Title: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: brishtiteveja on June 12, 2013, 02:12:49 PM So, I have made a huge spread sheet with data of predicted difficulty, network hash rate and what your miner such as kncminer saturn or jupiter gonna give you....
Before you buy any asic miner check this out... The data below can be troublesome to read.. So I am also sharing this google spreadsheet. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjEbQ5LBKsAEdDYtajZTMi1Ua0ZkUXR0X0NKSnVaSXc&usp=sharing (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjEbQ5LBKsAEdDYtajZTMi1Ua0ZkUXR0X0NKSnVaSXc&usp=sharing) Hope it will be helpful for you who doesn't know lots of details, specially the calculations.. If this helps you and you want to donate plz: 1DduVXm1C77X38FhfQ9WfU3gdqpgqmzPp8 Bitcoin Time vs. Difficulty N = (h * t)/(2^32 * D) 1 Tera Hash/sec = 10^12 Hash/sec Number of Blocks per day Number of Blocks per day Date Increase(%) Difficulty Level(D) Network Hash Rate= D * 2^32/600 KNCMiner Jupiter(350GH/s) KNCMiner Saturn(175GH/s) 5-Feb 10.33 3,651,012 26,134,961,895,506 1.928451252 0.964225626 18-Feb 11.47 4,367,876 31,266,474,288,306 1.611950217 0.805975108 1-Mar 19.63 4,847,647 34,700,808,879,254 1.452415711 0.726207855 14-Mar 10.98 6,695,826 47,930,589,482,844 1.051520554 0.525760277 24-Mar 38.13 7,673,000 54,925,473,437,013 0.91760702 0.45880351 5-Apr 14.59 8,974,296 64,240,513,041,039 0.784551642 0.392275821 17-Apr 12.28 10,076,293 72,128,914,833,190 0.698748901 0.349374451 30-Apr 12.28 11,187,257 80,081,504,911,579 0.629358802 0.314679401 12-May 11.03 11,187,257 80,081,504,911,579 0.629358802 0.314679401 25-May 8.64 12,153,412 86,997,511,791,357 0.579326914 0.289663457 5-Jun 28.41 15,605,633 111,709,472,280,631 0.451170335 0.225585167 16.16090909 Payout=(Sum of Bitcoins per day in a range)*11day*25BTC* 120USD 354237.1849 177118.5925 USD USD Future Prediction with average 15% difficulty increase per 11 day Number of Blocks per day Number of Blocks per day Date Change Difficulty(D) Network Hash Rate= D * 2^32/600 KNCMiner Jupiter(350GH/s) KNCMiner Saturn(175GH/s) 5-Jun 28.41% 15,605,633 111,709,472,280,631 0.451170335 0.225585167 Year 2013 16-Jun 15.00% 17,946,478 128,465,893,480,639 0.392322029 0.196161015 27-Jun 15.00% 20,638,450 147,735,777,502,735 0.341149591 0.170574795 8-Jul 15.00% 23,734,217 169,896,144,128,145 0.296651818 0.148325909 19-Jul 15.00% 27,294,350 195,380,565,747,367 0.257958102 0.128979051 30-Jul 15.00% 31,388,502 224,687,650,609,472 0.224311393 0.112155697 10-Aug 15.00% 36,096,778 258,390,798,200,893 0.195053386 0.097526693 21-Aug 15.00% 41,511,294 297,149,417,931,027 0.16961164 0.08480582 1-Sep 15.00% 47,737,988 341,721,830,620,681 0.147488382 0.073744191 12-Sep 15.00% 54,898,687 392,980,105,213,783 0.128250767 0.064125384 23-Sep 15.00% 63,133,489 451,927,120,995,850 0.111522406 0.055761203 4-Oct 15.00% 72,603,513 519,716,189,145,228 0.096976005 0.048488003 15-Oct 15.00% 83,494,040 597,673,617,517,012 0.084326961 0.042163481 26-Oct 15.00% 96,018,146 687,324,660,144,564 0.073327792 0.036663896 6-Nov 15.00% 110,420,868 790,423,359,166,249 0.063763298 0.031881649 17-Nov 15.00% 126,983,998 908,986,863,041,186 0.055446346 0.027723173 28-Nov 15.00% 146,031,598 1,045,334,892,497,360 0.048214214 0.024107107 9-Dec 15.00% 167,936,337 1,202,135,126,371,970 0.041925403 0.020962702 20-Dec 15.00% 193,126,788 1,382,455,395,327,760 0.036456872 0.018228436 31-Dec 15.00% 222,095,806 1,589,823,704,626,930 0.031701628 0.015850814 Year 2013 ends 11-Jan 15.00% 255,410,177 1,828,297,260,320,970 0.027566633 0.013783317 Year 2014 starts 22-Jan 15.00% 293,721,703 2,102,541,849,369,110 0.023970985 0.011985493 2-Feb 15.00% 337,779,959 2,417,923,126,774,480 0.020844335 0.010422168 13-Feb 15.00% 388,446,953 2,780,611,595,790,650 0.018125509 0.009062754 24-Feb 15.00% 446,713,995 3,197,703,335,159,250 0.015761312 0.007880656 7-Mar 15.00% 513,721,095 3,677,358,835,433,140 0.013705489 0.006852744 18-Mar 15.00% 590,779,259 4,228,962,660,748,110 0.011917816 0.005958908 29-Mar 15.00% 679,396,148 4,863,307,059,860,320 0.010363318 0.005181659 9-Apr 15.00% 781,305,570 5,592,803,118,839,370 0.009011581 0.004505791 20-Apr 15.00% 898,501,405 6,431,723,586,665,280 0.007836158 0.003918079 1-May 15.00% 1,033,276,616 7,396,482,124,665,070 0.00681405 0.003407025 12-May 15.00% 1,188,268,109 8,505,954,443,364,830 0.005925261 0.00296263 23-May 15.00% 1,366,508,325 9,781,847,609,869,560 0.005152401 0.0025762 3-Jun 15.00% 1,571,484,574 11,249,124,751,350,000 0.004480349 0.002240174 14-Jun 15.00% 1,807,207,260 12,936,493,464,052,500 0.003895955 0.001947978 25-Jun 15.00% 2,078,288,349 14,876,967,483,660,400 0.003387787 0.001693894 6-Jul 15.00% 2,390,031,601 17,108,512,606,209,400 0.002945902 0.001472951 17-Jul 15.00% 2,748,536,341 19,674,789,497,140,800 0.002561654 0.001280827 28-Jul 15.00% 3,160,816,793 22,626,007,921,711,900 0.002227525 0.001113763 8-Aug 15.00% 