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Title: Is Putin going to run his own ICO?
Post by: ledu_ico on October 18, 2017, 01:32:45 AM
Putin Orders the Issue of Russia’s National Cryptocurrency – the Cryptoruble, lmfao this sounds just wrong to me.
They have cloned facebook, now it's bitcoins turn ... i can just lol


Title: Re: Is Putin going to run his own ICO?
Post by: hitlab on October 18, 2017, 01:35:23 AM
Makes sense that governments will try to replicate crypto currencies in the fiat system. I imagine all currencies being digitized in the future with bitcoin being one of the options that people can choose to use.


Title: Re: Is Putin going to run his own ICO?
Post by: CryptoBry on October 18, 2017, 01:41:59 AM
Putin Orders the Issue of Russia’s National Cryptocurrency – the Cryptoruble, lmfao this sounds just wrong to me.
They have cloned facebook, now it's bitcoins turn ... i can just lol

This is just the digital version actually of their national currency nothing more nothing less. And this can actually be a trend for many months to come until they would realize of the foolishness of such a decision. The big reason why we have cryptocurrency is to get away from the control and biases of the governments to do whatever they want to do at the expense of the people. When you have a cryptocurrency controlled by the government this can be a big joke and will end end as a mediocre attempt.

Will Putin hold an ICO for his new altcoin? That is not necessary since the government has the money. Instead they would just open it up for people who want to exchange their ruble to Cryptoruble.

Good luck, Putin!


Title: Re: Is Putin going to run his own ICO?
Post by: lazygin001 on October 18, 2017, 01:45:30 AM
He should just name it after him - Putincoin :D By the way China also has a lot of their own crypto currencies so not surprise Putin is making his own too


Title: Re: Is Putin going to run his own ICO?
Post by: EcoChavCrypto on October 18, 2017, 01:46:37 AM
It's incredible that this is happening with cryptocurrencies, but this from Russia and Putin is really making me very shocked and makes me think about so many things. But it is a disaster I do not understand how they are going to create a cryptocurrency that only the Russians can buy it since it generates a closed market, and I do not understand which is the role that the price will realize in this one, it is so weird.


Title: Re: Is Putin going to run his own ICO?
Post by: Ariess on October 18, 2017, 01:48:34 AM
Putin Orders the Issue of Russia’s National Cryptocurrency – the Cryptoruble, lmfao this sounds just wrong to me.
They have cloned facebook, now it's bitcoins turn ... i can just lol


where did you get such news ?

is there a valid link to show the news, maybe you can include url link from a valid address.


Title: Re: Is Putin going to run his own ICO?
Post by: TastyChillySauce00 on October 18, 2017, 01:49:27 AM
Maybe just selling cryptoruble in ratio of 1:1 with Russian's currency which is ruble. There'll be no ICO since there's no project will be developed by creating cryptoruble but merely digitalize their local currency.
It maybe sounds awkward if Russia is really trying to make their own cryptocurrency but atleast, a good thing for the crypto world. and also, to avoid tax evasion therefore any cryptocurrency users will have reduced risk of being accused for criminal act such as tax evasion.

Putin Orders the Issue of Russia’s National Cryptocurrency – the Cryptoruble, lmfao this sounds just wrong to me.
They have cloned facebook, now it's bitcoins turn ... i can just lol


where did you get such news ?

is there a valid link to show the news, maybe you can include url link from a valid address.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4989410/Russia-launches-cyber-currency-CryptoRuble.html

And there's many more news regarding this event from many reliable sources, not just a rumour.


Title: Re: Is Putin going to run his own ICO?
Post by: deloreswest on October 18, 2017, 01:58:56 AM
putin coin seems a good name for his coin. All coin would drop down in fear cause of putincoin. i believe it would be great coin if its true. i wonder what kind of project that they will offer.


