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Title: Liberating Bitcoins held hostage by Satoshi.
Post by: Artofficial on June 09, 2013, 09:08:18 PM
Shouldn't take too long to brute force the keys with several pooled ASICs.




Title: Re: Liberating Bitcoins held hostage by Satoshi.
Post by: BlueHeron on June 09, 2013, 10:29:50 PM
This does not make any sense - care to elaborate?


Title: Re: Liberating Bitcoins held hostage by Satoshi.
Post by: Anon10W1z on June 09, 2013, 10:40:21 PM
There is no bitcoin held in hostage. There is a bitcoin waiting to be mined and solved and given out with its 24 friends. But these bitcoins won't be done in only a few years, they will still keep coming till about 2100-2140, depending on how fast our hardware gets.


Title: Re: Liberating Bitcoins held hostage by Satoshi.
Post by: Mike Christ on June 09, 2013, 10:48:10 PM
http://miguelmoreno.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/fYFBsqp.jpg


Title: Re: Liberating Bitcoins held hostage by Satoshi.
Post by: ranlo on June 09, 2013, 10:53:01 PM

Wow, that's a great image, :). I read through it as well. The problem here is that these laws are still theories and can be broken. Will they? Probably not. But there is still a slight possibility.


Title: Re: Liberating Bitcoins held hostage by Satoshi.
Post by: Mike Christ on June 09, 2013, 10:56:28 PM
Wow, that's a great image, :). I read through it as well. The problem here is that these laws are still theories and can be broken. Will they? Probably not. But there is still a slight possibility.

If we can assume technology is always improving, then eventually, at an indeterminate time in the future, Bitcoin's crypt will be broken (not by brute-forcing, but by a security flaw we've yet to discover.)

However, the great thing about Bitcoin is that it can easily switch to another form of encryption, which I presume will happen before SHA256 is broken.  So even if SHA256 fails, Bitcoin can chug along with the next best encryption.


Title: Re: Liberating Bitcoins held hostage by Satoshi.
Post by: worldinacoin on June 09, 2013, 10:58:41 PM
Satoshi has invented Bitcoin and given it to the community, saying that he is holding it hostage isn't very fair.


Title: Re: Liberating Bitcoins held hostage by Satoshi.
Post by: Explodicle on June 09, 2013, 11:05:29 PM
Shouldn't take too long to brute force the keys with several pooled ASICs.
Here's a rough ballpark example, assuming:
Your several ASICs have a combined 500 GH/s
You'd have to make 2^96 possible guesses (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=24268.0) to get Satoshi's address

(2^96 hashes) / (500,000,000,000 hash/s) = 1.58456325×10^17 seconds
That's about 5 billion years.


Title: Re: Liberating Bitcoins held hostage by Satoshi.
Post by: Mike Christ on June 09, 2013, 11:06:50 PM
That's about 5 billion years.

Or about 500 million years longer than the Earth's been around :P


Title: Re: Liberating Bitcoins held hostage by Satoshi.
Post by: Artofficial on June 09, 2013, 11:32:03 PM
Why hack a block for a mere 25btc every ten minutes.

This is not about a weakness in SHA256, but human error. Satoshi is, after all only a H4cker.




Title: Re: Liberating Bitcoins held hostage by Satoshi.
Post by: mprep on June 09, 2013, 11:35:51 PM
I dont believe satoshi has any bit coins
Maybe he does. You never know.


Title: Re: Liberating Bitcoins held hostage by Satoshi.
Post by: Mike Christ on June 09, 2013, 11:39:02 PM
Why hack a block for a mere 25btc every ten minutes.

This is not about a weakness in SHA256, but human error. Satoshi is, after all only a H4cker.




I have no idea what you're saying ;D  I recommend reading up more on Bitcoin and how it works.


Title: Re: Liberating Bitcoins held hostage by Satoshi.
Post by: Artofficial on June 10, 2013, 12:02:28 AM

This is not about a weakness in SHA256,......


or Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Liberating Bitcoins held hostage by Satoshi.
Post by: JSMill on June 10, 2013, 12:38:16 AM

I love this image.  Great tool when explaining bitcoins.  Thanks for posting.