3,634,939,312 26,019,909,109,968,700 0.001936978 0.000968489 19-Aug 15.00% 4,180,180,208 29,922,895,476,464,000 0.001684329 0.000842164 30-Aug 15.00% 4,807,207,240 34,411,329,797,933,700 0.001464634 0.000732317 10-Sep 15.00% 5,528,288,325 39,573,029,267,623,700 0.001273595 0.000636797 21-Sep 15.00% 6,357,531,574 45,508,983,657,767,300 0.001107474 0.000553737 2-Oct 15.00% 7,311,161,310 52,335,331,206,432,400 0.000963021 0.00048151 13-Oct 15.00% 8,407,835,507 60,185,630,887,397,200 0.000837409 0.000418705 24-Oct 15.00% 9,669,010,833 69,213,475,520,506,800 0.000728182 0.000364091 4-Nov 15.00% 11,119,362,458 79,595,496,848,582,800 0.000633202 0.000316601 15-Nov 15.00% 12,787,266,827 91,534,821,375,870,200 0.00055061 0.000275305 26-Nov 15.00% 14,705,356,851 105,265,044,582,251,000 0.000478791 0.000239396 7-Dec 15.00% 16,911,160,378 121,054,801,269,588,000 0.00041634 0.00020817 18-Dec 15.00% 19,447,834,435 139,213,021,460,027,000 0.000362035 0.000181018 29-Dec 15.00% 22,365,009,600 160,094,974,679,031,000 0.000314813 0.000157407 Year 2014 ends Future Prediction with average 10% difficulty increase Payout 13464.36166 3526.78365 Number of Blocks per day Number of Blocks per day Date Change Difficulty(D) Network Hash Rate= D * 2^32/600 KNCMiner Jupiter(350GH/s) KNCMiner Saturn(175GH/s) 5-Jun 28.41% 15,605,633 111,709,472,280,631 0.451170335 0.225585167 Year 2013 starts 16-Jun 10% 17,166,196 122,880,419,508,694 0.41015485 0.205077425 27-Jun 10% 18,882,816 135,168,461,459,563 0.372868045 0.186434023 8-Jul 10% 20,771,098 148,685,307,605,519 0.33897095 0.169485475 19-Jul 10% 22,848,207 163,553,838,366,071 0.308155409 0.154077705 30-Jul 10% 25,133,028 179,909,222,202,678 0.280141281 0.140070641 10-Aug 10% 27,646,331 197,900,144,422,946 0.254673892 0.127336946 21-Aug 10% 30,410,964 217,690,158,865,241 0.23152172 0.11576086 1-Sep 10% 33,452,060 239,459,174,751,765 0.210474291 0.105237145 12-Sep 10% 36,797,266 263,405,092,226,941 0.191340264 0.095670132 23-Sep 10% 40,476,993 289,745,601,449,635 0.173945695 0.086972847 4-Oct 10% 44,524,692 318,720,161,594,599 0.15813245 0.079066225 15-Oct 10% 48,977,161 350,592,177,754,059 0.143756773 0.071878386 26-Oct 10% 53,874,878 385,651,395,529,465 0.130687975 0.065343988 6-Nov 10% 59,262,365 424,216,535,082,411 0.11880725 0.059403625 17-Nov 10% 65,188,602 466,638,188,590,653 0.108006591 0.054003296 28-Nov 10% 71,707,462 513,302,007,449,718 0.09818781 0.049093905 9-Dec 10% 78,878,208 564,632,208,194,690 0.089261645 0.044630823 20-Dec 10% 86,766,029 621,095,429,014,159 0.08114695 0.040573475 31-Dec 10% 95,442,632 683,204,971,915,575 0.073769955 0.036884977 Year 2014 starts 11-Jan 10% 104,986,895 751,525,469,107,132 0.067063595 0.033531798 22-Jan 10% 115,485,585 826,678,016,017,845 0.060966905 0.030483452 2-Feb 10% 127,034,143 909,345,817,619,630 0.055424459 0.02771223 13-Feb 10% 139,737,558 1,000,280,399,381,590 0.050385872 0.025192936 24-Feb 10% 153,711,313 1,100,308,439,319,750 0.045805338 0.022902669 7-Mar 10% 169,082,445 1,210,339,283,251,730 0.041641216 0.020820608 18-Mar 10% 185,990,689 1,331,373,211,576,900 0.037855651 0.018927826 29-Mar 10% 204,589,758 1,464,510,532,734,590 0.034414228 0.017207114 9-Apr 10% 225,048,734 1,610,961,586,008,050 0.031285662 0.015642831 20-Apr 10% 247,553,607 1,772,057,744,608,850 0.028441511 0.014220756 1-May 10% 272,308,968 1,949,263,519,069,740 0.025855919 0.01292796 12-May 10% 299,539,865 2,144,189,870,976,710 0.023505381 0.011752691 23-May 10% 329,493,851 2,358,608,858,074,380 0.021368528 0.010684264 3-Jun 10% 362,443,236 2,594,469,743,881,820 0.019425935 0.009712967 14-Jun 10% 398,687,560 2,853,916,718,270,010 0.017659941 0.00882997 25-Jun 10% 438,556,316 3,139,308,390,097,010 0.016054492 0.008027246 6-Jul 10% 482,411,947 3,453,239,229,106,710 0.014594992 0.007297496 17-Jul 10% 530,653,142 3,798,563,152,017,380 0.013268175 0.006634087 28-Jul 10% 583,718,456 4,178,419,467,219,110 0.012061977 0.006030989 8-Aug 10% 642,090,302 4,596,261,413,941,030 0.010965434 0.005482717 19-Aug 10% 706,299,332 5,055,887,555,335,130 0.009968576 0.004984288 30-Aug 10% 776,929,265 5,561,476,310,868,640 0.009062342 0.004531171 10-Sep 10% 854,622,192 6,117,623,941,955,500 0.008238493 0.004119246 21-Sep 10% 940,084,411 6,729,386,336,151,060 0.007489539 0.003744769 2-Oct 10% 1,034,092,852 7,402,324,969,766,160 0.006808672 0.003404336 13-Oct 10% 1,137,502,138 8,142,557,466,742,780 0.006189701 0.003094851 24-Oct 10% 1,251,252,351 8,956,813,213,417,060 0.005627001 0.002813501 4-Nov 10% 1,376,377,586 9,852,494,534,758,760 0.005115456 0.002557728 15-Nov 10% 1,514,015,345 10,837,743,988,234,600 0.004650414 0.002325207 26-Nov 10% 1,665,416,880 11,921,518,387,058,100 0.004227649 0.002113825 7-Dec 10% 1,831,958,568 13,113,670,225,763,900 0.003843318 0.001921659 18-Dec 10% 2,015,154,424 14,425,037,248,340,300 0.003493925 0.001746963 29-Dec 10% 2,216,669,867 15,867,540,973,174,300 0.003176296 0.001588148 Year 2014 