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Post by: dazedfool on October 17, 2017, 03:36:37 AM
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Title: Re: Cas 10BTC Gilt interest? ⭕️⭕️⭕️⭕️⭕️
Post by: Blazed on October 17, 2017, 04:24:52 AM
How about an original WoodCollector piece...the first ever made  :o


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Post by: dazedfool on October 17, 2017, 04:33:32 AM
How about an original WoodCollector piece...the first ever made  :o

Photos? Whats the MSRP on that hot potato?  :P


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Post by: krogothmanhattan on October 17, 2017, 09:11:33 AM
Would love to buy...but way out of my range.


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Post by: nubbins on October 17, 2017, 01:10:26 PM
How about an original WoodCollector piece...the first ever made  :o

Lol, UkCrypto sold his piece for a higher USD value than what he paid

I can't even make fun of you folks anymore because it's obvious that none of you care what you spend money on  ::)


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Post by: dazedfool on October 17, 2017, 06:13:55 PM
How about an original WoodCollector piece...the first ever made  :o

Lol, UkCrypto sold his piece for a higher USD value than what he paid

I can't even make fun of you folks anymore because it's obvious that none of you care what you spend money on  ::)

Hey leave them kids alone! They can spend their magic internet moneys on whatever nonsense they like. Including my shiny silver token  8)


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Post by: dazedfool on October 18, 2017, 09:04:51 PM
Got one interesting offer and a couple terrible offers.. Anything else from you delightful chaps?


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Post by: Anduck on October 18, 2017, 09:09:29 PM
Got one interesting offer and a couple terrible offers.. Anything else from you delightful chaps?

Wanna share? :)


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Post by: OgNasty on October 18, 2017, 09:13:04 PM
Have you ever sold something so expensive on eBay?  I'm curious how the process went/goes for you.


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Post by: dazedfool on October 18, 2017, 09:21:34 PM
Have you ever sold something so expensive on eBay?  I'm curious how the process went/goes for you.

Yep. Generally smooth.

Interesting thing is once you get above ~25-30K usd, credit cards aren't an option for most people due to credit limits. This means bank/wire transfers. I provide a receive account, they wire me money, my bank confirms, I send the product and deal is done. No chargeback threat. Coin dealers sell 5-6+ figure exceptionally rare coins on ebay all the time, similar arrangement.

Occasionally people offer to pay in bitcoin, but wire transfer has been much more common for high value.


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Post by: dazedfool on October 18, 2017, 09:22:20 PM
Got one interesting offer and a couple terrible offers.. Anything else from you delightful chaps?

Wanna share? :)

Wanna make an offer?  :P


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Post by: Anduck on October 18, 2017, 09:34:11 PM
Got one interesting offer and a couple terrible offers.. Anything else from you delightful chaps?

Wanna share? :)

Wanna make an offer?  :P

No. At least not before I know what others have offered.  :o


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Post by: bitmarket.io on October 18, 2017, 10:29:55 PM
The $130k price made me lol


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Post by: dazedfool on October 18, 2017, 11:09:44 PM
The $130k price made me lol

Hey stranger! I aim to please... if/when BTC cracks $6000, I'll up the price to $150K  ;D


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Post by: moneyman12 on October 19, 2017, 03:18:09 AM
I have a cas 10btc gilt in minty fresh ungraded condition.

Looking for 18btc OBO. Escrow or in-person can be arranged. Will consider cash USD, gold bullion, other crypto coins, or a fast Audi in trade.

It's the one that's been on ebay for the past few moons: https://www.ebay.com/itm/202079061656

And yes, my ask there is ridiculous intentionally (to encourage direct offers). Will entertain any reasonable offers here, PM or post.

I'll even throw in a SEALED pre-fork satori roll for free! OH DAYUM

I'm definitely interested in this coin as well as the 25 BTC coin. 18 BTC seems high, but I'd probably be willing to spend 15 BTC if it's a graded 68-70. Trying to put together a casascius collection, but only interested in mints.


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Post by: dazedfool on October 19, 2017, 03:21:30 AM
I have a cas 10btc gilt in minty fresh ungraded condition.

Looking for 18btc OBO. Escrow or in-person can be arranged. Will consider cash USD, gold bullion, other crypto coins, or a fast Audi in trade.

It's the one that's been on ebay for the past few moons: https://www.ebay.com/itm/202079061656

And yes, my ask there is ridiculous intentionally (to encourage direct offers). Will entertain any reasonable offers here, PM or post.

I'll even throw in a SEALED pre-fork satori roll for free! OH DAYUM

I'm definitely interested in this coin as well as the 25 BTC coin. 18 BTC seems high, but I'd probably be willing to spend 15 BTC if it's a graded 68-70. Trying to put together a casascius collection, but only interested in mints.

My coin is minty fresh and in immaculate condition, but ungraded. I am looking for more than 15btc tho. Thanks!


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Post by: dazedfool on October 19, 2017, 09:47:32 PM
 :o :o :o


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Post by: gentlemand on October 21, 2017, 04:01:33 PM
Can anyone point to any successful sales of high denomination coins like these in recent times? All I can see are examples that appear to linger for years on end.


