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Title: Best USB miner
Post by: ilpirata79 on June 16, 2013, 10:48:30 AM
Hi everyone,

can you suggest me the best USB ASIC miner?

I am considering the ASICMiner Block Erupter USB which costs approximately 2BTC and delivers 333Mh/s.

Are there any better?

Thanks,
ilpirata79


Title: Re: Best USB miner
Post by: lucazane on June 16, 2013, 10:52:53 AM
What the fuck is  a "USB Avalon Erupter"


Title: Re: Best USB miner
Post by: ilpirata79 on June 16, 2013, 10:58:19 AM
What the fuck is  a "USB Avalon Erupter"
Calm down. I fixed it.


Title: Re: Best USB miner
Post by: L3on on June 16, 2013, 11:01:18 AM
Hi everyone,

can you suggest me the best USB ASIC miner?

I am considering the ASICMiner Block Erupter USB which costs approximately 2BTC and delivers 333Mh/s.

Are there any better?

Thanks,
ilpirata79

The USB Block Erupter is the only USB miner currently available for purchase that you can get in your hands in a few days.

All others are pre-purchase or group batch orders that aren't shipping for a few months.

Also, with the projected difficulty increase it may take as long as a year to get your ROI (return on investment) from a USB Block Erupter, or it may never pay itself back.

Hope that helps.


Title: Re: Best USB miner
Post by: Tigggger on June 16, 2013, 11:17:36 AM
The ASICMiner USB will never make back the investment let alone give you any profit

Wait until there are plenty of avalon chips out there and see what the price of the K1 boards are going to be.


Title: Re: Best USB miner
Post by: ct1aic on June 16, 2013, 11:18:40 AM
What the f**k is  a "USB Avalon Erupter"

Did you ever tried Google Search, before using bad language?

That's what "USB Avalon Erupter" is: http://mineasics.com/the-block-erupter-usb-series/ (http://mineasics.com/the-block-erupter-usb-series/)


Title: Re: Best USB miner
Post by: rammy2k2 on June 16, 2013, 11:38:38 AM
Hi everyone,

can you suggest me the best USB ASIC miner?

I am considering the ASICMiner Block Erupter USB which costs approximately 2BTC and delivers 333Mh/s.

Are there any better?

Thanks,
ilpirata79

You really have no clue what you're talking about .... right ?


Title: Re: Best USB miner
Post by: markm on June 16, 2013, 12:08:24 PM
If they will never pay for themselves presumably all the currently being made and developed ASICs are expected to end up costing more electricity than they produce in bitcoins?

So only some new ASIC chips not yet made will be useful in a year or two, all these current ones eating just too much power per hash?

-MarkM-


Title: Re: Best USB miner
Post by: greyhawk on June 16, 2013, 12:12:09 PM
I liked the part where OPs username is essentially "pirate"


Title: Re: Best USB miner
Post by: Tigggger on June 16, 2013, 01:31:13 PM
If they will never pay for themselves presumably all the currently being made and developed ASICs are expected to end up costing more electricity than they produce in bitcoins?

So only some new ASIC chips not yet made will be useful in a year or two, all these current ones eating just too much power per hash?

It's not the hardware at fault, it's the ridiculous prices that are being charged that make them a bad deal.

It's a shame because it's a fantastic product and there was room for everyone to benefit, miners could have replaced power hungry gpu's with them, and ASICMiner could have made a greater profit by selling much larger quantities at a smaller margin.


Title: Re: Best USB miner
Post by: markm on June 16, 2013, 01:54:12 PM
There will be plenty of K1 USB mining sticks coming, hopefully cheaper than ASICminer's huge prices.

I just wonder how people figure they will *never* break even, since they might be able to earn more than the electricity to run them costs for many years.

-MarkM-


Title: Re: Best USB miner
Post by: ilpirata79 on June 16, 2013, 03:15:30 PM
Hi everyone,

can you suggest me the best USB ASIC miner?

I am considering the ASICMiner Block Erupter USB which costs approximately 2BTC and delivers 333Mh/s.

Are there any better?

Thanks,
ilpirata79

You really have no clue what you're talking about .... right ?

So you're calling them names of all the people who is buying NOW an USB AsicMiner ... right ?


Title: Re: Best USB miner
Post by: andrewsg on June 16, 2013, 03:19:03 PM

So you're calling them names of all the people who is buying NOW an USB AsicMiner ... right ?

Precisely.


Title: Re: Best USB miner
Post by: dwdoc on June 16, 2013, 03:24:12 PM
I bought ten, sold half on ebay to reduce my cost per stick and still will not recoup...


Title: Re: Best USB miner
Post by: Tigggger on June 16, 2013, 04:29:56 PM
I just wonder how people figure they will *never* break even, since they might be able to earn more than the electricity to run them costs for many years.

It's just maths, at currently difficulty and free electricity it's about 300 days ROI, once you factor in the rapid difficulty rise that is happening it's never going to happen.

Whilst it may be true they will make more than they use in electricity for some time to come, it's only going to be cent(s).


Title: Re: Best USB miner
Post by: ilpirata79 on June 16, 2013, 05:00:47 PM
I just wonder how people figure they will *never* break even, since they might be able to earn more than the electricity to run them costs for many years.

It's just maths, at currently difficulty and free electricity it's about 300 days ROI, once you factor in the rapid difficulty rise that is happening it's never going to happen.

Whilst it may be true they will make more than they use in electricity for some time to come, it's only going to be cent(s).

I think the important factor are the hashes per watt they can make. Do these miners consume more that Avalon asics or BF asics?

Did someone do any math about that?



Title: Re: Best USB miner
Post by: ilpirata79 on June 16, 2013, 05:03:52 PM
Another consideration: if the low-sized ASICs' owners are put out of business in the coming months, what about the GPUs' owners?
Will the bitcoin network be managed only by people with big ASIC equipments?


Title: Re: Best USB miner
Post by: Trongersoll on June 16, 2013, 05:14:18 PM
What the f**k is  a "USB Avalon Erupter"

Did you ever tried Google Search, before using bad language?

That's what "USB Avalon Erupter" is: http://mineasics.com/the-block-erupter-usb-series/

There is no "Avalon" Erupter. that is what everyone refers to as an ASICminer Block Erupter.


Title: Re: Best USB miner
Post by: stayhomedad1 on June 16, 2013, 05:22:33 PM
Another consideration: if the low-sized ASICs owners are put out of business in the coming months, what about the GPUs owners?
Will the bitcoin network be managed only by people with big ASIC equipments?


I think that the network will depend heavily on the small ASIC users. Because if you are running a "farm" you must turn over your BTC to pay for power. But if the price drops, and it will, farms will fail leaving only the populace to run the network at a small loss like any other household appliance. So the more small ASIC devices are out there the better the network will be.