ends Payout 25350.36299 12675.1815 Prediction with 20% Difficulty increase per day Number of Blocks per day Number of Blocks per day Date Change Difficulty(D) Network Hash Rate= D * 2^32/600 KNCMiner Jupiter(350GH/s) KNCMiner Saturn(175GH/s) 5-Jun 28.41% 15,605,633 111,709,472,280,631 0.451170335 0.225585167 16-Jun 20% 18,726,760 134,051,366,736,757 0.375975279 0.187987639 27-Jun 20% 22,472,112 160,861,640,084,108 0.313312732 0.156656366 8-Jul 20% 26,966,534 193,033,968,100,930 0.261093944 0.130546972 19-Jul 20% 32,359,841 231,640,761,721,116 0.217578286 0.108789143 30-Jul 20% 38,831,809 277,968,914,065,339 0.181315239 0.090657619 10-Aug 20% 46,598,170 333,562,696,878,407 0.151096032 0.075548016 21-Aug 20% 55,917,805 400,275,236,254,088 0.12591336 0.06295668 1-Sep 20% 67,101,365 480,330,283,504,906 0.1049278 0.0524639 12-Sep 20% 80,521,639 576,396,340,205,887 0.087439833 0.043719917 23-Sep 20% 96,625,966 691,675,608,247,064 0.072866528 0.036433264 4-Oct 20% 115,951,159 830,010,729,896,477 0.060722107 0.030361053 15-Oct 20% 139,141,391 996,012,875,875,772 0.050601755 0.025300878 26-Oct 20% 166,969,670 1,195,215,451,050,930 0.04216813 0.021084065 6-Nov 20% 200,363,604 1,434,258,541,261,110 0.035140108 0.017570054 17-Nov 20% 240,436,324 1,721,110,249,513,330 0.029283423 0.014641712 28-Nov 20% 288,523,589 2,065,332,299,416,000 0.024402853 0.012201426 9-Dec 20% 346,228,307 2,478,398,759,299,200 0.020335711 0.010167855 20-Dec 20% 415,473,968 2,974,078,511,159,040 0.016946426 0.008473213 31-Dec 20% 498,568,762 3,568,894,213,390,850 0.014122021 0.007061011 11-Jan 20% 598,282,515 4,282,673,056,069,020 0.011768351 0.005884176 22-Jan 20% 717,939,017 5,139,207,667,282,820 0.009806959 0.00490348 2-Feb 20% 861,526,821 6,167,049,200,739,390 0.008172466 0.004086233 13-Feb 20% 1,033,832,185 7,400,459,040,887,270 0.006810388 0.003405194 24-Feb 20% 1,240,598,622 8,880,550,849,064,720 0.005675324 0.002837662 7-Mar 20% 1,488,718,347 10,656,661,018,877,700 0.004729436 0.002364718 18-Mar 20% 1,786,462,016 12,787,993,222,653,200 0.003941197 0.001970598 29-Mar 20% 2,143,754,419 15,345,591,867,183,800 0.003284331 0.001642165 9-Apr 20% 2,572,505,303 18,414,710,240,620,600 0.002736942 0.001368471 20-Apr 20% 3,087,006,363 22,097,652,288,744,700 0.002280785 0.001140393 1-May 20% 3,704,407,636 26,517,182,746,493,700 0.001900654 0.000950327 12-May 20% 4,445,289,163 31,820,619,295,792,400 0.001583879 0.000791939 23-May 20% 5,334,346,996 38,184,743,154,950,900 0.001319899 0.000659949 3-Jun 20% 6,401,216,395 45,821,691,785,941,100 0.001099916 0.000549958 14-Jun 20% 7,681,459,674 54,986,030,143,129,300 0.000916596 0.000458298 25-Jun 20% 9,217,751,609 65,983,236,171,755,100 0.00076383 0.000381915 6-Jul 20% 11,061,301,931 79,179,883,406,106,200 0.000636525 0.000318263 17-Jul 20% 13,273,562,317 95,015,860,087,327,400 0.000530438 0.000265219 28-Jul 20% 15,928,274,780 114,019,032,104,793,000 0.000442031 0.000221016 8-Aug 20% 19,113,929,736 136,822,838,525,751,000 0.00036836 0.00018418 19-Aug 20% 22,936,715,684 164,187,406,230,902,000 0.000306966 0.000153483 30-Aug 20% 27,524,058,820 197,024,887,477,082,000 0.000255805 0.000127903 10-Sep 20% 33,028,870,584 236,429,864,972,498,000 0.000213171 0.000106586 21-Sep 20% 39,634,644,701 283,715,837,966,998,000 0.000177643 8.88213E-05 2-Oct 20% 47,561,573,641 340,459,005,560,398,000 0.000148035 7.40177E-05 13-Oct 20% 57,073,888,370 408,550,806,672,477,000 0.000123363 6.16814E-05 24-Oct 20% 68,488,666,044 490,260,968,006,973,000 0.000102802 5.14012E-05 4-Nov 20% 82,186,399,252 588,313,161,608,367,000 8.56687E-05 4.28343E-05 15-Nov 20% 98,623,679,103 705,975,793,930,041,000 7.13905E-05 3.56953E-05 26-Nov 20% 118,348,414,923 847,170,952,716,049,000 5.94921E-05 2.97461E-05 7-Dec 20% 142,018,097,908 1,016,605,143,259,260,000 4.95768E-05 2.47884E-05 18-Dec 20% 170,421,717,490 1,219,926,171,911,110,000 4.1314E-05 2.0657E-05 29-Dec 20% 204,506,060,988 1,463,911,406,293,330,000 3.44283E-05 1.72142E-05 Payout 3991.297484 2398.295812 Prediction with 25% Difficulty increase per day Number of Blocks per day Number of Blocks per day Date Change Difficulty(D) Network Hash Rate= D * 2^32/600 KNCMiner Jupiter(350GH/s) KNCMiner Saturn(175GH/s) 5-Jun 28.41% 15,605,633 111,709,472,280,631 0.451170335 0.225585167 16-Jun 25% 19,507,041 139,636,840,350,788 0.360936268 0.180468134 27-Jun 25% 24,383,802 174,546,050,438,485 0.288749014 0.144374507 8-Jul 25% 30,479,752 218,182,563,048,107 0.230999211 0.115499606 19-Jul 25% 38,099,690 272,728,203,810,133 0.184799369 0.092399685 30-Jul 25% 47,624,612 340,910,254,762,667 0.147839495 0.073919748 10-Aug 25% 59,530,766 426,137,818,453,333 0.118271596 0.059135798 21-Aug 25% 74,413,457 532,672,273,066,667 0.094617277 0.047308638 1-Sep 25% 93,016,821 665,840,341,333,333 0.075693822 0.037846911 12-Sep 25% 116,271,026 832,300,426,666,667 0.060555057 0.030277529 23-Sep 25% 145,338,783 1,040,375,533,333,330 0.048444046 0.024222023 