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Title: Scam or real ico
Post by: Jameseversmile on October 18, 2017, 08:12:51 PM
Their are so many ongoing ico, am finding it hard to differentiate between scam and good ico, which one do you think is worth investing in?


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: blacktux88 on October 18, 2017, 08:21:40 PM
was disccues hundred times !
you have to talk with them after that you could decide if you want to invest or not..


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: Iamlegit4sure on October 18, 2017, 08:24:52 PM
i can tell you i invested in electroneum. I do not think it is a scam , their team is very transparent and this ico is on the news and many websites. You can check the link in my signature for more info :)


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: crazyhashmanz on October 18, 2017, 08:24:58 PM
the goal of the project, team experience, earned money these are the 3 most important things.
you should research the project thoroughly


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: chocopapaya on October 18, 2017, 08:41:29 PM
The word "Scam" is used too often nowadays.

Yes, there are ico's that straight up steal your money.
With a minimum amount of research you can spot these a mile away.

Most icos aren't a straight up scam but a result of an incompetent team, a shit product or even a product that hasn't been made yet, no development, mismanagement of funds, and on and on.

You know, problems that failed businesses all have in common.

Approach an ico like a real investor, not a wishful thinker who hopes, "This will make me a millionaire by next year!!!"

Would you give your money to a company that has little to no experience, has grammatical errors on their page, doesn't have a development roadmap, copies others projects or ideas, asks you to invest but keeps most of the wealth of the company to themselves, doesn't have anything to show for their work, won't communicate with you in a professional way? etc?


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: Smoothmazi on October 18, 2017, 08:52:45 PM
All ICO's are scams until they start being regulated >:(. Some kid with his apple mac is soon gonna create another Ico and scam lots of folks again... >:(


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: prehisto on October 18, 2017, 09:01:03 PM
All ICO's are scams until they start being regulated >:(. Some kid with his apple mac is soon gonna create another Ico and scam lots of folks again... >:(

This topic has been arising more and more recently but the statement "All ICO's are scams until they start being regulated" is not true because they are lots of ICO s which are working on their projects from their hearts and very hard thus you cant say that they are scammers just because there is no regulation in place.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: dead_m92 on October 19, 2017, 01:43:54 AM
Most of these ico are created to scam so many people and for rising the price of a useless coin and project, I believe that most of them are overrated, since a lot of the people invest in them to get much money from a single investment.
I do not suggest you to be in one of these ico's, since you are probably going to be scammed, a lot of ico's have been announced in the last days, and most of them are shady projects.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: subG on October 19, 2017, 01:48:54 AM
It depends what your definition of a real ico is?  I would say a scam ico is a project that is ran by a person with no intentions of following through what they have stated in their white paper.  They pretty much just run off with your money.  You just need to research about the team and that will help eliminate some scams. 


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: kissme09 on October 19, 2017, 01:54:17 AM
Not every ICO is scammed, there are many ICOs that go along with it's schedule and a lot of people make some money from it. If you are an ICO enthusiast, before you invest in it, learn about it. Before the ICO was developed, there was a lot of information for your marketing campaign. This article on reddit on bitcointalk everything you have can see that all goes as scheduled that it out so that you can make a decision whether to put money on it or not. I never buy ICO because it is very likely to scam or maybe not very close to a betting


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: defunctec on October 19, 2017, 02:15:02 AM

My current 2 favorite are Etherparty and Worldcore. Worldcore is an existing product with a large base of users. From non-ICO coins I think Waves and Metal still have room to increase in value.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: samlaode on October 19, 2017, 02:27:47 AM
I think that almost ICO is scam that is why I invest my money with them a small amount or never. I see a lot of ICOs in this year and the number of successful ICOs are very low. Nothing is absolute, some ICOs very potential.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: tokencorgi on October 19, 2017, 03:19:54 AM
Do research on promising ico and avoid scammers.
I am looking at 2x ico return, heres my presale list

1. Quantstamp - security
2. MindsportsIO -chess,poker,go
3. Dmarket - gamers


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: gregall on October 19, 2017, 03:31:59 AM
Already did Unikoingold. Solid deal, but more long-term.

Anyone have thoughts on cybermiles???