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Post by: Hhampuz on October 21, 2017, 04:04:25 PM
Can anyone point to any successful sales of high denomination coins like these in recent times? All I can see are examples that appear to linger for years on end.

I believe there was one other user on this forum that tried selling a 10BTC Cas with a golden heart on it for around 18 BTC. Not sure if he ever got it sold but I think he bumped it for over a year without success..


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Post by: dolphriends on October 21, 2017, 04:39:03 PM
I am sure it's a nice looking coin but, way too expensive for me.


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Post by: nubbins on October 21, 2017, 04:44:39 PM
Can anyone point to any successful sales of high denomination coins like these in recent times? All I can see are examples that appear to linger for years on end.

I suspect that many holders of 10s are unwilling to accept a BTC price lower than what they paid for the coin. This means many are unwilling to let them go for less than 16-18.

I also suspect that the phenomenon of Casascius coins holding their premiums in terms of BTC is over, and that sellers turn down any reasonable offers at their own peril. I expect BTC premiums to continue to drop.

But hey, what do I know?


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Post by: gentlemand on October 21, 2017, 04:56:22 PM
But hey, what do I know?

I think you know more than enough. The big buck coin owners are either going to have to get realistic or enjoy their coins for all eternity.

It's interesting how invisible they've become. I'm wondering whether it's a trough or whether they'll remain rather obscure.


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Post by: astrocity1981 on October 21, 2017, 06:33:44 PM
I think the premiums will continue to  drop as well, but for many people that do not have a casascius coin. May be willing to pay a premium just to own a part of BTC history.


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Post by: dazedfool on October 21, 2017, 06:49:55 PM
Can anyone point to any successful sales of high denomination coins like these in recent times? All I can see are examples that appear to linger for years on end.

therealNano sold one to mindtrip back in June of this year: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1965489.0
 
and one sold on ebay last month for $46K apparently: https://www.ebay.com/itm/272851711978


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Post by: dazedfool on October 21, 2017, 06:57:42 PM
Can anyone point to any successful sales of high denomination coins like these in recent times? All I can see are examples that appear to linger for years on end.

I suspect that many holders of 10s are unwilling to accept a BTC price lower than what they paid for the coin. This means many are unwilling to let them go for less than 16-18.

I also suspect that the phenomenon of Casascius coins holding their premiums in terms of BTC is over, and that sellers turn down any reasonable offers at their own peril. I expect BTC premiums to continue to drop.

But hey, what do I know?

Lol @ "sellers turn down any reasonable offers at their own peril".

How do you define reasonable? What might the peril be? Stuck with a terribly shiny token for a few more years?  :P

It's just a thin market with unmotivated sellers. They have a rare and desirable thing, so they can ask whatever they want, for as long as they want. Maybe a motivated buyer will come along and meet their ask, maybe not. Maybe it sits in storage for a few more years.


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Post by: Gatorelf on October 21, 2017, 07:26:12 PM
Can anyone point to any successful sales of high denomination coins like these in recent times? All I can see are examples that appear to linger for years on end.

I suspect that many holders of 10s are unwilling to accept a BTC price lower than what they paid for the coin. This means many are unwilling to let them go for less than 16-18.

I also suspect that the phenomenon of Casascius coins holding their premiums in terms of BTC is over, and that sellers turn down any reasonable offers at their own peril. I expect BTC premiums to continue to drop.

But hey, what do I know?

Lol @ "sellers turn down any reasonable offers at their own peril".

How do you define reasonable? What might the peril be? Stuck with a terribly shiny token for a few more years?  :P

It's just a thin market with unmotivated sellers. They have a rare and desirable thing, so they can ask whatever they want, for as long as they want. Maybe a motivated buyer will come along and meet their ask, maybe not. Maybe it sits in storage for a few more years.


I thought that was your coin :)   These things will just be swapping with millionaires now and in the future. Im a little salty the tax man got most my collection but I have a couple of super tenths and some other cool coins. It wont be long (couple years) before these 10 btc and higher loaded coins will have to sell at Sotheby's  like rare cars sell.  Congrats on your investment !


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Post by: cryptoheadd on October 21, 2017, 09:31:38 PM
Hey stranger! I aim to please... if/when BTC cracks $6000, I'll up the price to $150K  ;D

Time to up the price?  ;)


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Post by: dazedfool on October 21, 2017, 10:14:07 PM
Hey stranger! I aim to please... if/when BTC cracks $6000, I'll up the price to $150K  ;D

Time to up the price?  ;)

Done  8)


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Post by: Ticked on October 22, 2017, 05:10:00 AM
Can anyone point to any successful sales of high denomination coins like these in recent times? All I can see are examples that appear to linger for years on end.

I suspect that many holders of 10s are unwilling to accept a BTC price lower than what they paid for the coin. This means many are unwilling to let them go for less than 16-18.

I also suspect that the phenomenon of Casascius coins holding their premiums in terms of BTC is over, and that sellers turn down any reasonable offers at their own peril. I expect BTC premiums to continue to drop.

But hey, what do I know?

