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Title: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: Yhan on October 26, 2017, 02:44:55 PM
So many hyip were found in any Facebook groups. Last October 20 2017 someone refer me to join in hyip were she joined me also. From the very first day I deposit my investmetr to that hyip I suspected already that maybe it was scam because my deposit took so long before I received in my account and that's what I did was I sent message to their support. After 5 days of investing I failed to open their site and they took my investment.


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: thesmallgod on October 26, 2017, 03:05:05 PM
I dont think you understand what is hyip. it means High Yield Investment Programme. it is a form of Scam where by a group of criminal setup a flashy website primarily to dupe people by telling them to invest there money overall a multi scale level investment cut with different percentage return on Investment. there is no way you can avoid to be scam Hyip because you are not the one running the site. when the Admin have recieve more money he can decide to shutdown the site and run away with your money. you can minimize your lost if you join early ( that if you know when the site will be launch).


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: piloder on October 26, 2017, 03:34:22 PM
Never join or invest in any HYIP specially those that promises very high daily return or return for lifetime. You should learn about altcoin trading so that you can grow your bitcoin in legit way.

Investing in HYIP/Ponzi/Cloud mining/MLM network is not the best way to earn bitcoin or grow your bitcoin. Avoid them, all of them will scam you at some point.


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: michkima on October 27, 2017, 06:52:57 AM
So many hyip were found in any Facebook groups. Last October 20 2017 someone refer me to join in hyip were she joined me also. From the very first day I deposit my investmetr to that hyip I suspected already that maybe it was scam because my deposit took so long before I received in my account and that's what I did was I sent message to their support. After 5 days of investing I failed to open their site and they took my investment.

That's easy! To avoid getting scammed by these hyip investments and them running away with your bitcoins the answer is, DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT JOINING HYIP INVESTMENTS! They will just run away with your money without a second thought. Anyway, how gullible are you to believe that they are legit. Double your money in one day, one week, one month? Seriously, there is no such thing.


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: digitx on October 27, 2017, 07:15:51 AM
The best way is to just not join them in the first place. Bitcoin's design means that you have the ability to control your own account and manage your own returns. So get your own Bitcoin address, learn how it works - and build value in the crypto market by trading in crypto. Buy your everyday goods where you can in crypto and teach your friends how to do the same. That way the value of your crypto will appreciate as more people start to use it.


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: Carmen01 on October 27, 2017, 07:16:59 AM
So many hyip were found in any Facebook groups. Last October 20 2017 someone refer me to join in hyip were she joined me also. From the very first day I deposit my investmetr to that hyip I suspected already that maybe it was scam because my deposit took so long before I received in my account and that's what I did was I sent message to their support. After 5 days of investing I failed to open their site and they took my investment.
your question is very simple just create different email then sign up in their site then if they scam you its ok because thats is new account me i always try a site here in bitcoin but i dont take my account to risk i only sign up when someone post that is legit site if they have negative feedback then i think before i do sign up even its say scam site i wont believe unless i try,i always try everything in life even here in bitcoin to experience a lot in life


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: DaddyMonsi on October 27, 2017, 07:29:15 AM
So many hyip were found in any Facebook groups. Last October 20 2017 someone refer me to join in hyip were she joined me also. From the very first day I deposit my investmetr to that hyip I suspected already that maybe it was scam because my deposit took so long before I received in my account and that's what I did was I sent message to their support. After 5 days of investing I failed to open their site and they took my investment.
The answer to your question is very simple, stay away from HYIP period. The problem why theres a lot of HYIPs sprouting like mushroom is because there are people who participates on HYIPs and patronizes this kind of scheme. If there is no demand for HYIP, no one will bother to create them anymore. But as long as there are people joining and referring HYIPs this will not stop.