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: Franko30 on October 19, 2017, 11:55:17 AM
Their are so many ongoing ico, am finding it hard to differentiate between scam and good ico, which one do you think is worth investing in?
I can suggest you Confideal, they will start ICO in November. I check it in my scam indicators, and I think this projects can't be scam. I hope, because i plan to invest in. Very understandable idea, good team and background, demo version of products..looks good


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: IAMHardCoin299 on October 19, 2017, 12:12:22 PM
Their are so many ongoing ico, am finding it hard to differentiate between scam and good ico, which one do you think is worth investing in?
I can suggest you Confideal, they will start ICO in November. I check it in my scam indicators, and I think this projects can't be scam. I hope, because i plan to invest in. Very understandable idea, good team and background, demo version of products..looks good

But we dont see ICO from cover , u must research about them.
Research about their team , and see the roadmap.
Research about some ICO for investment is important , because some ICO can be scam.
But i recommend u see ICO from this website , maybe you find a good reference.
This : https://www.coinschedule.com/
Hope this can help you 


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: on October 19, 2017, 12:56:53 PM
The word "Scam" is used too often nowadays.

Yes, there are ico's that straight up steal your money.
With a minimum amount of research you can spot these a mile away.

Most icos aren't a straight up scam but a result of an incompetent team, a shit product or even a product that hasn't been made yet, no development, mismanagement of funds, and on and on.

You know, problems that failed businesses all have in common.

Approach an ico like a real investor, not a wishful thinker who hopes, "This will make me a millionaire by next year!!!"

Would you give your money to a company that has little to no experience, has grammatical errors on their page, doesn't have a development roadmap, copies others projects or ideas, asks you to invest but keeps most of the wealth of the company to themselves, doesn't have anything to show for their work, won't communicate with you in a professional way? etc?

You're totally right in the fact people are just giving these projects way too much money..it's just getting crazy.

Do your research and invest through using that.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: silent17 on October 19, 2017, 01:20:42 PM
Well, if your going to invest in one of the ICO, the easiest way to determined it for me is by checking the thread itself, the more the participant, the more chances that it will be successful, You can also check on their white page, read it very carefully, if you can assume that the project is really realistic, I think its not a scam.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: BlackPanda on October 19, 2017, 01:35:14 PM
Their are so many ongoing ico, am finding it hard to differentiate between scam and good ico, which one do you think is worth investing in?
If you want a successful project then you should pay attention to many aspects that can show that the project is made with the real purpose is to introduce the project and also make the investors benefit. look at starting from the vision and mission of the project, what will be done by the project, the cooperation to be achieved during the project is implemented and the most important is who the team joined in the project. I think that's enough to ensure that the project can at least succeed and provide a profit dividend to investors. use good analysis to get good results too.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: wayaneka on October 19, 2017, 01:41:01 PM
I think it's not too hard to find a good and potential  ICO, if we  learn and look for the review of each project, with actively looking for reviews by studying the purpose of the project, to know who the team founder and whether the goal of project  will really solve the problem. In addition to study the whitepaper, we can find other reviews in this forum, github, on youtube and telegram group ICO discussion. And usually if their official group telegram many members there, the ICO is likely to be successfull and legit.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: CTO@MyBitMine on October 19, 2017, 02:17:48 PM
Nobody will tell you that ICO scam or really promising project. You should do your own researches. First of all find promising and simple ICO then read whitepaper several times after that do some research about team and advisors and their reputation.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: Btcvilla on October 19, 2017, 02:36:05 PM
Their are so many ongoing ico, am finding it hard to differentiate between scam and good ico, which one do you think is worth investing in?


experience and knowledge is vital to your choice. every choice you will take, should always be accompanied by knowledge and research. so I think that is the main capital when you choose an ico to invest.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: JeffBrad12 on October 19, 2017, 02:48:20 PM
Their are so many ongoing ico, am finding it hard to differentiate between scam and good ico, which one do you think is worth investing in?
I suggest you about the eidoo project which already raised a lot of the interest from the investors. The ico already ended but you can try to buy the token in the exchange site. This should be a good move for you.
That will be so difficult to determine about the best project because they are all come with the existing idea that means if their idea were not unique to solve something that really gives big impact in the crypto.
Many aspects must be determined to reach the best project.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: Anndrianno on October 19, 2017, 02:53:42 PM
99% of ICO's are either scam or crap. But once, which are discussed by public and have a ready made product/platform should be considered worth investing


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: angela24 on October 19, 2017, 03:04:41 PM
Definitely there is much more chance of scam in selecting ico. You can follow this step that may help you to choose legit and good for investment.
1. Choose ICO
2. Collect their government registration details, from the origin country website and whether it is active or not and which members are officials.
3. After that verify company, consider there category, team strength, white paper, roadmap, project strength, social profile and activities, news about the company and ico, member’s profiles etc.
4. Who are the private investors.
5. Response time of the team.
6. Research about memeber’s previous experience.
7. Guess Excepted ROI of the investment.
8. Communicate with experienced and newbies investors of that project.
9. Collect personal reviews non-officially from investors.
10. Hope of the investors also let under consideration.
11. Collect data from ico rating platform.