4-Oct 25% 181,673,479 1,300,469,416,666,670 0.038755237 0.019377618 15-Oct 25% 227,091,849 1,625,586,770,833,330 0.031004189 0.015502095 26-Oct 25% 283,864,811 2,031,983,463,541,670 0.024803351 0.012401676 6-Nov 25% 354,831,013 2,539,979,329,427,080 0.019842681 0.009921341 17-Nov 25% 443,538,767 3,174,974,161,783,850 0.015874145 0.007937072 28-Nov 25% 554,423,458 3,968,717,702,229,820 0.012699316 0.006349658 9-Dec 25% 693,029,323 4,960,897,127,787,270 0.010159453 0.005079726 20-Dec 25% 866,286,654 6,201,121,409,734,090 0.008127562 0.004063781 31-Dec 25% 1,082,858,317 7,751,401,762,167,610 0.00650205 0.003251025 11-Jan 25% 1,353,572,896 9,689,252,202,709,520 0.00520164 0.00260082 22-Jan 25% 1,691,966,120 12,111,565,253,386,900 0.004161312 0.002080656 2-Feb 25% 2,114,957,650 15,139,456,566,733,600 0.003329049 0.001664525 13-Feb 25% 2,643,697,063 18,924,320,708,417,000 0.00266324 0.00133162 24-Feb 25% 3,304,621,328 23,655,400,885,521,300 0.002130592 0.001065296 7-Mar 25% 4,130,776,661 29,569,251,106,901,600 0.001704473 0.000852237 18-Mar 25% 5,163,470,826 36,961,563,883,627,000 0.001363579 0.000681789 29-Mar 25% 6,454,338,532 46,201,954,854,533,800 0.001090863 0.000545431 9-Apr 25% 8,067,923,165 57,752,443,568,167,200 0.00087269 0.000436345 20-Apr 25% 10,084,903,956 72,190,554,460,209,000 0.000698152 0.000349076 1-May 25% 12,606,129,946 90,238,193,075,261,200 0.000558522 0.000279261 12-May 25% 15,757,662,432 112,797,741,344,077,000 0.000446817 0.000223409 23-May 25% 19,697,078,040 140,997,176,680,096,000 0.000357454 0.000178727 3-Jun 25% 24,621,347,550 176,246,470,850,120,000 0.000285963 0.000142982 14-Jun 25% 30,776,684,437 220,308,088,562,650,000 0.000228771 0.000114385 25-Jun 25% 38,470,855,547 275,385,110,703,312,000 0.000183016 9.15082E-05 6-Jul 25% 48,088,569,433 344,231,388,379,140,000 0.000146413 7.32066E-05 17-Jul 25% 60,110,711,792 430,289,235,473,925,000 0.000117131 5.85653E-05 28-Jul 25% 75,138,389,740 537,861,544,342,406,000 9.37044E-05 4.68522E-05 8-Aug 25% 93,922,987,174 672,326,930,428,008,000 7.49635E-05 3.74818E-05 19-Aug 25% 117,403,733,968 840,408,663,035,010,000 5.99708E-05 2.99854E-05 30-Aug 25% 146,754,667,460 1,050,510,828,793,760,000 4.79767E-05 2.39883E-05 10-Sep 25% 183,443,334,325 1,313,138,535,992,200,000 3.83813E-05 1.91907E-05 21-Sep 25% 229,304,167,906 1,641,423,169,990,250,000 3.07051E-05 1.53525E-05 2-Oct 25% 286,630,209,883 2,051,778,962,487,820,000 2.4564E-05 1.2282E-05 13-Oct 25% 358,287,762,354 2,564,723,703,109,770,000 1.96512E-05 9.82562E-06 24-Oct 25% 447,859,702,942 3,205,904,628,887,210,000 1.5721E-05 7.8605E-06 4-Nov 25% 559,824,628,678 4,007,380,786,109,020,000 1.25768E-05 6.2884E-06 15-Nov 25% 699,780,785,847 5,009,225,982,636,270,000 1.00614E-05 5.03072E-06 26-Nov 25% 874,725,982,309 6,261,532,478,295,340,000 8.04915E-06 4.02457E-06 7-Dec 25% 1,093,407,477,886 7,826,915,597,869,170,000 6.43932E-06 3.21966E-06 18-Dec 25% 1,366,759,347,357 9,783,644,497,336,470,000 5.15145E-06 2.57573E-06 29-Dec 25% 1,708,449,184,197 12,229,555,621,670,600,000 4.12116E-06 2.06058E-06 Payout 1671.24337 1045.160398 Prediction with 30% Difficulty increase per day Number of Blocks per day Number of Blocks per day Date Change Difficulty(D) Network Hash Rate= D * 2^32/600 KNCMiner Jupiter(350GH/s) KNCMiner Saturn(175GH/s) 5-Jun 28.41% 15,605,633 111,709,472,280,631 0.451170335 0.225585167 16-Jun 30% 20,287,323 145,222,313,964,820 0.347054104 0.173527052 27-Jun 30% 26,373,520 188,789,008,154,266 0.266964695 0.133482348 8-Jul 30% 34,285,576 245,425,710,600,545 0.205357458 0.102678729 19-Jul 30% 44,571,248 319,053,423,780,709 0.157967275 0.078983638 30-Jul 30% 57,942,623 414,769,450,914,922 0.121513289 0.060756644 10-Aug 30% 75,325,410 539,200,286,189,398 0.09347176 0.04673588 21-Aug 30% 97,923,033 700,960,372,046,218 0.071901354 0.035950677 1-Sep 30% 127,299,943 911,248,483,660,083 0.055308734 0.027654367 12-Sep 30% 165,489,925 1,184,623,028,758,110 0.04254518 0.02127259 23-Sep 30% 215,136,903 1,540,009,937,385,540 0.032727062 0.016363531 4-Oct 30% 279,677,974 2,002,012,918,601,200 0.025174663 0.012587331 15-Oct 30% 363,581,366 2,602,616,794,181,560 0.019365125 0.009682563 26-Oct 30% 472,655,776 3,383,401,832,436,030 0.01489625 0.007448125 6-Nov 30% 614,452,509 4,398,422,382,166,840 0.011458654 0.005729327 17-Nov 30% 798,788,261 5,717,949,096,816,890 0.008814349 0.004407175 28-Nov 30% 1,038,424,740 7,433,333,825,861,960 0.006780269 0.003390134 9-Dec 30% 1,349,952,161 9,663,333,973,620,550 0.005215591 0.002607796 20-Dec 30% 1,754,937,810 12,562,334,165,706,700 0.004011993 0.002005997 31-Dec 30% 2,281,419,153 16,331,034,415,418,700 0.003086149 0.001543074 11-Jan 30% 2,965,844,898 21,230,344,740,044,300 0.002373961 0.00118698 22-Jan 30% 3,855,598,368 27,599,448,162,057,600 0.001826123 0.000913062 2-Feb 30% 5,012,277,878 35,879,282,610,674,900 0.00140471 0.000702355 13-Feb 30% 6,515,961,242 46,643,067,393,877,400 0.001080546 