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Title: Internet Speed
Post by: Hachijuusan on November 06, 2017, 11:38:08 AM
How much speed is needed for which miner?
Is there a list or a calculater to see if the capacity is enough?
Actual we have a combined place with friends (5 x L3+ / 1 x D3 / 1 x R4 / 2 x IBelink).
Just want to know, if this could be too much for our actual speed. No exact date. Need to check when I am there again.
Please let me know, how we can calculate the needed capacity to choose, if we need a second connection to avoid reduction of profitability.


Title: Re: Internet Speed
Post by: Immakillya on November 06, 2017, 12:23:58 PM
Internet speed doesn't affect your mining as far as know. Correct me if im wrong.
Your mining rig capabilty is which matters the most because this is where all process are done. Internet speed may not affect your mining. Base on my research, you can still mine even if your internet speed is 128 kbps to keep your mining going. Even on bandwidth,  mining doesnt really use huge bandwidth. But  your internet connection should be stable. You don't really need a very fast internet connection to mine. Fast internet connection will be worthless if it's not stable.


Title: Re: Internet Speed
Post by: Jake052478 on November 07, 2017, 06:54:31 AM
Internet speed doesn't affect your mining as far as know. Correct me if im wrong.
Your mining rig capabilty is which matters the most because this is where all process are done. Internet speed may not affect your mining. Base on my research, you can still mine even if your internet speed is 128 kbps to keep your mining going. Even on bandwidth,  mining doesnt really use huge bandwidth. But  your internet connection should be stable. You don't really need a very fast internet connection to mine. Fast internet connection will be worthless if it's not stable.


It is nice to know that internet speed is not a factor in mining.  So I guess even the cheapest subscription will do in so far as mining is concern.  Besides, I have not also find any article that internet speed can affect mining afterall.  So, this is just an eye opener here...


Title: Re: Internet Speed
Post by: Ayush rana on November 07, 2017, 07:04:18 AM
Yes speed matters for the mining because you have to be connected with internet 24*7. A simple speed can also work for mining there is no need of high speed internet, but if you are having a good hardware then it will be easy to you to do mining very effectively.


Title: Re: Internet Speed
Post by: hugeblack on November 07, 2017, 07:16:16 AM
How much speed is needed for which miner?
Is there a list or a calculater to see if the capacity is enough?
Actual we have a combined place with friends (5 x L3+ / 1 x D3 / 1 x R4 / 2 x IBelink).
Just want to know, if this could be too much for our actual speed. No exact date. Need to check when I am there again.
Please let me know, how we can calculate the needed capacity to choose, if we need a second connection to avoid reduction of profitability.

your Internet speed doesn't really affect on mining but also you need to have internet all mining time .

mining depend on your hardware tools more than internet speed so if you have high quality hardware and low internet speed (less than 1 MB and high than 100 KB) and other have fast internet with low quality hardware you will gain more than him .

just use filters to keep internet stable more than 100 KB range (unstable internet causes problems)


Title: Re: Internet Speed
Post by: dertre on November 07, 2017, 07:26:47 AM
I a friend of mine mined on mobile internet connection whit no problem (1 mbps). Only thing you have to look for is 24/7 to be online whit no interrupts. The speed doesn't matter.


Title: Re: Internet Speed
Post by: patofet on November 07, 2017, 07:45:10 AM
I a friend of mine mined on mobile internet connection whit no problem (1 mbps). Only thing you have to look for is 24/7 to be online whit no interrupts. The speed doesn't matter.

Wow, you doesn't need 24/7 you only need internet to submit a solution and to take a new job


Title: Re: Internet Speed
Post by: madwica on November 07, 2017, 09:16:18 AM
How much speed is needed for which miner?
Is there a list or a calculater to see if the capacity is enough?
Actual we have a combined place with friends (5 x L3+ / 1 x D3 / 1 x R4 / 2 x IBelink).
Just want to know, if this could be too much for our actual speed. No exact date. Need to check when I am there again.
Please let me know, how we can calculate the needed capacity to choose, if we need a second connection to avoid reduction of profitability.
You do not need to have high speed internet connection you should have stable internet connection to continue function your mining site. The amount to mine is depending of hardware you have of course if you want fast and best result just buy the most powerful mining rigs and i can say that mining is one of the most expensive method of earning in bitcoin but this is one of the best source of bitcoin. And also just consider the electricity rate in your country because that is one of the problem to cut down your profit.


Title: Re: Internet Speed
Post by: Lieldoryn on November 07, 2017, 09:38:52 AM
In the production of coins continued. The speed of the Internet connection does not matter. But very important is the price of electricity, the ability to connect to a reliable and powerful source of energy. The law of the country. Only mine by the looks attractive. This is actually a business that requires large investments and are difficult to predict. Think 100 times before investing money in this business.


Title: Re: Internet Speed
Post by: goldchain on November 07, 2017, 11:56:17 AM
Luckily, the internet speed is not being used as the "total calculation" in cryptocurrency mining. If not, then many of the miners from 3rd world countries won't be able to compete with 1st world countries.