But still choosing ico is a riskful  job. Do it with your own risk.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: mich on October 19, 2017, 03:12:51 PM
Their are so many ongoing ico, am finding it hard to differentiate between scam and good ico, which one do you think is worth investing in?

now everyone's profile is being published on the internet. For this reason, there is a good need to investigate who is on the team. First of all, this is very important. if you go into a project without any research, you will definitely lose.in the recent projects, really good and qualified people are now on the team.a project may not be really perfect. slow or too late to update or share information. but if the project is real, it will show itself on the market. just waiting for this day will win you. but you can not find any information about the team anywhere. definitely get away from there.





Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: DanWalker on October 19, 2017, 04:25:57 PM
I believe that team is more than a half of success. You should check project members first. Find them social medias, make sure that it real accounts. After this check their whitepaper and community opinion and its intensity. At last talk with the team, ask them any question that you have.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: beetlejam on October 19, 2017, 05:32:30 PM
You have to do your research. I always look for:-

- Team - The team needs to be good. Strong developers, good marketing team, experienced CEO's. I also feel that if they have more nationalities with different languages the better. People focus only on the dev team, but you need to look at the whole package

- Whitepaper - This is what the company is aiming to do, if this doesn't make sense, is too ambitious or is vague it is a bad sign.

- Social media and thread - If they are interactive, creating their own content and talking to potential investors. If they are very quiet, clearly buying articles / likes then it isn't the best. Also if they have been around for a while that is a bonus

- Concept - Do they need an altcoin in their system? is there a finite amount of them? If they do not need one, they are simply doing it to raise money.

This is a good starting point, and if you get through all these and you are interested in the project, join their bounty campaign. No rush to jump in if their ICO is legit.



Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: rfeiner on October 19, 2017, 05:39:53 PM
I believe that team is more than a half of success. You should check project members first. Find them social medias, make sure that it real accounts. After this check their whitepaper and community opinion and its intensity. At last talk with the team, ask them any question that you have.

This is good advice. If the members of the team won't talk to you directly, then something is definitely amiss.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: kryptqnick on October 19, 2017, 06:48:43 PM
Nobody will tell you that ICO scam or really promising project. You should do your own researches. First of all find promising and simple ICO then read whitepaper several times after that do some research about team and advisors and their reputation.
Why an ICO has to be simple? The ideas behind it better be big, or otherwise nobody would want to invest in it. Though you are right about simplicity in terms of possibility to describe the idea in a simple and understandable way. This will encourage people to buy the coin, for it will make them feel proud that they understood a complicated idea. Who knows, maybe segwit was chosen instead of bitcoin unlimited, because it was a lot more understandable.
As for promising icos, apart from whitepaper and dev team it is worth looking at partners and roadmap of the project.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: cryptochr on October 20, 2017, 06:04:47 AM
Am currently getting few ICO on Linkedin every day. Mostly for pre-IcO since then they have te funds to launch a display marketing based campaign. Anyway to the point, most are useless, bad websites, terible ideas, no marketing budget, no concept, just forget it. Those are easy to spot.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: Franko30 on October 20, 2017, 01:58:38 PM
Their are so many ongoing ico, am finding it hard to differentiate between scam and good ico, which one do you think is worth investing in?
I can suggest you Confideal, they will start ICO in November. I check it in my scam indicators, and I think this projects can't be scam. I hope, because i plan to invest in. Very understandable idea, good team and background, demo version of products..looks good

But we dont see ICO from cover , u must research about them.
Research about their team , and see the roadmap.
Research about some ICO for investment is important , because some ICO can be scam.
But i recommend u see ICO from this website , maybe you find a good reference.
This : https://www.coinschedule.com/
Hope this can help you 
YES, and as i said I made a research and sure that Confideal isn't a scam, and good project to invest in


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: AiloveYouks21 on October 20, 2017, 02:17:06 PM
Actually very simple to know a project scam or not, see whether the project already has a finished product or not, that's is


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: Pierre 2 on October 20, 2017, 03:45:30 PM
You should definitely look into their linkedin profiles and see their abilities. That's one thing.
Another: you should probably review market's situation by asking questions like: "Do we really need thşs in our life?" These will help in general.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: chaosfourever on October 20, 2017, 04:31:29 PM
You should go and do the research. Everyone will tell you a different on to invest in, but you need to research it and look into the project. Scam is used a lot lately, but most are not scams and Fudders are everywhere. Do what you feel is right and research. If it all checks out then invest what you can afford to potentially lose.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: yura888 on October 20, 2017, 04:44:38 PM
It is necessary to pay attention to the very idea of the project and the team. And also on Adviser