0.000540273 24-Feb 30% 8,470,749,615 60,635,987,612,040,600 0.00083119 0.000415595 7-Mar 30% 11,011,974,499 78,826,783,895,652,800 0.000639377 0.000319688 18-Mar 30% 14,315,566,849 102,474,819,064,349,000 0.000491828 0.000245914 29-Mar 30% 18,610,236,903 133,217,264,783,653,000 0.000378329 0.000189165 9-Apr 30% 24,193,307,974 173,182,444,218,749,000 0.000291023 0.000145511 20-Apr 30% 31,451,300,366 225,137,177,484,374,000 0.000223864 0.000111932 1-May 30% 40,886,690,476 292,678,330,729,686,000 0.000172203 8.61014E-05 12-May 30% 53,152,697,619 380,481,829,948,592,000 0.000132464 6.62318E-05 23-May 30% 69,098,506,905 494,626,378,933,170,000 0.000101895 5.09475E-05 3-Jun 30% 89,828,058,977 643,014,292,613,121,000 7.83808E-05 3.91904E-05 14-Jun 30% 116,776,476,670 835,918,580,397,057,000 6.0293E-05 3.01465E-05 25-Jun 30% 151,809,419,671 1,086,694,154,516,170,000 4.63792E-05 2.31896E-05 6-Jul 30% 197,352,245,572 1,412,702,400,871,030,000 3.56763E-05 1.78382E-05 17-Jul 30% 256,557,919,243 1,836,513,121,132,330,000 2.74433E-05 1.37217E-05 28-Jul 30% 333,525,295,016 2,387,467,057,472,030,000 2.11102E-05 1.05551E-05 8-Aug 30% 433,582,883,521 3,103,707,174,713,640,000 1.62386E-05 8.11932E-06 19-Aug 30% 563,657,748,577 4,034,819,327,127,740,000 1.24913E-05 6.24563E-06 30-Aug 30% 732,755,073,151 5,245,265,125,266,060,000 9.60867E-06 4.80433E-06 10-Sep 30% 952,581,595,096 6,818,844,662,845,880,000 7.39128E-06 3.69564E-06 21-Sep 30% 1,238,356,073,624 8,864,498,061,699,640,000 5.6856E-06 2.8428E-06 2-Oct 30% 1,609,862,895,712 11,523,847,480,209,500,000 4.37354E-06 2.18677E-06 13-Oct 30% 2,092,821,764,425 14,981,001,724,272,400,000 3.36426E-06 1.68213E-06 24-Oct 30% 2,720,668,293,753 19,475,302,241,554,100,000 2.58789E-06 1.29395E-06 4-Nov 30% 3,536,868,781,879 25,317,892,914,020,300,000 1.99069E-06 9.95343E-07 15-Nov 30% 4,597,929,416,442 32,913,260,788,226,400,000 1.5313E-06 7.65649E-07 26-Nov 30% 5,977,308,241,375 42,787,239,024,694,400,000 1.17792E-06 5.88961E-07 7-Dec 30% 7,770,500,713,787 55,623,410,732,102,700,000 9.06093E-07 4.53047E-07 18-Dec 30% 10,101,650,927,924 72,310,433,951,733,500,000 6.96995E-07 3.48497E-07 29-Dec 30% 13,132,146,206,301 94,003,564,137,253,500,000 5.3615E-07 2.68075E-07 Payout 745.016506 484.3826851 Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: ripple on June 12, 2013, 02:48:25 PM To add to your useful spreadsheet analysis, further details about the Jupiter and Saturn from KnCMiner.
Jupiter hashes at 350 GH/s, shipment is also in September 2013, with a $6,995 USD price tag. Saturn hashes at 175 GH/s, shipment is in September 2013, with a $3,795 USD price tag. The units are built on a 28nm processes which has greater efficient power efficiency. From above, the Jupiter cost ratio is $19.98 per Gh/s, and the Saturn $21.68 per Gh/s. Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: brishtiteveja on June 12, 2013, 02:49:58 PM @ripple,
:) Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: pheaonix on June 12, 2013, 02:55:57 PM assumes they will ship
assumes they will ship at date specified assumes they have a chip assumes they can get the chip made assumes they can have boards made Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: brishtiteveja on June 12, 2013, 02:58:04 PM Ho
assumes they will ship assumes they will ship at date specified assumes they have a chip assumes they can get the chip made assumes they can have boards made Hope all those assumptions come true.. People are so crazy.. I just got surprised to see how people can trust mere strangers in kncminer group buy...!! Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: Tamis on June 12, 2013, 03:41:37 PM As I said in another thread this shows clearly not to invest !
Mining is going to be run by companies like asicminer and such... individuals will soon be left out ! Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: WillMilk4Coin on June 12, 2013, 04:36:25 PM That's quite the analysis. I can appreciate the time you might have spent putting this together, but I don't think it would be a realistic assumption to apply a static % forecast all the way through next year, however. For example, according to your data a 15% increase in December of this year would be a plausible 29 million jump, but carried through it would cause difficulty to jump nearly 3 billion in only the last 11 days of December 2014. Maybe you were doing this for a very rough, "worst-case scenario" calculation, but absent any new tech or remarkable advancements in efficiency, a 3G increase in 11 days isn't very reasonable. Before the end of this year, we will certainly find difficulty swelling with % increases that we have not yet seen, but as difficulty climbs, we'll see far fewer orders placed and much less production as more and more find their opportunity for ROI dwindle. The growth will be far more parabolic with large increases to start and steadily smaller changes in time.
