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Title: Segwit2x fork, B2X Price
Post by: ridertiger on November 02, 2017, 07:39:41 AM
So, what do you think the price of the new segwit2 coins will be? I asked the same question with the bitcoin gold and I had very satisfying and accurate answers in this forum.
I know we do not know the future and such, but it seems whatever we say here affects the potential buyers as well.
I am trying to decide whether I should move my coins to an exchange that supports Segwit2x fork and gives me the B2X coins or whatever they are called.
Kraken won't give me any new coins, I am pretty sure.
I am pretty sure BTC will move down after 8K and I may short my bitcoins before the fork to make some money, or wait for the fork to get the new coins.


Title: Re: Segwit2x fork, B2X Price
Post by: haroldtee on November 02, 2017, 10:07:39 AM
Future trade right now according to coinmarketcap is $1179 https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/segwit2x/ ... so may be with some really huge dumps after the fork, it should end up trading at $200.  ;D Only time will tell anyway and I do not think it would have any relevance at the end as no one really wants to bother about centralised coin, but like i said, we can only just assume and leave time to tell what ends up becoming of the coin.


Title: Re: Segwit2x fork, B2X Price
Post by: Endikadija on November 02, 2017, 10:19:16 AM
So, what do you think the price of the new segwit2 coins will be? I asked the same question with the bitcoin gold and I had very satisfying and accurate answers in this forum.
I know we do not know the future and such, but it seems whatever we say here affects the potential buyers as well.
I am trying to decide whether I should move my coins to an exchange that supports Segwit2x fork and gives me the B2X coins or whatever they are called.
Kraken won't give me any new coins, I am pretty sure.
I am pretty sure BTC will move down after 8K and I may short my bitcoins before the fork to make some money, or wait for the fork to get the new coins.
Don't know about the truth but you can try to see the latest news about that, I thought that the price of the b2x will below the bitcoin gold. but the b2x coin seems to be a sumour rather than a real thing in the future.


Title: Re: Segwit2x fork, B2X Price
Post by: ninobtcx on November 02, 2017, 11:29:02 AM
Segwit2x is not needed. It is completely a different (and better) thing than the previous hard forks but I still think Bitcoin will remain the KING of cryptocurrencies as once again we are going to see something which is better in practical terms (twice block size) but hasn't been around for long enough and will not be adopted as the new standard. If the price remains around the 1000$ as coinmarketcap predicts I am going to sell all my segwit2x as soon as I get them.


Title: Re: Segwit2x fork, B2X Price
Post by: ridertiger on November 03, 2017, 05:55:33 AM
So the coming out price will be around 1200 USD then. What are the exchanges that gives you the coin?
I think it go down to around 500 USD once folks sell it, what you think?


Title: Re: Segwit2x fork, B2X Price
Post by: barota on November 05, 2017, 12:12:35 PM
SegWit2x [Futures] Markets  traded on hitbtc  since 22 october , volume 24 hours 400 000$ ----- 500 000 $

the current price over 1000 usd . The price will rise to 3000 usd

when all site exchange will start tradin SegWit2x It would be better than bcc or btg in price and volume for

sure


Title: Re: Segwit2x fork, B2X Price
Post by: alani123 on November 05, 2017, 05:32:15 PM
I think it would be impossible to speculate on the price. It's even hard to see what is going to happen with the 2 x fork and if it could be brought to life even. There seems to be no code for it and in spite of the launch approaching preparations are not improving.


Title: Re: Segwit2x fork, B2X Price
Post by: deepblue01 on November 05, 2017, 07:58:31 PM
So, what do you think the price of the new segwit2 coins will be? I asked the same question with the bitcoin gold and I had very satisfying and accurate answers in this forum.
I know we do not know the future and such, but it seems whatever we say here affects the potential buyers as well.
I am trying to decide whether I should move my coins to an exchange that supports Segwit2x fork and gives me the B2X coins or whatever they are called.
Kraken won't give me any new coins, I am pretty sure.
I am pretty sure BTC will move down after 8K and I may short my bitcoins before the fork to make some money, or wait for the fork to get the new coins.
Don't know about the truth but you can try to see the latest news about that, I thought that the price of the b2x will below the bitcoin gold. but the b2x coin seems to be a sumour rather than a real thing in the future.

some news said that bitcoin gold has alot resistance including the original bitcoin developer.
they said that they will blacklist anyexchange who support bitcoin gold. i dont know its true or not
but b2x i dont know alot about this one. i see on coinmarketcap b2x price is really high. reaching 2k $ each coin is amazing


Title: Re: Segwit2x fork, B2X Price
Post by: Profilerx on November 05, 2017, 08:42:02 PM
So the coming out price will be around 1200 USD then. What are the exchanges that gives you the coin?
I think it go down to around 500 USD once folks sell it, what you think?

For now you can trade on hitbtc. But be prepared for an announcement days before the fork for other Exchanges.