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: romeo111 on October 20, 2017, 07:04:45 PM
Yes here is some ICO are scam, other side have many good ICOs project.
such as #Playkey #Spectre ,#Earth token  #Utrust #Home Token #CarTaxi etc.
I think if you want a successful project then you should attention for each project.
First you check and study ICO's project whitepaper, roadmap, ERC20 token approval, it's root or platform and team member details.
Then you will accept and invest this project ICO.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: RieL on October 20, 2017, 07:12:03 PM
Some of them or maybe most of them are being used for scam rising its price for a useless coin /project.some of them are kinda overated for me because people invest from it on single investment.i dont want you to join to those since you must be just scam.there is a lot of ICOs today mostly are shady projects



Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: Creating N Action on October 20, 2017, 07:27:13 PM
Not all ICO's are scam because almost ICO's are real and they work hard on their projects and to invest more money in the future.
Bit you must learn about ICO's, get more information and you must research the projects to avoid scam. Check the whitepapers and identify if their are more participants.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: beerlover on October 20, 2017, 07:42:57 PM
All ICO's are scams until they start being regulated >:(. Some kid with his apple mac is soon gonna create another Ico and scam lots of folks again... >:(
I am pretty sure you have been scammed by an ICO before. ;D Not all are scams anyway as so many of them are really doing pretty good right now. However, the regulation will only help those who always find it hard to make research on their own to find the best project they can invest in.

Most people today do not even research more on the project, once they just see the graphic design on the site and all the English, and plenty of promises, they just fall for it and that is just pretty bad for a reasonable investor to do.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: asdalani on October 21, 2017, 09:13:55 PM
Nobody will tell you that ICO scam or really promising project. You should do your own researches. First of all find promising and simple ICO then read whitepaper several times after that do some research about team and advisors and their reputation.
The people that will tell you that the ICO is a scam would be the ones that are usually trying to make you purchase another coin lol.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: Xclusive5 on October 21, 2017, 09:38:12 PM
Have been writing about difference between scam and real ICO, my advise is you make your findings very well before you invest in any ICO. Sometimes a Real ICO in the initial stage can turn into scam.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: abcd7 on October 21, 2017, 09:46:00 PM
guys i thing there is a lot of haters for icos stop saying that all icos is scams.... try to understand what investment is , it deepens from you if you be a good or bad investor , dont put the blame to ALL ICOS put the blame to your self because you are invest without good research . .. . . :)


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: ApoctoCrypto on October 21, 2017, 10:00:02 PM
To tell the difference between a scam and a real ico takes research and time. If you are willing to put in the time and research, investors of ICOs can see over 1000% returns on their investments.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: Jarr on October 21, 2017, 10:43:38 PM
Their are so many ongoing ico, am finding it hard to differentiate between scam and good ico, which one do you think is worth investing in?
i also can not select which one legitimate ICO Projects but usually i analyze how much the project get from pre-ICO when it's reach high target it means the project is interested for people. i think most people put their trust on it. i just follow them.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: GreatOrchid on October 21, 2017, 10:44:03 PM
Dont invest in ico's right now, they are trying to collect as much bitcoins as they can in order to receive the free bitcoin gold in four days when the fork is done, so stay away from them until that day so you can avoid to be scammed by those scammy programs.
Why dont you invest in legit projects like the ones who are already listed and tradeables in the most knowed and trusted exchanges? i dont get it, it is absurd because you can still make a lot of money from them.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: redhondaxrm125 on October 22, 2017, 12:00:46 AM
Their are so many ongoing ico, am finding it hard to differentiate between scam and good ico, which one do you think is worth investing in?

You realky should try investimg more time in reading before investing hard earned money on things you do not understand that much yet.

Here's a tip:
Learn about who the developers are and their team. Research and find out if they have great feedback or not. So that if they dont have great feed back, you wouldn't have to continue to the next step which is reading their white oaoer and their ann threads.
These methods can really save you a lot of time and money.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: V1saya on October 22, 2017, 12:10:24 AM
Their are so many ongoing ico, am finding it hard to differentiate between scam and good ico, which one do you think is worth investing in?

The number of ICOs are increasing regularly. The harder it tells whether a certain ICO is going to be successful or not. Why not try to choose the ICO of a project that has already done a part of its objectives? GET protocol or GUTS had already sold several thousand tickets. I guess this is the edge of this ICO.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: Similificator on October 23, 2017, 03:36:45 AM
Their are so many ongoing ico, am finding it hard to differentiate between scam and good ico, which one do you think is worth investing in?