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: mk4 on October 27, 2017, 08:04:52 AM
How to avout being scammed by investment sites? Easy. Never join one in the first place. Simple as that. You want to invest? Buy certain cryptocurrencies and just hold on to them while they hopefully rise in price. Or maybe join and invest in promising ICOs(not recommended).


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: DaMut on October 27, 2017, 08:14:04 AM
how to avoid to be scammed by hyip bitcoin investment ?
there're no way you can avoid it as long as you join their system,to be honest based on my own experience all of them were scammer.
indeed for now they're paying you an 'earning' that they promised to you a while ago,
but what happen with your investment in next months or years ?
so far i never heard a legit hyip project and i believe it will never be a legit one because they're only want to collect people money without work.
just do not touch that thing,i believe you will no get scammed by hyip bitcoin investment in the future.


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: peter0425 on October 27, 2017, 08:23:10 AM
So many hyip were found in any Facebook groups. Last October 20 2017 someone refer me to join in hyip were she joined me also. From the very first day I deposit my investmetr to that hyip I suspected already that maybe it was scam because my deposit took so long before I received in my account and that's what I did was I sent message to their support. After 5 days of investing I failed to open their site and they took my investment.

I was attracted to HYIP before because I friend show me how to join and put up my bitcoins. Initially it was really giving back so I said that it is not a scam. However, its too late for all of us when suddenly the site went offline and I see that there's a lot of facebook users's complaining that they have lost their investment as well. Really hard lessons to learn specially in the beginning of your bitcoin journey. So I advise everyone to matter how good the returns is, how good the website design, they are all the same and going to scam you so better stay away from them. For sure, you also learn you lessons today, not to believed in such HYIP and Ponzi because they will just take your money and ran off.


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: BabyBoss on October 27, 2017, 08:23:53 AM
Don't try put your Private key in the filling form or try to post it publicly. Don't be greedy because of the small pieces of satoshi. Be wise enough and be careful for you to not scam.


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: TravelMug on October 27, 2017, 08:28:37 AM
So many hyip were found in any Facebook groups. Last October 20 2017 someone refer me to join in hyip were she joined me also. From the very first day I deposit my investmetr to that hyip I suspected already that maybe it was scam because my deposit took so long before I received in my account and that's what I did was I sent message to their support. After 5 days of investing I failed to open their site and they took my investment.

If you think that's there easy way to make a profit from bitcoin without doing anything then you are wrong. And the promises of a good return is very suspicious because you have to used your common sense, how do this people can give you the returns in short amount of time? If you answer that there's no way they can give you back money, then don't joined. They are designed to suck you up because your greed sets in. Don't be greedy and just work hard in order to earn bitcoin. You don't need such hyip because all of them don't give nothing back but scam the hell out of everyone, so better stay away from them.


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: olushakes on October 27, 2017, 09:00:27 AM
So many hyip were found in any Facebook groups. Last October 20 2017 someone refer me to join in hyip were she joined me also. From the very first day I deposit my investmetr to that hyip I suspected already that maybe it was scam because my deposit took so long before I received in my account and that's what I did was I sent message to their support. After 5 days of investing I failed to open their site and they took my investment.

The only way to stay away from such investment is to not get greedy. Hardly will you see anyone who have not had one experience or the other with HYIP while some people experience have been minimal, others have been massive and its just based on the level of greed we all have. The moment a site is offering you some amount of returns with a short period of time, no matter who is referring you there, you just know its scam. There are no two ways about it.


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: CryptoTamer on October 27, 2017, 09:56:16 AM
It's hard to avoid that, basically HYIP was created to commit fraud to their members. The purpose of the HYIP site is to lure people make an investment then take money from members, you will never know when the HYIP owner will take your money
Investing in HYIPs is very risky and the best way to avoid being scammed by HYIP is stop investing in HYIP


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: Beejae on October 27, 2017, 11:05:01 AM
I just read about how someone was scammed of over $6,000 after investing in Auroramine. It's such a pity how people still fall for these scams. They just go for the bait so easily. Lord have mercy!