I agree with this...for a period of time...after which - when and if classic numismatic collectors get interested...we may see unfathomable premiums. Or at least sustained.


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Post by: Blazed on October 22, 2017, 06:19:45 AM
I escrowed a sale of 2 x Cas 10 coins last week. I will see if the seller is good with me stating prices...


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Post by: nubbins on October 22, 2017, 11:20:49 AM
But hey, what do I know?

How do you define reasonable? What might the peril be? Stuck with a terribly shiny token for a few more years?  :P

"Reasonable" is subjective; the peril is unrealized gains. Tinfoil is shiny -- but if someone offers me $50 for a piece of it, I'm not gonna hold out for $100.

We all have different motivations, all I'm saying is that if you are hoping to maximize your dollar return, sitting on this coin isn't the way to do it. Best of luck with the sale :)


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Post by: dozerz on October 22, 2017, 11:43:06 AM
interesting that premiums for casascius coins have remained mostly steady even with the rise in bitcoin value. will the trend continue post $1k usd remains to be seen. some would say this is already due to numismatic value but without pcgs or ngc gradings it maybe some time before crypto coins go mainstream if ever.


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Post by: nubbins on October 22, 2017, 12:15:40 PM
interesting that premiums for casascius coins have remained mostly steady even with the rise in bitcoin value. will the trend continue post $1k usd remains to be seen. some would say this is already due to numismatic value but without pcgs or ngc gradings it maybe some time before crypto coins go mainstream if ever.

Just saying, 1BTC silvers were selling for >3 for a while...


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Post by: dozerz on October 22, 2017, 12:20:09 PM
interesting that premiums for casascius coins have remained mostly steady even with the rise in bitcoin value. will the trend continue post $1k usd remains to be seen. some would say this is already due to numismatic value but without pcgs or ngc gradings it maybe some time before crypto coins go mainstream if ever.

Just saying, 1BTC silvers were selling for >3 for a while...

at peak hype yes, errors also went >4 at one stage.

interested to hear if blazed can share the prices.


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Post by: gentlemand on October 22, 2017, 12:27:43 PM
at peak hype yes, errors also went >4 at one stage.

If I remember rightly people were asking for over 6 fairly regularly. I suppose it didn't matter all that much when BTC was $200 ish. It certainly does now.


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Post by: OneNattyLitecoin on October 22, 2017, 12:33:00 PM
Last price publicized was Mindtrips 16.25BTC. BTC was in the low $4ks if I recall correctly.

you were offered ~$30k for a piece of silver in this thread, and you said sorry, too low. Couple that with most believe BTC is going to $7k, 10k, etc, it’s nothing short of lunacy.




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Post by: bavicrypto on October 22, 2017, 01:02:56 PM
It all depends on what the btc price does. If it goes down, the coin might gain value in btc. Also don't forget that these coins will hold all the new crypto coins from the forks. So a cas will hold btc/bch/btg and segwit 2x next month already. Not just btc. Add that to the collectable aspect, and these these coins might outperform btc. Again, it all depends on how fast btc rises/drops.



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Post by: nubbins on October 22, 2017, 05:55:24 PM
So a cas will hold btc/bch/btg and segwit 2x next month already. Not just btc.

Yeah, but so will paper wallets. Should we pay a $35,000 premium for those?


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Post by: Gatorelf on October 22, 2017, 06:28:51 PM
another thing to look at as far as should I sell part of my collection/investment is, what % of my net worth is in crypto. Is it 40% or more...

If you have increased your net worth 10 x or so on a particular investment in a relative short time you would want to start to diversify your assets. Protect your capital, Land (Tree Farm) / rental property, Stock, a business, Silver/Gold and other collectibles.

just my 2 satoshi  :)


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Post by: dazedfool on October 22, 2017, 09:09:41 PM
So a cas will hold btc/bch/btg and segwit 2x next month already. Not just btc.

Yeah, but so will paper wallets. Should we pay a $35,000 premium for those?

Should you? Up to you. Might you? If you want it badly enough...


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Post by: dazedfool on October 24, 2017, 08:13:25 PM
someone say moon?


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Post by: Gatorelf on October 24, 2017, 08:29:34 PM
it is a masterpiece work of art ! 


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Post by: Anduck on October 24, 2017, 08:34:19 PM
Do you have exact info how many of these was made? I think 200 of gilt, 200 of non-gilt.


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Post by: OgNasty on October 24, 2017, 08:45:10 PM
Do you have exact info how many of these was made? I think 200 of gilt, 200 of non-gilt.

https://casascius.uberbills.com

I'd guess probably closer to 300 gilt, 200 non-gilt.  The non-gilt versions appear to be more rare judging by the auctions I've observed here over the years, but I only have my personal beliefs to back that up.  Did Casascius ever release actual numbers?  I'd be curious.


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Post by: Anduck on October 24, 2017, 09:16:29 PM
Total number of made 10's can be found but AFAIK the proportions of gilt/non-gilt not.


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Post by: Fattcatt on October 24, 2017, 10:14:14 PM
ummmm......JUPITR more likely Dazed  ;D