Title: Re: Internet Speed
Post by: mpet5000 on November 07, 2017, 12:37:48 PM
How much speed is needed for which miner?
Is there a list or a calculater to see if the capacity is enough?
Actual we have a combined place with friends (5 x L3+ / 1 x D3 / 1 x R4 / 2 x IBelink).
Just want to know, if this could be too much for our actual speed. No exact date. Need to check when I am there again.
Please let me know, how we can calculate the needed capacity to choose, if we need a second connection to avoid reduction of profitability.


From what I know, mining doesnt really require much speed. It requires a high amount of hashpower from your GPU.


Title: Re: Internet Speed
Post by: gambit1 on November 07, 2017, 12:41:47 PM
Ok pro miners, what about hashrates? Why when you see your's speed on the zec pool and it's look like 1.8ksol from 1 rig, but when you see your speed in miner and it's 2.3 ksol? I think internet speed has the meaning and don't forget about ping from your's rig to pool.


Title: Re: Internet Speed
Post by: akram143 on November 07, 2017, 12:50:41 PM
My friend uses 4mbps internet connection for miners to mine bitcoins I think it is well enough for the miner, but we need the stable internet connection to receive our rewards continuously if our internet break in between the pools the miner has to reestablish the connection it is the waste of time and electricity.


Title: Re: Internet Speed
Post by: mostkey on November 07, 2017, 02:02:22 PM
Internet speed doesn't affect your mining as far as know. Correct me if im wrong.
Your mining rig capabilty is which matters the most because this is where all process are done. Internet speed may not affect your mining. Base on my research, you can still mine even if your internet speed is 128 kbps to keep your mining going. Even on bandwidth,  mining doesnt really use huge bandwidth. But  your internet connection should be stable. You don't really need a very fast internet connection to mine. Fast internet connection will be worthless if it's not stable.

it's right. although the speed of the internet decreases as long as it remains stable for example at 128kbps/ sec it still will not stop the existing mining, it must be known that the internet speed is not so significant, only. it would be better if we stay in a place that has a good internet kineksi, because this will facilitate / speed up in mining


Title: Re: Internet Speed
Post by: liseff3 on November 07, 2017, 02:08:26 PM
Internet speed doesn't affect your mining as far as know. Correct me if im wrong.
Your mining rig capabilty is which matters the most because this is where all process are done. Internet speed may not affect your mining. Base on my research, you can still mine even if your internet speed is 128 kbps to keep your mining going. Even on bandwidth,  mining doesnt really use huge bandwidth. But  your internet connection should be stable. You don't really need a very fast internet connection to mine. Fast internet connection will be worthless if it's not stable.

I agree with opinion.
Internet speed doesn`t affect your mining, you can still mine even if your internet speed is 128 kbps, with 128 kbps your mining can still well run, what is needed in mining is VGA.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=969823.msg10587766#msg10587766
the more VGA you plug, the faster (performance) your mining.


Title: Re: Internet Speed
Post by: philipma1957 on November 07, 2017, 02:22:57 PM
My friends office has 3 rigs  gpu pc's  it is a dsl 3-4mb speed  very reliable been working for years no issues.

we had

 antminer s-1's
 antminer s-3's
 antminer s-7's
 antminer r-4's

now 3 gpu rigs.

We made some decent money at it.


Title: Re: Internet Speed
Post by: aboy24 on November 07, 2017, 03:04:13 PM
How much speed is needed for which miner?
Is there a list or a calculater to see if the capacity is enough?
Actual we have a combined place with friends (5 x L3+ / 1 x D3 / 1 x R4 / 2 x IBelink).
Just want to know, if this could be too much for our actual speed. No exact date. Need to check when I am there again.
Please let me know, how we can calculate the needed capacity to choose, if we need a second connection to avoid reduction of profitability.

Every country have different internet speed connection, in my research defend on site who are you mining or defend the server, important is what gpu you use to mining. More miner high speed internet but the gpu is low cuda core,  need to study more in online before invest to mining bitcoins to prevent loose a money.


Title: Re: Internet Speed
Post by: atronax on November 07, 2017, 05:30:43 PM
After half a year of mining I conclude, that 5mbps of laggy connection is everything rigs need. Sometimes pages load a whole eternity, but miner works stable as should.


Title: Internet Speed
Post by: BitcoinIntern on November 07, 2017, 06:37:46 PM
How about Static IP...Do you guys recommend that? Thanks.


Title: Re: Internet Speed
Post by: LEINADbtc on November 07, 2017, 06:44:20 PM
U don't need a specific internet speed for mining..
Like c'mon..


Title: Re: Internet Speed
Post by: QuintLeo on November 07, 2017, 10:03:00 PM
Ok pro miners, what about hashrates? Why when you see your's speed on the zec pool and it's look like 1.8ksol from 1 rig, but when you see your speed in miner and it's 2.3 ksol? I think internet speed has the meaning and don't forget about ping from your's rig to pool.

 Pool hashrate is calculated from shares found, which VARY.
 This is not an "internet speed" issue, though it might be an "internet LATENCY" issue if you have something like a Sat connection.