Title: Re: Segwit2x fork, B2X Price
Post by: digaran on November 05, 2017, 09:08:08 PM
So, what do you think the price of the new segwit2 coins will be? I asked the same question with the bitcoin gold and I had very satisfying and accurate answers in this forum.
I know we do not know the future and such, but it seems whatever we say here affects the potential buyers as well.
I am trying to decide whether I should move my coins to an exchange that supports Segwit2x fork and gives me the B2X coins or whatever they are called.
Kraken won't give me any new coins, I am pretty sure.
I am pretty sure BTC will move down after 8K and I may short my bitcoins before the fork to make some money, or wait for the fork to get the new coins.
Don't know about the truth but you can try to see the latest news about that, I thought that the price of the b2x will below the bitcoin gold. but the b2x coin seems to be a sumour rather than a real thing in the future.

some news said that bitcoin gold has alot resistance including the original bitcoin developer.
they said that they will blacklist anyexchange who support bitcoin gold. i dont know its true or not
but b2x i dont know alot about this one. i see on coinmarketcap b2x price is really high. reaching 2k $ each coin is amazing
That is because it has some merits compared to Bitcoin cash and gold, they have changed a lot of things in their codes, B2X has a different coding than Segwit BTC. seems like the B2X price will be much higher than what you think, otherwise this $7500 would be for nothing.


Title: Re: Segwit2x fork, B2X Price
Post by: joinfree on November 05, 2017, 09:10:58 PM
I am still wondering about what is going to happen when segwitx2 is released, just think about it, if it is more than two thousand dollars right now, when those who are holding it dump them, the price of bitcoin will drop by a lot of money. But if they use that money to keep buying more bitcoins, then the price will touch more than eight thousand dollars of course, this is very incredible, i can not even think about it because i dont know what to think.



Title: Re: Segwit2x fork, B2X Price
Post by: ridertiger on November 06, 2017, 08:07:24 AM
Hmmm, it looks like people's estimates increased from 1000 USD to 2000 USD. I am not sure if I want to sell those coins as soon as I get them anymore.
I am glad CEX.IO anc Coinbase will honor Segwit2x balances as well as enable trading and will list the new chain as B2X.
Dumbass Kraken left the announcement to the last second about bitcoin gold and at the last moment they said they will not support it.


Title: Re: Segwit2x fork, B2X Price
Post by: coinplus on November 06, 2017, 09:14:13 AM
I foresee B2X trading at may be $250 at the end and may be later on get pumped a little but I am not really expecting anything much from this coin. I am not in support of the coin and will never be.
This fork is an attack on decentralization and I would rather just leave my funds in my bank account than end up giving it to some miners and NYA.


Title: Re: Segwit2x fork, B2X Price
Post by: EMS-007 on November 07, 2017, 01:53:47 PM
It seems that B2x has a better price value than the previous fork! What's bothering my mind is what would be the negative side if B2x doesn't have replay protection at all? ???


Title: Re: Segwit2x fork, B2X Price
Post by: Seansky on November 07, 2017, 02:16:12 PM
It seems that B2x has a better price value than the previous fork! What's bothering my mind is what would be the negative side if B2x doesn't have replay protection at all? ???
Without replay protection, new transactions will be equally valid on both chains as well. This means that these transactions can be copied or “replayed,” from one chain to the other, in other words, for them to happen on both which is commonly referred as replay attack. If you send B2X to someone, you might accidentally send him BTC as well and vice versa because they can do a replay attack with the help of a miner in both chains.


Title: Re: Segwit2x fork, B2X Price
Post by: ridertiger on November 08, 2017, 07:57:11 AM
So, what would be the dumbass reason the developers would not have replay protection, other than being a dumbass?

It seems that B2x has a better price value than the previous fork! What's bothering my mind is what would be the negative side if B2x doesn't have replay protection at all? ???
Without replay protection, new transactions will be equally valid on both chains as well. This means that these transactions can be copied or “replayed,” from one chain to the other, in other words, for them to happen on both which is commonly referred as replay attack. If you send B2X to someone, you might accidentally send him BTC as well and vice versa because they can do a replay attack with the help of a miner in both chains.


Title: Re: Segwit2x fork, B2X Price
Post by: cryptimus prime on November 08, 2017, 08:07:16 AM
BTC, B2X, BTC Gold, BTC Cash.  ???
I like other cryptocurrencies more, they dont fork that much.  ;D


Title: Re: Segwit2x fork, B2X Price
Post by: mentalpanda on November 08, 2017, 08:09:18 AM
"
It seems that B2x has a better price value than the previous fork! What's bothering my mind is what would be the negative side if B2x doesn't have replay protection at all? ???
Without replay protection, new transactions will be equally valid on both chains as well. This means that these transactions can be copied or “replayed,” from one chain to the other, in other words, for them to happen on both which is commonly referred as replay attack. If you send B2X to someone, you might accidentally send him BTC as well and vice versa because they can do a replay attack with the help of a miner in both chains.