Title: Re: Is Putin going to run his own ICO?
Post by: sakkosekk on October 18, 2017, 02:02:13 AM
Yes, Puntin has released his own ICO_ Russia
I think the next will come to America and China
Gradually it will be popular all over the world


Title: Re: Is Putin going to run his own ICO?
Post by: sakkosekk on October 18, 2017, 02:57:34 AM
putin coin seems a good name for his coin. All coin would drop down in fear cause of putincoin. i believe it would be great coin if its true. i wonder what kind of project that they will offer.

Is it putincoin?
If so will there be trumpcoin later?
TapCanBinhCoin?


Title: Re: Is Putin going to run his own ICO?
Post by: jseverson on October 18, 2017, 03:16:37 AM
It's not an ICO. Heck, I would even hesitate to call it an altcoin. It's basically the Ruble, except in digital form. It's really hard to make assumptions right now, since we have no clue how it's going to be implemented. What I want to know, is how its value will be driven. Will it have the same value as the Ruble, and is that even possible? Does this mean they will be basically increasing the currency in circulation? Will it have anonymity features as implied by the Crypto prefix in its name?

The way I currently see it, it won't be a direct competitor to Bitcoin since they have core differences in functionalities. They will only be direct competitors when it comes to spending. If you're looking to strike up deals without the involvement of third parties, or if you want to place an investment, you're going to have to use Bitcoin as I don't think CryptoRubles can provide that.


Title: Re: Is Putin going to run his own ICO?
Post by: jtipt on October 18, 2017, 03:25:03 AM
He should just name it after him - Putincoin :D
Lol yeah that would be fun  :D As always Putin always does something surprising, just few days ago I saw an article where he was bashing on bitcoin calling it not good for their country, as it would be used for money laundering and stuff. And now here he is announcing a new crypto. Although I don't think it's correct to use the word crypto here as what 'cryptoruble' is just digital ruble, completely controlled by putin. Snot exactly a Cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Is Putin going to run his own ICO?
Post by: salihno71 on November 20, 2017, 08:57:53 PM
It is just the matter of time before most of the countries create their own version of crypto asset. I don't see any reason why Russia should be an exception.


Title: Re: Is Putin going to run his own ICO?
Post by: crazyivan on November 20, 2017, 08:58:43 PM
Who cares about that my friend? Central government and cryptocurrencies just do not go hand in hand. One cannot FORCE people to do anything. This is something Russians have never learned.


Title: Re: Is Putin going to run his own ICO?
Post by: Temik2704 on November 20, 2017, 09:01:30 PM
It is not ICO! Russia is going to create their own crypto, but from crypto there will be nothing. It will be centralized and unuseful!


Title: Re: Is Putin going to run his own ICO?
Post by: SimontheRavager on November 20, 2017, 09:02:27 PM
I suppose they just want to see how the crypto community is reacting as the russian central bank is fighting against crypto, but the russian finance minister is for crypto. So there is a deep struggle inside russias powerhouse.


Title: Re: Is Putin going to run his own ICO?
Post by: Pab on November 20, 2017, 09:04:24 PM
Not bad,i remember rubelcoin,putincoin,trumpcoin have been traded on c-cex.com hype exchange


Title: Re: Is Putin going to run his own ICO?
Post by: Vladv26 on November 20, 2017, 09:04:53 PM
The government started to notice that bitcoin is a very successful technology that a lot of people like and use. Bitcoin is also affecting governments because people can make transactions that are not detected by them and people dont pay taxes from profits earned through bitcoin.

Soon all the big governments will create their own cryptocurrency because they saw the huge price that bitcoin reached.

I dont know what to say about Putin running his own ICO. I dont think this is his main focus right now because it is not something huge that affects the Russia. There are no official news confirming that this ICO is owned by Putin. It may be just a lie to attract people.


Title: Re: Is Putin going to run his own ICO?
Post by: ahmedjamal1998 on November 20, 2017, 09:14:12 PM
First of all, if any government in the world plans to create a crypto asset, it won't through an ICO of course.
ICOs are used by individuals or organizations that don't have enough funds to start a certain project so they start raising funds from the public.

A county doesn't need that I guess specially a well financially developed one like Russia.
But even if they do actually create a crypto coin. What's the point ?

