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Title: Dual molex to dual PCIe 8 pins safe?
Post by: flip4flop on October 19, 2017, 02:14:01 AM
After almost completing my install. I ran out of connections. I know you can’t use SATA so I need more molex connectors. Is it ok to run these dual connectors? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XB7PWB6?tag=tablog-20 (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XB7PWB6?tag=tablog-20)


Title: Re: Dual molex to dual PCIe 8 pins safe?
Post by: leonix007 on October 19, 2017, 02:20:42 AM
After almost completing my install. I ran out of connections. I know you can’t use SATA so I need more molex connectors. Is it ok to run these dual connectors? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XB7PWB6?tag=tablog-20 (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XB7PWB6?tag=tablog-20)

I haven't use this type of splitter yet. however I do use SATA for risers without any issues, just ensure it is connected to 1 on 1 setup, 1 riser to 1 sata without splits.


Title: Re: Dual molex to dual PCIe 8 pins safe?
Post by: flip4flop on October 19, 2017, 04:18:30 AM
I’ll have to resort to that if I can’t find enough dual molex connectors. I was hoping someone has used them before just trying to be as safe as possible.


Title: Re: Dual molex to dual PCIe 8 pins safe?
Post by: adaseb on October 19, 2017, 07:16:38 AM
Should be safe if you use like less than 50 Watts.

To power 2 GPUs from 1 molex? Then no.


Title: Re: Dual molex to dual PCIe 8 pins safe?
Post by: deadsix on October 19, 2017, 07:43:52 AM
I’ll have to resort to that if I can’t find enough dual molex connectors. I was hoping someone has used them before just trying to be as safe as possible.

Dual Molex are not safe. Single Molex are DEFINATELY not safe. Do not use ANYTHING other than PCIe to power GPU's if you do not want to risk burning the PSU's, ive burnt two using dual molex conectors.
If you do not have any more PCIe connectors, do not add more cards, this is why people buy 1300w psus even when theyd on tneed the extra power, for the connectors.


Title: Re: Dual molex to dual PCIe 8 pins safe?
Post by: mirny on October 19, 2017, 08:08:12 AM
This is a big no, no, unless you want to burn your rig.
Two molex -> one 8 PCIe is all right, I was using it like this for a long time with old R9 280x cards.


Title: Re: Dual molex to dual PCIe 8 pins safe?
Post by: flip4flop on October 19, 2017, 11:26:20 AM
This would be to power 1070s on risers. It’s a 850w power supply so I thought the power is fine I’m just Short on connectors to get the risers and GPUs together. One dual would power the riser/GPU combo for each card. If I’m good o power is it okay?  What power supply has enough connectors for 4 cards without some sort of mod?


Title: Re: Dual molex to dual PCIe 8 pins safe?
Post by: deadsix on October 19, 2017, 12:40:35 PM
This would be to power 1070s on risers. It’s a 850w power supply so I thought the power is fine I’m just Short on connectors to get the risers and GPUs together. One dual would power the riser/GPU combo for each card. If I’m good o power is it okay?  What power supply has enough connectors for 4 cards without some sort of mod?

Most 850w PSU's have 4 PCIe 6+2 connectors. The GTX 1070s have only one 8 pin power connectors. So what seems to be the problem? Why are you running short of connectors? Are you using PCIe power type risers as well? Just use Molex type risers and youll do fine.


Title: Re: Dual molex to dual PCIe 8 pins safe?
Post by: leowonderful on October 19, 2017, 01:09:49 PM
They work but there’s no guarantee of the quality of these risers, so beware of that. It’s always best to run your cards from straight 8 or six pin power cords, but if you need to monitor the cable to make sure it doesn’t burn or something like that. With server power supplies you can wire the cables yourselves so you can get more six and eight pin connectors and they tend to be more reliable in my experience.


Title: Re: Dual molex to dual PCIe 8 pins safe?
Post by: Yatsida on October 19, 2017, 01:19:29 PM
After almost completing my install. I ran out of connections. I know you can’t use SATA so I need more molex connectors. Is it ok to run these dual connectors? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XB7PWB6?tag=tablog-20 (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XB7PWB6?tag=tablog-20)

Dual molex can support up to 150W. So you cannot support dual PCIE 8pin.


