then I never placed lots of tiny SMT parts on a board.

Ente


Title: Re: [REFERENCE] Klondike DIYers Thread
Post by: Bicknellski on June 24, 2013, 07:15:08 AM
Anything that can steady your hand and rest it allowing for consistent movement might speed things up given you have a vacuum tip right? Much easier.


Title: Re: [REFERENCE] Klondike DIYers Thread
Post by: Bicknellski on June 28, 2013, 03:12:59 AM
Mabsark thread on PSU's just added. If you have other sources of good information on K1 or K16 development post more below.


Title: Re: [REFERENCE] Klondike DIYers Thread
Post by: Bicknellski on June 28, 2013, 10:44:30 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190731.msg1988821#msg1988821

Added Overclocking head room BKKCoins first mentions about the K16.


Title: Re: [REFERENCE] Klondike DIYers Thread
Post by: Bicknellski on June 30, 2013, 06:46:57 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=246638.msg2615862#msg2615862

Klondike 16 - 3.5" HDD and PCI Express Mounting Adapters



Title: Re: [REFERENCE] Klondike DIYers Thread
Post by: Bicknellski on July 01, 2013, 04:30:08 AM
Added Vigil's heat sink modeling.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=215893.msg2623189#msg2623189 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=215893.msg2623189#msg2623189)


Title: Re: [REFERENCE] Klondike DIYers Thread
Post by: xcrowd on July 01, 2013, 05:52:19 AM
Anyone interested in working on a cut paste diy manual that we can all edit?

What about a wiki?

Thanks a bunch for starting this thread, super helpful.

Even better... can use the specification from the github to start it?

Would love the link to the wiki. Can't seem to find it on github or on here. If possible we'll take a stab at translating parts of it into Chinese.


Title: Re: [REFERENCE] Klondike DIYers Thread
Post by: Bicknellski on July 01, 2013, 07:07:06 AM
No wiki yet... we need someone to build it. Sure love to see this in Chinese.


Title: Re: [REFERENCE] Klondike DIYers Thread
Post by: Bicknellski on July 02, 2013, 02:38:59 AM
LaserHorse gives us a great link for Surface Mount Soldering... STEADY HANDS is a NEW link

and

Vigil gives us first look at 32 mm fins heat sink model. COOLING! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=208381.msg2631164#msg2631164


Title: Re: [REFERENCE] Klondike DIYers Thread
Post by: Bicknellski on July 03, 2013, 04:59:49 AM
Added a new link

K16/K64 Blade DIY Mineral Oil Cooling Thread NEW


Title: Re: [REFERENCE] Klondike DIYers Thread
Post by: Ente on July 09, 2013, 12:28:00 PM
You are doing a great job on collecting all those resources, thank you a lot!

Ente


Title: Re: [REFERENCE] Klondike DIYers Thread
Post by: Bicknellski on July 09, 2013, 12:33:00 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Ni1xmwf.jpg

Franken P0rn for the Klondike...

Not a problem Ente my pleasure to do this.

Quote
Quote from: BkkCoins on Today at 18:35:25
Just started running with 4 chips. 17 WU/m, 1.2 GH/s.


Title: Re: [REFERENCE] Klondike DIYers Thread
Post by: Bicknellski on July 11, 2013, 12:40:19 PM
HUBS for K1s... any good suggestions?


Title: Re: [REFERENCE] Klondike DIYers Thread
Post by: Bicknellski on July 20, 2013, 10:52:59 AM
Pay for K1 Fabrication in chips, 1 for 1: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=257666.0


Title: Re: [REFERENCE] Klondike DIYers Thread
Post by: Bicknellski on July 20, 2013, 12:40:38 PM
HUBS for K1s... any good suggestions?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=244494.0  <--- answer my own question.