The main reason why most of us are into them is it being decentralized. Creating a crypto currency that is backed and controlled by a government is really nothing different than your normal credit card. I don't think anyone who knows and has enough info about btc will ever be interested in such projects.

Plus what is the benefit ? It won't attract anyone of the public. Telling them to leave their cash and use our digital form of money that has the same value of your cash. DUH ?

I still believe that all these are just rumors that were created by some day-dreaming guy and have been rotating the forum and popping up from time to time for no reason.


Title: Re: Is Putin going to run his own ICO?
Post by: byvalyi on November 20, 2017, 09:16:14 PM
Putin Orders the Issue of Russia’s National Cryptocurrency – the Cryptoruble, lmfao this sounds just wrong to me.
They have cloned facebook, now it's bitcoins turn ... i can just lol

Cloned version of FB is better than FB :) However i agree with you. Russian cryptoruble is a joke and not more...


Title: Re: Is Putin going to run his own ICO?
Post by: derji_udar on November 20, 2017, 09:25:20 PM
Is not true. :o


Title: Re: Is Putin going to run his own ICO?
Post by: PORN_coin on November 20, 2017, 09:27:57 PM
it's probably a joke
so I would not take it seriously


Title: Re: Is Putin going to run his own ICO?
Post by: ActiveMars on November 20, 2017, 10:01:01 PM
Makes sense that governments will try to replicate crypto currencies in the fiat system. I imagine all currencies being digitized in the future with bitcoin being one of the options that people can choose to use.

Sounds too perfect. I guess that if government will create own cryptocurrencies — bitcoin will be illegal and all its users - criminals!


Title: Re: Is Putin going to run his own ICO?
Post by: ajmapalo22 on November 20, 2017, 10:22:46 PM
It doesn't matter if Russia will have their own coins or ICO as long as it will not affect bitcoin it would be just like any other ICO unless they will consider this as their official digital curreny because with that the demand of bitcoin might be affected and also the pricing. This country is like  China which is good in copying things from other countries


Title: Re: Is Putin going to run his own ICO?
Post by: cryp24x on November 20, 2017, 10:26:36 PM
Makes sense that governments will try to replicate crypto currencies in the fiat system. I imagine all currencies being digitized in the future with bitcoin being one of the options that people can choose to use.

Sounds too perfect. I guess that if government will create own cryptocurrencies — bitcoin will be illegal and all its users - criminals!

Does not make sense. I do not know how you come into that conclusion, I would say it would be like in fiat system where money is backed by gold reserved (thinking Bitcoin is a digital gold) then probably bitcoin will be used to back up those cryptocurrency  ;D .


Title: Re: Is Putin going to run his own ICO?
Post by: bitcoms on November 20, 2017, 10:29:03 PM
It's joke, I think he has sufficient money and no need going to run ICO.


Title: Re: Is Putin going to run his own ICO?
Post by: DroidR17A on November 20, 2017, 10:31:49 PM
Russia isn't the only government planning on issuing a fiat tied cryptocurrency. These fiat cryptos will be price fixed and will not be launched via ICOs. They'll be the equivalent of central mint issued currencies, tied to the nation state banks.


Title: Re: Is Putin going to run his own ICO?
Post by: gbenou74 on November 20, 2017, 10:39:36 PM
Salut tous
Moi je veux savoir qu'est que c'est que

ICO


Title: Re: Is Putin going to run his own ICO?
Post by: Shangerian on November 21, 2017, 09:58:08 AM
Russia always controls the cash flows of people. ICO will also be held under the control of the authorities


Title: Re: Is Putin going to run his own ICO?
Post by: nuttynoah on November 21, 2017, 10:01:08 AM
Putin Orders the Issue of Russia’s National Cryptocurrency – the Cryptoruble, lmfao this sounds just wrong to me.
They have cloned facebook, now it's bitcoins turn ... i can just lol
I've heard the cryptoruble will be back by gold.
Maybe we'll see a lot of commodity backed cryptos in the near future.