Title: Re: Dual molex to dual PCIe 8 pins safe?
Post by: Bakhtra on October 19, 2017, 01:25:51 PM
After almost completing my install. I ran out of connections. I know you can’t use SATA so I need more molex connectors. Is it ok to run these dual connectors? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XB7PWB6?tag=tablog-20 (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XB7PWB6?tag=tablog-20)

Dual molex can support up to 150W. So you cannot support dual PCIE 8pin.
So we can not use 1 cable pcie 8 pin for 2 rx 480? Why they give splitter at that cable?


Title: Re: Dual molex to dual PCIe 8 pins safe?
Post by: thepanicpoint on October 19, 2017, 01:32:20 PM
After almost completing my install. I ran out of connections. I know you can’t use SATA so I need more molex connectors. Is it ok to run these dual connectors? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XB7PWB6?tag=tablog-20 (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XB7PWB6?tag=tablog-20)


it can be dependent on cable quality, and it can be dependent on copper wire diameter. you can calculate the safety range (diameter - wattage) on internet.

but in 1-2-3 gpu on 1 psu cable is okay (if cable have good quality)


Title: Re: Dual molex to dual PCIe 8 pins safe?
Post by: moonstruck on October 19, 2017, 02:02:06 PM
I would never trust to take any serious power from molex, I've seen plenty of those connectors fail (burn).


Title: Re: Dual molex to dual PCIe 8 pins safe?
Post by: Ventureum on October 19, 2017, 02:23:44 PM
Just buy high quality molex cables to be safe.


Title: Re: Dual molex to dual PCIe 8 pins safe?
Post by: flip4flop on October 19, 2017, 02:55:06 PM
I don’t understand the need for that many cables either but the GTX 1070s have a 8 pin and a 6 pin on the card. Do I only need to plug in the 8 pins?  That would free up a lot of cables for me. I thought I had to have both the 6 and 8 into the cards. Which would be 4x 8 pins and 4x 6 pins for the 4 cards and then would need 3 additional 6 pins for the risers. I feel like I’m doing something wrong here.



Title: Re: Dual molex to dual PCIe 8 pins safe?
Post by: xFGND on October 19, 2017, 03:34:17 PM
You can use SATA. Just use 6-pin to SATA, and not molex to SATA or vice-versa. You'll overdraw power and start a fire.


Title: Re: Dual molex to dual PCIe 8 pins safe?
Post by: stzcze on October 19, 2017, 03:39:22 PM
I don’t understand the need for that many cables either but the GTX 1070s have a 8 pin and a 6 pin on the card. Do I only need to plug in the 8 pins?  That would free up a lot of cables for me. I thought I had to have both the 6 and 8 into the cards. Which would be 4x 8 pins and 4x 6 pins for the 4 cards and then would need 3 additional 6 pins for the risers. I feel like I’m doing something wrong here.



you have to connect both 8 + 6

Dual/single molex not safe for GPU


Title: Re: Dual molex to dual PCIe 8 pins safe?
Post by: Greeny on October 19, 2017, 04:18:30 PM
OK, too much dangerous half knowledge has accumulated here... ::)

It would have been smart to buy 1070s with only one PCIe 6 Pin like ASUS Strix O8G...but its too late for that...maybe if you plan to buy more look out for that. For now you will have to plug in a 6 pin and a 8 pin to your cards if they have both plugs.

The power draw of GPUs works the following way: The GPU takes up all the power it can/needs from the directly connected power connectors and if it still needs more it will draw power from the riser. The 6 (75W) & 8(150W) pin connectors from your PSU provide enough power, i would plug those into your GPUs directly. 4x1070 has a TDP of 600W, check your PSU if it can deliver that much on that cable arm (sticker on the PSU has a chart which cable arm has how much load max).

As you said, now you dont have any powercables left for your 6 pin powered risers. Here you can use those 2 molex -> 1 x 6 pin adapters (1 molex = 55W for 5V and 130W for 12V) as it is unlikely that the card will pull much power from the riser when it already has excess power supply directly.

Hope this helps clear up things :P

(this kind of plugs im talking about; https://www.amazon.com/TechIntheBox-Express-Molex-Power-Adapter/dp/B01M2VTRTM)


Title: Re: Dual molex to dual PCIe 8 pins safe?
Post by: flip4flop on October 19, 2017, 04:20:41 PM
To be safe I think I’ll just upgrade to http://www.microcenter.com/product/458748/GQ_1000_Watt_80_Plus_Gold_ATX_Power_Supply (http://www.microcenter.com/product/458748/GQ_1000_Watt_80_Plus_Gold_ATX_Power_Supply)

1000 watts gold rated and 10 connectors. Won’t have to worry about any molex or SATA to run 4 cards and won’t have to worry about coming close to max power on my 850.  I’ll just sell my 850 to recoup some of the cost and have the piece of mind that I’m safe when I’m not at home.


