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Another way of looking a things

Amazon sells us depreciating crapplastic

Microsoft sell every one a word processor and and os to connect it to a printer and run the printer

Apple sells us something nice to listen to out music on and hold to look at the internet on.

Satoshi gives us an entire financial system, government in code, records repository, financial sovereignty, powers of the state.

Take a step back and consider the orders of magnitude of the value proposition as against what most are familiar with.

It's a good part of the combined sum of sovereign wealth, which makes the whole .com boom look like a rounding error.

Ayy exactly, People need to understand that Blockchian is something bigger than Bitcoin, Satoshi has brought forward a technology which can have an impact on us as a specie. I hope more people realise this, Bitcoin is not the end game, Blockchain adoption should be.

Satoshi has offer us a change of life or lifestyle he set up a chance for each and everyone of us to be a millionaire and enjoy a life that the government can not control, but yes this is something that banks and government would not want because they don't have control over it, but all of that company and products that you have talk about Amazon, Microsoft, and Apple are selling us their goods, services to make life easier so they can profit from us, but Satoshi had given us a chance to profit for our self that is the biggest difference that I see from all that company and Satoshi did for us,

Only if there is mass adoption and use of bitcoin as a financial system etc etc.

If it's just used for speculative trading in a pozi fashion, it's literally useless.

BTC does not need mass adoption...for I would estimate to meet 70% of the value proposition as the masses of transnactions though a long tail are small.

The bulk of the value is in derivatives, currency, hedges, sovereign wealth, registers, operation of govt.

A lot of this value that was held by the few can now be carved out and spread more widely as well as increased through blockchain and BTC tech.

It's not a ponzi, becuase it does not promise any return to any one it only promises a necessary (and if you have sufficient fees) access to block space, by which you can show market signal to the world, and increment some one elses ledger. I have a thread on why it's not).

Good points.

Your right, Profit is not bad as those that can make profit  are utilizing services and usually wisely reinvest those profits.

Government and banks have avoided competition to the extent that they lack discipline, and we all suffer....until now.

My thoughts about this all of them have contribute something to make our lives easier and meaningful Amazon a online shop that you can sure buy any goods on delivery, Microsoft was on the hardware and software base things that we are using as a computer, and apple a company that provide telecommunication, and a hand held device that have different use from music, video, and hand held games, all of this was to make our life worth while and easy while they are profiting from us, but Satoshi did was to provide us with a technology that can make our life change for the better and introduce us with bitcoin.

That's an overly simplistic way to look at the value Amazon, Microsoft and Apple have brought to our daily lives.

Yet I agree with you. Bitcoin is the first technological innovation that has genuinely excited me in years. It's a bizarre little system and kinda fucked up from a mainstream point of view, but that's exactly why it is so unexpectedly gamechanging. It solved a problem that most people weren't even aware of exists. In a way that most people didn't expect to work. Yet here we are.

Seeing how people got hyped by the next gen iPhone while utterly ignoring crypto-currencies I always got reminded of the apocryphal Ford quote: "If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses."

Bitcoin has not been created to make you or anyone millionaire. Satoshi didn't create it to allow people to make a huge amount of profit. Bitcoin is not an investment, it's a currency and people should stop to talk about Bitcoin as an investment. Because people jumping on bitcoin see it wrongly as an investment while it's not.
If Bitcoin was created to make people millionaire then everyone would have bought some bitcoins already.

When we say blockchain, they only think bitcoin and Money. The technology is much more bigger than this and it can change the fortune of the entire world obviously. People should understand this fundamental.

Satoshi offered us a real economical freedom. Without Federal Bank. Kennedy was the only one fights against fed but he was killed.
Now they are fighthing against an anonym community lol. They have nothing to do.

Well satoshi didn't know actually what will happen in bitcoin when he was created it..
And i think their majority why satoshi make bitcoin its because for payment processor but year past we seen that the price of bitcoin is getting more expensive due to demand and supply more impressions and more people are seeing the potencial of bitcoin and people are investing more in bitcoin that is why we are seen the price was increased high..
I was remember before 2015 the price of bitcoin was honestly cheap and bitcoin is hard to earn.. you can earn but you can get only few..
Only miners can getting more benefits if they already mine bitcoins before that they can save for a long time and  use for investment..
So both purposes are investment and payment processor ..
It is just like other currency like usd if you are living in other country your currency are really cheap  expect that if you invest in usd and exchange it in the future you can getting benefits of the price increase of usd.. just like what happen here in my country and there are lots investors here are investing in usd instead because the exchange rate is getting more high..