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: mobnepal on October 27, 2017, 11:12:31 AM
So many hyip were found in any Facebook groups. Last October 20 2017 someone refer me to join in hyip were she joined me also. From the very first day I deposit my investmetr to that hyip I suspected already that maybe it was scam because my deposit took so long before I received in my account and that's what I did was I sent message to their support. After 5 days of investing I failed to open their site and they took my investment.
- Facebook and all social media is full of scammers.
- Most of the ponzi program/group have one lady representative to lure hungry guys  ;D
- Just show me one HYIP that is paying for decades? Most of the hyip die too early even within few days like in your case.
- Don't invest in any HYIP is the best way to avoid being scammed by them.  ;)


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: monkeydominicorobin on October 27, 2017, 02:55:14 PM
So many hyip were found in any Facebook groups. Last October 20 2017 someone refer me to join in hyip were she joined me also. From the very first day I deposit my investmetr to that hyip I suspected already that maybe it was scam because my deposit took so long before I received in my account and that's what I did was I sent message to their support. After 5 days of investing I failed to open their site and they took my investment.

You cannot avoid being scammed but there are websites that monitors profitable hyip. Some may even last for years in terms of integrity and profitability. Not all HYIP are scams. But never join facebook groups that begs for your Bitcoin. They are beggars.


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: spngebob on October 27, 2017, 03:05:19 PM
First step to avoid scams is - don't invest in anything that looks suspicious and don't invest if something looks too good to be true. Also go to "investor based games" board and look at all examples of how scam looks like.

Second step to avoid of being scammed by someone is: don't listen to people who are saying this:
You cannot avoid being scammed but there are websites that monitors profitable hyip. Some may even last for years in terms of integrity and profitability. Not all HYIP are scams. But never join facebook groups that begs for your Bitcoin. They are beggars.
Sure they are. Research HYIP. It is ponzi which means it is scam.


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: monkeydominicorobin on October 27, 2017, 03:11:26 PM
First step to avoid scams is - don't invest in anything that looks suspicious and don't invest if something looks too good to be true. Also go to "investor based games" board and look at all examples of how scam looks like.

Second step to avoid of being scammed by someone is: don't listen to people who are saying this:
You cannot avoid being scammed but there are websites that monitors profitable hyip. Some may even last for years in terms of integrity and profitability. Not all HYIP are scams. But never join facebook groups that begs for your Bitcoin. They are beggars.
Sure they are. Research HYIP. It is ponzi which means it is scam.

Research Bitcoins. They all say it is a scam. It is a ponzi scheme. But is it????


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: MarkJubleg on October 27, 2017, 03:15:36 PM
they persuade u with the lure of a very high income,  with roi 110% or higher that takes only a very short time, dont join with this person,
if you want to join cloud mining then look for the truth of company,


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: yugyug on October 27, 2017, 03:17:40 PM
there are two ways to avoid scam by the hyip program. first - is you avoid to join and that's it a 10000% sure you will not scam and avoid entertaining or accommodating any offer from mail solicitation or from social media invitation, the more you entertain the more it likely you will be convince afterwards and that is the thing you need to remember. 2nd is you must be on top of the team like the pioneering member and exit after you made and ROI and a profit of at least 100%, but this is not one hundred percent sure of winning because it depends on the admins own scheme so the best way is to ignore and avoid joining and that's the 100 percent sure and safe.


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: gabmen on October 27, 2017, 03:36:51 PM
Well you prettymuch will have an idea already if its a scam or not. Anything that seems to good to be true or too easy probably ian't legitimate. Stop trying to find shortcuts. Earning btc should be easy enough just by research and study


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: spngebob on October 27, 2017, 03:41:55 PM
First step to avoid scams is - don't invest in anything that looks suspicious and don't invest if something looks too good to be true. Also go to "investor based games" board and look at all examples of how scam looks like.