Nicely put.

This topic subject tells a lot about how much people actually know segwit2x and its not having reply protection. It is only a week left but i still see a lot of people buying more Bitcoin with the belief that they will have equivalent amount of new coin. This is of course not the case.

Back to the subject, how can you be sure that B2X will actually be adopted as ""real bitcoin""? I am genuinely interested in any logical answer. "




Title: Re: Segwit2x fork, B2X Price
Post by: hase0278 on November 08, 2017, 08:29:59 AM
Future trade right now according to coinmarketcap is $1179 https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/segwit2x/ ... so may be with some really huge dumps after the fork, it should end up trading at $200.  ;D Only time will tell anyway and I do not think it would have any relevance at the end as no one really wants to bother about centralised coin, but like i said, we can only just assume and leave time to tell what ends up becoming of the coin.
Probably people will be careful in dumping it because of lack of replay protection so I guess it should end up trading at 500$ or more depending on what issues will arise. The only thing that is certain for now is that bitcoin would drop as people dump their B2X for fiat. That is certain to happen because selling btc is the same as selling b2x and vice versa if replay protection won't be implemented. Transactions made on one chain could be valid on both chains and I hope little to less people.will try to perform a replay attack.


Title: Re: Segwit2x fork, B2X Price
Post by: criptolover12 on November 08, 2017, 08:52:20 AM
So, what would be the dumbass reason the developers would not have replay protection, other than being a dumbass?

It seems that B2x has a better price value than the previous fork! What's bothering my mind is what would be the negative side if B2x doesn't have replay protection at all? ???
Without replay protection, new transactions will be equally valid on both chains as well. This means that these transactions can be copied or “replayed,” from one chain to the other, in other words, for them to happen on both which is commonly referred as replay attack. If you send B2X to someone, you might accidentally send him BTC as well and vice versa because they can do a replay attack with the help of a miner in both chains.

may I ask what is replay protection?


Title: Re: Segwit2x fork, B2X Price
Post by: ridertiger on November 08, 2017, 10:20:36 AM
So, what would be the dumbass reason the developers would not have replay protection, other than being a dumbass?

It seems that B2x has a better price value than the previous fork! What's bothering my mind is what would be the negative side if B2x doesn't have replay protection at all? ???
Without replay protection, new transactions will be equally valid on both chains as well. This means that these transactions can be copied or “replayed,” from one chain to the other, in other words, for them to happen on both which is commonly referred as replay attack. If you send B2X to someone, you might accidentally send him BTC as well and vice versa because they can do a replay attack with the help of a miner in both chains.

may I ask what is replay protection?
Yes, you may ask. to Google.


Title: Re: Segwit2x fork, B2X Price
Post by: shafi alam on November 08, 2017, 12:59:00 PM
Ok i  understand what you talking about.
if you wants to get b2x coin or whatever it called, what you need to do?
few day ago bitcoin gold was released i got some btg coin because of i had some btc in my hitbtc exchange.  they give equal coin.  so i think you can do this.


Title: Re: Segwit2x fork, B2X Price
Post by: krypt0n1 on November 08, 2017, 01:21:01 PM
Yes, many people will likely try to sell off their Segwit2x coins and drive the price down from where we see the current futures price. I don't think it will go that low so quickly though. Since there is no replay protection, I can see many people holding on to theirs out of fear of losing their bitcoin and will wait for the dust to settle before selling.


Title: Re: Segwit2x fork, B2X Price
Post by: Nancimy on November 08, 2017, 02:49:41 PM
Yes, many people will likely try to sell off their Segwit2x coins and drive the price down from where we see the current futures price. I don't think it will go that low so quickly though. Since there is no replay protection, I can see many people holding on to theirs out of fear of losing their bitcoin and will wait for the dust to settle before selling.

The initial low price of the 2x coin could be a good time to accumulate.


Title: Re: Segwit2x fork, B2X Price
Post by: fia_naila on November 08, 2017, 03:18:59 PM
In my opinion the b2x price is range between $1000-$2000 at first launch. It will goes down little bit after listing on exchange because of some weak hand or people want easy and free money. Its just like bitcoincash but will be stronger maybe.


Title: Re: Segwit2x fork, B2X Price
Post by: krypt0n1 on November 08, 2017, 08:19:02 PM
I can only imagine how frustrated anyone is who actually purchased futures of the Segwit2x coins! No refunds on this cancelled fork. :D


Title: Re: Segwit2x fork, B2X Price
Post by: ridertiger on November 09, 2017, 01:23:33 PM
I can only imagine how frustrated anyone is who actually purchased futures of the Segwit2x coins! No refunds on this cancelled fork. :D
I know, right. A lot of people bet that this thing would come through as all of the forks did up to this point.