There really are a lot of ICOs going on right now. While most of all these ICOs are clearly trashy coins, there are some that are truly legitimate. Now, one technique i am using is that when you already have a list of coins tgat interests you or you have heard about, go and try researching about the developing team first before reading through the white paper and the ann thread. So you can save time.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: desi92 on October 23, 2017, 05:16:07 AM
Some scam and some not. There are also many ico good, we can invest in there.
Before investing, make sure you read the whitepaper, what is the goal of the ico.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: FrankNoland on October 23, 2017, 05:35:57 AM
Their are so many ongoing ico, am finding it hard to differentiate between scam and good ico, which one do you think is worth investing in?
Its very hard to determine whether an ICO is a scam or its legit since they are some scams and they are legit ones going on around. I think the best tool that can help you determine whether an ICO is a scam or not is reading, researching and investigating by yourself.

Don't depend on other investors to research for you since we use different tools when conducting our research, and some tools will not work for some investors. Understand the idea and the team behind the project, check if the customer services is responsive on emails and social media platforms and finally make your own judgement with all the results that you have found.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: DaddyMonsi on October 23, 2017, 05:48:52 AM
There are ICOs that just duplicate what others already did, they just enhance and ask for funding (ICO). You can check who's the people behind the ICO, are they really live people or just photos of random people. Next, is look at the white paper as I've mentioned earlier, some projects are just a copy of the previous and its possible that the white paper is also copied from another. Then Look at the road map, how long are they planning to execute the project, bottom line is, is it really feasible or is the project to good to be true.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: phantailaptopbl on October 23, 2017, 06:03:04 AM
No hard to see them, you should view website, roadmap, team dev. A big project have full information. Scam project havent full info


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: kevoh on October 23, 2017, 06:10:41 AM
Only you the investor can determine if an ICO I'd worthy to be called scam or to be invested in through personal research.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: Nerman on October 23, 2017, 06:21:01 AM
The word "Scam" is used too often nowadays.

Yes, there are ico's that straight up steal your money.
With a minimum amount of research you can spot these a mile away.

Most icos aren't a straight up scam but a result of an incompetent team, a shit product or even a product that hasn't been made yet, no development, mismanagement of funds, and on and on.

You know, problems that failed businesses all have in common.

Approach an ico like a real investor, not a wishful thinker who hopes, "This will make me a millionaire by next year!!!"

Would you give your money to a company that has little to no experience, has grammatical errors on their page, doesn't have a development roadmap, copies others projects or ideas, asks you to invest but keeps most of the wealth of the company to themselves, doesn't have anything to show for their work, won't communicate with you in a professional way? etc?

Exactly not all ico arr scam some has the greatest intention but just did not work as well as they wish. This why you need to also check who are working behind the project. Check if the company is competent enough to create a great plan  and execute the plan. Buying coins in ico are just buying penny stock company may be a diamond in a rough or it can be just another coins that you wish you never heard.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: Darwin02 on October 23, 2017, 06:38:38 AM
Their are so many ongoing ico, am finding it hard to differentiate between scam and good ico, which one do you think is worth investing in?
i will not suggest to invest in any ICO right now most of the successful ICO is in the lowest price right now so meaning all those investors also in lost for investing in thier project. only few ICO is real that will give you good return after investing   i prefer to buy ICO coin from exchange than investing in the ICO.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: Kplus on October 23, 2017, 06:43:48 AM
ICO is so dangerous with newbie like me. Give me some point to consider that scam or not, Please.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: rockid on October 23, 2017, 07:27:43 AM
Please stop labeling companies "scam" if you haven't done research. This produces too much noise that makes it hard for new investors to make the right choices.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: Jenna_G on October 23, 2017, 06:55:07 PM
I think you need to give time to yourself to think and to choose the best ico and to identify a scam. So my advice - take a look to upcoming ico.  I find one, that should start in November, I also check it for scam, and imho it isn't. You can google it, but I recommend to join their telegram chat Confideal - @confidealioeng


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: Argoo on October 24, 2017, 04:36:28 AM
Now there is a very interesting and unusual ICO, which does not issue coins, and pays for participation in the campaign in the etherium. It's called Milcoin. This investment in agriculture in the Voronezh region of Russia. Most of the team is naturally Russian. Even the study of this project does not give an idea of ​​whether it will be a fraud or not. Although the probability of this is quite high. Especially given its features. Nevertheless, you just have to choose whether to participate or not.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: VeeraS on October 24, 2017, 05:30:39 AM
Their are so many ongoing ico, am finding it hard to differentiate between scam and good ico, which one do you think is worth investing in?

sometimes not all ico it gives results commensurate with what you expect. there is a scam and there are many who succeed. all that is required with knowledge of the crypto world. so I guess every time we have to learn something new. including for ico


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: WBVC on October 24, 2017, 05:57:19 AM
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Oct 21 update contains grades for...

