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Title: Your government is talking to you... are you listening? Post by: Bitware on June 13, 2013, 08:26:21 PM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yr2WZ1s1vY
It's for your own good... nobody can be trusted... especially you. The black box guy had me cheering. Title: Re: Your government is talking to you... are you listening? Post by: molecular on June 13, 2013, 08:32:36 PM Quote from: Jefferson? Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Title: Re: Your government is talking to you... are you listening? Post by: mprep on June 14, 2013, 04:39:22 PM freedom > security I think it should be freedom = security. I live in a country which has received independence from USSR in 1990. After that, people were demanding complete freedom. That freedom was mostly used by criminals, mafias and other not-so-good people to silence others. Thank god that time is over now.Title: Re: Your government is talking to you... are you listening? Post by: crypto-finance on June 18, 2013, 05:21:56 AM freedom > security I think it should be freedom = security. I live in a country which has received independence from USSR in 1990. After that, people were demanding complete freedom. That freedom was mostly used by criminals, mafias and other not-so-good people to silence others. Thank god that time is over now.Estonia? Title: Re: Your government is talking to you... are you listening? Post by: malevolent on June 18, 2013, 02:07:21 PM Quote from: Jefferson? Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. That's Benjamin Franklin ;) freedom > security I think it should be freedom = security. I live in a country which has received independence from USSR in 1990. After that, people were demanding complete freedom. That freedom was mostly used by criminals, mafias and other not-so-good people to silence others. Thank god that time is over now.I live in a country which became independent from USSR in 1989 and I know what you are talking about but you are looking at it from a wrong perspective. There was more freedom but too many people (many with ties to the former communist system) had too much power amplified by the backing of the state. Add corruption, cronyism, nepotism and ambiguous laws to that and you get lots of theoretical freedom but also harsh, insecure reality. One could set up a big successful import-export business because there was demand for it and become a billionair but someone else could try a similar endeavour, fail and end up in prison because his competitor was friends with a prosecutor or with one of the many intelligence agencies. Not sure about your country but at least that is how it was in mine. |