So in bitcoin they are same that they are investing to get the value high and getting the benefits of it.. the problem the price is not slow the price is increase too much unlike a normal currency..

You're looking at it from a bit of a skewed perspective if I'm being honest.
Apple and Microsoft may sell deteriorating products but both changed the computing industry in as much that Satoshi did the financial systems.
Of course the scale of the two isn't comparable but then again you're not comparing apples to apples (pun intended) but rather apples to oranges. 

Of course. Those who are in a certain position, and don't follow the strict rules of those behind the scenes (who really run everything), are destined to be taken out -- that's how this rotten system thrives. If Bitcoin wasn't an option for us, we likely would remain a slave of this system for many more decades. How often are you being offered something that allows you to outrule the entire banking and governmental system? People who are selling everything all at once at current levels don't understand what they are doing....

Now satoshi's invention comes inside the Apple and Microsoft. They have already added cart API in their site buy a software or product key in Microsoft. Apple also done the same to buy a products with the bitcoin.
Soon bitcoin will be taken the place of paypal and International money exchanges available in all over the world.
If the salary has been provided with bitcoin. I would really like to get in bitcoin, does not worry about the fluctuations.

Those who actually care about the technical aspects of Bitcoin, and understand what it is that makes Bitcoin stand out, add value to it, but that's not the case when it comes to the majority of with greed filled empty headed chickens here. For them Bitcoin is nothing more than a tool that allows them to invest in, and book a nifty profit potentially. Bitcoin is the financial freedom people have been waiting for so long, but they just need to realize it themselves. Believe me, when the general public starts converting even a few percent of its wealth into Bitcoin, governments will more than ever feel that they are in a losing position. It's time to cut through this on debt based system, once and for all.

I have been looking at the way bitcoin core get this acceptability and how it's value keep on increasing without much effort to promote it by the developers and the owner. After going through op comment I come into a conclusions that bitcoin is one of the big things that happened to this world after the advert of internet. I think we are in the great technology time and when we have come to understand this decentralized system in full, we may be out of inflation and hit prosperity.

Bitcoin is a digital currency that can be used in everyday life. you can see that the opportunity of Bitcoin Used by many big e-commerce in the world is certainly very open. I've been using Bitcoin in various financial transactions to buy things online. Now we just wait for the regulation and support from the government for the realization of a much better Bitcoin. Regulations made by the government will determine the future of Bitcoin. If it supports Bitcoin then I am sure that in the future all components / sectors related to finance will be connected to blockchain network (bitcoin).

Yeah don't worry. People are catching on. Look at that price just freaking skyrocketing. We are going mainstream and people are investing huge amounts of money into bitcoin at this point. It's a great time to feel like you're an early investor and not a newbie!!!

I am not against with any of the aforementioned companies, since I am also using their products,  the companies also contributed greatly to us all, since it made our lives easier compared in the past, wherein you need to do things manually and physically. The tech companies had provided us with on how we can compute much faster, and do things easier, we should not ignore the fact that if it wasn't for them, we could not connect through the internet and use our online wallets, however the rise of Bitcoin and the birth of block chain technology, had given us more opportunity, since bitcoin's value is getting higher and we now have new ways of transaction. All of the aforementioned companies had given great contribution to the world, and as for me, one of the greatest is also the block chain that produced Bitcoin, that we are enjoying now.

Every company has a reservated spot in the whole new world order, and there is nothing new with that. Those bussiness has large history on the world, and they have been in there forever.
Maybe there are better smartphones than the ones from Apple, but people is still buying them, no matter how expensive they are (like a thousand dollars for the iPhone X) but the people will still keep buying them.
The same applies with fiat money & bitcoin, people will always use fiat because it is normal to use them.. And those who withdraw their bitcoins will always change that money to fiat.