Fiinu (https://fiinu.com)
Oyster (https://oyster.ws)
Secure Identity Ledger (https://secureidentityledger.com)
FOS (https://www.fos.ai)
Pally (https://www.pally.co)
Quantstamp (https://quantstamp.com)
Verif-y (https://www.verif-y.io)
Wireline Fund (https://www.wireline.io/#/)
Wyrify (http://wyrify.com)
Alloy (https://alloy.rewards.network)
Blockv (https://blockv.io)
Divi Project (https://diviproject.org)
Eros (https://eroscoin.org)
Exhasta (https://exhasta.com)
Gameflip (https://gameflip.com)
Hydrominer (https://www.hydrominer.org)
Kryptopy (https://www.kryptopy.com)
Lucyd (https://lucyd.co)

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Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: redcrystal on October 24, 2017, 06:06:21 AM
I don't think you'll really get an 'honest' answer here, too many people trying to "sell" their own product or make gains. I'd say independent research is always the best answer.
Look for something that is new and innovative, that you can see real world use for. Try to avoid the company that's repackaged the same product 50 other companies have created.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: fedor3327 on October 24, 2017, 06:32:16 AM
This is the brave new world of opportunity. When it was the "gold rush" hundreds of years ago there were scammers selling fake gold. Also known as fools gold.

Avoid "fools ICO's"!!


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: jostorres on October 24, 2017, 09:17:29 AM
Their are so many ongoing ico, am finding it hard to differentiate between scam and good ico, which one do you think is worth investing in?
Have you even bothered to look through the thread to find an answer to your question before even asking.
Lots of people have kindly given advice on how you can select the best ICO and end up not being a victim of scammers. Start with the team first and see if they have built a project before or they have had some solid experience before, then look into the project to see if it is realistic and worth investing. That is all!


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: Rahip on October 24, 2017, 09:35:54 AM
I always look at the project reality.
It's hard to know if an Ico is real or scam.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: creeps on October 24, 2017, 09:41:12 AM
This is the brave new world of opportunity. When it was the "gold rush" hundreds of years ago there were scammers selling fake gold. Also known as fools gold.

Avoid "fools ICO's"!!

Specially when ICO's run by newbie people, I was a victim of scam ICO, all of my effort and money are just wasted and that event will surely wake me up when joining ICO's. A lot of scam but still there are good ICO's to support for, don't be scared to invest just be more careful when you are investing. At the end cryptocurrencies is the future and you should be part of it.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: Michae1k on October 24, 2017, 05:39:28 PM
every person should have some point that are significant for them in choosing ICO.
my list - 1.Team and it background, 2.Timeline of projects a clearly and easily to understand, 3. Have partnership with fonds or organizations, 4.in WP there is information abt amount of money to each stage, 5. Good support in social media, and good customer service in official resources.
For this reason I choose Confi, https://icobench.com/ico/confideal. Good reputation of project and team, good rating also. Now they start bounty campaign


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: illiki23 on October 24, 2017, 05:51:04 PM
Lots of things make me wary, but I have learned to stay away from some red flags:

1. No Github / open source development.  Sure there are coins out there that did well with private source but the presence of an active github with code helps me identify ICOs that will actually release a product.  Exceptions to this case are people who fork other code bases and make minimal changes, but you can generally identify these by looking at the source code.

2. Weak or no utility.

3. Very high hyped up videos / flashy flier to white paper ratio.  White papers are short and flashy.

4. Anonymous devs.

That is why today I decided to join the Oyster signature campaign and throw a few nickels at their coin once released.  The coin has great potential (I hate how the web is ran largely on advertising generated funding) and has a Github and decent devs.

:P


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: Asmus003 on October 24, 2017, 05:56:19 PM
I investigate team and Roadmap. How many people are in team? Experience? Participating in other projects? Roadmap must has a clear stages and final goal. I have to understand how team would fulfill the idea...


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: beerlover on October 25, 2017, 05:37:52 AM
Now there is a very interesting and unusual ICO, which does not issue coins, and pays for participation in the campaign in the etherium. It's called Milcoin. This investment in agriculture in the Voronezh region of Russia. Most of the team is naturally Russian. Even the study of this project does not give an idea of ​​whether it will be a fraud or not. Although the probability of this is quite high. Especially given its features. Nevertheless, you just have to choose whether to participate or not.
There are just some coins that screams scam from afar. It is just left for every investors to thread carefully to make sure they do not fall a victim for such coins. Every prospectful coin will have a great team behind them and not just some random team that apparently looks like they want to suck you dry.

There are some coins I have invested in that obviously does not have a very huge known team but looks serious and already have a product, with a lovely idea they are willing to build, I can always give such a shot egconfido but there are just some that won't even give you anything to capitalize on and I really do wonder how people tend to fall for them, like they used voodoo on them or something.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: GeForce99 on October 25, 2017, 05:42:41 AM
I've been reading up on an upcoming ICO called 88 Coin.  They are promising some real pioneering in Crypto.  Saw them listed on ICO Alert. 