As far as profitability, miners will begin turning off their rigs somewhere between 3.5-5.5G as long as general power costs and BTC value don't change dramatically in either direction. For now, and especially with still very few ASICs having hit the market, we'll continue to see increasingly large jumps in difficulty coming in the next 6mo - 1yr as the ASIC companies finally start to deliver. After this surge of pre-orders fulfillment and a wave of post-orders, we'll see the difficulty rate increase at continually slower rates. For my estimations, I'm planning on a difficulty of 1 billion by this time next year and maybe 2 billion by the end of 2014. To sum, while the window of opportunity is closing quickly, I think there's still time for someone to invest in a miner as long as they take power efficiency into consideration. Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: pkobse on June 12, 2013, 07:08:47 PM As I said in another thread this shows clearly not to invest ! Mining is going to be run by companies like asicminer and such... individuals will soon be left out ! And when this happens, bitcoin will slowly die (maybe faster than slowly). The aim for decentralization is broken. Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: brishtiteveja on June 12, 2013, 11:15:13 PM @WillMilk4coin,
It's of course not a realistic assumption. But Already last one month difficulty increase was 16%...So on average the increase is going to be 10-25% over six months or year for sure. So in smaller range, your profitability may differ and profitability sharply depends on BTC/USD price... And about the miner's behavior.. You never know..They will never be altruistic enough to think about the whole bitcoin community.. Because if you show someone 10x~20x profit...They are likely to invest and keep their rigs on.. Another thing is Kncminer is going to host their miners in sweden for their customers...In that case, I dunnoo..And I am afraid that more hosting providing mining system will come..And if all these asic companies are greedy enough, difficulty can jump more than 25%... But if BTC price rises with it, then you win. The same way as BTC sharply rose from last year November..But there I also think, BTC is going to encounter lots of political blow the more it gains popularity..So there are real risk. However, all you said can be totally true.. The thing is we can just predict in some way, in real world it's much more uncertain.Let's see. @all, Thank you for your comments. Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: endriuska on June 13, 2013, 02:05:08 AM once the hash rate goes up, doesn't it find blocks more quickly, thus the difficulty will increase more often?
Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: brishtiteveja on June 13, 2013, 06:04:58 AM Some Explanations..
on average difficulty will be increased every 14 days almost Date Increase(%) Difficulty Level(D) 2/5/2013 10.33 3651012 2/18/2013 11.47 4367876 3/1/2013 19.63 4847647 3/14/2013 10.98 6695826 3/24/2013 38.13 7673000 4/5/2013 14.59 8974296 4/17/2013 12.28 10076293 4/30/2013 12.28 11187257 5/12/2013 11.03 11187257 5/25/2013 8.64 12153412 6/5/2013 28.41 15605633 16.16090909 || you can see the average increase in 16.16% from February 2nd upto June 6.... Why do you think the last big 28.41% increase? probably lots of guys got their BFLS and avalon mining devices !!!! So every 11 day the difficulty is not going to be increased by a fixed (10/20/25/30) % , but on average it will be more than 10~15%. So for you in some weeks when the difficulty is low can be luckier...But difficulty will make that up in the next session. If difficulty: D Number of Found Blocks: N Total Network Hash Rate:H = time * hashrate of miners For each hash the proability of solving a block is 1/(2^32 * D) (Read the difficulty page from bitcoin wiki) D = Maximum Target / Current Target Current Target gets adjusted so that on average every 2 week the number of blocks found is 2016 (1 block in 10 minutes). So, why difficulty increases some week? - Because in the previous 2 week session, miners mined way more than 2016 blocks. But then the difficulty gets increased heavily. But even though, miners mine more than 2016 blocks (but comparatively less than the previous time).So this time difficulty gets increased slightly.. Then miners again mine way more than 2016 blocks with their new hash powers.. These go on and these will continue going on resulting huge network hash rate... so the fixed increase is actually a rough estimation only.. but the picture will be the same.. It depends on you, which week you are mining..It may turn luckier for you but that won't go on forever.. :( Thank you. you can download the xls file from here: http://brishtiteveja.com/Downloads/Timevsdifficulty.xlsx Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: suryc on June 13, 2013, 06:14:00 AM Thanks for sharing the xls file. Very helpful.
Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: Amph on June 13, 2013, 07:57:36 AM Ho yeah lolassumes they will ship assumes they will ship at date specified assumes they have a chip assumes they can get the chip made assumes they can have boards made Hope all those assumptions come true.. People are so crazy.. I just got surprised to see how people can trust mere strangers in kncminer group buy...!! also a 350 gh with 100M+ difficulty, isn't worth their price anymore Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: Tamis on June 13, 2013, 08:33:39 AM All those buying asic right now will probably just break even if they are lucky but a lot will sadly lose money.
All the analysis point to the same conclusion. Why do you think compagnies sell mining equipement instead of mining ? Because they know what's coming and selling mining equipment will generate much more money than mining with it ! To think I was about to invest... Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: razorfishsl on June 13, 2013, 11:53:31 AM You may as well do a spreadsheet predicting the weather for the coming year......
Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: Tamis on June 13, 2013, 12:40:34 PM You may as well do a spreadsheet predicting the weather for the coming year...... If only weather would be as predictable as bitcoin mining... Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: brishtiteveja on June 13, 2013, 05:06:07 PM @Tamis,
;D ;) Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: ASICMining on June 27, 2013, 10:39:17 AM So basically, you'd need a 600GH/sec machine at the $7000 price point shipping in september to break even?
Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: bcpokey on June 28, 2013, 04:35:47 AM So basically, you'd need a 600GH/sec machine at the $7000 price point shipping in september to break even? No? Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: Perseus353 on June 28, 2013, 02:04:57 PM Depressing stats.