Title: Re: Is Putin going to run his own ICO?
Post by: DroidR17A on November 22, 2017, 08:48:55 PM
Salut tous
Moi je veux savoir qu'est que c'est que

ICO

Salut gbenou, ICO veux l'offre initiale de pièces/tokens. Tu peux trouver un guide de toute la terminologie crypto ici, sur le Lexique Francais: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2302417.0


Title: Re: Is Putin going to run his own ICO?
Post by: Mt Pelerin on November 22, 2017, 10:06:30 PM

This is just the digital version actually of their national currency nothing more nothing less. And this can actually be a trend for many months to come until they would realize of the foolishness of such a decision. The big reason why we have cryptocurrency is to get away from the control and biases of the governments to do whatever they want to do at the expense of the people. When you have a cryptocurrency controlled by the government this can be a big joke and will end as a mediocre attempt.


Totally agree! This is a trend in a way for many countries are thinking of taking this step. But you are right that cryptocurrency is something that will help us get away from the control of the governments and financial institutions as we know them.


Title: Re: Is Putin going to run his own ICO?
Post by: alex_shemesh on November 22, 2017, 10:16:28 PM
Makes all the sense for governments to go cryptocurrency. Governments in general do not want cash going around.
Japan was first to mention that digital currency allows to understand money movement on unprecedented level.
I hope Putin buys out waves and pushes it through the roof:)


Title: Re: Is Putin going to run his own ICO?
Post by: invincible49 on November 22, 2017, 10:53:10 PM
There was this kind of speculation before the recent BRICS summit. Governments will try to make their own cryptocurrency to counter their people's interest in other cryptocurrency as they know bitcoin or other altcoins can't be defeated in the modern era of technology and internet, so they will be looking for their own altcoins to be the one being used mostly. These governments seem to grasp everything from sky to bottom of the ocean to virtual world.


Title: Re: Is Putin going to run his own ICO?
Post by: Argoo on November 23, 2017, 05:33:23 AM
I would like to see what characteristics this cryptor will have and how it will go inside Russia, since it is unlikely to be of interest to the world community. We, I believe, need a different practice with national centralized digital coins. This way we will be able to better understand and evaluate the advantages of decentralized crypto currency. So let Putin experiment. And we'll see what happens from this.


Title: Re: Is Putin going to run his own ICO?
Post by: Palmholder on November 23, 2017, 05:50:17 AM
   Cryptoruble is just a rumor. Yea, Russian Central Bank representative said: "We plan to create cryptorubble", but it looks like a joke. How a currency may be cryptic if Central Bank operates it? They are making different injections to the information field for purposes they only know, maybe they want to pull some bitcoin users to their new "cryptic" rubble, make some chaos in citizens minds. So I beleive such authorities want to operate money transfers instead of making anything out their control


Title: Re: Is Putin going to run his own ICO?
Post by: haiyou on November 23, 2017, 05:56:40 AM
Regardless of whether the news is true or false, what we need to understand is that since such news often appears, it shows that more and more people or organizations are paying attention to and developing the technology of blockchain. It also proves that the district Blockchain technology in the future Internet security will have an important place


Title: Re: Is Putin going to run his own ICO?
Post by: krishnapramod on November 23, 2017, 06:54:21 AM
Another state-sponsored digital currency with the same properties of Fiat. Russian deputy finance minister has suggested to change cryptoruble to cyber-ruble because cyber-ruble has fewer negative connotations and anarchist-freedom-loving meaning than cryptoruble and that's what it would be, to compete against ruble and replace cash with cryptoruble to streamline the payment of taxes.

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If the owner is unable to declare the source of cryptorubles, a flat tax of 13% will be levied when converting the cryptocurrency into Russian rubles. Similarly, an automatic 13% tax slab will also be levied on the earned difference of transactions involving buying and selling a crypotoruble.

The state-sponsored cryptocurrencies system is just getting started, China or India would be the next country to launch their own cryptocurrency. The adoption of these centralized cryptocurrencies specially in a cash-based economy would depend on how they are going to be different than the existing electronic payment systems.