Seems like a good bet.  Any thoughts from you all on this one?



Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: Fundalini on October 25, 2017, 07:03:36 AM
I look first for the rating of the project on icobench--most of the time a rating of 4.0 has a small chance to be a scam. You also might want to consider reading their whitepaper to understand more about the team and learn what the project really wants to achieve. Most of the time, unbelievable goals which are too farfetched would be your tell.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: InvisibilityFP on October 25, 2017, 07:11:11 AM
if want to see where scam and good, learn about their concept, original or only cloning
their team background, whitepaper and etc but if u want to invest follow most people coz they already learn about that
also locking review in youtube that very helpful


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: MiF on October 25, 2017, 07:26:01 AM
Their are so many ongoing ico, am finding it hard to differentiate between scam and good ico, which one do you think is worth investing in?

My technique before joining an ICO is to check who is the campaign manager then I will review his forum rank and trust reputations. I choose the ranks of legendary and hero with no negative trust because i believed a good campaign manager is always to see or review the ICO carefully if not a scam or ugly because his reputation is at stake. Most of the good campaign manager are commonly hired by the legit and good ICO that is why i have my good campaign manager in my list.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: gilangIDR on October 25, 2017, 08:09:41 AM
if want to see where scam and good, learn about their concept, original or only cloning
their team background, whitepaper and etc but if u want to invest follow most people coz they already learn about that
also locking review in youtube that very helpful
Yes doing the analysis is the best thing to do, you can be smart in choosing the right coin and not. I may disagree with the review on youtube because it can be manipulated, I am more amenable when looking at the reviews in this forum because there are some members who have a good reputation so I can see which information is reliable and not.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: Turkiwi on October 25, 2017, 10:16:31 AM
Their are so many ongoing ico, am finding it hard to differentiate between scam and good ico, which one do you think is worth investing in?

if you think there is a good chance that one of these coins is a scam, it probably is. First thing to notice is if what the project is promising sounds "too good to be true", if that is the case, it's more likely a scam. If the business model of the coin (read the whitepaper!) sounds like it's something genuine and it makes sense to you, then you should check whether that project is backed by a good team as well. If they have experience in the sector in which they try to develop, if they have the financial means to pay their obligations and if the idea is any good to start with. Most of these questions can be answered in the social media channels of these projects, so it's a good idea to simply join on and ask the founds right away. If the communication is good and what they answer makes sense to you, then it's more likely that the project is serious, which means you're more likely to profit out of it.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: enawati on October 25, 2017, 12:05:30 PM
In my ipinion Worldcore ICO is one of the trusted ICO, I did look for some review of this company , and found this company is legit one. This company has professional team and the development since 2013, and they has more than 7,000 client around the world.
Most important to differentate the ICO is to know detail their team founder.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: anzach87 on October 25, 2017, 12:08:22 PM
All ICOS is not a scam , most of them as unsuccessful but that dont means that is a scam as well


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: moamin77 on October 25, 2017, 12:09:27 PM
The majority of folks (including myself) wouldn't give you names, instead they would advise you to do your own due diligence on how to differentiate between 'good' and 'bad/fake' ICOs

This is also a great article that can help:

 https://en.insider.pro/tutorials/2017-08-14/how-choose-ico-investors-guide/  (https://en.insider.pro/tutorials/2017-08-14/how-choose-ico-investors-guide/)


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: pendekar cinta on October 25, 2017, 12:15:39 PM
Their are so many ongoing ico, am finding it hard to differentiate between scam and good ico, which one do you think is worth investing in?
it is also very difficult to predict whether an ico to be a scam or not but that should be emphasized us in anticipating it can be seen from how many investors who send some of his property into an ico.certainly solution that will provide fresh air also for participants who others at the end of the campaign later.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: smartJEV on October 25, 2017, 12:21:19 PM
You need to have ability to check what about founders says local media and local community. Thats very important, as they in most cases can say much more, than nice linkedin profile :)


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: trecore4 on October 25, 2017, 02:14:15 PM


Their are so many ongoing ico, am finding it hard to differentiate between scam and good ico, which one do you think is worth investing in?