 Mining does NOT use a lot of data bandwidth - my junk Virgin Mobile 3G cell connection had more than enough bandwidth to handle several miners, even though it rarely saw much more than 200kbps on a GOOD night.

 Static IP doesn't matter unless you're running a pool you want folks to be able to use from outside your LAN.


Title: Re: Internet Speed
Post by: gambit1 on November 07, 2017, 11:02:58 PM
Quote

 Pool hashrate is calculated from shares found, which VARY.
 This is not an "internet speed" issue, though it might be an "internet LATENCY" issue if you have something like a Sat connection.

 Mining does NOT use a lot of data bandwidth - my junk Virgin Mobile 3G cell connection had more than enough bandwidth to handle several miners, even though it rarely saw much more than 200kbps on a GOOD night.

 Static IP doesn't matter unless you're running a pool you want folks to be able to use from outside your LAN.

I understand you, but why I have this big speed difference between flypool and my miners? I have 4g "mobile" internet now. What is the correct speed? On the pool or in the miner?


Title: Re: Internet Speed
Post by: Anonym1337x on November 07, 2017, 11:06:14 PM
You don't need good internet connection , since its about your hardware.
I have like 2Mbit/sec (VERY BAD) internet speed but i can mine like my friend with 1Gbit/sec lol


Title: Re: Internet Speed
Post by: BitcoinIntern on November 08, 2017, 02:14:54 PM
Ok pro miners, what about hashrates? Why when you see your's speed on the zec pool and it's look like 1.8ksol from 1 rig, but when you see your speed in miner and it's 2.3 ksol? I think internet speed has the meaning and don't forget about ping from your's rig to pool.

 Pool hashrate is calculated from shares found, which VARY.
 This is not an "internet speed" issue, though it might be an "internet LATENCY" issue if you have something like a Sat connection.

 Mining does NOT use a lot of data bandwidth - my junk Virgin Mobile 3G cell connection had more than enough bandwidth to handle several miners, even though it rarely saw much more than 200kbps on a GOOD night.

 Static IP doesn't matter unless you're running a pool you want folks to be able to use from outside your LAN.


But what happens in a scenario where you install like 1000 miners on that 10 mbps network? Usually the download speed is way more than upload. Do you know which one matters when you have miners in 1000's? Thanks.


Title: Re: Internet Speed
Post by: QuintLeo on November 08, 2017, 08:06:30 PM
1000s of miners, you're probably going to need something higher end than dial-up equivilent - but I've never been anywhere near that level.

 I SUSPECT 10 Megabit would be enough - but would not be shocked if you need closer to 100.
 I believe you would likely need more upload speed, but that it would depend on how many shares you send back TO the pool vs how many new blocks it sends to each miner.


Title: Re: Internet Speed
Post by: Pa1n on November 09, 2017, 03:37:14 PM
Important issue is not internet speed. There is only big issue is that continuous strong internet during mining.


Title: Re: Internet Speed
Post by: Matthewmorris4 on November 09, 2017, 03:42:40 PM
I a friend of mine mined on mobile internet connection whit no problem (1 mbps). Only thing you have to look for is 24/7 to be online whit no interrupts. The speed doesn't matter.

So we just need a stable connection, right ?
then what happens if when we sleep, there is an interruption on our connection or for example the unexpected is the power outages

whether it will greatly affect our hardware mining ?


Title: Re: Internet Speed
Post by: BitcoinIntern on November 09, 2017, 06:28:52 PM
I a friend of mine mined on mobile internet connection whit no problem (1 mbps). Only thing you have to look for is 24/7 to be online whit no interrupts. The speed doesn't matter.

So we just need a stable connection, right ?
then what happens if when we sleep, there is an interruption on our connection or for example the unexpected is the power outages

whether it will greatly affect our hardware mining ?

That is why you need 2 internet connections. One for back up and the other as primary.


Title: Re: Internet Speed
Post by: QuintLeo on November 09, 2017, 08:50:52 PM
If you're running a big operation, a second connection as a backup makes sense.
Most ISPs are stable enough for small operations.

 Only time I lose Net at this point is if my POWER goes down, as the panel I connect into for my Net access runs from building power - so a backup connection doesn't help me much if at all.

 If your net or power goes down when you're asleep, it's not going to be a big deal if you set up your miners to start back up when power comes up.
 Usually that's a setting in the motherboard BIOS for a GPU rig, and it seems to be the default for most or all ASIC stand-alone miners.





Title: Re: Internet Speed
Post by: jdole on November 11, 2017, 06:45:15 AM
Internet speed doesn't affect your mining as far as know. Correct me if im wrong.
Your mining rig capabilty is which matters the most because this is where all process are done. Internet speed may not affect your mining. Base on my research, you can still mine even if your internet speed is 128 kbps to keep your mining going. Even on bandwidth,  mining doesnt really use huge bandwidth. But  your internet connection should be stable. You don't really need a very fast internet connection to mine. Fast internet connection will be worthless if it's not stable.

I did not know that internet speed is not a factor in mining.  I have a image mining is speed is most important so connection speed need it.thanks good infomation and I will study mining.