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Where Edward Snowden is going, there are no Bitcoin wallets.

Great question, I was looking to make his pic my avatar image but then gave up after lack of images to choose from at the time.

lol, going to jail for protecting Americans. I doubt that is going to pan out well. You know all the people with guns (I am not one of them) are looking for an excuse to use them.

America.... isn't that what they call "land of the free"?  :D

The U.S. is more censored, monitored and controlled by secret agencies than countries like Iran, China or North-Korea. Except the puppeteers in the U.S. do a better job, because the majority isn't even aware of it and call themselves "proud to be American". It's a frigging joke ;D

Anyway, kudos for mister Edward Snowden for standing up for his moral beliefs, even if it may cost him his life. You're a hero, Edward.

i think you're being too negative.

he'll probably end up like Bill Binney.  nothing basically:

http://www.whistleblower.org/program-areas/homeland-security-a-human-rights/surveillance/nsa-whistleblowers-bill-binney-a-j-kirk-wiebe

FTFY

Besides that, +1

He will probably end up in US concentration camp.

Kazimir,

Obviously, you are either not well traveled, or ignore certain on the ground realities.
In the USA, you can stand on any street corner and insult the president, the ruling party, the whole system.

Try insulting Castro publicly in Havana, or saying anything against the ruling religious elite in Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, or anything against the government in a variety of Gulf State countries.

The thing is, in the USA, if you protest against the government, some church or religion or corporations, people just mostly really don't care.

You are confusing freedom of speech with the secrecy of government agencies and the actions of individuals to reveal secrets of secret agencies.

The US may have all sorts of monitoring, but it is nothing like the police states of the world. You can still say what you want in the US, screw your neighbor's wife, read whatever you want, and no one cares.

The proof of this is the incredible high rate of illegal drug use, the freedoms of live theater and artists, and the fact that whether or not you think what Snowden did ws right, there is public discourse here on the issue.

 

???
Joking?

Serious.

I live in the USA. I have posted all sorts of things on here, on Craigslist, said things to the person sitting on the barstool next to me about politics and never was I afraid that I would be arrested.

If you were to do the same thing in several other countries, you would be arrested quickly.

If you have money, in the US, you could pay for a billboard saying anything you want.
The issue with Snowden is not whether the US has free speech, which it does, but whether he was justified in revealing secret information about the government spying on its own citizens, even if that spying was not the content of phone calls but merely the data of who one calls.

Aaron Swartz was more of a hero than is Snowden.
http://about.jstor.org/statement-swartz

Not sure if you are trolling with this question.

On the off chance you are not familiar with the US, I am providing a link to a particular protest group that has pushed the limits of protesting and definitely IMHO stepped well past any sense of human decency.  Still, I defend their right to be complete and total idiots.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church

You is a silly. I'd like you to look up the Occupy Wall Street eviction videos and tell me about how free speech is. You'll see me with a nonviolent communication poster in my mouth getting the living shitstomped outta me.
I'm on the same page as Snowden as far as putting myself out there.
I hope his wallet address goes public and he escapes death.

Gotta play by the rules of protest.

I have not seen the Westborough idiots getting the shitstomped outta them.

R-rules? Confused. A thousand or so riot cops showed up to my 'villiage' at 2am and raided like frickin' vikings. Killed puppies, destroyed books, tents, everything I owned and threw lots of folks in jail. Have y'all not seen these videos? Just google ows eviction.
By the way, did the Slayer guitarist funeral feat. Teh WBC thing already happen?

Obama pressured over NSA snooping as US senator denounces 'act of treason' (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/10/obama-pressured-explain-nsa-surveillance)

Information chiefs worldwide sound alarm while US senator Dianne Feinstein orders NSA to review monitoring program.

World leaders seek answers on US collection of communication data (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/10/european-reaction-us-surveillance-revelations)

Data protection chiefs and analysts in EU, Pakistan, South Africa and Canada express concerns at revelations in leaks.

US lawmakers call for review of Patriot Act after NSA surveillance revelations (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/10/patriot-act-nsa-surveillance-review)

White House insists it welcomes 'appropriate debate' after Republican leadership questions implementation of security act.

#Bitcoins4Snowden

The hash hasnt gone anywhere yet.

https://twitter.com/search/realtime?q=%23Bitcoins4Snowden&src=hash

Occupy Wall Street was able to protest.
Mainstream media mostly ignored them.
Occupy Wall Street spent MANY months protesting, not on public land, but in a privately owned park.