Just learn to read about the team and also try to discuss the project in the ANN thread of that particular ICO you are talking about. If everything seems to be positive in those discussion and if the team is experienced ICO management then you have good chance of hitting the right ICO really. Despite of this you should go after the publicity reach if that particular ICO. I mean if the name of that particular ICO is everywhere then just take a shot and invest into it, you will benefit because the marketing makes sure they will receive large volumes of investors. So there are many small and big factors which defines ultimate fate of it.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: Risotto on October 25, 2017, 02:26:01 PM
Yes there is too much Ico; And we can't decided scam or real.
Definitely needs to investigate well


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: jlp on October 25, 2017, 02:57:22 PM
Read:

3 kinds of ICOs - Protect Yourself
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2243157


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: funchiestz on October 25, 2017, 03:50:22 PM
I think you can find real ico with a little research. it is relevant to the experience in this forum.
Scam projects show poor quality


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: eddyhalim on October 25, 2017, 04:14:12 PM
on our cryptocurrency market, there are many kind of ICO projects and many kind of coins, however, most of them is fraud, people usually dont do research deeply to understand is that a good project is not. so it depends on us to choose whether to invest in ICO project or not and do research about that project before making investment.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: Postpunk on October 25, 2017, 04:23:02 PM
All ICOS is not a scam , most of them as unsuccessful but that dont means that is a scam as well
For every one perspective ICO I can name ten scam ICOs. So it's about 90% scam there


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: Fu.Sin on October 25, 2017, 05:46:45 PM
OK. If many here believe that 90 percent of ICO fraud, then let's create a branch in which we will make a full list of these ICO. Also, in order not to be chatterboxes, we must justify our conclusions.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: PANK21 on October 25, 2017, 05:59:38 PM
Their are so many ongoing ico, am finding it hard to differentiate between scam and good ico, which one do you think is worth investing in?
You can determine a good ico based on the detaild snd information of its thread or its site. If an ico has a detailed information and a very marvelous site then i think it is a good ico. Also if the dev. is easy to communicate with and all the information is valid then it is a good ico. You can also determine a scam ico. If the thread of that ico is not updating in a long time or the detailed information is not that real then trust your sense, its a scam.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: smartJEV on October 25, 2017, 07:35:18 PM
Guys, you talk about different things. He asking what a good ICO from investor prospective. He you need to ask one more question long or short term. Some event not very good projects can give you much in short term, but in long term they just die. Just choose the right ICO analytic services, its kind of complicated to evaluate ICO potential ROI while you not professional.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: Monnt on October 26, 2017, 06:59:01 AM
I don't think you'll really get an 'honest' answer here, too many people trying to "sell" their own product or make gains. I'd say independent research is always the best answer.
Look for something that is new and innovative, that you can see real world use for. Try to avoid the company that's repackaged the same product 50 other companies have created.
This is just a pretty brief and best statement the OP can hear from anyone. Everything balls down to the investor and you just have to make sure you are seeing an innovative product, the availability of the product and the team backing the product before making a move.

Some ICOs will promise you heaven on earth without nothing to show and those are just some ICOs to not bat an eyelid for. Even those with good team knows better than giving investors empty promises.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: smartJEV on October 26, 2017, 07:43:02 PM
on our cryptocurrency market, there are many kind of ICO projects and many kind of coins, however, most of them is fraud, people usually dont do research deeply to understand is that a good project is not. so it depends on us to choose whether to invest in ICO project or not and do research about that project before making investment.

Yes, thats why I think it need to be regulated. One day, people will lose a lot of money on this. Now you still can trade shit coin (which product are "in development"), but most of them worth notging


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: Snaic on October 26, 2017, 09:17:52 PM
I see that a significant part of ICO still try to attract funds to the project's goals. True, they are not entirely successful and not completely thought out and issued coins then just die. Of course, ICO is, of course, a direct fraud. To distinguish them is becoming increasingly difficult, because with the idea, the team of documents they, as a rule, everything is in order. I see an exit only in the state regulation of this process. If before that the team is dentified, this will sharply reduce the likelihood of further fraud.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: smartJEV on October 29, 2017, 06:33:34 PM
More and more ICOs now even dont have smart contract before fundrising, now a lot of ICOs dont have it. Thats a red flag for me.


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: ilya_gr on October 29, 2017, 07:55:49 PM
Just think yourself, how this product of ICO,which you choose, can change the world. It`s the easiest way to decide.Of course this method works, if yu want to invest in real working projects on long-term, not in hypes only to get your x100 and go down:)


Title: Re: Scam or real ico
Post by: smartJEV on October 30, 2017, 06:18:41 PM
Just think yourself, how this product of ICO,which you choose, can change the world. It`s the easiest way to decide.Of course this method works, if yu want to invest in real working projects on long-term, not in hypes only to get your x100 and go down:)

Its kind of hard to decide by your own. Yes you can choose ICOs from category you are a specialist. But still, you need to know about blockchain, about IT in common, about smart contracts, about overall trends. Need to know what are the most important. Actually, for people who invest bigger sums, I suggest to use professional analytic advices. There are some good services online (free), also you can pay for the analysis.