Second step to avoid of being scammed by someone is: don't listen to people who are saying this:
You cannot avoid being scammed but there are websites that monitors profitable hyip. Some may even last for years in terms of integrity and profitability. Not all HYIP are scams. But never join facebook groups that begs for your Bitcoin. They are beggars.
Sure they are. Research HYIP. It is ponzi which means it is scam.

Research Bitcoins. They all say it is a scam. It is a ponzi scheme. But is it????
Excuse me, but how is bitcoin ponzi?
Who gave you that silly idea?
I did my research about bitcoins, i am not sure to who you are referring when you say "they all say it is a scam". Who are they?


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: JMAHH on October 27, 2017, 08:54:15 PM
The only people who fall on those kind of programs are the dumb people who are in a dissesperate need of money, i know a guy who wanted to earn $300 fastly so he could buy the new ps4 (two years ago) and he had about $100 in bitcoins. He joined one of those bitcoin doublers, he doubled that money because of a miracle, and he wanted to double those $200, it was a wrong desicion.. He lost everything because that website turned scam after he invested in the second round.
never invest in those kind of sites, you are always going to get scammed.


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: Pearls Before Swine on October 27, 2017, 08:58:07 PM
I dont think you understand what is hyip. it means High Yield Investment Programme. it is a form of Scam where by a group of criminal setup a flashy website primarily to dupe people by telling them to invest there money overall a multi scale level investment cut with different percentage return on Investment. there is no way you can avoid to be scam Hyip because you are not the one running the site. when the Admin have recieve more money he can decide to shutdown the site and run away with your money. you can minimize your lost if you join early ( that if you know when the site will be launch).
'HYIP' is a term only used on bitcointalk.  You won't see it anywhere, at least not outside
of the crypto world.  And yeah, they're all ponzi scams, by definition.  There are 'high-yield'
investments in bonds, but that refers to high risk, high interest ones.  HYIPs are all scams in crypto.
Stay away from them at all costs.  Some people make money, but it's a gamble you don't want
to take if you're a rational investor.


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: muncuss on October 27, 2017, 09:58:02 PM
'HYIP' is a term only used on bitcointalk.  You won't see it anywhere, at least not outside
of the crypto world.  And yeah, they're all ponzi scams, by definition.  

well, i know HYIP before i know this forum. That term is widely know in "making money online" world. All know it's born to be scam


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: rizkyhiw on October 27, 2017, 10:03:59 PM
First step to avoid scams is - don't invest in anything that looks suspicious and don't invest if something looks too good to be true. Also go to "investor based games" board and look at all examples of how scam looks like.

Second step to avoid of being scammed by someone is: don't listen to people who are saying this:
You cannot avoid being scammed but there are websites that monitors profitable hyip. Some may even last for years in terms of integrity and profitability. Not all HYIP are scams. But never join facebook groups that begs for your Bitcoin. They are beggars.
Sure they are. Research HYIP. It is ponzi which means it is scam.

Research Bitcoins. They all say it is a scam. It is a ponzi scheme. But is it????
Excuse me, but how is bitcoin ponzi?
Who gave you that silly idea?
I did my research about bitcoins, i am not sure to who you are referring when you say "they all say it is a scam". Who are they?
If you at a forum like ebay or something like that , they are keep saying bitcoin as a scam ,
Yeah they are making statement baseless , just throw a random opinion so just ignore them ,
I just thought hyip days has gone lol ,
People have been too smart to make a stupid investment like that nowadays.