Yes, eventually, the local city government and owner of the land on which they were camped, got them to move but it took months.

The Occupy Wall Street movement fell apart as much due to their own disorganized, needing consensus oragnizatiol structure as due to the City of New York and the owner of that park wanting them to go.

But, Occupy Wall Street can still print a newspaper, post on websites, and get interviewed on US TV shows. That proves that they have freedom to publicly share their political opinions. They just cannot continue to camp out on private property.

In which other country could a group like Occupy Wall Street continue to camp out for that long and protest? In Cuba? North Korea? France? UK?

The fact of the matter is, Occupy Wall Street is a terrible example, but even they were not sure what they were protesting about. Like I said, Occupy Wall Street imploded as much due to their own lack of specific message and lack of organization as due to a local government and a property owner wanting them to go away.

In any case, the occupy wallstreet movement is an extension of the Rainbow Gathering, and the Rainbow gathering still has a yearly event where over 20,000 people meet in a National Forrest, smoke cannabis and do whatever they do, and it is permitted.

Sorry, but in the USA, you can say whatever you want, but often no one cares and no one will listen.

The USA has many problems, but not as many as most other places in the world.

Snowden is today's hero!

He could have 100,000 bitcoins in his wallet and he will have trouble converting them to anything other than bitcoin because the NSA and every other intelligence agency is on him like fly on shit.

The second he tries to cash out an account at Mt.Gox , CampBX or any exchange for that matter  it'll get seized.  They would most likely let him sell his bitcoins but not withdraw,  so at the end of the day he'll have neither bitcoins or dollars (or Euros, Yen, whatever).

He's going to have to find lawyers that accept bitcoin,  food stores that accept bitcoin,  etc... because he most likely won't be able to convert it to anything else.   Technically doable... but boy he has his work cut out for him.

he should take up the challenge.

A fair question.
Was it about 2 months before Mayor Bloomberg and the folks that owned the land where the OWS campground was built decided that it was becoming unsanitary?
The current Istanbul Turkey protest started May 28, Teargas and water cannons used May 31.  So 3 days?
Certainly there have been longer "occupy" type protests than 2 months, but none come to mind immediately.

I do not understand why are we obligated to trade on online exchanges. For example if anyone come in my country to visit and wants to exchange bitcoins for cash he does not need to do that on online exchange, there are people that are willing to change crypto currency in fiat with reasonable fee and that is even faster than banks. My friend waited 2 weeks to get his money from mtgox. I am not saying that online exchanges are bad but they are slowed down or even restricted by banks. Whole point of crypto currency is to avoid banks and governments because I want control over my assets and I will not pay taxes 3 times for one thing.

Until the NYPD and private police beat us and stole our stuff.
Did you check out those videos? It was a war zone.
The eviction was illegaly carried out. There was an injuntcion in effect at the time. Also, Zucotti Park is a privately owned public park.


What you're saying is true, but a willingness to accept toned-down war crimes shouldn't be a point of pride, don't you think? The rejection of private property is a valid stance.

I totally agree, my privelige of being in the USA is materially enormous.
Being less oppressive than horiffically oppressive places is neat, but still wholly unacceptable.
Each person knew why they were at OWS.
When I was at last year's rainbow gathering I saw several people were arrested for smoking weed.

@puffpuffpass- Is the blatant off topic-ness in this post cool with you?

Pretty sure he'll get by just fine on his Chinese government salary. :)

exactly, I would just post up ads on HK's Craigslist and any other popular classified ads site looking to sell bitcoins for HKD, it should work out fine

https://secure.avaaz.org/en/stop_prism_global/?copy
FOR THE RECORD!

pretty sure if us govt can spy on you as you type each word.
if snowden considered as a traitor or criminal of whatever us govt can throws at him
then whoever donate BTC and drag about it on here will be 'aid' of snowden
Jail?

of crouse
you have to be a us citizen

Lock me up, LOCK ME UP!

Who is Eric Snowden?

And how is that pertinent to Edward Snowden, like in the title of the thread?

Come at me I'm behind 7 onions

Those Teflon onions ...

Imagine a script where Snowden's Catch 22 of being unwilling to keep both his sense of duty and the uniform, and so flees the cyberwar.  Sounds more like Orr than Yossarian though.  Unless there was some deal not yet in evidence, then Yossarian might be a fit.
Truth is stranger than fiction.