I ordered a KNC yesterday with the option to pick it up in Stockholm (I live in London) -- which, hopefully hopefully, can be done when I'm in town for an international security conference in late September. It's looking a lot like ASIC mining is a game that everyone is losing together. That said -- there is one qualification on a positive note: with the rise of ASIC mining and the total hashing power of the network and increase in difficulty, there is also a countervailing trend that may be a source of slight optimism: if everyone is moving to ASIC, then the FPGA and GPU rigs are bowing out, and switching to other coins -- that could mean a drop of about 100 TH/s of the network, counteracting the 400-600 Th/s increase that ASIC will bring about come fall. One can hope. Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: bcpokey on June 29, 2013, 12:19:43 AM Depressing stats. I ordered a KNC yesterday with the option to pick it up in Stockholm (I live in London) -- which, hopefully hopefully, can be done when I'm in town for an international security conference in late September. It's looking a lot like ASIC mining is a game that everyone is losing together. That said -- there is one qualification on a positive note: with the rise of ASIC mining and the total hashing power of the network and increase in difficulty, there is also a countervailing trend that may be a source of slight optimism: if everyone is moving to ASIC, then the FPGA and GPU rigs are bowing out, and switching to other coins -- that could mean a drop of about 100 TH/s of the network, counteracting the 400-600 Th/s increase that ASIC will bring about come fall. One can hope. GPUs probably make up only about 40TH/sec of the network. FPGAs don't really have any reason to bow out, they're not that much less efficient than ASICs. By the time they have to drop out, the amount of hashing power they represent won't even be noticed. Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: polarhei on June 29, 2013, 01:31:24 AM Depressing stats. I ordered a KNC yesterday with the option to pick it up in Stockholm (I live in London) -- which, hopefully hopefully, can be done when I'm in town for an international security conference in late September. It's looking a lot like ASIC mining is a game that everyone is losing together. That said -- there is one qualification on a positive note: with the rise of ASIC mining and the total hashing power of the network and increase in difficulty, there is also a countervailing trend that may be a source of slight optimism: if everyone is moving to ASIC, then the FPGA and GPU rigs are bowing out, and switching to other coins -- that could mean a drop of about 100 TH/s of the network, counteracting the 400-600 Th/s increase that ASIC will bring about come fall. One can hope. GPUs probably make up only about 40TH/sec of the network. FPGAs don't really have any reason to bow out, they're not that much less efficient than ASICs. By the time they have to drop out, the amount of hashing power they represent won't even be noticed. FPGA is the mother for design. Even it is failed at last, you still need to re-use the FPGA for next. Additionally, Slow has slow usage. But not for long. Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: frankenmint on June 29, 2013, 03:02:39 AM Depressing stats. I ordered a KNC yesterday with the option to pick it up in Stockholm (I live in London) -- which, hopefully hopefully, can be done when I'm in town for an international security conference in late September. It's looking a lot like ASIC mining is a game that everyone is losing together. That said -- there is one qualification on a positive note: with the rise of ASIC mining and the total hashing power of the network and increase in difficulty, there is also a countervailing trend that may be a source of slight optimism: if everyone is moving to ASIC, then the FPGA and GPU rigs are bowing out, and switching to other coins -- that could mean a drop of about 100 TH/s of the network, counteracting the 400-600 Th/s increase that ASIC will bring about come fall. One can hope. GPUs probably make up only about 40TH/sec of the network. FPGAs don't really have any reason to bow out, they're not that much less efficient than ASICs. By the time they have to drop out, the amount of hashing power they represent won't even be noticed. FPGA is the mother for design. Even it is failed at last, you still need to re-use the FPGA for next. Additionally, Slow has slow usage. But not for long. My BOSH if that happens I'm takin my freicoins to the bank!!!! errm..exchange. Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: Bagpipe on July 07, 2013, 06:33:43 PM In September, the difficulty will be anywhere from 80 to 180 million, and BTC price from 40 to 60 USD, and a KnC miner will be able to pay itself off in about 120 to 150 days in a bad case, basically it won't make much money after that, but get real, a very good investment pays off in 2 years, and those that pay off i 5 years are also not so common, the age of great returns on investments is definitely over.
If you don't believe me, you can ask trollbox for financial advice instead. Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: sikman on July 09, 2013, 01:42:34 AM very true about the good old days are all over very soon, you best bet when buying an ASIC is that you break even, I hope I'm wrong!!
Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: dominicus on July 09, 2013, 02:31:45 AM Depressing stats. I ordered a KNC yesterday with the option to pick it up in Stockholm (I live in London) -- which, hopefully hopefully, can be done when I'm in town for an international security conference in late September. It's looking a lot like ASIC mining is a game that everyone is losing together. That said -- there is one qualification on a positive note: with the rise of ASIC mining and the total hashing power of the network and increase in difficulty, there is also a countervailing trend that may be a source of slight optimism: if everyone is moving to ASIC, then the FPGA and GPU rigs are bowing out, and switching to other coins -- that could mean a drop of about 100 TH/s of the network, counteracting the 400-600 Th/s increase that ASIC will bring about come fall. One can hope. I was thinking the same thing. At the default difficulty, my bitcoins were costing above $100/BTC to mine, but I downloaded the difficulty adjustment patch, all better now. 8) Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: k9quaint on July 12, 2013, 02:34:49 AM Figures without tables and in proportional fonts make me cry. :'(
Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: Perseus353 on July 12, 2013, 07:37:09 AM Depressing stats. I ordered a KNC yesterday with the option to pick it up in Stockholm (I live in London) -- which, hopefully hopefully, can be done when I'm in town for an international security conference in late September. It's looking a lot like ASIC mining is a game that everyone is losing together. That said -- there is one qualification on a positive note: with the rise of ASIC mining and the total hashing power of the network and increase in difficulty, there is also a countervailing trend that may be a source of slight optimism: if everyone is moving to ASIC, then the FPGA and GPU rigs are bowing out, and switching to other coins -- that could mean a drop of about 100 TH/s of the network, counteracting the 400-600 Th/s increase that ASIC will bring about come fall. One can hope. I was thinking the same thing. At the default difficulty, my bitcoins were costing above $100/BTC to mine, but I downloaded the difficulty adjustment patch, all better now. 8) What is the "difficulty adjustment patch" ? Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: drdops on July 12, 2013, 09:28:58 AM Depressing stats. I ordered a KNC yesterday with the option to pick it up in Stockholm (I live in London) -- which, hopefully hopefully, can be done when I'm in town for an international security conference in late September. It's looking a lot like ASIC mining is a game that everyone is losing together. That said -- there is one qualification on a positive note: with the rise of ASIC mining and the total hashing power of the network and increase in difficulty, there is also a countervailing trend that may be a source of slight optimism: if everyone is moving to ASIC, then the FPGA and GPU rigs are bowing out, and switching to other coins -- that could mean a drop of about 100 TH/s of the network, counteracting the 400-600 Th/s increase that ASIC will bring about come fall. One can hope. I was thinking the same thing. At the default difficulty, my bitcoins were costing above $100/BTC to mine, but I downloaded the difficulty adjustment patch, all better now. 8) What is the "difficulty adjustment patch" ? I think he meant it as a joke ;) Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: dominicus on July 13, 2013, 06:07:56 AM Depressing stats. I ordered a KNC yesterday with the option to pick it up in Stockholm (I live in London) -- which, hopefully hopefully, can be done when I'm in town for an international security conference in late September. It's looking a lot like ASIC mining is a game that everyone is losing together. That said -- there is one qualification on a positive note: with the rise of ASIC mining and the total hashing power of the network and increase in difficulty, there is also a countervailing trend that may be a source of slight optimism: if everyone is moving to ASIC, then the FPGA and GPU rigs are bowing out, and switching to other coins -- that could mean a drop of about 100 TH/s of the network, counteracting the 400-600 Th/s increase that ASIC will bring about come fall. One can hope. I was thinking the same thing. At the default difficulty, my bitcoins were costing above $100/BTC to mine, but I downloaded the difficulty adjustment patch, all better now. 8) What is the "difficulty adjustment patch" ? I think he meant it as a joke ;) I confirm, meant as a joke. Only way to less difficulty is to switch to alternate fauxcoins. Sorry bout that. Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: trdiablo on July 16, 2013, 09:58:39 AM KNCminer is also planning to release a "multi-currency" miner this year, meaning you will be able to program it and mine Litecoins and other new scrypt coins with it.