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: iamaruf on October 27, 2017, 11:05:33 PM
So many hyip were found in any Facebook groups. Last October 20 2017 someone refer me to join in hyip were she joined me also. From the very first day I deposit my investmetr to that hyip I suspected already that maybe it was scam because my deposit took so long before I received in my account and that's what I did was I sent message to their support. After 5 days of investing I failed to open their site and they took my investment.
Maybe you are new in this world. hyip mean also a high risk. you will be gainer or you will be a looser from this hyip.but there is no history who is the gainer.All people scammed from hyip program.That's why I have no interest in hyip :)


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: Indrawan77 on October 27, 2017, 11:15:31 PM
To avoid hyip is very easy, just dont join something that doesn't make sense like profit 10% a day, or profit 2% a day for forever, if we think clearly there is no way a company able to give so big profit in a short time, most of the people just follow the greed and invest in hyip although they know it is a trap and all hyip is a scammed


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: jayco25 on October 27, 2017, 11:19:56 PM
Simple question, Simple answer. do not invest anymore in all HYIP website. like they giving 10percent daily.


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: dothebeats on October 28, 2017, 12:10:27 AM
Who uses facebook nowadays?

Honestly, any investment that claims they can give you over 5% of your deposit in a day is more likely a scam that needs to be avoided. Astronomical gains in an investment, especially if it requires referring and whatnot, often points to HYIPs/Ponzi Schemes. Personally I just ignore these type of ads since I know it's too good to be true. I'd rather stick to trading and lose it there rather than give some lazy ass people my hard-earned money.


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: monkeydominicorobin on October 28, 2017, 12:29:24 AM
First step to avoid scams is - don't invest in anything that looks suspicious and don't invest if something looks too good to be true. Also go to "investor based games" board and look at all examples of how scam looks like.

Second step to avoid of being scammed by someone is: don't listen to people who are saying this:
You cannot avoid being scammed but there are websites that monitors profitable hyip. Some may even last for years in terms of integrity and profitability. Not all HYIP are scams. But never join facebook groups that begs for your Bitcoin. They are beggars.
Sure they are. Research HYIP. It is ponzi which means it is scam.

Research Bitcoins. They all say it is a scam. It is a ponzi scheme. But is it????
Excuse me, but how is bitcoin ponzi?
Who gave you that silly idea?
I did my research about bitcoins, i am not sure to who you are referring when you say "they all say it is a scam". Who are they?

Don't try to sweep it under the rug. Your argument failed. People have been saying that Bitcoin is a Ponzi scheme for eight years now. But is it really a ponzi scheme? Ergo are all HYIP a ponzi scheme?


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: frowsiter on October 28, 2017, 01:05:28 AM


So many hyip were found in any Facebook groups. Last October 20 2017 someone refer me to join in hyip were she joined me also. From the very first day I deposit my investmetr to that hyip I suspected already that maybe it was scam because my deposit took so long before I received in my account and that's what I did was I sent message to their support. After 5 days of investing I failed to open their site and they took my investment.



If you ask me then these so called high yield investment plans are just scam and nothing much.


Best way to avoid scam is to avoid investing into them. Because there is no such thing or plan which can get you big money in short time. Just look at the crypto currencies and try to trade and invest into them for more secure investment. You can earn high profits there also without loosing a dime if you make your trades safely. HYIP sucks really.


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: mrcash02 on October 28, 2017, 02:07:54 AM
First step to avoid scams is - don't invest in anything that looks suspicious and don't invest if something looks too good to be true. Also go to "investor based games" board and look at all examples of how scam looks like.

Second step to avoid of being scammed by someone is: don't listen to people who are saying this:
You cannot avoid being scammed but there are websites that monitors profitable hyip. Some may even last for years in terms of integrity and profitability. Not all HYIP are scams. But never join facebook groups that begs for your Bitcoin. They are beggars.
Sure they are. Research HYIP. It is ponzi which means it is scam.

Research Bitcoins. They all say it is a scam. It is a ponzi scheme. But is it????
Excuse me, but how is bitcoin ponzi?
Who gave you that silly idea?
I did my research about bitcoins, i am not sure to who you are referring when you say "they all say it is a scam". Who are they?