Title: Re: Dual molex to dual PCIe 8 pins safe?
Post by: Greeny on October 19, 2017, 04:30:38 PM
To be safe I think I’ll just upgrade to http://www.microcenter.com/product/458748/GQ_1000_Watt_80_Plus_Gold_ATX_Power_Supply (http://www.microcenter.com/product/458748/GQ_1000_Watt_80_Plus_Gold_ATX_Power_Supply)

1000 watts gold rated and 10 connectors. Won’t have to worry about any molex or SATA to run 4 cards and won’t have to worry about coming close to max power on my 850.  I’ll just sell my 850 to recoup some of the cost and have the piece of mind that I’m safe when I’m not at home.

Dont you need 4*"6+2"pin + 4*6pin + 3*6pin = 11*"6+2" pin? That PSU has only 10*6+2 pin


Title: Re: Dual molex to dual PCIe 8 pins safe?
Post by: umine on October 19, 2017, 04:33:52 PM
After almost completing my install. I ran out of connections. I know you can’t use SATA so I need more molex connectors. Is it ok to run these dual connectors? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XB7PWB6?tag=tablog-20 (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XB7PWB6?tag=tablog-20)

You can use it as riser power connector (riser with 6pin PCI-e power). But you MUST NOT use it as GPU additional power connector


Title: Re: Dual molex to dual PCIe 8 pins safe?
Post by: flip4flop on October 19, 2017, 04:53:44 PM
Can’t I use the 6+2 pins as both 6 and 6+2 pin connectors?  That would leave me 1 short. I could return one of the recently purchased cards to get one with a single connector for connection and that would then get me under what I needed.  I was under the assumption I could use 6+2 connectors as just 6 pins.


Title: Re: Dual molex to dual PCIe 8 pins safe?
Post by: Greeny on October 19, 2017, 05:38:41 PM
Can’t I use the 6+2 pins as both 6 and 6+2 pin connectors?  That would leave me 1 short. I could return one of the recently purchased cards to get one with a single connector for connection and that would then get me under what I needed.  I was under the assumption I could use 6+2 connectors as just 6 pins.

Yes, you can use a 6+2 connector as 6 or as 8 pin connector. The specs say it has 10 connectors in total but you need 11. I just checked the picture on the evga website, apparently the PSU comes with 4 cables that have 2x6+2 and 2 cables that have 1x6+2...maybe you can just buy an additional 2x6+2 cables from evga...or you have one laying around already....


Title: Re: Dual molex to dual PCIe 8 pins safe?
Post by: flip4flop on October 19, 2017, 05:42:50 PM
Yeah I have a few spares off my old supply that I am replacing that would work. I think this is the best safest long term option. Then swapping out a card for one that takes less connectors.


Title: Re: Dual molex to dual PCIe 8 pins safe?
Post by: BadGuner on October 19, 2017, 05:52:47 PM
All the people that I heard say that using any adapters is undesirable. I also try not to use this.


Title: Re: Dual molex to dual PCIe 8 pins safe?
Post by: FFI2013 on October 19, 2017, 06:25:49 PM
To be safe I think I’ll just upgrade to http://www.microcenter.com/product/458748/GQ_1000_Watt_80_Plus_Gold_ATX_Power_Supply (http://www.microcenter.com/product/458748/GQ_1000_Watt_80_Plus_Gold_ATX_Power_Supply)

1000 watts gold rated and 10 connectors. Won’t have to worry about any molex or SATA to run 4 cards and won’t have to worry about coming close to max power on my 850.  I’ll just sell my 850 to recoup some of the cost and have the piece of mind that I’m safe when I’m not at home.
Or keep your original psu for your motherboard and risers and run your gpus off a good server psu from  parallelminer.com that's what I did just a suggestion


Title: Re: Dual molex to dual PCIe 8 pins safe?
Post by: Set Ready Go on October 19, 2017, 06:48:37 PM
Yeah I have a few spares off my old supply that I am replacing that would work. I think this is the best safest long term option. Then swapping out a card for one that takes less connectors.

just make sure that the (6+2) + 6pin cable from old power supply is compatible with your  new gq unit.