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Bitcoin => Hardware wallets => Topic started by: Capitalism Prevails on June 14, 2013, 12:02:30 AM



Title: When will Trezor be available for purchase?
Post by: Capitalism Prevails on June 14, 2013, 12:02:30 AM
There's a hardware wallet called BitSafe which is available for purchase but its not as proffesionally constructed as Trezor will be, right?


Title: Re: When will Trezor be available for purchase?
Post by: bitpop on June 14, 2013, 03:58:51 PM
http://www.bitcointrezor.com/news/trezor-timeline


Title: Re: When will Trezor be available for purchase?
Post by: raze on June 15, 2013, 10:07:22 AM
I hope the Trezor does wonders for Bitcoin, it definitely has the potential to.

Unfortunately, dat pre-order price.


Title: Re: When will Trezor be available for purchase?
Post by: bitpop on June 15, 2013, 11:19:00 AM
Yeah it's expensive


Title: Re: When will Trezor be available for purchase?
Post by: tinus42 on June 15, 2013, 11:45:21 AM
There's a hardware wallet called BitSafe which is available for purchase but its not as proffesionally constructed as Trezor will be, right?

That and you will have to wait two weeksTM to get it.  ;D


Title: Re: When will Trezor be available for purchase?
Post by: bitpop on June 15, 2013, 12:01:20 PM
And bfl just made one too


Title: Re: When will Trezor be available for purchase?
Post by: bezzeb on June 15, 2013, 12:06:25 PM
There's a hardware wallet called BitSafe which is available for purchase but its not as proffesionally constructed as Trezor will be, right?
If you click the preorder link you'll see the following dates:

Metalic version:  Shipping October 2013
Plastic verison:  Shipping November 2013

As with any new products, delays are possible, but they seem to be better managed than "many" other projects out there, and the scope of the project is less ambitious.  Not to belittle them - the Trezor represents some excellent engineering!  But i think it's a more attainable project than many of the other frustrating bitcoin hardware projects out there.  ;-)


Title: Re: When will Trezor be available for purchase?
Post by: ninjaboon on June 16, 2013, 06:22:22 AM
they don't ship to Malaysia yet... :-[


Title: Re: When will Trezor be available for purchase?
Post by: bitpop on June 16, 2013, 09:43:01 AM
I'll ship to you pm me

they don't ship to Malaysia yet... :-[


Title: Re: When will Trezor be available for purchase?
Post by: greyhawk on June 16, 2013, 11:32:55 AM
Idgi. There's just a send and a cancel button.

What prevents me from punching you in the nose and then stealing ALL of your coins?



Title: Re: When will Trezor be available for purchase?
Post by: greyhawk on June 16, 2013, 11:44:11 AM
Idgi. There's just a send and a cancel button.

What prevents me from punching you in the nose and then stealing ALL of your coins?



Should be password protected for sure.

They should put a fingerprint scanner in there. USB stick sized fingerprint readers are like 40 bucks in retail, so the parts should be available for a dollar or two. Throw out the buttons. Put the scanner there instead.


Title: Re: When will Trezor be available for purchase?
Post by: Blazr on June 16, 2013, 04:25:31 PM
They should put a fingerprint scanner in there. USB stick sized fingerprint readers are like 40 bucks in retail, so the parts should be available for a dollar or two. Throw out the buttons. Put the scanner there instead.

I read a story about a guy who had his car hijacked from him at gunpoint. It was a BMW and had a fingerprint scanner for ignition, when the thieves realized this, they cut the guys finger off.

Fingerprint scanner...not the best idea. I think a pin-code, with a secondary pin-code that only gives access to a small amount of BTC in case you are forced to give up the PIN by your wife.


Title: Re: When will Trezor be available for purchase?
Post by: dudeofthestick on June 16, 2013, 04:37:08 PM
This is the kind of the project the community has to support. As any 1.0 version of any product there is a lot of room for improvements, but I think this kind of devices go in the right direction.

The bitcoin economy must be driven by products and services with added value. Otherwise it will be driven only by greed, and it will die.


Title: Re: When will Trezor be available for purchase?
Post by: morningtime on June 16, 2013, 09:55:50 PM
I ordered one to support them. We all should.

A hardware "key" to unlock your crypto-money is a smart idea! This sounds like a good security solution for Bitcoin and crypto-currencies in general. It's safer than most PIN/TAN webbanking systems. Not even the SpyEye trojan horse can steal your Bitcoin with trezor!


Title: Re: When will Trezor be available for purchase?
Post by: morningtime on June 16, 2013, 09:58:38 PM
Idgi. There's just a send and a cancel button.

What prevents me from punching you in the nose and then stealing ALL of your coins?



You also need to break into my house to steal my computer. Trezor, for that matter, adds physical barriers to stealing my Bitcoin. As you say, you have to

- break my nose
- break into my house
- steal my computer

This physical theft is more than enough for the police to arrest you, like a normal burglary.



Title: Re: When will Trezor be available for purchase?
Post by: K1773R on June 16, 2013, 09:59:18 PM
I hope the Trezor does wonders for Bitcoin, it definitely has the potential to.

Unfortunately, dat pre-order price.
1BTC is cheap for what u get...


Title: Re: When will Trezor be available for purchase?
Post by: morningtime on June 16, 2013, 10:01:10 PM
Also, I hope Trezor 2.0 will have remote self-destruct option. For example, if someone steals my trezor, I can enable self-destruct from another computer to disable it. (Of course you need to have a trezor copy somewhere in a safety deposit box.)


Title: Re: When will Trezor be available for purchase?
Post by: greyhawk on June 17, 2013, 12:24:53 AM
Idgi. There's just a send and a cancel button.

What prevents me from punching you in the nose and then stealing ALL of your coins?



You also need to break into my house to steal my computer. Trezor, for that matter, adds physical barriers to stealing my Bitcoin. As you say, you have to

- break my nose
- break into my house
- steal my computer

This physical theft is more than enough for the police to arrest you, like a normal burglary.



So it's bound to a specific device? I understood it as a portable wallet you can just plug into whatever and authorize a payment.

I wish the website had SOME kind of information on how this is supposed to work instead of just a list of people going "That cool thing is a pretty cool thing."


Title: Re: When will Trezor be available for purchase?
Post by: bitpop on June 17, 2013, 12:28:00 AM
This is how it works. You install Armory, armory has your addresses but no private keys. You can't send without a key. When you want to send, plug trezor in and it will sign a transaction using your key to send without sharing the key. It is not tied to a computer.


Title: Re: When will Trezor be available for purchase?
Post by: greyhawk on June 17, 2013, 12:41:21 AM
Thanks for the clarification.


Title: Re: When will Trezor be available for purchase?
Post by: bitpop on June 17, 2013, 12:46:07 AM
Basically it's a secure offline mode to store keys. The internet and Trojans on your computer can't get to it.


Title: Re: When will Trezor be available for purchase?
Post by: ElectricMucus on June 17, 2013, 12:49:53 AM
So the private keys will reside in the SOCs flash memory?

What about, at this price include a more reliable non-volatile memory, like mram?