Don't try to sweep it under the rug. Your argument failed. People have been saying that Bitcoin is a Ponzi scheme for eight years now. But is it really a ponzi scheme? Ergo are all HYIP a ponzi scheme?

I think they are the same, Ponzies and HYIPs.

But some people say HYIPs could be "legit" because scheme's owners are doing real business while the Ponzi scheme just shares the investment among other investors, there isn't business, only a share from newer to older members until the pyramid crashes. HYIP would be a very profitable legit business, but that isn't the reality... As everyone said, better to stay away.


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: adiksau0414 on October 28, 2017, 02:44:18 AM
The problem with todays scammers is that they are using some social media to attract patrons. They show some screenshot of their earnings ( dont know if it is real or photoshop to make it real) to make us believe that it legit. The best thing to do to avoid it is to search for it, there are sites where you can read testimonies of other who are being scammed. Sometimes there are some local news who publicize those scammer with help of the victims. And one thing, dont bite to their bait that promises big earnings in a fraction of time.


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: cpfreeplz on October 28, 2017, 02:45:59 AM
Um, they're all a scam? I thought that was pretty obvious. Also ponzis are a scam. Do we really need to spell these things out this day and age? Don't hand over your money to other people. You don't need to.


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: Donewing on October 28, 2017, 04:54:32 AM
I think its easy to avoid scam at crypto investment site, just ignore it and focus at trading or REAL mining..


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: miyaka26 on October 28, 2017, 05:10:06 AM
Careful and Extensive research must done to find a legit investment sites as most of the will condition first their victims by paying for the first 2 weeks and then if you invest more because you see it as legit because it is paying, they will run with your money you will see that the website or the person can't reach or contact, a lot of them are scammers so be careful of what are you getting into. go for signature campaigns or trading because it surely give you good results and a good return of investments.


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: gabbie2010 on October 28, 2017, 05:19:37 AM
To avoid being scammed by hyip is to completely ignored them, of course they have juicy returns to attract a potential investors, they will offer 50% daily profit,  the gullible ones will fall victims, they pays their investors initially thereafter vanished into air.
Please never invest your hard earned money into any ponzi system.


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: Maddinson100 on October 28, 2017, 04:09:50 PM
I just read about how someone was scammed of over $6,000 after investing in Auroramine. It's such a pity how people still fall for these scams. They just go for the bait so easily. Lord have mercy!
This is really a very serious issue and it needs lot of attention. There are so many scammers sitting in the market who are constantly keeping an eye on the money of others. They keep on trying different kind of schemes with which they can actually grab the money of others. We need to be very much careful while making any kind of deal. Moreover, be well aware of the people around you.


Title: Re: How can you avoid to be scammed by hyip investment of bitcoins?
Post by: bitdevildog on November 18, 2017, 02:31:51 PM
I actually just tried https://bitcy.biz/ by not researching, and not knowing about hyip sites.  I started doing research after I deposit and it started to feel scamming. I deposited .025btc, and after 15 days did get .038 back. I withdrawal asap after the 15 days, and I was able to get it all back. I might consider depositing .013 as that's their money to see what happens. If I lose it then no real loss for me since I have taken my initial deposit out. It is still a high risk but high gain. You are technically gambling, but if they are paying, why not?  

After I got worried, I started researching hardcore, and I can't verify the people in that site, their location is a clothing store, they actually put their logo on the window in the site, but if you google map it, there is no logo. To me, they are definitely a scam that is paying at least at lower levels. 

In this case study, I did profit and got my money back, but I would never put a large amount of money in them.
 
I came across this sites:
https://hyip-zanoza.me/en/
http://invest-tracing.com/

There seem to be several similar sites that list paying and non paying hyip sites. If you are going to "try it out," definitely only invest what you are willing to lose. Be cautious and do some research. There seems to be an increase this year in hyip sites popping up, it seems unregulated right now, so they are getting away with it.
Do the research, deposit what you are ok with losing, don’t deposit high amount.