That will be more interesting to me, as I can now first wait and see if the Bitcoin miner orders come through and the company is trustworthy. If so, I will for sure order their Scrypt miner. Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: Rawted on July 19, 2013, 02:18:50 AM https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-24
Quote At KnCMiner we are aware of the service we are providing to our customers. We are also aware that we need our customers to have a return on their devices in order to purchase form us again. With the scale of the supply chains, agreements and factories we have access to, we need to be cautious we don’t ship too many devices and therefore reduce the return to our customers. So with that in mind our plan is to do as follows: We will ship no devices in December 2013, January 2014 or February 2014. Meaning that once we have taken the difficulty up at the end of November we will not release any more hashing power for 3 months. We will then release our new generation of devices, which will begin shipping in March 2014. These devices will also have a much higher GH/$ rating than any of our current offerings. We would like to state that If any of our competitors continues to add large amounts of hashing power to the network during December, January or February. We will continue to release our devices as competitively priced as we can to protect our customers share of the network. Thanks KnCMiner Team Fishy situation. This has the buildings of a complete vaporware scam. Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: tacotime on July 19, 2013, 04:25:07 AM As I said before, going right to 28 nm is one hell of a gamble for them. One should recall BFL wanted to use a 65 nm process and couldn't even get it off the ground in a year, while ASICMINER on 130 nm and Avalon on 110 nm had a much shorter overall development process.
Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: joae1975 on July 19, 2013, 06:45:52 AM Did you guys read the latest KNC news letter?
https://www.kncminer.com/news Apparently they're not going to ship anything from Dec-Feb...as long as there's no competition. Interesting how this is going to play out. Thoughts? Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: pyra-proxy on July 23, 2013, 02:40:07 AM As I said before, going right to 28 nm is one hell of a gamble for them. One should recall BFL wanted to use a 65 nm process and couldn't even get it off the ground in a year, while ASICMINER on 130 nm and Avalon on 110 nm had a much shorter overall development process. I'm rooting for them because its a primary factor in how long a life these miners will have. Avalon lifespan will be short but they won the profitability game by being first to market, the next game is performance per watt per btc and 3 brands seem to be aiming high for that knc, bitfury and ?avp? In hindsight being an early adopter with bfl fpga singles ended up hurting my pocket book..... :'( Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: trdiablo on August 29, 2013, 10:02:23 PM you all assume to break even with the miner based on the current BTC price.
But with the BTC difficulty sky rocketing the value of BTC will also (again) skyrocket, so you can make a big profit with these ASICs. Who knows what the value of BTC will be in 1 or 2 years from now? 200$ ? 1000$ ? 2000$ ? Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: frankenmint on August 29, 2013, 11:43:28 PM you all assume to break even with the miner based on the current BTC price. But with the BTC difficulty sky rocketing the value of BTC will also (again) skyrocket, so you can make a big profit with these ASICs. Who knows what the value of BTC will be in 1 or 2 years from now? 200$ ? 1000$ ? 2000$ ? ermmm no to the 1000+ prices...too many will dump their coins around 500 bucks and the greed alone will make a new bubble crash it could happen but it would be a long term upward spiral trend filled with bubbles. (but hey...maybe I'm just being a FUD spreader that doesn't want people to buy into mining to postpone the diff. spikes right?) Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: brishtiteveja on January 11, 2014, 05:01:38 PM Bitcoin Network pretty much followed the 25% average difficulty increase table. In fact more than that.
Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: RoadStress on January 11, 2014, 05:37:37 PM Just 2 quotes:
Quote KNCMiner Jupiter(350GH/s) and Quote 20-Dec 15.00% 193,126,788 1,382,455,395,327,760 0.036456872 0.018228436 On 21 Dec the difficulty was Quote Dec 21 2013 1,180,923,195 30.01% 8,453,378 GH/s Title: Re: Wanna buy KNCMiner? Prediction Data -> Time vs Hash Rate vs Difficulty Data set Post by: izaa12 on January 12, 2014, 02:08:55 AM https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-24 Quote At KnCMiner we are aware of the service we are providing to our customers. We are also aware that we need our customers to have a return on their devices in order to purchase form us again. With the scale of the supply chains, agreements and factories we have access to, we need to be cautious we don’t ship too many devices and therefore reduce the return to our customers. So with that in mind our plan is to do as follows: We will ship no devices in December 2013, January 2014 or February 2014. Meaning that once we have taken the difficulty up at the end of November we will not release any more hashing power for 3 months. We will then release our new generation of devices, which will begin shipping in March 2014. These devices will also have a much higher GH/$ rating than any of our current offerings. We would like to state that If any of our competitors continues to add large amounts of hashing power to the network during December, January or February. We will continue to release our devices as competitively priced as we can to protect our customers share of the network. Thanks KnCMiner Team Fishy situation. This has the buildings of a complete vaporware scam. Very damn fishy, if you ask me. I've talked to Knc a few times about issues (there weren't issues in actuality) i had been having with my Saturn and they were completely dismissive... makes me not wnat to deal with them at all. |